A SOMBER ANNIVERSARY AND A GARNER FAMILY MESSAGE OF SOLIDARITY

Encore: July 17, 2020

Today marks six years since Eric Garner was killed in police custody on Staten Island. Garner was arrested for allegedly selling loose cigarettes on July 17, 2014. Four NYPD officers were seen on video restraining him as he repeatedly cried, “I can’t breathe.” Officer Daniel Pantaleo was fired last year for putting Garner in a chokehold. On Wednesday, Mayor Bill de Blasio signed a package of police reform bills, which outlawed chokeholds. Tonight, in a special rebroadcast of a powerful interview, the late Eric Garner’s youngest daughter Emerald, takes us through her fight to outlaw chokeholds and police brutality that she now calls her life’s mission.

Aired on June 2, 2020 and July 17, 2020. 

TRANSCRIPT

> UP NEXT, 'METROFOCUS.'

WE'RE WORKING FROM HOME BUT WE'RE DEDICATED TO BRINGING YOU THE IMPORTANT STORIES ABOUT HOW OUR AREA IS AFFECTED BY CORONAVIRUS.

THIS IS 'METROFOCUS,' WITH RAFAEL P. ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

'METROFOCUS' IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH, SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III, THE SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM, BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ, ROSALIND P. WALTER, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, AND BY --

> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO 'METROFOCUS', I'M JENNA FLANAGAN.

I CAN'T BREATHE.

THOSE WERE THE FINAL WORDS SPOKEN BY GEORGE FLOYD, AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WHO WAS CHOKED TO DEATH DURING AN ARREST BY FOUR MINNEAPOLIS POLICE OFFICERS.

HIS WORDS SPURRED OUTRAGE AND PROTESTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE BARBARIC MANNER OF FLOYD'S DEATH, BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD THOSE WORDS BEFORE.

IT WAS SIX YEARS AGO ON JULY 17th, 2014, THAT ERIC GARNER UTTERED THOSE EXACT SAME WORDS WHEN A NEW YORK CITY POLICE OFFICER PUT HIM IN AN ILLEGAL CHOKE HOLD DURING AN ATTEMPTED ARREST.

BOTH INCIDENTS WERE CALL ON CELLPHONE VIDEO AND BROADCAST FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.

THERE WERE JUST TWO CASES IN A DISTURBING TREND OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS DIEING AT THE HANDS OF POLICE.

IT'S A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE FOR THE NATION, BUT MORE SO FOR THE SURVIVING FAMILY MEMBERS OF THOSE LOST TO POLICE VIOLENCE.

AFTER ALL, HOW DO YOU MOVE ON WHEN YOUR LOVED ONE, THE VIOLENCE THAT TOOK THEIR LIFE IS ENACTED ON OTHERS.

SO TO GIVE US A VERY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE ON GEORGE FLOYD'S DEATH IN HIS AFTERMATH I'M JOINED NOW BY THE DAUGHTER OF THE LATE ERIC GARNER.

EMERALD, WELCOME BACK TO 'METROFOCUS.'

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK.

IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE YOU.

OH, THANK YOU AND YOU AS WELL.

SO FIRST, I JUST WANT TO START OFF WITH THE STORY OF THE MOMENT, AND THAT IS OF THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD.

FIRST, HOW DID YOU FIND OUT WHAT'S S WAS YOUR REACTION.

WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT IT WAS A POST ON INSTAGRAM AND I SEEN IT ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PAGES I GOT A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND TEXT, DID YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED, I SAW THE VIDEO PLAYING BUT OF COURSE I'M NOT GOING TO WATCH IT, SO YOU HAVE TO TELL ME SO I ASK KNOW.

THEY SAID THERE'S A GUY THAT DIED THAT SAID I CAN'T BREATHE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE SAT ON HIS NECK, WELL, FIRST THE REPORT I GOT WAS SOMEONE SAT ON HIS NECK.

I WAS LIKE DIDN'T WE JUST SEE THAT IN BROOKLYN BUT THANKFULLY THAT BOY SURVIVED.

THEN THEY SAID HE WAS KNEELING ON HIS NECK FOR NINE OR TEN MINUTES AND HE SAID I CAN'T BREATHE.

THAT'S WHEN I READ THE ARTICLE AND HEARD THE STORIES AND I STARTED GETTING, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE SAYING DID YOU HEAR THIS, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

AND SO, THIS HAS TO RIP OPEN SO MANY OLD WOUNDS FOR YOU.

DID THIS TAKE YOU BACK TO THAT MOMENT WHEN YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT YOUR OWN FATHER'S DEATH?

THIS TOOK ME ABSOLUTELY BACK TO JULY 17, 2014.

WHEN MY MOM CALLED ME AND TOLD ME SOMETHING HAPPENED TO YOUR FATHER, THEY SAID HE COULDN'T BREATHE AND HE WENT TO THE HOSPITAL.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY DID BRING ME BACK TO THAT DAY.

EVEN WITH THE PROTESTS, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE PEACEFUL AROUND, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY PROTESTED FOR MY FATHER, SOME PROTESTS GOT VERY VIOLENT.

NOT A LOT OF VIOLENCE LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

BUT LIKE WHAT'S IT'S MAJOR POINT PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT PEOPLE ARE ANGRY.

NOT ONLY WE DIDN'T GET JUSTICE IN ERIC GARNER SITUATION, BUT ANOTHER OFFICER WHO I'M SURE SEEN THE VIDEO DID THE EXACT SAME THING TO GEORGE FLOYD.

AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE OUTRAGED.

OF COURSE, AND SPEAKING OF SEEING THE VIDEO, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN VERY PAINFUL FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SEE.

ALTHOUGH ON ONE HANDSOME PEOPLE HAVE MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS.

PEOPLE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

ON THE OTHER HAND IT'S TRAUMATIC FOR SOME PEOPLE TO SEE AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAD EVEN SEEN THE VIDEO AND WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON DIFFERENT NEWS ORGANIZATIONS BROADCASTING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

WELL, I ALWAYS SAY, LIKE, EVEN WHEN I DID YOUR SHOW BACK LAST YEAR WHEN I ASKED, HEY, ARE YOU GOING TO PLAY THE VIDEO, IF YOU ARE, CAN I BE OUTSIDE THE STUDIO WHEN YOU PLAY THE VIDEO OR IF YOU PLAY THE AUDIO LET ME KNOW, GIVE ME A HEAD'S UP.

I DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO UNTIL 2019.

HE DIED IN 2014.

I DIDN'T WATCH GEORGE FLOYD'S VIDEO.

I GIVE THE FAMILY ANY TYPE OF ADVICE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY, NOT TO WATCH THE VIDEO, BECAUSE IT TAKES A PIECE OF YOUR HEART, YOUR MENTALITY, A PIECE OF YOU, AS A WHOLE.

AND FOR NEWS STATIONS TO CONSTANTLY BRO CAST THAT, IT'S A CONSTANT REMINDER OF WHAT HAPPENED AND A CONSTANT REMINDER THAT THERE'S NO EMPATHY AND NO SYMPATHY.

AND FOR ME, SCROLLING THROUGH INSTAGRAM AND SCROLLING THROUGH FACEBOOK AND SEEING THE VIDEO IS VERY HARD.

FOR MYSELF, PERSONALLY, I ACCIDENTALLY POSTED MY FATHER'S VIDEO, I WAS TRYING TO POST A VIDEO OF THE TRAILER FOR MY MOM'S MOVIE AND A CLIP OF THE VIDEO IS INSIDE THE VIDEO.

BUT WHAT INSTAGRAM PUT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THE TRAILER BUT IT WAS THE VIDEO AND THE VIDEO WAS POSTED.

SO AS I'M DOING ALL OF THAT, IS IT COMES UP IN MY NEWS FEED.

I'M LIKE, WAIT, HOLD ON.

TAKE A MINUTE.

THAT MEANS I'M DOING TOO MUCH, MOVING TOO FAST, I NEED TO SLOW DOWN.

THAT'S WHERE IT CAME, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME TAKE A MINUTE.

HOLD ON.

I'M DOING TOO MUCH.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN 2014.

I WAS DOING TOO MUCH, I GOT BURNED OUT.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SISTER.

MY SISTER WAS DOING A LOT, SHE WAS ON THE FRONT LINES EVERY DAY, OUTSIDE, YELLING AND SCREAMING AN SHE DIED OF A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK.

SO I HAVE TO STEP BACK AND SAY, HEY, DON'T DO TOO MUCH.

THAT'S THE ADVICE I GIVE TO THE FAMILY.

DON'T DO TOO MUCH.

WE HEAR YOU.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT YOU.

AND DON'T TAKE THIS AS I NEED TO GET OUT THERE TO GET THE STORY OUT BECAUSE THE STORY WILL BE OUT THERE REGARDLESS WHETHER YOU SPEAK OR NOT.

IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR MENTALITY.

IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL.

IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THING I'D SAY TO THE FAMILY OF GEORGE FLOYD, WHICH IS, TAKE TIME FOR YOURSELF.

SELF-CARE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

OF COURSE, OF COURSE.

AGAIN, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO BRING UP AS YOU MENTIONED YOUR SISTER.

I ALSO WAS WONDERING, WE HEARD AFTER SCHOOL SHOOTING THAT THIS BECOMES, AS I HEARD SOME OF THE FAMILIES SAY, THE CLUB THAT NOBODY WANTS TO BE A MEMBER OF.

BUT IT BECOMES THIS COMMUNITY WHERE THERE'S OTHERS WHO UNFORTUNATELY KNOW YOUR STORY.

I WONDER IF THERE'S A SAME SENSE OF COMMUNITY OF THE FAMILIES OF PEOPLE LOST TO POLICE VIOLENCE?

WELL, I DON'T REALLY SEE A LOT OF IT.

IF WE DO SEE, YOU KNOW, I CALL US SURVIVORS.

OKAY.

BECAUSE MY SISTER DID NOT SURVIVE.

WE ARE ULTIMATELY LIVING WITH THAT BURDEN OF HAVING TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE.

I CALL IT A BURDEN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ASK TO BE HERE WHILE YOUR LOVED ONE WAS KILLED.

WE WERE MINDING OUR BUSINESS ONE DAY AND A COP KILLED OUR LOVED ONE SO I STAY CONNECTED WITH OTHER VICTIMS BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IT IS TO FEEL ALONE.

AND WHEN PEOPLE SAY OH, I FEEL YOUR PAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE THEM.

BUT IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN THROUGH WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND THEY SAY I FEEL YOUR PAIN, I BELIEVE THEM.

FOR EXAMPLE, I DID A CALL WITH RODNEY KING'S DAUGHTER.

I DID SANDRA INK AND THERE WAS THREE OF US ON THERE.

LAURA KING MADE A REALLY GREAT POINT THAT AFTER THE COPS BEAT UP HER FATHER AND DAMAGED THE TOP OF HIS HEAD TO THE BOTTOM OF HIS FEET FROM BEATING HIM SO BAD A PIECE OF HIM WAS LEFT ON THAT CONCRETE THAT DAY.

HE NEVER CAME BACK THE SAME.

I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF MY FATHER HAD LIVED AFTER NOT HAVING OXYGEN SO LONG.

WHAT IF MY SISTER CAME OUT OF HER COMA, SHE WOULD NOT BE THE SAME PERSON, ALTHOUGH SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE BUT A PIECE OF HER WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL STICK TOGETHER AND GET OUR VOICES HEARD.

WELL, ONE LAST THING BEFORE I TURN TO, I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT OF COURSE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE AFTERMATH, BUT WHAT IS IT THAT HAPPENS ONCE THE CAMERAS GO AWAY, THE STORY STOPS BEING A TOP STORY.

WHAT'S THAT LIKE?

I'M GUESSING IT IS AS THOUGH THE FAMILY FEELS LIKE THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN FIGHTING THIS FIGHT.

WHAT'S THAT LIKE AND WHAT WOULD YOU ADVISE TO THE FLOYD FAMILY?

IT'S HARD.

IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN THE CAMERAS GO AWAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING IS HOT, EVERYTHING IS IN THE MEDIA AND YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE RUNNING AND SAYING I'M THERE FOR YOU, I'M WITH YOU, YOU HAVE CELEBRITIES SAYING I'M THERE FOR YOU, I'M WITH YOU.

BUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN.

AND FOR ME IT MEANS ANSWER MY PHONE CALL WHEN I CALL YOU.

DON'T TELL ME YOU'RE TOO BUSY.

ACTIVISTS COME AND SAY WE STAND WITH YOU AND THEY GO TALK ABOUT YOU AND WE'RE LEFT BEHIND.

MEDIA STATIONS RUN TO TALK TO THE ACTIVISTS.

THEY'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE DEALT WITH.

WE'RE ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THIS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY IS NOT A SPEAKER AND EVERYBODY'S LIKE OH, YOU SPEAK SO WELL, WHAT IF I DIDN'T SPEAK WELL, WHAT IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE THE VERNE ACCESSA LAR I HAD -- VERNACULAR I HAD.

WHAT IF I WASN'T EDUCATED.

P WHAT I WAWRINKA -- WHAT IF I WASN'T.

DOES THAT MEAN MY VOICE DOESN'T NEED TO BE HEARD BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT EXTENSIVE VOCABULARY.

NO.

THAT'S NOT WHAT IT MEANS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOU CARE ABOUT THE FEELING, YOU CARE ABOUT THE IMPACT, YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT PERSON.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MEDIA STATIONS TO KNOW, YOU DON'T ONLY HAVE TO TALK TO THE ACTIVISTS BECAUSE NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES THE ACTIVIST SPEAKING FOR THE VICTIM YOU DON'T KNOW HIM ORE YOU DON'T KNOW US, YOU DON'T TAKE TIME TO GET TO KNOW US.

HOW COULD YOU SPEAK FOR SOMEONE YOU DON'T KNOW.

IN ORDER TO KNOW THE PERSON YOU HAVE TO GET TO KNOW WHAT HE'S DONE.

I ALWAYS SAY YOUR CHILD IS A REFLECTION OF YOU.

IF YOU NEED TO KNOW MY FATHER, YOU NEED TO TALK TO ME, BECAUSE HE TAUGHT ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT LOVE AND ABOUT LIFE AND FAMILY AND ABOUT BEING THERE FOR YOUR CHILDREN.

IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHAT HAPPENED WITH GEORGE FLOYD TALK TO THE FAMILY, NOT JUST ONE FAMILY MEMBER.

MEET THEM.

THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF FAMILY.

MAYBE THEY HAVE A STORY THEY WANT TO SHARE.

MAYBE THEY HAVE A FUNNY MEMORY THEY WANT TO SHARE.

I FEEL LIKE THE FOCUS, THE FOCUS GETS, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTED, WHERE IT ONLY FOCUSES ON ACTIVISTS AND I HONESTLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I'M SAYING EVERYTHING I DO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE AN ACTIVIST, SO TEACH US, YOU SAID YOU HAVE BEEN FIGHTING 20 YEARS, TEACH ME HOW TO FIGHT FOR 20 YEARS, TEACH ME WHAT I NEED TO KNOW TO BE STRONG IN THIS FIGHT.

VERY, I THINK, VERY, VERY WELL PUT.

I'M SPEAKING WITH EMERALD SNIPES-GARNER THE DAUGHTER OF THE LATE ERIC GARN EARNHARDT WE'RE THE LATE ERIC GARNER.

WE'RE GETTING A PERSONAL LOOK AT A LOVED ONE AFTER LOST DUE TO FATAL INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE.

I WANT TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE WORDS I CAN'T BREATHE, IT BECAME A RALLYING CRY, WE SAW PEOPLE MARCHING ACROSS NEW YORK AND OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND NOW SEEING THE SAME WORDS IN THE AFTERMATH OF GEORGE FLOYD'S DEATH.

WE HEARD SO MUCH CRITICISM ABOUT THE PROTESTS AND THE WAY PEOPLE SHOULD PROTEST, THE WAY THEY SHOULDN'T PROTEST.

FROM A FAMILY MEMBER'S PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SEEING AND WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE?

I THINK THAT THEY'RE FOCUSSING TOO MUCH ON THE NEGATIVE.

I THINK THEY SHOULD FOCUS ON THE MESSAGE.

THE MESSAGE IS STOP KILLING US.

AND I DON'T DOUBT THAT IF THERE WAS A ERIC GARNER LAW AND POLICE WERE ACCOUNTABLE, THEY WERE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR POLICE MISCONDUCT, ACCESSIBLE FORCE, CHOKE HOLD, SHOOTING SOMEONE IN THE BACK, BEING SUPER AGGRESSIVE TO SOMEONE UNER -- UNARMED AND WHO IS NOT A THREAT, IF THAT WAS IN PLACE THOSE OFFICER WOULDN'T BE THERE.

THAT OFFICER WAS CHARGED WITH CAPITAL MURDER OR MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE I GUARANTEE PEOPLE WOULD BE IN THEIR HOMES.

THEY WOULDN'T BE IN THE STREETS.

I DON'T CONDONE VIOLENCE AND VANDALISM, BUT PEOPLE ARE ANGRY.

I DON'T WANT THE MESSAGE TO GET CONFUSED.

THEY'RE ANGRY BECAUSE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS BEHAVIOR WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO THEM.

WE HAVE A REASON TO STAND IN THE STREET.

THERE'S NO REASON FOR VIOLENCE OR VANDALISM BUT THE PROTESTS ARE HAPPENING BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS DONE TO US.

THEY'RE OUT THERE KILLING US AND WE'RE NOT GETTING LAWS CHANGED, POLICE ARE NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE, THEY WANT TO PROSECUTE THE PROTESTERS BUT NOT THE POLICE.

THE MESSAGE IS ALL MIXED UP.

SO WHAT I SAY TO THEM IS NO, DON'T VANDALIZE THAT STORE, THAT ISN'T YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S GO -- THAT IS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO IT WILL BE HARDER TO GET THE RESOURCES YOU NEED IF YOU'RE DESTROYING THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.

SO THAT I DON'T CONDONE.

BUT THE PROTESTERS ARE THERE BECAUSE GEORGE FLOYD IS NOT HERE.

SANDRA IS NOT HERE.

ERIC GARNER IS NOT HERE.

MICHAEL BROWN IS NOT HERE.

NONE OF THE VICTIMS ARE HERE.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE OUTSIDE IN THE STREETS, THAT'S WHY THEY'VE TAKEN TO THE STREETS, I DON'T THINK IT WILL STOP UNTIL POLICE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH THIS MOMENT IS DIFFERENT OR IS THIS JUST ANOTHER INCIDENT.

AGAIN ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WE'RE HEARING, CONCERNS FROM PEOPLE PROTESTING IN THE STREETS THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE AND NOTHING CHANGES.

DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH THIS MOMENT IS AT ALL DIFFERENT OR WHAT?

I THINK THAT POLICE BRUTALITY IS POLICE BRUTALITY AND IT'S ALL THE SAME.

I THINK THAT ALL OF THE VICTIMS OF POLICE BRUTALITY IN EVERY WHICH WAY THAT THEY WERE MURDERED IS A TRAGEDY FOR EVERYONE.

I FEEL THAT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN THE HYPE, IN THE MEDIA MAIN STREAM STUFF.

JUST UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGE.

YES, YOU'RE OUT THERE PROTESTING AND YOU ARE PROTESTING AND STANDING IN SOLIDARITY] BUT ALSO GO VOTE.

ALSO, GO FILL OUT YOUR CENSUS.

GO VOTE.

ALSO, GO FILL OUT YOUR CENSUS.

ALSO SUPPORT THE LAWS.

JOIN AN ORGANIZATION.

REACH OUT TO A FAMILY.

ASK WHAT THEY THINK.

DON'T JUST GO ON YOUR HEAD AND SAY I'M HERE BECAUSE I KNOW ERIC GARNER WOULD BE OUT THERE.

NO HE WOULD NOT.

HE WOULD NOT BE OUTSIDE DURING THE CORONAVIRUS PROTESTING BUT I'M SURE HE WOULD DO EVERYTHING TO MAKE A CHANGE.

THAT MEANS FILLING OUT YOUR CONS CONSENSUS, JOIN THE ASSOCIATION IN YOUR BUILDING TO MAKE A CHANGE.

THERE'S MORE THINGS YOU CAN DO OPPOSED TO BEING OUTSIDE.

DO I WANT THE PROTESTERS OUTSIDE?

NO.

I WANT EVERYONE TO GO HOME UNTIL THIS CORONAVIRUS IS OVER.

THEY FEEL THAT IS HOW THEY WANT TO FIGHT FOR JUSTICE, WEAR YOUR MASKS AND BE PEACEFUL AND GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT THERE.

THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE BECAUSE OF COURSE CORONAVIRUS IS VERY MUCH STILL WITH US AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR REASONS WE'RE STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS STILL HAVING A DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON PEOPLE OF COLOR, PARTICULARLY BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE.

YES.

SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT TO MAKE.

I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET INTO ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT YOU MADE, THAT IS, SUPPORT THE LAWS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE STARTING TO HEAR AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THIS CRISIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS THAT ALLOW FOR PROSECUTIONS, CERTAIN WAY FOR PROSECUTIONS TO NOT WORK ANOTHER WAY, WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE HAVE TO CHANGE IN TERMS OF POLICY AND LAW?

I UNDERSTAND YOU'VE SPOKEN TO US BEFORE ABOUT THIS, BUT ONE MORE TIME, TELL US ABOUT THE ERIC GARNER LAW, WHAT IT IS, AN WHAT DID YOU WANT IT TO DO.

SO THE ERIC GARNER LAW WILL BASICALLY MAKE CHOKE HOLDS ILLEGAL.

APPOINT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO INVESTIGATE POLICE BRUTALITY CASES.

ALSO TO FEDERALLY INDICT OFFICERS.

IF OFFICERS HAD IT IN THE BACK OF THEIR MIND, OH, WAIT I'M ON THIS MAN'S HEAD AND HE'S SAYING I CAN'T BREATHE AND HE NEEDS MEDICAL HELP, LET ME GET HIM HELP BECAUSE ERIC GARNER LAW WILL STEP IN AND PROSECUTE ME AND I WILL GO TO JAIL.

IS IT WILL HOLD COPS ACCOUNTABLE.

I'M ALSO GOING TO FIGHT ALONG WITH THE ERIC GARNER LAW FOR POLICE AND CULTURAL SENSITIVITY TRAINING BECAUSE AS A SOCIAL WORKER I HAVE TO TAKE CULTURAL DEESCALATION VICTIM TRAINING FOR CHILD CARE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM.

SO WITH THAT THEY NEED TO BE RETRAINED ON THEIR TACTICS, THEIR METHOD, ON THEIR SO-CALLED TAKE DOWNS.

SO WITH THE ERIC GARNER LAW THAT WILL BE WORKING FOR LEGISLATION THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY.

AND I DON'T DOUBT FOR A MINUTE THAT IF THE ERIC GARNER LAW WAS PASSED ALREADY THERE WOULD NOT BE A GEORGE FLOYD.

WOW.

OKAY.

SO PEOPLE KNOW, WHAT IS A GOOD WAY TO SUPPORT THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE HEARING THIS SAYING I DIDN'T KNOW THE POSSIBILITY OF A ERIC GARNER LAW.

HOW DO YOU SUPPORT THAT.

RIGHT NOW, ACTUALLY TONIGHT AT 7:00 P.M. ON FACEBOOK LIVE I'M GOING TO BE TALKING TO U.S.

STATE REPS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO.

RIGHT NOW THERE'S A PETITION ONLINE WITH 50,000 SIGNATURES.

I PLAN TO GET 1 MILLION SIGNATURES.

ONE SIGNATURE IS ALL WE NEED FROM YOU AND WE WILL GET ANOTHER SIGNATURE AND WE JUST WANT TO GET AS MANY SIGNATURES AS POSSIBLE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO GREAT PEOPLE THAT JUST CALLED ME TODAY TO SUPPORT THE BILL, CAMILLA HARRIS CHRISTIAN GILLIBRAND IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE LAW AND INTRODUCE IT TO SENATE THIS WEEK.

SO IT'S EXCITING TO ME.

ALSO I FEEL LIKE THE WORK HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT HAS TO PASS.

I WILL BE EXTRA HAPPY WHEN IT PASSES.

TONIGHT WE'LL HAVE A LIVE CONVERSATION WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS HOW PEOPLE CAN JOIN THE FIGHT FOR GETTING THESE LAWS PASSED.

NOT ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE ERIC GARNER LAW.

THE ANDREW CARES ACT, HE ASKED FOR MEDICAL ATTENTION IN THE BACK OF A POLICE CAR AND DIDN'T GET AND HE DIED ON THE WAY TO THE POLICE STATION.

THEY DIDN'T GET HIM MEDICAL ATTENTION.

AND YOU HAVE SKPLARK FIGHTING FOR THE LAW WHERE YOU CAN'T SHOOT SOMEBODY IF THEY'RE RUNNING AWAY FROM YOU.

THESE ARE THE TYPE OF CHANGES WE NEED.

ALTHOUGH MY FATHER WASN'T SHOT HE WAS STILL KILLED BY THE POLICE.

SO ALL THIS STUFF IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, HAVE CONVERSATIONS LIKE THIS WITH YOU AND I, AND PEOPLE WANT TO SUPPORT CAN GO TO THIS BOX TODAY AT GMAIL.COM AND I CAN SEND THEM SOME IDEAS AND PICTURES.

THEY CAN GO TO MY SOCIAL MEDIA.

RIGHT NOW SERVING VIRTUAL.

BUT YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF ZOOM THAT'S HAPPENING.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO OUTSIDE.

BECAUSE I'M DEATHLY AFRAID OF CORONAVIRUS BECAUSE I HAVE ASTHMA.

I HAVE A 94-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO LIVES WITH ME.

MY GRANDMOTHER DOESN'T HAVE NO PAIN OR NO MEDICAL ISSUES SO IF SHE GETS SICK I KNOW IT'S ME.

SO I WANT PEOPLE TO JUST JOIN THE CONVERSATION, JOIN THE ORGANIZATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WHICH ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THERE'S MANY ORGANIZATIONS.

JOIN THE CONVERSATION.

SIGN THE PETITION.

YOU KNOW.

LIKE, SHARE.

REPOST ON INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE SEEN.

THE MORE WE FLOOD SOCIAL MEDIA AND NEWS OUTLETS WITH THE POSITIVE BETTER IT IS.

OF COURSE.

AND I DO WANT TO ASK, BECAUSE THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS, YOU ARE ALSO SEEING INSTANCES WHERE POLICE ARE TRYING TO EXPRESS THEIR SOLIDARITY THAT THEY ARE ALSO DISGUSTED WITH WHAT THEY SAW WITH WHAT HAPPENED TO GEORGE FLOYD, THAT THEY ALSO WANT TO SEE CHANGE.

SO HAVE YOU HEARD RESPONSE FROM NYPD AND OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM AND DO YOU HAVE ANY POSITIVE FEELINGS OF THESE SIGNS OF SOLIDARITY WE'RE SEEING AS A RESULT OF THIS PARTICULAR INSURANCE DENT.

I THINK IT DOESN'T MATTER --IN INCIDENT.

I THINK IT DOESN'T MATTER YOUR RANKING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, SO I APPRECIATE THOSE PUTTING DOWN THEIR BATON AND MARCHING WITH THE PROTESTERS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.

WE WANT TO SEE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT THE POLICE ARE NOT HERE JUST TO KILL US.

AND THAT SHOWS US THAT YOU'RE WITH US AND NOT WITH THEM.

PROTESTERS NEED TO SEE THAT.

THEY DON'T NEED TO SEE YOU STANFORDING RIGHT HERE -- STANDING RIGHT HERE AND LET'S DO A DEMONSTRATION.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.

THEY PUT DOWN THEIR BATONS AND MARCHED WITH THE PROTESTERS.

THAT'S THE TYPE OF UNITY WE NEED.

OF COURSE.

DEFINITELY SEEING IT DEESCALATE SITUATIONS WHICH HAS BEEN A CRITICISM WE HAVE HEARD AS WELL.

I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE I STILL GOT YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THE FACT THAT, YET AGAIN AMERICA IS IN THIS PLACE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF HOW THS COULD HAPPEN.

HOW COULD A PERSON WHO IS BEING TAKEN INTO CUSTODY END UP DEAD.

WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE FOR YOU TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR FATHER IS PLAYING OUT YET AGAIN.

AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IF THE ERIC GARNER LAW WAS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW WE WOULD NOT BE SEEING THIS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE HERE, YET AGAIN.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S -- LIKE I'VE BEEN SAYING, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

WE NEED CHANGE AND WE NEED CHANGE NOW.

OF COURSE.

WELL ONE MORE TIME FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN REACHING OUT AND ENGAGING PARTICULARLY NOT JUST WITH THE ERIC GARNER LAW BUT ALSO THE OTHER TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, JUST ONE MORE TIME, LET US KNOW WHAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR PEOPLE TO REACH OUT PERHAPS TO YOU OR TO YOUR ORGANIZATION TO MAKE CONTACT AND CONTRIBUTE IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

YEAH YOU CAN E-MAIL AT THIS BOX TODAY 2014 AT GMAIL.COM.

EMERALD SNIPES ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.

GIVE ME SOME TIME.

TWEET ME.

INSTAGRAM ME.

FACEBOOK MESSENGER ME.

JUST REACH OUT.

I WILL POST UP A PHONE NUMBER PEOPLE CAN CALL AND THEY CAN GIVE THEIR OPINIONS AND JOIN THE FIGHT.

I WILL BE VERY ACTIVE ON SOCIAL DISTANCING AND VERY ACTIVE ONLINE AND I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THIS IS WHAT IT'S COME TO.

VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS ARE JOINING FORCES AND CREATING OUR OWN NARRATIVE OF WHAT WE WANT OUR JUSTICE FOR OUR FAMILY TO LOOK LIKE.

OF COURSE AND THAT'S -- THAT'S ALSO, I THINK, VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE AS AMERICA ATTEMPTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REBUILD ITSELF IN A BETTER IMAGE OF WHO WE WANT TO BE.

SO EMERALD SNIPES GARNER I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO JOIN US OUT YOUR INCREDIBLY BUSY DAY.

I'M SORRY IT CONTINUES TO BE UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT PERHAPS WE'LL SEE YOU SOME DAY AT A BILL-SIGNING CEREMONY, WHO KNOWS.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

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I'M ACCEPTING NOTHING LESS.

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THANK YOU, YES WE WILL.

ABSOLUTELY.

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