CORONAVIRUS STATE OF EMERGENCY

March 10, 2020 at 4:30 am

We’ll give you the latest on the panic, the confusion, and the city and statewide response to this outbreak. Medical expert and veteran journalist, Dr. Bob Arnot gives us the facts you need to know.

Aired on March 9, 2020.

 

BOB’S TOP 5 CORONAVIRUS SAFETY TIPS:

  • VIRUS COULD LIVE IN THE AIR OR ON A SURFACE OR BOTH.
  • FIST-BUMPS AND ELBOW GREETINGS ARE TOO CLOSE; KEEP A 6 FOOT DISTANCE.
  • VIRUS COULD LIVE ON SMARTPHONE SURFACES FOR UP TO A WEEK.
  • DISEASES BREED ON DOOR KNOBS, FAUCETS AND ELEVATOR BUTTONS.
  • WHEN IN DOUBT, LISTEN TO THE CDC https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.html

 

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>>> I HAVE OFFICIALLY
DECLARED -- DONE A DECLARATION
OF EMERGENCY, WHICH GIVES US
CERTAIN POWERS.
SO WE ARE DOING MORE TESTS.
THE MORE TESTS, THE BETTER.
THE MORE POSITIVES YOU FIND, THE
BETTER, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN
ISOLATE THEM AND YOU SLOW THE
SPREAD.
>> GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO
METRO FOCUS.
I'M JENNA FLANAGAN.
NEW YORK IS ON HIGH ALERT
TONIGHT AS THE NUMBER OF
CORONAVIRUS CASES CONTINUES TO
SURGE.
OVER THE WEEKEND, GOVERNOR
ANDREW CUOMO DECLARED A STATE OF
EMERGENCY TO BOOST EFFORTS TO
FIGHT THE OUTBREAK WHICH HAD
INFECTED OVER 100 PEOPLE IN THE
STATE AS OF MONDAY MORNING.
NEW CASES HAVE BEEN REPORTED IN
THE BRONX AND QUEENS, AND ALSO
IN NEW JERSEY AND CONNECTICUT.
NATIONWIDE, THE DEATH TOLL
REPORTEDLY STANDS AT AT LEAST
22, WITH OVER 550 CASES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
CONFUSION AND ANXIETY ABOUT THE
VIRUS HAVE ALSO SPREAD TO WALL
STREET WHERE TODAY THE NEW YORK
STOCK EXCHANGE TEMPORARILY
HALTED TRADING AS STOCKS PLUNGED
AMID FEARS ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS
AND UNCERTAINTY OVER FALLING OIL
PRICES.
AMID CONFLICTING INFORMATION AND
CONFUSION SURROUNDING THE
OUTBREAK, WE ARE JOINED BY A
WHICH WHO IS NO STRANGER TO
VIRUSES SIMILAR TO THIS ONE.
DR. BARB ARNOT IS AN AWARD
WINNING JOURNALIST, BEST SELLING
AUTHOR, AND INFECTIOUS DISEASE
SPECIALIST WHO WORKED ON THE
EBOLA CRISIS.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US OR
JOINING ME ON THE PROGRAM.
>> DELIGHTED TO BE HERE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
NEW YORK STATE HAS DECLARED A
STATE OF EMERGENCY.
I SORT OF WANTED TO GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DOES THAT
MEAN IN TERMS OF THE STATE, AND
MORE IMPORTANTLY, NEW YORK
CITY'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO
ADDRESS SOME OF THE FEARS AND
THE CONCERNS AROUND COVID-19?
>> THE BIG THING IS FREEING UP
FUNDS.
YOU WILL HAVE FUNDS FOR TESTING,
HOPEFULLY FUNDS FOR EMERGENCY
TRAINING, FUNDS MAYBE TO GET
MORE ICUs AND ICU BEDS ON LINE.
THE DOWNSIDE WOULD BE THE NEW
YORK CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION
TALKED ABOUT IT, IT GIVES THE
GOVERNOR DRACONIAN POWERS.
QUARANTINES, CLOSING SCHOOLS,
CLOSING OFF STREETS, CLOSING OFF
COMMUNITIES.
WE HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED IN IT
LOW WITH ABJECT PANIC.
YOU HAVE 16 MILLION PEOPLE
BASICALLY YOU KNOW, SHUT DOWN IN
A PART OF THE COUNTRY.
AND THEY TRIED TO GET OUT BY
PLANE, AND TRAIN AND CAR.
SO THE CONCERN IS THAT IT DOES
GIVE HIM A LOT OF POWERS.
AND THIS IS A TOUGH SITUATION.
THIS IS NOT CHINA.
YOU KNOW, WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO
SHUTTING DOWN A WHOLE DISTRICT.
AMERICANS ARE GOING TO WANT TO
PUSH BACK.
YOU KNOW, SOME VERY HARD
QUESTIONS WILL BE ASKED.
>> SPEAKING OF HARD QUESTIONS,
THERE IS ALSO CONFUSION OVER
GETTING CORRECT INFORMATION AND
ANSWERS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE RECENTLY GOT
SOME INFORMATION FROM MAYOR
deBLASIO, HE WAS SAYING THAT
QUOTE --
>> WHAT IF SOMEONE SNEEZED ON A
COUNTERTOP?
THE DISEASE DOESN'T LAST LONG,
LITERALLY MINUTES AND IT IS
GONE.
I ASKED EARLIER WHO IF SOMEONE
SNEEZED INTO SOMEONE'S DRINKING
WATER.
IT DOESN'T TRANSIT THROUGH
ANYTHING YOU INGEST.
WHAT IF SOMEONE SNEEZED ON YOUR
SOUP?
IT DOES NOT TRANSMIT THROUGH
ANYTHING YOU INGEST.
IT HAS TO COME IN THROUGH MOUTH,
NOSE, ICE DIRECTLY BREATHING IN
SOMEONE'S COUGH OR SPIT.
>> WE HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER
OFFICIALS THAT THAT MIGHT NOT
NECESSARILY BE THE CASE.
DO WE KNOW WHERE THE MAYOR IS
GETTING HIS INFORMATION FROM?
AND WHO IS IT THAT WE TRUST?
>> SO, THE GREAT NEWS IN THE
UNITED STATES IS THAT THE CDC
REALLY IS THE FINEST DISEASE
SURVEILLANCE ORGANIZATION IN THE
WORLD.
THEY HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN CHINA
AND HAVE BEEN ASKED TO
PARTICIPATE IN IRAN AND ITALY
AND WHATNOT.
THEY ARE THE VERY BEST.
TONY FAUCI IS THE FINEST
INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT
AROUND.
I WORKED WITH HIM SINCE EARLY
HIV, EBOLA, COCHOLERA ON THE
CONGO.
IF YOU GO TO THE CDC WEBSITE
THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU
STRAIGHT ANSWERS.
WHEN POLITICIANS GET INVOLVED
HERE THEY CAN VAMP A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THESE ZEES
CAN BE LARGELY, YOU KNOW, A
DROPLET IN THE AIR THAT KIND OF
COMES AT YOU, OR CAN BE A
DROPLET THAT SETTLES ONTO
SOMETHING.
THERE IS DIFFERENTIAL AS TO HOW
MUCH OF A DISEASE IS SPREAD ONE
WAY VERSUS THE OTHER.
RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW.
WE DO KNOW IT IS A MIX SO THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING IS GOING TO
BE DISTANCING.
THEY TALKED ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF
MISINFORMATION, USING THE ELBOW
SORT OF TO HANDSHAKE.
THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION
THIS MORNING SAYS THAT'S A GOOD
IDEA.
THE REASON IS YOU WANT A SIX
FOOT DISTANCE.
IF YOU COME CLOSE ENOUGH TO
ELBOW OR FIST BUMP IT IS GOING
TO BE TOO CLOSE.
IT IS THE ARROW SOL, SOMEBODY
COUGHING, THE DISEASE GOING
THROUGH THE AIR THAT IS THE
PRIMARY WAY OF SPREAD.
SECONDARY IS SURFACES.
THE iPHONE, THEY MAY THINK IT
MAY LAST UP TO A WEEK ON AN
iPHONE, AN iPHONE IS -- OR AN
ANDROID IS SORT OF A
DISEASE-BREEDING PETRIE DISH.
AN ELEVATOR BUTTON.
THE DOORKNOB GOING INTO THE
BATHROOM.
THE FAUCET.
THOSE ARE ALL PLACES THAT
DISEASES BREED.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THE
SPREAD RIGHT NOW IS THAT.
THAT'S WHY THEY TALK ABOUT THE
HAND WASHING.
BUT THE PRIMARY MEANS OF
STOPPING THE SPREAD OF THIS
DISEASE IS THE DISTANCING
MEANING YOU ARE NOT NOT ON LONG
HAUL AIRLINES, ON A CRUISE SHIP,
NOT IN A BRIEFING.
IMOUT HERE, AND WE JOKE WE ARE
SELF QUARANTINING ALL THE TIME.
I AM OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
WOODS.
BUT IN NEW YORK, ON A SUBWAY,
YOU DON'T HAVE THAT DISTANCE.
IF YOU HAVE THE TIME AND YOU
DON'T LIVE TOO FAR AWAY FROM
WORK, YOU WALK TO AND FROM WORK,
AVOID THE SUBWAYS AND THE BUSES.
IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
>> SOMEONE COULD HAVE IT AND NOT
KNOW THEY HAVE IT AND SOMEONE
ELSE TO BE SYMPTOMATIC ABOUT
HAVING IT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD
BE DOING?
>> WHAT IS INTERESTING, THERE IS
A DIFFERENTIAL IN TERMS OF HOW
LIKELY YOU ARE TO SPREAD, IN
TERMS OF BASICALLY BREEDING THE
VIRUS IN YOUR BODY.
IF YOU ARE VERY, VERY SICK YOU
ARE BREEDING A LOT MORE OF THE
VIRUS.
IF YOU ARE NOT ILL AND NOT
SYMPTOMATIC YOU ARE LESS LIKELY
TO BREED.
THE KEY THING IS IF YOU HAVE A
TELLTALE TRACE.
FOR INSTANCE I SPENT -- I
TRAINED UP AT DARTMOUTH, A
WONDERFUL MEDICAL CENTER, WHERE
I GET MY CARE.
AS YOU READ OVER THE WEEKEND
THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD
COME BACK FROM AN AREA WHO HAD
BEEN WARNED, TOLD TO SELF
QUARANTINE, DIDN'T.
WENT TO A PARTY WHERE THERE WERE
MEDICAL STUDENTS AND OTHER
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND THEN
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WENT ON TO
OTHER PARTIES, FRATERNITIES AT
DARTMOUTH OVER THE WEEKEND.
YOU CAN SEE HOW WHEN SOMEBODY
DOESN'T PLAY BY THE RULES, WHEN
THEY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED AND TOLD
TO SELF QUARANTINE AND THEY
DON'T.
THIS IS TOUGH.
THE REAL RESPONSIBILITY IS ON
THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A COUGH,
WHO HAS A FEVER, FEELS LIKE THEY
ARE GETTING SICK.
TO YOUR POINT IT SEEMS AS THOUGH
THERE IS AN EARLY PHASE OF THE
DISEASE, A COUGH A LITTLE FEVER
AND IT GETS PROSECUTINGIVELY
WORSE, A TIPPING POINT.
PEOPLE IN THEIR 70s AND '80s,
WHEN THEY START TO GET SICK
THEYED ISLY GET VERY, VERY ILL.
THE CDC IS VERY GOOD ABOUT
TRACING.
SOMEONE GETS OFF A SHIP, THEY
TRACK EVERY LAST LITTLE STEP.
IT IS THIS CONTACT CASE TRACING
THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY
PROTECTIVE STRATEGIES IN TERMS
OF KEEPING US -- KEEPING US
SAFE.
>> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF
PEOPLE WHO HAVE SORT OF MEDICAL
HISTORIANS, IF YOU WILL, WHO
HAVE TRIED TO LOOK BACK AT
PREVIOUS PANDEMICS, THE INFAMOUS
FLU OF 1818, 1819, AND TRIED TO
SEE WHAT WE COULD LEARN FROM
THOSE INCIDENTS.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU THINK
WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE TAKING
AWAY FROM HOW THOSE INCIDENTS OF
INFECTIOUS DISEASE WERE HANDLED
VERSUS NOW?
>> IT IS INTERESTING.
THE 1918 FLU, THE END OF WORLD
WAR I, BOTH SIDES KNEW THEY HAD
THIS FLU BUT DIDN'T DISSEMINATE
THE INFORMATION BECAUSE THEY
DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE AWAY THEY
HAD A VULNERABLE.
EVEN THEN YOU HAD GOVERNMENTS
INTERFERING WITH THE PROPER
DISSEMINATION INFORMATION.
BECAUSE THE SPANISH WEREN'T AT
WAR, THEY REPORTED IT.
SO THEY CALL IT THE SPANISH FLU
NOT BECAUSE IT EMANATED OR
ORIGINATED IN SPAIN BUT BECAUSE
THEY FAIRLY REPORTED ON IT AND
IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS COMING
FROM THERE JUST BECAUSE THEY
WERE STRAIGHT UP WITH THE MEDIA.
I WAS AT AN EBOLA EPIDEMIC A FEW
YEARS AGO IN NORTHERN UGANDA,
WHICH IS A TRULY TERRIFYING
EPIDEMIC.
PEOPLE PUT THIS ALL INTO
PERSPECTIVE.
THE REAL RISK WORLDWIDE, THE
HEMORRHAGIC FEVERS, PEOPLE WITH
EBOLA, BLEEDING, IMMUNE SYSTEMS
ARE FALLING APART.
CORONA IS NOWHERE NEAR THAT.
IT IS A SIMPLE RESPIRATORY VIRUS
OBVIOUS LOW MORE SERIOUS THAT
THE FLU IN THAT YOU COULD GET
SICKER.
PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE
INFECTIOUS.
HIGHER DEATH RATE FROM WHAT WE
SEE RIGHT NOW.
BUT THIS IS NOT A TERRIBLE
EPIDEMIC LIKE EBOLA N. THAT
PARTICULAR EPIDEMIC WHAT THEY
DID WAS THEY HAD HELICOPTERS
READY TO FLY ANYBODY FROM THE
COUNTRY IMMEDIATELY AND PUT THEM
INTO ISOLATION.
IT EMPHASIZES REGARDLESS OF THE
SEVERITY OF THE EP TESTIMONYIC,
TAKE THOSE INDIVIDUALS, PUT THEM
INTO ISOLATION, USE VERY CAREFUL
CONTACT TRACING, WHO DID YOU
TALK TO?
WHERE DID YOU GO TO DINNER?
WITH WHO WERE YOU IN THE
ELEVATOR IS THE PRELIMINARY
MEANS OF TRYING TO CONTROL THE
EPIDEMIC WHEN IT IS EARLY LIKE
THIS.
>> MY FINAL QUESTION, IT SEEMS
THERE IS SO MANY EFFECTS THE
CORONAVIRUS IS HAVING.
ONE OF THEM IS COULD IT BE
CAUSE
ING A GLOBAL RECESSION.
SO MANY THINGS WE ALL FOUND OUT
WE USE IN OUR DAILY LIVES FROM
CARS TO ANTIBIOTICS AND MEDICINE
IS TIED BACK TO CHINA W. CHINA
LOCKING SO MUCH DOWN THAT WE ARE
SEEING PERHAPS A DISRUPTION IN
THE SUPPLY CHAIN.
I CAN'T SAY AS A RESULT BUT ONE
OF THE THINGS WE HAVE ALSO SEEN
IS SIGNIFICANT FALLS IN STOCK
PRICES.
THIS IS CONTINUING TO HAPPEN
EVEN TODAY.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ABOUT THAT?
>> I THINK THE BIGGEST OUTCOME
FOR MOST PEOPLE IS GOING TO BE
DISRUPTION.
YOU KNOW, THEIR KIDS' SCHOOL MAY
BE CLOSED SO THEY HAVE TO STAY
HOME.
THEIR OWN JOB, YOU KNOW, MAY ASK
THEM TO STAY HOME.
IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY YOU MAY
FOUND FEWER RESTAURANTS ARE
OPEN.
YOU MAY HAVE QUARANTINES THAT
SHUTS DOWN ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES.
YOU HAVE A SUPPLY CHAIN WHERE A
LOT OF COMPANIES IN THE UNITED
STATES ARE NOW STARTING TO
STRUGGLE BASS THEY ARE NOT
GETTING THOSE PARTS FROM CHINA.
APPLE COMPUTER IS AN EXAMPLE.
NOT ONLY LOSING SALES IN CHINA
WITH THEIR IPHONES BUT FALLING
BEHIND.
I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO
STAYING OUT OF A RECESSION --
SURE IT COULD TRIGGER ONE BUT IT
SHOULD BE RELATIVELY SHORT-TERM.
IT WILL SPIKE, THEN FALL OFF,
AND THEN PEOPLE WILL RETURN BACK
TO WORK.
LOOK AT AIRLINES CUTTING ROUTES,
YOU HAVE CRUISET CRUISE INDUSTRY
NOW BEING TOLD THAT PEOPLE
SHOULDN'T TAKE CRUISES THERE.
WILL BE A LOT OF FINANCIAL
DISRUPTION.
BUT IT IS RELATIVELY SHORT-TERM
AND ONE WOULD HOPE THAT THE
ECONOMY WOULD BE VERBOSE ENOUGH.
THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY
JENNA TO CONSIDER IS THAT IN
ENGLAND THE MOST TROUBLING THING
IS REMARKING.
IF YOU ARE OLDER, THEY COME IN
AND SAY WE ARE TO THE GOING TO
TREAT YOU.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS IN
THE UNITED STATES WE HAVE
ROUGHLY 100,000 ICU BEDS.
IF YOU HAVE 1 MILLION PEOPLE
THAT ARE INFECTED, 150,000
PEOPLE THAT ARE SERIOUSLY ILL
YOU OVERWHELM THE COUNTRY'S
CAPABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO TREAT
IT.
I THINK WHEN PEOPLE WORRY, THEY
WORRY FOR GOOD REASON, AND THAT
IS WHEN YOU DO REACH LARGE
LEVELS, THEN YOU DO RUN OUT OF
SERVICES.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHY PEOPLE
ARE A LITTLE BIT PANICKED.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF
REASSURANCE IS, WE HAVE VERY FEW
CASES SO FAR.
I THINK WE HAVE DONE A PRETTY
GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF LIMITING
THE NUMBER OF CASES, ESPECIALLY
COMPARED TO ITALY, IRAN, SAUDI
ARABIA AND CHINA.
AND WE HAVE THE VERY BEST TEAM
WITH THE CDC AND WITH TONY
FAUCI.
WE ARE IN GOOD HANDS.
BUT I WOULD SAY THE PUBLIC IS
10:00 STUCK IN A HANDCUFF PLACE.
THE HEALTH AUTHORITIES ALWAYS
WANT TO DAMP DOWN THE
EXPECTATION AND THE FEAR.
THEY WANT TO CALM PEOPLE.
THE PRESS WANTS TO RESPONSIVELY
REPORT IT.
THEY ARE CAUGHT BETWEEN THE TWO.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS PAY
ATTENTION TO YOUR FAMILY.
HAVE A PLAN.
KNOW WHAT MEDICAL CENTER YOU ARE
GOING TO GO TO.
BE IN CONTACT WITH YOUR DOCTOR.
JUST BE VERY EARLY AND VERY
PROACTIV AT THE VERY FIRST
SYMPTOMS OF ANY KIND OF A
RESPIRATORY OR HEAD, COLD LIKE
DISEASE AND REPORT THOSE
SYMPTOMS AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE FROM OUR
CONVERSATION YOUR BIGGEST
TAKEAWAY IS CHECK THE CDC
WEBSITE.
>> THEY ARE THE MOST RELIABLE,
MOST ACCURATE, WORLDWIDE.
THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB SO
FAR.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY
STRAIGHT UP IN TERMS OF WHAT TO
BE FEARFUL OF AND NOT TO BE
FEARFUL OF.
>> THAT'S VERY HELPFUL
CONSIDERING HOW MANY, PERHAPS,
MISCOMMUNICATIONS AND
MISINFORMATION AND STUFF THAT'S
ALL OVER THE PLACE ON SOCIAL
MEDIA WITHIN CONVERSATIONS.
YOU KNOW THERE IS A PLACE YOU
CAN GO.
>> JENNA, IT IS A GREAT TOOUN
OPPORTUNITY TO GRAND STAND.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A
POLITICIAN NOW THAT DOESN'T WANT
TO GET OUT THERE AND HAVE A
PRESS CONFERENCE.
IT IS A GREAT TIME TO GET FACE
TIME AND SORT OF BE IN CHARGE.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS TAKE A BIG
STEP BACK FROM THE POLITICIANS
REGARDLESS OF THE PARTY AND LOOK
AT THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE
CONTROL.
THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU GREAT
INFORMATION.
THEY WORK WITH YOUR STATE AND
LOCAL AUTHORITIES.
IT IS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO BE
AS STRAIGHT UP AS THEY POSSIBLY
CANNING THE YOU WHAT YOU SHOULD
BE WORRIED ABOUT AND WHAT YOU
SHOULDN'T BE WORRIED ABOUT.
FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC THIS IS A MILD
ILLNESS.
IF YOU ARE A CHILD YOU MAY NOT
GET IT AT ALL.
20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, YOU SHOULD
BE FINE PROVIDED YOU DON'T HAVE
A CHRONIC ILLNESS.
THE BIGGEST PIECE OF INFORMATION
TO DISSEMINATE IS IF YOU ARE A
TEEN AND YOU ARE VAPING DON'T.
IF YOU SMOKE, DON'T.
PULL YOUR DIABETES BACK INTO
CONTROL.
IF YOU HAVE ASTHMA, GET IT
COMPLETELY UNDER CONTROL.
NOW THE TIME THE LOOK AT YOURAN
KROIC RISK FACTORS AND REIN THEM
IN SO YOU ARE READY.
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND
GIVING US MUCH-NEEDED
PERSPECTIVE.
I FEEL AS THOUGH WE ALL NEED
THAT RIGHT NOW.
>> RIGHT.
THANKS, JENNA.

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