METROFOCUS: FEBRUARY 4, 2020

What effect could the Iowa caucus have on New York’s ability to determine the next Democratic nominee? Father Patrick Desbois, the priest who uncovered thousands of Hitler’s hidden killing fields, now reveals the ISIS terrorist factory and the exportation of hate.

Aired on February 4, 2020. 

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> TONIGHT ON 'METROFOCUS.'

THE HIGHLIGHTS, THE STAKES, AND THE POLITICAL FUTURE OF THE NATION.

WHAT EFFECTS COULD THE RESULTS OF THE IOWA CAUCUSES HAVE ON NEW YORK'S ABILITY TO DERP THE NEXT DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE?

THEN MODERN DAY ETHNIC CLEANSING.

PEOPLE WANT TO JOIN ISIS TROOPS TO CLEAN THE PLANET.

MY BEST FRIEND INVITED ME IN HIS HOME TO PLAY AND HE SAID HE CLOSED THE ROOM AND PHONED TO ISIS AND SAID I HAVE ONE IN MY HOME.

FATHER PATRICK DUBOIS, THE ONE WHO UNCOVERED HITLER'S KILLING FIELDS, NOW SHOWS THE EXPORTATION OF HATE.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS ME 'METROFOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

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> GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO 'METROFOCUS.'

DEMOCRATS 2020 PUSH TO UNSEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP GOT OFF TO A VERY ROUGH START.

THE IOWA DEMOCRATIC PARTY INITIALLY FAILED TO NAME A WINNER FOLLOWING INCONSISTENCIES IN THE REPORTING OF DATA.

AN EXPLANATION THAT LEFT DEMOCRATS FUMING AND REPUBLICANS GLOATING.

BUT HOW BADLY DOES THIS HURT THE DEMOCRATS' CHANCES OF RETAKING THE WHITE HOUSE?

HOW WILL PRESIDENT TRUMP CAPITALIZE ON THE CHAOS?

AND SHOULD IOWA STILL BE THE FIRST STATE IN THE COUNTRY TO VOTE?

LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN WITH OUR POLITICAL EXPERTS.

DR. CHRISTINA GREER, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE AND THE CO-HOST OF FAQ AND NYP PODCAST.

AND LAURA IS FROM THE NEW YORK NEWS EDITORIAL BOARD.

WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM.

SO HERE WE ARE AFTER THE IOWA CAUCUSES.

SO MUCH COULD BE FUSION, THE BREAKDOWN OF AN APP.

THIS WAS MAYBE THE WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR THE DEMOCRATS IN THE FIRST ON OF THE 2020 ELECTION.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY DEFLATING, DEMORALIZING, IT HAS LEFT ALL THE CANDIDATES WITHOUT MOMENTUM HEADING INTO THE NEXT CONTEST.

IT HAS DEMONSTRATED WHAT LOOKS LIKE BROAD SCALE INCOMPETENCE ON THE PART OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, AND THAT'S THE HALLMARK OF THE OTHER GUY.

AND I THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE HAD YEARS TO GET READY FOR THIS AND THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

HAVING SHOULD GO SO HORRIBLY WRONG COULD HAVE A POTENTIALLY SEISMIC EFFECT ON VOTER MORALE, ON, IT COULD ALTER THE SHAPE OF THE NEXT FEW CONTESTS TO COME.

IT COULDN'T BE WORSE.

AT LEAF WE HAVE PAPER BACK-UP, A PAPER TRAIL FROM THE CAUCUSES THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO ACTUALLY COUNT THE VOTES.

THINK ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THIS WERE DIGITAL HONOR ELECTRONIC ONLY.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER.

I WAS GOING TO SAY, THIS CAN'T LOOK GOOD FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

IT DOESN'T.

AND WE'VE SEEN REPUBLICANS CAPITALIZE ON THIS BY TWEETING, IF THESE PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN RUN THEIR ELECTIONS IN IOWA, HOW DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO RUN YOUR HEALTH CARE?

ALREADY SETTING UP A FRAIL OF AN INEFFICIENT, INEFFECTIVE, COMPLETELY NOT ORGANIZED GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS.

IT DOESN'T MAT HERE IS VICTORIOUS.

NONE ARE CAPABLE.

THE CAMPAIGNS THEMSELVES DID NOT FAIL.

THE APP AND WHATEVER THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN IOWA FAILED.

I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE STATES THAT DON'T HAVE BACK-UP PAPER BALLOTS.

THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A TWO OR POSSIBLY A THREE-STAGE PROTECTION SYSTEM.

BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REPORTED THAT THIS IS NOT A CYBER ATTACK.

THERE WAS NO RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE.

SO AS OF NOW, THAT'S THE STATEMENT WE'RE GOING WITH BUT WE WANT TO GO BACK AND CHECK SO EVERY VOTE IS PROPERLY HANDLED.

AND THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF STATES.

THE REACTIONS.

DOES THIS BUOY PRESIDENT TRUMP'S POSITION OR THE WAY AT LEAST HE'S ABLE TO LOOK IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS TO SAY, HEY, LISTEN, INWITH THE PARTY, OR I WOULD NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN?

IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT IS MORE LIKELY IS THAT IT SORT OF DAMPENS ENTHUSIASM ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

IT FEEDS PARANOIA ABOUT ELECTIONS BEING RIGGED.

IT UNDERMINES FAITH IN THE PROCESS.

IT COULD DEPRESS TURNOUT AMONG DEMOCRATS WHO WERE LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF HIGH FROM SEEING AN EXAMPLE OF DEMOCRACY FUNCTIONING WELL.

THAT CAN HELP BOOST YOUR CIVIC SPIRIT AND PROMOTE FEMALE TURN OUT TO VOTE.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A LIKELIER OUTCOME.

TRUMP IS NOT HIMSELF THE PICTURE OF IT.

IT IS JUST VERY UNFORTUNATE FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO ALSO HAVE SO PUBLICLY DISPLAYED SUCH A TOTAL SYSTEMS MELTDOWN.

WE DO KNOW THE STATE OF THE UNION THIS EVENING, THE PRESIDENT WILL OBVIOUSLY MAKE SOME SORT OF A LOOKS TO THIS.

THERE WERE PEOPLE CAUCUSED FOR THE PRESIDENT AS WELL AND THAT WRAPPED UP IN 30 MINUTES.

IT WAS ESSENTIALLY PRETTY PRO FORMA AND CEREMONIAL IN A LOT OF WAYS.

BUT GOING TO HER POINT, THE REPUBLICANS ARE COMPLETELY CHAOTIC AND NOT ORGANIZED AND INEMPTY IN SO MANY WAYS.

THE DIFFERENCE IS, THEY FRAME IT IN A WAY THAT THEY'RE WINNING AND THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL.

THE DEMOCRATS DON'T DO THAT SO THEY'RE CONSISTENTLY ON THE DEFENSIVE AND NOT THE OFFENSIVE.

SO IT DOES AFFECT A LOT OF VOTERS.

THEY THEIR WINNINGNESS OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NOTHING TO BACK THAT UP.

IT IS FRAMED BY THE PRESIDENT AND REPEATED BY THE MEMBERS OF HIS PARTY CONSISTENTLY SO THEIR MESSAGING IS ONE OF SUCCESS EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ALL THE FACTS THAT SAY THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

BEFORE WE LEAVE IOWA, METAPHORICALLY, OF COURSE, DOES THIS SET AN EXAMPLE?

THERE HAD BEEN TALK GOING INTO THIS CAUCUS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT IOWA SHOULD BE THE FIRST STATE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ELECTIONS SINCE THIS IS NOT A TRADITIONAL VOTE.

DOES THIS FURTHER THAT ARGUMENT THAT MAYBE IOWA SHOULD GO TAKE A SEAT AT THE BACK OF THE LINE?

I THINK DR. GREER HAS WRITTEN REALLY INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT THIS.

IOWA IS I BELIEVE A 90% WHITE STATE.

THE EARLY INDICATIONS, LATE POLLING IN IOWA SHOWED THAT IT SEEMED LIKE MAYOR BUTTIGIEG WAS DOING REALLY WELL.

BERNIE SANDERS WAS DOING REALLY WELL.

AND BROADER POLLING SHOWS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MAYOR BUTTIGIEG IS NOT FIRST IN THE NATION FOR MOST DEMOCRATIC VOTERS.

IT HAS THE POTENTIAL, THE IOWA RACE, TO, IN A BROAD FIELD, SORT OF SKEW THE PERCEPTION OF WHO THE FRONT-RUNNER WILL BE AND WHO HAS INTAEF BUILT GOING INTO OTHER RACES.

LIKE LOSING THE RESULTS FROM THE EYE WAS CAUCUS, HAVING THEM ZEROED OUT OR CANCELED OUT COULD MAYBE RESET THE DECK AND GIVE VOTERS MAYBE LIKE TRUER SENSE OF WHO IS ACTUALLY THE PERSON WITH THE MOST BROAD UNIVERSAL SUPPORT.

YEAH.

I WROTE A 'WASHINGTON POST' OP ED ABOUT WHY I DIDN'T THINK IOWA SHOULD BE THE FIRST STATE.

MY STUDENTS ALWAYS ASK ME, WHICH STATE SHOULD BE FIRST?

I THOUGHT ABOUT GEORGIA, A STATE WITH 16 ELECTORAL VOTES, A STATE WITH A GROWING LATIN ACCENT, ASIAN-AMERICAN, PACIFIC ISLANDER POPULATION GROWING, WHERE AFRICAN-AMERICAN REG STRANLTS ARE INCREASING.

WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME GROSS NEGLIGENCE AND CORRUPTION DURING THE 2018 GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION.

HOWEVER, THIS STATE LOOKS A LOT MORE LIKE THE UNITED STATES.

AND SO AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT POSSIBILITIES.

JUST BECAUSE IOWA HAS BEEN FIRST, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE FIRST.

I THINK OVER THE COURSE OF FOUR YEARS YOU SEE CANDIDATES PROMISING CERTAIN SUBSIDIES, AND ETHANOL DISCOUNTS BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE CERTAIN NATIONAL AMBITIONS, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT IOWA VOTERS WO WOULD WANT AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A REPRESENTATION OF THE ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY THAT EXISTS IN OTHER PLACES, NOT IOWA.

THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

WE UNDERSTAND VOTER TURNOUT WAS LOWER THAN EXPECTED AS WELL.

LEAVING IOWA IN THE MIDWEST AND MOVING HERE TO THE EMPIRE STATE, DO WE SEE THAT THIS PRIMARY COULD BE DEEP ENOUGH TO WHERE OUR PRIMARY WOULD ACTUALLY MATTER?

OH, YEAH.

I MEAN, I MAKE IT A PERSONAL HABIT TO NEVER TURN MY BACK ON BILLIONAIRES AND WE HAVE TWO IN THE RACE.

KEEP IN MIND, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG HAS IGNORED THE EARLY PRIMARY CAUCUS STATES.

THAT'S SMART, ISN'T IT?

AND HE'S BEEN PUTTING LOTS OF MONEY, KEEP IN MIND, HE'S $57 BILLION, AND HE SAID ONE, MAYBE TWO, WE KNOW HE WILL USES MORE FOR THOSE OF US AROUND IN THE ELECTIONS, WE KNOW HE DOES HAVE THE MONEY.

AND EVEN AROUND THANKSGIVING WHEN MY STUDENTS CAME BACK FROM BREAK THEY HAD SEEN MICHAEL BLOOMBERG ADS ON THANKSGIVING.

STATES LIKE OHIO AND PENNSYLVANIA AND FLORIDA.

SO HE'S NOT IN THE CONVERSATION TODAY, OR MAYBE EVEN NEXT WEEK.

HE'S DEFINITELY BEEN PICKING OFF MAYORS AND GETTING THEIR SUPPORT AND I THINK THAT MEANS SOMETHING.

IF JOE BIDEN DOESN'T SEW THINGS UP VER QUICKLY, AND IT IS LOOKING LIKE HE WOULDN'T, HE'S BEEN THE NOMINAL FRONT-RUNNER FOR MONTHS, THEN IT IS ANYBODY'S RACE AND MAYBE INCREASINGLY, BERNIE SANDERS AND BERNIE SANDERS HAS THE ABILITY TO INFLAME CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTIES IN A WAY THAT PERHAPS JOE BIDEN DOESN'T QUITE AS MUCH.

MAYBE THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE.

I THINK WE WILL SEE A VERY, VERY CONTENTIOUS BATTLE FOR EACH STATE GOING FORWARD AND NEW YORK ARE ABSOLUTELY HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY.

AS I UNDERSTAND, MAY O'BLOOMBERG IS PLANNING TO BE ON THE BALLOT FOR SUPER TUESDAY IS WHEN PEOPLE WILL FIRST BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR HIM.

THE STATES BEFORE NEW HAMPSHIRE, NORTH CAROLINA, ET CETERA, DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO WEIGH IN.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE FIGURED OUT THE MATH.

A PATH TO VICTORY.

AS MANY PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THIS IS A VANITY PROJECT.

HE JUST WANTS TO BE HERE.

I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK HE'S FIGURED OUT, NO, HE WON'T GET 98% OF BLACK WOMEN.

HE DOESN'T NEED IT.

HE DOESN'T WANT IT.

BUT HE KNOWS THE PERCENTAGE OF BLACK WOMEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND I'M SURE THE PEOPLE IN HIS ORBIT HAVE FIGURED OUT WHICH STATES AND HOW MUCH HE NEEDS TO GO INTO THE CONVENTION AS THE NOMINEE.

AND PART OF REASON THAT THE EARLY STATES ARE SO IMPORTANT FOR CANDIDATES TYPICALLY IS BECAUSE IT CREATES THAT SENSE OF INTAEF BUILT THAT HELPS THEM FUNDRAISE TO GET TO SUPER TUESDAY AND BEYOND.

AND IF YOU DON'T NEED TO FUNDRAISE, THEN YOU CAN JUST KEEP GOING AD INFIN I'DUM.

THE OTHER CANDIDATES HAVE A VERY REAL NEED TO BE IN THESE CONTESTS AND TO BE IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS AND TO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE THE POTENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR THE PARTY SO THEY CAN KEEP DOLLARS COMING IN.

SO THEY CAN KEEP WINNING AND MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I GUESS WE'LL HAVE YOU BOTH BACK SOMETIME IN APRIL WHEN WE GO TO THE POLLS.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING AS YOU SHORT BREAKDOWN.

THANK YOU BOTH.

> BAGHDADI'S PERSONAL REIGN OF TERROR IS OVER.

HE KILLED HIMSELF AND TWO CHILDREN AS U.S. SPECIAL FORCES CLOSED IN.

HIS DEATH COMES AS THE WORLD IS STILL TRYING TO COME TO GRIPS WITH THE TRUE SCOPE OF THE BRUTALITY ORCHESTRATED BY ISIS INCLUDING THE GENOCIDE OF THE PEOPLE.

HE RAPED AND TORTURED THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS OF THAT RELIGIOUS MINORITY IN NORTHERN IRAQ.

AND THE EFFORT TO TRULY COMPREHEND THE SEEMINGLY INCOME PRE HENCIBLE ATROCITIES IS BEING LED IN LARGE PART BY A FRENCH PRIEST.

FATHER PATRICK DUBOIS HAS SPENT MUCH OF HIS ADULT LIFE DO THING THE MASS EXECUTIONS CARRIED OUT BY THE NAZIS.

NOW HE AND HIS TEAM ARE INVESTIGATING ONE OF THIS CENTURY'S WORST ACTS OF GENOCIDE AND SHERIFF THE STORIES OF THE SURVIVORS.

IN HIS RECENT BOOK, THE TERRORIST ISIS AND EXPORTING TERROR.

HE JOINS US NOW.

FIRST OF ALL, COULD YOU TELL AS YOU LITTLE ABOUT THE YAZIDI?

HOW DO THEY DIFFER FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS?

SO YAZIDI, THEY ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE MOUNTAINS IN IRAQ AND SYRIA.

THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN RELIGION.

THEY ARE VERY EXTREME.

THEY ARE CLASSIFIED BY ISIS AS DEVIL WORSHIPPERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO BOOK.

SINCE THE BEGINNING, BAGHDADI TOLD THEM HE WOULD PUT THEM THAT SLAVERY.

SO FATHER, WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO GET THIS STORY SO THE SURVIVORS, AND TO GO TO THE CAMPS WHERE MANY OF THEM FLED?

AT A TIME WHEN THE SO-CALLED CALIPHATE STILL EXISTED, WHEN IT WAS VERY DANGEROUS?

YEAH.

I SAW THE IMAGE OF THE AMERICAN TRYING TO SAVE YAZIDI ON AUGUST 14, AND I SAW, THEY SAID IT WAS A GENOCIDE.

I TOOK THREE DAYS TO PRAY AND I SAID TO MY ORGANIZATION, I WILL NOT WATCH ON TV.

WE HAVE TO GO TO IRAQ AND WE BEGAN FROM SCRATCH.

SO TELL US, WHAT ARE THE STORIES THAT YOU LEARNED?

WHAT KIND OF CRIMES AND SUFFERING DID THEY ENDURE?

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY SPLIT THE FAMILY.

THEY TOOK ALL THE VIRGIN GIRLS AND SOLD THEM, MARRIED THEM.

A GIRL WHO GOES OUT OF ISIS TODAY HAS BEEN SOLD BETWEEN 25 TO 35 TIMES.

AND FORCED PREGNANCY FROM THESE PEOPLE.

FOR THE CHILDREN, THEY TOOK THEM AT 7 YEARS OLD AND PUT THEM TRAINING CAMP OF TERRORISTS AND SO THE CHILDREN DON'T REMEMBER THEIR MOTHER'S FACE, DON'T REMEMBER THEIR FATHER'S FACE, DON'T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE.

THEY DESTROYED THE FAMILIES.

AS YOU WRITE THE CHILLING CHAPTER ABOUT MASS SHOOTINGS AND MASS GRAVES, TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THAT.

SO ALSO, THEY DECIDED TO FORCE PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO ISLAM.

SO IF THEY REFUSE, THEY WERE SHOT.

SO FOR THE FIRST, WE FOUND 30 MASS GRAVES OF YAZIDI IN THE MOUNTAINS AND THE GRAVES WERE ALREADY OPEN.

DID THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE THE YAZIDI REFUSE TO CONVERT?

OR WAS THERE MORE TO IT THAN THAT THAT MOTIVATED ISIS TO COMMIT THIS GENOCIDE?

ISIS WAS KILLING ANYBODY NOT LIKE THEM.

ANYONE NOT RELIGIOUS COULD BE KILLED.

THE CHRISTIANS WERE KILLED.

AND THE YAZIDI WERE THE WORST BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO BOOK.

SO THEY'RE CLASSIFIED THEM AS EVIL PEOPLE.

SO THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY WANTED.

BY EXAMPLE, I INTERVIEWED A WIFE.

SHE WAS 8 YEARS OLD AS A CHILD.

AND SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS THE ONLY SURVIVOR OF THE RAPE.

SHE WAS RAPED BY FIVE GIRLS AND ALL THE OTHER GIRLS DIED.

ANYTHING WAS POSSIBLE FOR THEM.

AND WHO WERE THE MEN WHO DID THESE THINGS?

WHERE DID THE ISIS FIGHTERS COME FROM?

SO FROM EVERYWHERE.

OF COURSE FROM ARAB COUNTRIES, FROM JORDAN, FROM SAUDI, FROM -- BUT ALSO FROM AMERICA AND FROM CANADA AND FROM FRANCE AND FROM BELGIUM AND FROM GERMANY AND FROM CHINA.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO JOIN ISIS TROOPS TO CLEAN THE PLANET.

YOU SAY AT ONE POINT IN YOUR BOOK, YOU NEED NEIGHBORS TO HAVE A GENOCIDE.

I WILL NEVER FORGET THAT STORY.

ONE CHILD, MY BEST FRIEND INVITED ME IN HIS HOME TO PLAY AND SUDDENLY, HE CLOSED THE ROOM AND HE PHONED TO ISIS AND HE SAID I HAVE ONE IN MY HOME.

HE SAID I HAVE GIVEN TO BAGHDADI BY MY BEST FRIEND.

HOW DOES EXPERIENCE THAT YOU ENCOUNTERED COMPARE TO WHAT YOU LEARNED ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?

IT IS SIMILAR.

THE NAZIS WERE KILLING ANYBODY NOT LIKE THEM.

THE DIFFERENCE IS ISIS DECIDED TO SWECH THE BRAIN OF ALL THE CHILDREN.

BAGHDADI DIED BUT THEY SAID WE WILL ALL DIE.

WE WILL DIE IN MOSUL, IN RIKA, IN SYRIA, BUT YOU CHILDREN WILL SURVIVE AND YOU WILL BE THE NEXT GENERATION.

SO HITLER DIDN'T DO THAT.

HITLER WAS KILLING THE JEWS EVEN BABIES.

BAGHDADI DIDN'T DO THAT.

SOMETIMES YOUNG CHRISTIANS IN FIGHTERS.

HE HAD THE VISION.

BAGHDADI IS DEAD.

BUT IT IS FARTHER AND FARTHER, NO CHILDREN FROM ANY COUNTRY, EVEN FROM AMERICA, EVEN FROM FRANCE, FROM GERMANY AND FROM HAD IRAQ COUNTRY.

YOU SAID YOU DID NOT WANT THE PHOTOGRAPHS TO BE PUT IN SOME FUTURE YAZIDI GENOCIDE MUSEUM AS HAS BEEN IN HOLOCAUST MUSEUMS.

WHY IS THAT?

I SPOKE TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND I SAID I WOULD NOT LIKE TO COME BACK IN 20 YEARS AND WE MAKE THE CEREMONY OF THE MUSEUM OF HOLOCAUST, OF YAZIDI.

WE MUST STOP THE GENOCIDE.

IT IS WHY WE BEGAN TO ACT DURING THE ACTION.

AND ISIS IS STILL ALIVE.

IT IS NOT DEAD.

IT IS A MISTAKE OF VISION.

CORRECT ME IF I'M MISCHARACTERIZING WHAT YOU SAID.

IT SEEMS TO ME, THE BOOK PONDERS THE QUESTION OF HOW WE IN THE WEST COULD CONTINUE TO LIVE OUR LIVES IN AN ORDINARY WAY WHICH THIS GENOCIDE WAS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME, RELATIVELY OPENLY.

NOT HIDDEN.

WHAT'S THE ANSWER?

THE ANSWER IS THAT THERE IS A MINIMUM OF PEOPLE ARE SENSITIVE TO A GENOCIDE.

THE MAJORITY SLEEP WELL AND DON'T CARE.

SO WHAT I TRY FOR MY BOOK AND MY ORGANIZATION IS TO WAKE UP THE MINORITY.

WE TRY TRAIN A GENERATION OF LEADERS WHO WILL NOT SLEEP WELL.

I WONDER IF IT IS THE SITUATION, THE ANSWER IS NOT MORE DAMNING THAN THAT.

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY YEARS AGO TO INTERVIEW THE HAITIAN WRITER.

AND I ASKED HER, THERE WAS THIS GAIK KILLED A QUARTER OF A MILLION PEOPLE IN YOUR COUNTRY.

JUST A FEW WEEKS AFTERWARD, THE HEADLINES DISAPPEARED.

WASN'T WRITTEN ABOUT.

I ASKED, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE IS THIS SHE SAID IT IS BECAUSE WE IN THE WEST LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT AS TO ALMOST WHAT IS EXPECTED IN PLACES OVER THERE LIKE THAT.

THAT WE EXPECT THOSE KINDS OF BAD THINGS TO HAPPEN OVER THERE WHICH WE WOULD BE HORRIFIED IF IT HAPPENED TO US.

I WONDER IF THIS DEHUMANIZATION IS PART OF THE ANSWER?

YEAH.

MOST OF THE PEOPLE CARE ONLY IF IT TOUCH THEIR FAMILY, THEIR COLOR, THEIR CITY.

WHEN WE ARE SHOOTING IN PARIS, WE HAD 1 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREET.

WHEN WE ARE KILLING IN NICE, SOUTH OF FRANCE, NOBODY WAS IN THE STREET.

IT WAS ALREADY THE SOUTH.

SO PEOPLE SAY, OKAY, I'M AMERICAN MYSELF LIFE IS NICE.

WHY I WOULD CARE?

I'M FRENCH, I'M GERMAN, WHY I WOULD CARE?

MOST PEOPLE ARE ONLY CONCERNED BY THEMSELVES.

IT IS WHY WE HAVE TO WAKE UP A MINORITY OF PEOPLE.

NO.

PLANET IS ONE.

I CANNOT SAY I LIVE ON AN ISLAND.

SO WHAT IS THE PROPER RESPONSE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE ABOUT THE ISIS GENOCIDE?

WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING?

FIRST, TO OPEN OUR EYES.

SAID ONLY ON FACEBOOK, IF ANYTHING, WE CAN SAY THERE ARE 18 CAMPS OF YAZIDI.

25,000 PEOPLE IN EACH CAMP.

YOU CAN HELP.

WE HAVE TO CARE OVER WHY THE END, WE RECEIVE FROM GOD SAYING WHERE IS YOUR WROTE?

SO YOU'VE TOUCHED ON THIS IN THE COURSE OF THE CONVERSATION.

I WONDER IF YOU CAN ELABORATE HOW THE YAZIDI PEOPLE ARE DOING TODAY AND WHAT THEIR FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.

TODAY, 18 CAMPS, EACH CAMP IS 15,000 TO 25,000.

THEY HAVE NO EXIT.

THEY ARE STILL WAITING THEIR FAMILY TO COME BACK.

I CAN TELL YOU BY EXAMPLE, I SAW AN ORPHAN ARRIVING, 6 YEARS OLD.

HE APPROACHED ME AND SAID I DON'T KNOW MY NAME.

I SEE THEM, I WOULD BE SO HAPPY.

SO WITH FOREIGN CHILDREN LIKE THAT NO, FUTURE.

WE TRY TO EDUCATE AND TO MAKE A SIMILAR FAMILY AND TO BRING THEM TO THEIR FUTURE.

THEY HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT OUR PLANET AND WE HAVE TO HELP THEM COME BACK.

IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE PREPARE THE LAND FOR A NEW GENOCIDE ANYWHERE.

YOU WARN IN THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ISIS.

THAT THEY'RE NOT DEAD.

BAGHDADI MAY BE DEAD.

ISIS IS NOT DEAD.

WHAT'S THE BEST FACE OF THE ISIS ONSLAUGHT?

ISIS IS APPARENTLY TRYING TO TAKE BACK POCKETS OF TERRITORY IN IRAQ AND SYRIA AND ALSO IN MALI AND ALSO IN AFGHANISTAN AND ALSO SLEEPING CELLS OUTSIDE.

TRYING TO EXPORT THE FIGHTERS AND THE REFUGEE SYSTEM.

SO WE ARE VERY WORRIED.

IT IS NOT TO SAY NO TO REFUGEE, NOT TO SAY YES.

TO MAKE A SCREENING.

OTHERWISE, THEY WILL ENJOY THE SYSTEM OF REFUGEE TO COME INTO OUR COUNTRIES.

AND WE WORK WITH MANY COUNTRIES TO SAY AT LEAST THE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED.

GIVE US TIME.

GIVE US TWO WORDS.

IT IS TO BE SMART, I WOULD SAY.

ALSO MANY PEOPLE CAN MAKE A LIFE IN OUR COUNTRY IF WE HELP THEM.

BUT DON'T FORGET THEY TRAIN THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN.

BAGHDADI WAS BELIEVING IN THE FUTURE.

IT'S MY TIME.

THIS IS THE FINAL QUEFLT I HAVE TO ASK IT.

THE BOOK.

THE THINGS YOU DESCRIBE IN THE BOOK, IT'S LIKE A VISIT TO HELL.

IT'S EVIL THAT CHALLENGES THE IMAGINATION.

IT TRULY IS.

YET YOU ARE A CATHOLIC PRIEST.

YOU BELIEVE IN AN ALL POWERFUL, ALL GOOD LOVING GOD.

HOW CAN YOU CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT IN THE FACE OF THE HORROR AND THE EVILS THAT YOU WITNESS HE HAVE DAY?

THE WORST CASES, WE REMEMBER THIS WOMAN.

SHE WAS MARRIED BY FORCE BY AN ISLAMIC JUDGE.

HER HUSBAND MADE 75 BEHEADINGS.

ONLY IN ONE CITY, ALEPPO, AND SHE HAD TO WATCH AND EXPLAIN.

IT TOOK US EIGHT HOURS TO LISTEN.

WE HAD TO LOVE, TO CARE.

BUT ALSO NO LOVE WITHOUT JUSTICE.

NO LOVE WITHOUT TRUTH.

OTHERWISE, WE ARE, IF WE DON'T BRING LOVE TO THE WORST COUNTRY, WE MUST BRING LOVE WHERE EVIL SUCCEEDS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU WITH ISIS, THEY SUCCEED.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.

WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT YOU CAME TO SHARE IT WITH US.

THANK YOU.

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