METROFOCUS: MARCH 9, 2020

We’ll give you the latest on the panic, the confusion, and the city and statewide response to this outbreak. Medical expert and veteran journalist, Dr. Bob Arnot gives us the facts you need to know. In the male-dominated restaurant world, women have been forced into a culinary battle for recognition and respect. Now, some of the world’s most renowned female chefs show us how they’re defying the odds.

Aired on March 9, 2020. 

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON METRO FOCUS.

CORONAVIRUS, STATE OF EMERGENCY.

WE ARE BRINGING YOU THE LATEST ON THE PANIC FROM THE PRICE GOUMGING OF PUREL TO THE ECONOMIC FALLOUT FELT ON WALL STREET AND AROUND THE WORLD.

TO THE CONFUSION OVER CONFLICTING INFORMATION ABOUT COVID-19'S SPREAD AND SCOPE OF ITS THREAT.

TO THE STATE AND STATE-WIDE RESPONSE TO THIS OUTBREAK AND OTHERS LIKE IT IN THE PAST.

MEDICAL EXPERT AND VET RAAB JOURNALIST DR. BOB ARNOT CLEARS UP THE CONFUSION WITH THE REAL FACTS YOU NEED TO KNOW.

> THEN THE STRUGGLE FOR CULINARY SUCCESS.

HISTORY ONCE DICTATED A WOMAN'S PLACE WAS THIS THE KITCHEN.

BUT IN THE MALE DOMINATED WORLD THEY ARE IN A BATTLE FOR RECOGNITION AND RESPECT.

NOW SOME OF THE WORLD'S RENOUNCED CHEFS SHOWS US HOW THEY ARE DEFYING THE ODDS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS METRO FOCUS STARTS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

'METROFOCUS' IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH, SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III, THE SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM.

BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ, ROSALIND P. WALTER, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, AND BY --

HE.

> I HAVE OFFICIALLY DECLARED -- DONE A DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY, WHICH GIVES US CERTAIN POWERS.

SO WE ARE DOING MORE TESTS.

THE MORE TESTS, THE BETTER.

THE MORE POSITIVES YOU FIND, THE BETTER, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN ISOLATE THEM AND YOU SLOW THE SPREAD.

GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO METRO FOCUS.

I'M JENNA FLANAGAN.

NEW YORK IS ON HIGH ALERT TONIGHT AS THE NUMBER OF CORONAVIRUS CASES CONTINUES TO SURGE.

OVER THE WEEKEND, GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY TO BOOST EFFORTS TO FIGHT THE OUTBREAK WHICH HAD INFECTED OVER 100 PEOPLE IN THE STATE AS OF MONDAY MORNING.

NEW CASES HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN THE BRONX AND QUEENS, AND ALSO IN NEW JERSEY AND CONNECTICUT.

NATIONWIDE, THE DEATH TOLL REPORTEDLY STANDS AT AT LEAST 22, WITH OVER 550 CASES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

CONFUSION AND ANXIETY ABOUT THE VIRUS HAVE ALSO SPREAD TO WALL STREET WHERE TODAY THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE TEMPORARILY HALTED TRADING AS STOCKS PLUNGED AMID FEARS ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS AND UNCERTAINTY OVER FALLING OIL PRICES.

AMID CONFLICTING INFORMATION AND CONFUSION SURROUNDING THE OUTBREAK, WE ARE JOINED BY A WHICH WHO IS NO STRANGER TO VIRUSES SIMILAR TO THIS ONE.

DR. BARB ARNOT IS AN AWARD WINNING JOURNALIST, BEST SELLING AUTHOR, AND INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST WHO WORKED ON THE EBOLA CRISIS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US OR JOINING ME ON THE PROGRAM.

DELIGHTED TO BE HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

NEW YORK STATE HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY.

I SORT OF WANTED TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF THE STATE, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, NEW YORK CITY'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE FEARS AND THE CONCERNS AROUND COVID-19?

THE BIG THING IS FREEING UP FUNDS.

YOU WILL HAVE FUNDS FOR TESTING, HOPEFULLY FUNDS FOR EMERGENCY TRAINING, FUNDS MAYBE TO GET MORE ICUs AND ICU BEDS ON LINE.

THE DOWNSIDE WOULD BE THE NEW YORK CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION TALKED ABOUT IT, IT GIVES THE GOVERNOR DRACONIAN POWERS.

QUARANTINES, CLOSING SCHOOLS, CLOSING OFF STREETS, CLOSING OFF COMMUNITIES.

WE HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED IN IT LOW WITH ABJECT PANIC.

YOU HAVE 16 MILLION PEOPLE BASICALLY YOU KNOW, SHUT DOWN IN A PART OF THE COUNTRY.

AND THEY TRIED TO GET OUT BY PLANE, AND TRAIN AND CAR.

SO THE CONCERN IS THAT IT DOES GIVE HIM A LOT OF POWERS.

AND THIS IS A TOUGH SITUATION.

THIS IS NOT CHINA.

YOU KNOW, WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO SHUTTING DOWN A WHOLE DISTRICT.

AMERICANS ARE GOING TO WANT TO PUSH BACK.

YOU KNOW, SOME VERY HARD QUESTIONS WILL BE ASKED.

SPEAKING OF HARD QUESTIONS, THERE IS ALSO CONFUSION OVER GETTING CORRECT INFORMATION AND ANSWERS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE RECENTLY GOT SOME INFORMATION FROM MAYOR deBLASIO, HE WAS SAYING THAT QUOTE --

WHAT IF SOMEONE SNEEZED ON A COUNTERTOP?

THE DISEASE DOESN'T LAST LONG, LITERALLY MINUTES AND IT IS GONE.

I ASKED EARLIER WHO IF SOMEONE SNEEZED INTO SOMEONE'S DRINKING WATER.

IT DOESN'T TRANSIT THROUGH ANYTHING YOU INGEST.

WHAT IF SOMEONE SNEEZED ON YOUR SOUP?

IT DOES NOT TRANSMIT THROUGH ANYTHING YOU INGEST.

IT HAS TO COME IN THROUGH MOUTH, NOSE, ICE DIRECTLY BREATHING IN SOMEONE'S COUGH OR SPIT.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER OFFICIALS THAT THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE THE CASE.

DO WE KNOW WHERE THE MAYOR IS GETTING HIS INFORMATION FROM?

AND WHO IS IT THAT WE TRUST?

SO, THE GREAT NEWS IN THE UNITED STATES IS THAT THE CDC REALLY IS THE FINEST DISEASE SURVEILLANCE ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD.

THEY HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN CHINA AND HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN IRAN AND ITALY AND WHATNOT.

THEY ARE THE VERY BEST.

TONY FAUCI IS THE FINEST INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT AROUND.

I WORKED WITH HIM SINCE EARLY HIV, EBOLA, COCHOLERA ON THE CONGO.

IF YOU GO TO THE CDC WEBSITE THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU STRAIGHT ANSWERS.

WHEN POLITICIANS GET INVOLVED HERE THEY CAN VAMP A LITTLE BIT.

WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THESE ZEES CAN BE LARGELY, YOU KNOW, A DROPLET IN THE AIR THAT KIND OF COMES AT YOU, OR CAN BE A DROPLET THAT SETTLES ONTO SOMETHING.

THERE IS DIFFERENTIAL AS TO HOW MUCH OF A DISEASE IS SPREAD ONE WAY VERSUS THE OTHER.

RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW.

WE DO KNOW IT IS A MIX SO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS GOING TO BE DISTANCING.

THEY TALKED ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF MISINFORMATION, USING THE ELBOW SORT OF TO HANDSHAKE.

THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION THIS MORNING SAYS THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

THE REASON IS YOU WANT A SIX FOOT DISTANCE.

IF YOU COME CLOSE ENOUGH TO ELBOW OR FIST BUMP IT IS GOING TO BE TOO CLOSE.

IT IS THE ARROW SOL, SOMEBODY COUGHING, THE DISEASE GOING THROUGH THE AIR THAT IS THE PRIMARY WAY OF SPREAD.

SECONDARY IS SURFACES.

THE iPHONE, THEY MAY THINK IT MAY LAST UP TO A WEEK ON AN iPHONE, AN iPHONE IS -- OR AN ANDROID IS SORT OF A DISEASE-BREEDING PETRIE DISH.

AN ELEVATOR BUTTON.

THE DOORKNOB GOING INTO THE BATHROOM.

THE FAUCET.

THOSE ARE ALL PLACES THAT DISEASES BREED.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE SPREAD RIGHT NOW IS THAT.

THAT'S WHY THEY TALK ABOUT THE HAND WASHING.

BUT THE PRIMARY MEANS OF STOPPING THE SPREAD OF THIS DISEASE IS THE DISTANCING MEANING YOU ARE NOT NOT ON LONG HAUL AIRLINES, ON A CRUISE SHIP, NOT IN A BRIEFING.

IMOUT HERE, AND WE JOKE WE ARE SELF QUARANTINING ALL THE TIME.

I AM OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WOODS.

BUT IN NEW YORK, ON A SUBWAY, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT DISTANCE.

IF YOU HAVE THE TIME AND YOU DON'T LIVE TOO FAR AWAY FROM WORK, YOU WALK TO AND FROM WORK, AVOID THE SUBWAYS AND THE BUSES.

IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

SOMEONE COULD HAVE IT AND NOT KNOW THEY HAVE IT AND SOMEONE ELSE TO BE SYMPTOMATIC ABOUT HAVING IT.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD BE DOING?

WHAT IS INTERESTING, THERE IS A DIFFERENTIAL IN TERMS OF HOW LIKELY YOU ARE TO SPREAD, IN TERMS OF BASICALLY BREEDING THE VIRUS IN YOUR BODY.

IF YOU ARE VERY, VERY SICK YOU ARE BREEDING A LOT MORE OF THE VIRUS.

IF YOU ARE NOT ILL AND NOT SYMPTOMATIC YOU ARE LESS LIKELY TO BREED.

THE KEY THING IS IF YOU HAVE A TELLTALE TRACE.

FOR INSTANCE I SPENT -- I TRAINED UP AT DARTMOUTH, A WONDERFUL MEDICAL CENTER, WHERE I GET MY CARE.

AS YOU READ OVER THE WEEKEND THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD COME BACK FROM AN AREA WHO HAD BEEN WARNED, TOLD TO SELF QUARANTINE, DIDN'T.

WENT TO A PARTY WHERE THERE WERE MEDICAL STUDENTS AND OTHER MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND THEN THOSE INDIVIDUALS WENT ON TO OTHER PARTIES, FRATERNITIES AT DARTMOUTH OVER THE WEEKEND.

YOU CAN SEE HOW WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T PLAY BY THE RULES, WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED AND TOLD TO SELF QUARANTINE AND THEY DON'T.

THIS IS TOUGH.

THE REAL RESPONSIBILITY IS ON THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A COUGH, WHO HAS A FEVER, FEELS LIKE THEY ARE GETTING SICK.

TO YOUR POINT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE IS AN EARLY PHASE OF THE DISEASE, A COUGH A LITTLE FEVER AND IT GETS PROSECUTINGIVELY WORSE, A TIPPING POINT.

PEOPLE IN THEIR 70s AND '80s, WHEN THEY START TO GET SICK THEYED ISLY GET VERY, VERY ILL.

THE CDC IS VERY GOOD ABOUT TRACING.

SOMEONE GETS OFF A SHIP, THEY TRACK EVERY LAST LITTLE STEP.

IT IS THIS CONTACT CASE TRACING THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY PROTECTIVE STRATEGIES IN TERMS OF KEEPING US -- KEEPING US SAFE.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SORT OF MEDICAL HISTORIANS, IF YOU WILL, WHO HAVE TRIED TO LOOK BACK AT PREVIOUS PANDEMICS, THE INFAMOUS FLU OF 1818, 1819, AND TRIED TO SEE WHAT WE COULD LEARN FROM THOSE INCIDENTS.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE TAKING AWAY FROM HOW THOSE INCIDENTS OF INFECTIOUS DISEASE WERE HANDLED VERSUS NOW?

IT IS INTERESTING.

THE 1918 FLU, THE END OF WORLD WAR I, BOTH SIDES KNEW THEY HAD THIS FLU BUT DIDN'T DISSEMINATE THE INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY THEY HAD A VULNERABLE.

EVEN THEN YOU HAD GOVERNMENTS INTERFERING WITH THE PROPER DISSEMINATION INFORMATION.

BECAUSE THE SPANISH WEREN'T AT WAR, THEY REPORTED IT.

SO THEY CALL IT THE SPANISH FLU NOT BECAUSE IT EMANATED OR ORIGINATED IN SPAIN BUT BECAUSE THEY FAIRLY REPORTED ON IT AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS COMING FROM THERE JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE STRAIGHT UP WITH THE MEDIA.

I WAS AT AN EBOLA EPIDEMIC A FEW YEARS AGO IN NORTHERN UGANDA, WHICH IS A TRULY TERRIFYING EPIDEMIC.

PEOPLE PUT THIS ALL INTO PERSPECTIVE.

THE REAL RISK WORLDWIDE, THE HEMORRHAGIC FEVERS, PEOPLE WITH EBOLA, BLEEDING, IMMUNE SYSTEMS ARE FALLING APART.

CORONA IS NOWHERE NEAR THAT.

IT IS A SIMPLE RESPIRATORY VIRUS OBVIOUS LOW MORE SERIOUS THAT THE FLU IN THAT YOU COULD GET SICKER.

PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE INFECTIOUS.

HIGHER DEATH RATE FROM WHAT WE SEE RIGHT NOW.

BUT THIS IS NOT A TERRIBLE EPIDEMIC LIKE EBOLA N. THAT PARTICULAR EPIDEMIC WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY HAD HELICOPTERS READY TO FLY ANYBODY FROM THE COUNTRY IMMEDIATELY AND PUT THEM INTO ISOLATION.

IT EMPHASIZES REGARDLESS OF THE SEVERITY OF THE EP TESTIMONYIC, TAKE THOSE INDIVIDUALS, PUT THEM INTO ISOLATION, USE VERY CAREFUL CONTACT TRACING, WHO DID YOU TALK TO?

WHERE DID YOU GO TO DINNER?

WITH WHO WERE YOU IN THE ELEVATOR IS THE PRELIMINARY MEANS OF TRYING TO CONTROL THE EPIDEMIC WHEN IT IS EARLY LIKE THIS.

MY FINAL QUESTION, IT SEEMS THERE IS SO MANY EFFECTS THE CORONAVIRUS IS HAVING.

ONE OF THEM IS COULD IT BE CAUSE ING A GLOBAL RECESSION.

SO MANY THINGS WE ALL FOUND OUT WE USE IN OUR DAILY LIVES FROM CARS TO ANTIBIOTICS AND MEDICINE IS TIED BACK TO CHINA W. CHINA LOCKING SO MUCH DOWN THAT WE ARE SEEING PERHAPS A DISRUPTION IN THE SUPPLY CHAIN.

I CAN'T SAY AS A RESULT BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE ALSO SEEN IS SIGNIFICANT FALLS IN STOCK PRICES.

THIS IS CONTINUING TO HAPPEN EVEN TODAY.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT THAT?

I THINK THE BIGGEST OUTCOME FOR MOST PEOPLE IS GOING TO BE DISRUPTION.

YOU KNOW, THEIR KIDS' SCHOOL MAY BE CLOSED SO THEY HAVE TO STAY HOME.

THEIR OWN JOB, YOU KNOW, MAY ASK THEM TO STAY HOME.

IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY YOU MAY FOUND FEWER RESTAURANTS ARE OPEN.

YOU MAY HAVE QUARANTINES THAT SHUTS DOWN ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES.

YOU HAVE A SUPPLY CHAIN WHERE A LOT OF COMPANIES IN THE UNITED STATES ARE NOW STARTING TO STRUGGLE BASS THEY ARE NOT GETTING THOSE PARTS FROM CHINA.

APPLE COMPUTER IS AN EXAMPLE.

NOT ONLY LOSING SALES IN CHINA WITH THEIR IPHONES BUT FALLING BEHIND.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO STAYING OUT OF A RECESSION -- SURE IT COULD TRIGGER ONE BUT IT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY SHORT-TERM.

IT WILL SPIKE, THEN FALL OFF, AND THEN PEOPLE WILL RETURN BACK TO WORK.

LOOK AT AIRLINES CUTTING ROUTES, YOU HAVE CRUISET CRUISE INDUSTRY NOW BEING TOLD THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T TAKE CRUISES THERE.

WILL BE A LOT OF FINANCIAL DISRUPTION.

BUT IT IS RELATIVELY SHORT-TERM AND ONE WOULD HOPE THAT THE ECONOMY WOULD BE VERBOSE ENOUGH.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY JENNA TO CONSIDER IS THAT IN ENGLAND THE MOST TROUBLING THING IS REMARKING.

IF YOU ARE OLDER, THEY COME IN AND SAY WE ARE TO THE GOING TO TREAT YOU.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN THE UNITED STATES WE HAVE ROUGHLY 100,000 ICU BEDS.

IF YOU HAVE 1 MILLION PEOPLE THAT ARE INFECTED, 150,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE SERIOUSLY ILL YOU OVERWHELM THE COUNTRY'S CAPABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO TREAT IT.

I THINK WHEN PEOPLE WORRY, THEY WORRY FOR GOOD REASON, AND THAT IS WHEN YOU DO REACH LARGE LEVELS, THEN YOU DO RUN OUT OF SERVICES.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE BIT PANICKED.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF REASSURANCE IS, WE HAVE VERY FEW CASES SO FAR.

I THINK WE HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF LIMITING THE NUMBER OF CASES, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO ITALY, IRAN, SAUDI ARABIA AND CHINA.

AND WE HAVE THE VERY BEST TEAM WITH THE CDC AND WITH TONY FAUCI.

WE ARE IN GOOD HANDS.

BUT I WOULD SAY THE PUBLIC IS 10:00 STUCK IN A HANDCUFF PLACE.

THE HEALTH AUTHORITIES ALWAYS WANT TO DAMP DOWN THE EXPECTATION AND THE FEAR.

THEY WANT TO CALM PEOPLE.

THE PRESS WANTS TO RESPONSIVELY REPORT IT.

THEY ARE CAUGHT BETWEEN THE TWO.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR FAMILY.

HAVE A PLAN.

KNOW WHAT MEDICAL CENTER YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO.

BE IN CONTACT WITH YOUR DOCTOR.

JUST BE VERY EARLY AND VERY PROACTIV AT THE VERY FIRST SYMPTOMS OF ANY KIND OF A RESPIRATORY OR HEAD, COLD LIKE DISEASE AND REPORT THOSE SYMPTOMS AS SOON AS YOU CAN.

IT SEEMS LIKE FROM OUR CONVERSATION YOUR BIGGEST TAKEAWAY IS CHECK THE CDC WEBSITE.

THEY ARE THE MOST RELIABLE, MOST ACCURATE, WORLDWIDE.

THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB SO FAR.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY STRAIGHT UP IN TERMS OF WHAT TO BE FEARFUL OF AND NOT TO BE FEARFUL OF.

THAT'S VERY HELPFUL CONSIDERING HOW MANY, PERHAPS, MISCOMMUNICATIONS AND MISINFORMATION AND STUFF THAT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITHIN CONVERSATIONS.

YOU KNOW THERE IS A PLACE YOU CAN GO.

JENNA, IT IS A GREAT TOOUN OPPORTUNITY TO GRAND STAND.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A POLITICIAN NOW THAT DOESN'T WANT TO GET OUT THERE AND HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE.

IT IS A GREAT TIME TO GET FACE TIME AND SORT OF BE IN CHARGE.

WHAT I WOULD SAY IS TAKE A BIG STEP BACK FROM THE POLITICIANS REGARDLESS OF THE PARTY AND LOOK AT THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL.

THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU GREAT INFORMATION.

THEY WORK WITH YOUR STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES.

IT IS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO BE AS STRAIGHT UP AS THEY POSSIBLY CANNING THE YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT AND WHAT YOU SHOULDN'T BE WORRIED ABOUT.

FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THIS IS A MILD ILLNESS.

IF YOU ARE A CHILD YOU MAY NOT GET IT AT ALL.

20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, YOU SHOULD BE FINE PROVIDED YOU DON'T HAVE A CHRONIC ILLNESS.

THE BIGGEST PIECE OF INFORMATION TO DISSEMINATE IS IF YOU ARE A TEEN AND YOU ARE VAPING DON'T.

IF YOU SMOKE, DON'T.

PULL YOUR DIABETES BACK INTO CONTROL.

IF YOU HAVE ASTHMA, GET IT COMPLETELY UNDER CONTROL.

NOW THE TIME THE LOOK AT YOURAN KROIC RISK FACTORS AND REIN THEM IN SO YOU ARE READY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND GIVING US MUCH-NEEDED PERSPECTIVE.

I FEEL AS THOUGH WE ALL NEED THAT RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT.

THANKS, JENNA.

THANK YOU.

> WHEN IT COMES TO THE RESTAURANT WORLD, MEN HAVE RULED THE KITCHENS FOR DECADES.

IN FACT, IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT IT IS EASIER FOR A WOMAN TO BECOME A CEO THAN A HEAD CHEF.

BUT SOME OF THE INDUSTRY'S LEADING VOICES ARE FIGHTING BACK.

THEY ARE PUSHING TO ELIMINATE THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND DISCRIMINATION WOMEN HAVE ENCOUNTERED THE RESTAURANTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

FOR YEARS FEMALE CHEFS HAVE STRUGGLED TO BREAK THROUGH THE INDUSTRY'S GLASS CEILING LAND TOP JOBS AND EARN THE RESPECT THEY FEEL THEY DESERVE THAT STRUGGLE FOR SUCCESS AS WELL AS THE FIGHT TO PAVE THE WAY FOR THE NEXT GENERATION IS NOW AT THE HEART OF THE DOCUMENTARY, FINE LINE, A WOMAN'S PLACE IS IN THE ITCH CANNEN, WHICH IS AIRING ON PBS.

HERE'S PREVIEW.

I GOT EIGHT REJECTION LETTERS THAT SAID WE DON'T TAKE FWHEM OUR KITCHEN.

WOMEN HAVE TO CREATE THEIR OWN DESTINY.

WOMEN CAN COOK AS HARD AND FAST AS MEN INTO I AM A KID FROM SOUTHEAST WHO LIVES IN HOUSING PROJECT, ZERO EDUCATION, BUT IN MY HEAD I KNEW WHAT I WANTED.

THIS IS WHAT I KNOW HOW TO DO.

THE ONLY THING I KNOW HOW TO DO, REALLY, AND I AM GOOD AT IT.

WHEN I OPEN THE FIRST RESTAURANT, I HAD ONE CHILD.

AND I SAID LISTEN, I HAVE THIS TORMENT IN ME.

I AM A MOTHER.

I WANT THE STAY WITH HER ALL THE TIME.

AND YET I HAVE THIS BUSINESS AND I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AND I WANT TO DO THAT.

AND I NEED TO DO THAT.

THE PEDIATRICIAN LOOKED ME STRAIGHT IN THE EYES AND HE SAID CHILDREN WANT HAPPY PARENTS.

MAKE IT HAPPEN.

♪♪

PEOPLE SAY TO ME, WHY DO YOU KEEP GROWING?

WHY SHOULDN'T I?

WHY SHOULDN'T I DO WHAT I LOVE?

I COME IN HERE, AND IT IS HOME.

I KNOW MY KIDS ARE GOOD.

I FEEL THAT I HAVE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE FOR MY FAMILY.

NOW IT IS MY TURN.

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JOINING US NOW IS THE FILM'S DIRECTOR, PRODUCER, AND WRITER, JOANNA JAMES.

AS WELL AS VICTORIA BLAMY, EXECUTIVE CHEF OF THE ACCLAIMED GOTHAM BAR AND GRICHL SHE WAS ALSO HONORED AT THE FILM'S NEW YORK CITY PREMIERE FOR HER WORK IN THE INDUSTRY AND BEING AN EXAMPLE OF LEADERSHIP FOR WOMEN CHEFS AND RESTAURANTEURS.

WELCOME TO YOU BOTH TO THE PROGRAM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

FIRST, JOANNA, I HAVE TO SAY, THIS FILM IS SO INCREDIBLY RELATABLE.

THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE CHEF WORLD.

ABOUT THE RESTAURANT WORLD.

I MEAN THIS IS REALLY ABOUT WOMEN.

I AM WONDERING WHY YOU CHOSE TO FOCUS ON THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT OF IT?

NUMBER ONE I WAS INSPIRED TO SHOW MY MOTHER'S STORY.

INDUSTRY FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

I WAS RAISED IN THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY BY HER SIDE.

SEEING SOMEONE WHO WAS SO GOOD AT WHAT SHE WAS DOING, LOVED IT, GAVE IT HER ALL, BUT YET FACED BARRIERS AND OBSTACLES, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

THEN I BECAME A WORKING MOTHER WHEN I STARTED MAKING THIS FILM ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

AND EVERYTHING STARTED TO RESONATE ON A MUCH DEEPER LEVEL.

A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WOMEN FACE IN THIS INDUSTRY, THE HOSPITALITY OR RESTAURANT INDUSTRY ARE REALLY ISSUES THAT WE FACE ACROSS ALL INDUSTRIES.

ONCE WE CAN START TO EXPLORE WHAT THE REASONS ARE AND TRY TO TAP INTO ERASING THEM, I THINK WE WILL SEE MORE WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP AND OWNERSHIP AS OPPOSED TO THE DISPARITY THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

VICTORIA, I WAS WONNER DIAGNOSE, FROM YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE, HAVING SEEN THIS FILM, WAS THERE SOMETHING THAT PARTICULARLY JUMPED OUT AT YOU THAT YOU WERE LIKE, THAT -- THAT WAS MY STORY.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT HAPPENED TO ME?

YOU KNOW, I LOVED VAL.

I THOUGHT HER STORY, I THOUGHT IT WAS INCREDIBLE.

I WAS MENTIONING TO HER IT MADE ME CRY THE PART WHERE SHE SAID I BECAME A BULL.

SHE SAID I HAVE BILLS, LOANS, KINDS OF LIKE YOU FEEL LIKE THERE IS AN OVERWHELMING WAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT IS EATING YOU.

AND I THINK SOMETIMES THAT FEELING OF LIKE YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, AND THEN YOU BECOME SOMETHING THAT NOT NECESSARILY WHO YOU ARE, BUT WHO YOU HAVE TO BE AT THE TIME.

I THINK IT FOR SURE RESONATES WITH ME RIGHT NOW.

100% LEVEL.

YEAH.

WITH THE WHOLE ME TOO MOVEMENT THAT WE HAVE SEEN, SO MANY STORIES OF UNFORTUNATELY SOME DEPLORABLE BEHAVIOR THAT'S GONE ON IN ALL INDUSTRIES.

BUT DEFINITELY IN THE RESTAURANT WORLD.

VICTORIA, I WANTED TO GET YOUR TAKE ON HOW YOU HAVE SEEN IN THIS SHORT TIME, CHANGES BEGIN TO HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THAT.

HAS IT BEEN ENOUGH?

DO YOU THINK THERE IS MORE THAT NEEDS ON THE DONE?

I DON'T THINK IT IS ENOUGH.

AND I THINK IT IS TOO SOON TO ACTUALLY -- I THINK RIGHT NOW YOU CAN TAKE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE PRIVILEGE IN.

BUT I THINK IT IS TOO SOON TO SAY THINGS ARE CHANGING.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE MORE SCARED, RETRIEVE MODE OF OH, IT COULD BE YOU NEXT IN -- RETREAT MODE OF TO OH, IT COULD BE YOU NEXT.

INSTEAD OF WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO WRONG?

WHAT IS IT WEEK DO BETTER?

WHAT IS INTERESTING FOR ME IS IF I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT PERSONALLY IS HOW YOU TAKE THIS.

LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THINKING OH, THAT WAS HARASSMENT?

YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR 15 YEARS, AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE HAD REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCES IN GENERAL.

BUT OF COURSE I HAVE BEEN WORKING -- USUALLY BEING THE ONLY WOMAN IN THE KITCHEN.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE HAD SOME SORT OF HARASSMENT THAT IN YOUR BRAIN WAS TOLERABLE.

I THINK IT IS ABOUT TOLERANCE RIGHT NOW THE NEEDLE MOVES VERY DIFFERENTLY.

AND I THINK FOR SURE YOU WILL SEE IN TEN YEARS FROM NOW SEEING WHERE WE ARE GOING.

WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUNG MEN CHEFS TO TAKE AWAY FROM A FILM LIKE THIS?

I THINK NUMBER ONE, TO REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE, MEN HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SOLUTION, TO EMBRACE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, AND TO BE PART OF IT.

BY WHAT I SEE, WE HAVE BEEN TRAVELING THE COUNTRY OVER A THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF BRINGING THIS FILM INTO COMMUNITIES AND REALLY SPARKING THESE DISCUSSIONS AND ALSO HONORING WOMEN IN THE INDUSTRY WHO MAYBE DON'T GET THE RECOGNITION THAT THEY DESERVE BUT ARE ROCK STARS.

WE CAN LOOK AT THE INDUSTRY AND SAY THERE IS THIS AND THIS AND THIS WRONG WITH IT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, IT IS PRETTY HARD TO FIND AN INDUSTRY THAT YOU FEEL SO CONNECTED TO YOUR PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW.

YEAH, SURE.

I THINK THAT WHAT MEN NEED THE REALIZE IS LET'S LOOK AT EACH OTHER EQUALLY.

LET'S LOOK AT EACH OTHER NOT BASED ON SEX, COLOR, BACKGROUND, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, NOTHING, GENDER, LET'S JUST ALL PLAY OUR PART AND BE THERE FOR ONE ANOTHER.

AND I THINK FOR THE MOST PART IN KITCHENS THAT ARE PROFESSIONAL, WHICH BENEFIT THE MEN AND WOMEN ALIKE -- YOU KNOW, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FAIR WAGE, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT FLEXIBLE SCHEDULING.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PRACTICES THAT CAUSE FOR EQUITY.

I THINK THAT THE TEAMS GET IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOTHING WE NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM.

I ACTUALLY WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND RESPECT.

YOU KNOW?

I THINK WE HAVE MADE -- SOMETIMES I STRUGGLE TO UNDERSTAND WHY WHAT WOMEN HAVE ACTUALLY DONE IN THIS TIME IN THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD THINGS AND SO THINGS WE HAVE DONE WRONG BECAUSE WE WORK EXTRA HARD.

THE EXTRA HARD PART MADE IT MUCH MORE COMPLICATED IN GENERAL.

I ALWAYS KIND OF ANALYZE WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I THINK IN GENERAL I THINK DIFFERENT GENERATIONS ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TAKE THESE DAYS.

I THINK THE MORE WOMEN YOU SEE, THE MORE IT IS GOING TO BE A NORM.

YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST NORMAL TO SEE MORE WOMEN IN THE KITCHEN.

SO I WOULD LIKE PEOPLE JUST TO BE MORE RESPECTFUL.

THAT'S IT.

I HALLOWEEN FOR EVERYONE.

DISHWASHER, MALE, GENDER -- THE SAME DIVERSITY, SOMEONE FROM ASIA, SOMEONE FROM SOUTH AMERICA.

TOLERANCE IS A BIG WORD THAT PEOPLE FORGET THESE DAYS.

I CAN SEE IT A LOT IN KITCHENS SOMETIMES.

AND MANY AMBIANCES, TOO.

THE TOLERANCE IS NOT THERE.

I WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO BE -- TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WOMEN GO THROUGH, BUT ALSO TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY COME FROM, WHAT THE STORY IS LIKE, HOW TO PUT THEMSELVES IN THEIR SHOES.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I WOULD ADD FINALLY, AND ESPECIALLY EDUCATION FOR THE GUESTS AND THE CUSTOMERS.

WHEN YOU HAVE A GOOD EXPERIENCE, LET THE CHEF KNOW.

WHEN THE MANAGER KNOW, BECAUSE THAT REALLY MEANS A LOT TO THEM.

IF THERE IS AN ISSUE, TALK TO THEM.

UH-HUH.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE CUSTOMERS TO REALIZE THESE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THEIR WHOLE HEART AND SOUL IN WHAT THEY ARE DOING?

LADIES I WANT TO THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US, AND JOANNA FOR SUCH AN AMAZING FILM.

AGAIN, RELATABLE I THINK TO JUST ABOUT EVERY WOMAN IN AMERICA.

VICTORIA, OF COURSE FOR THE AMAZING BAR AND GRILL THAT YOU RUN.

OH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

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