METROFOCUS: JANUARY 24, 2020

January 25, 2020 at 5:30 am

In just over a week, Democrats will get the first opportunity to have their say. But as The New York Times breaks with tradition and endorses two presidential candidates, will the double endorsement make a difference? As the president boasts about the great economy, will it be enough to get him a second term? And could a brokered convention put Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama in the race?

Aired on January 24, 2020. 

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>> TONIGHT ELECTION 2020, A
"METROFOCUS" FOCUS.
VOTERS AND THEIR VOICE.
IN JUST OVER A WEEK, DEMOCRATS
WILL HAVE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY
TO HAVE THEIR SAY.
WHILE AHEAD OF THE FIRST
DEMOCRATIC CONTEST "THE NEW YORK
TIMES" BREAKS WITH TRADITION AND
ENDORSES TWO PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES.
WILL THE DOUBLE ENDORSEMENT MAKE
A DIFFERENCE?
BERNIE SANDERS ONE OF THE
FRONT-RUNNERS ACCORDING TO
RECENT POLLS COMES UNDER FIRE
FROM HIS 2016 RIVAL, REOPENING
OLD WOUNDS.
AND PRESIDENT TRUMP BOASTS ABOUT
A BOOMING U.S. ECONOMY BUT WILL
THAT BE ENOUGH TO SECURE HIM A
SECOND TERM?
PLUS COULD A BROKERED CONVENTION
PUT HILLARY CLINTON OR MICHELLE
OBAMA IN THE RACE?
A SPECIAL "METROFOCUS" STARTS
RIGHT NOW.
>> THIS IS "METROFOCUS" WITH

RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD AND
JENNA FLANAGAN.
"METROFOCUS" IS MADE POSSIBLE
BY --
JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH
SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III
SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA
PROGRAMMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT
ANTI-SEMITISM
BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ
ROSALIND P. WALTER
BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG
AND BY --
>> GOOD EVENING.
WELCOME TO ELECTION 2020 A
ETFOS"CU ROMAN.
TONIGHT WE CONCLUDE OUR SERIES
ON THE 2020 ELECTION WITH A
FOCUS ON THE VOTERS AND THEIR

VOICE.
WE ARE OVER A WEEK AWAY FROM THE
IOWA CAUCUSES WHERE DEMOCRATIC
PRIMARY VOTERS WILL HAVE THEIR
SAY IN WHO WILL ULTIMATELY BE
THE CANDIDATE TO TAKE ON
PRESIDENT TRUMP IN NOVEMBER.
AFTER A YEAR OF NONSTOP
CAMPAIGNING IT COME DOWN TO
THIS, THE VOTERS.
IT WILL START WITH IOWA AND MOVE
ON TO NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH
CAROLINA LATER IN FEBRUARY.
BUT THIS YEAR, THE NOMINATION
MAY VERY WELL BE DECIDED IN
APRIL.
WHEN THE PRIMARIES WILL COME TO
A HANDFUL OF STATES INCLUDING
NEW YORK.
BUT WHAT IF THERE'S NO PRESUMED
NOMINEE EVEN BY THEN?
COULD WE ACTUALLY SEE A BROKERED
DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION WHERE
OTHER NAMES MAY EMERGE, NAMES
SUCH AS HILLARY CLINTON OR
MICHELLE OBAMA?
AND REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS THE
NOMINATION OR WHO WINS THE
PRESIDENCY, WHAT WILL THE
COUNTRY LOOK LIKE AFTER
NOVEMBER?
WILL IT MANAGE TO COME TOGETHER
OR WILL IT BE DIVIDED EVEN
FURTHER?
THAT'S OUR FOCUS TONIGHT AND
HERE TO BREAK IT ALL DOWN FOR US
ARE NAILAH AMARU, J.C. POLANCO.
WELCOME BACK.
A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

SO LET'S START HERE AT HOME WITH
A "NEW YORK TIMES" DOUBLE
ENDORSEMENT OF SENATORS WARREN
AND KLOBUCHAR.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT AND IS IT
GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO
IOWA CAUCUS VOTERS OR TO VOTERS
BEYOND --
>> I DON'T THINK ENDORSEMENTS
MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE
WHETHER IT'S A PERSON OR A
NEWSPAPER EXCEPT FOR A U
DELIVERS TROOPS ON THE
GROUND OR THE NRA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE
IT WOULD MAKE IN EITHER CASE.
THE FACT THEY SPLIT THEIR VOTE
IS INTERESTING AND PROBABLY
LIMITS THEIR ABILITY TO HAVE ANY
IMPACT AT ALL.
THE CENTRAL DECISION I THINK A
LOT OF DEMOCRATS FACE -- I MEAN,
PEOPLE ARE DECIDING BETWEEN
WARREN AND SANDERS BUT IT'S THE
QUESTION OF WHAT TO EXTENT CAN
WE PHHANGE AND STILL GET
SOMEONE ELECTED?
AND BY SPLITTING THE VOTE
BETWEEN KLOBUCHAR AND LEFT WING
CANDIDATE WARREN THETFF SOMEONE
OUT WHAT TO DO.
>> IT ALMOST GOT AS MUCH
ATTENTION AS THE ENDORSEMENT BUT
THE SELFIE THAT JOE BIDEN TOOK
WITH THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN WORKER
WHO IN THE DOCUMENTARY THAT "THE
NEW YORK TIMES" ITSELF WAS
SHOOTING SAID I LOVE YOU, JOE,
HEANE DEN SAYS TE.
IT KIND OF PLAYS TO THE
STEREOTYPE OF LUNCH BUCKET JOE
VERSUS THE ELITES.
DOES IT SAY ANYTHING REALLY?
>> I THINK TWO JARRETT'S POINTS.
AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING -- YOU
KNOW, THEIR NEWS INFORMATION
FROM OTHER OUTLETS SO THE WEIGHT
OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
ENDORSEMENT MAY NOT CARRY AS
MUCH SWAY AS IT USED TO HAVE.
DEINE D OF THEESIDE
DAY, THE VOTERS ARE THE BEST
ENDORSEMENT AND SO YOU KNOW
WHILE CANDIDATES WHO RECEIVE
ENDORSEMENTS WILL MAKE THE MOST
OUT OF IT, AT THE END OF THE DAY
IT COMES DOWN TO WHO ARE THE
VOTERS GOINGSUPPORT?
>> NOTHING IS LIKE HAVING "THE
NEW YORK TIMES" ENDORSEMENT.
HISTORICALLY YOU HAVE THE
ENDORSEMENT THAT'S A BIG DEAL
AND, YOU'RE RIGHT, JARRETT, IT
MEANS LESS AND LESS.
WE SAW HOW THE "NEW YORK TIMES"
LETITIA JAMES, SHE WINS THE
PRIMARY AND THEN WINS THE
GENERAL ELECTION.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LESS
CONSISTENT AND LESS VICTORIOUS
WITH THE ENDORSEMENTS THAN I
HAVE BEEN WITH MY PREDICTIONS.
BUT IT GIVES YOU GRAVITAS, THOSE
WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A CANDIDATE
TO DONATE TO.
I THINK SPLITTING THE
ENDORSEMENT AT THE NEW YORK
TIMES EDGING THEIR BINSTS AND
ENDORSEMENT AND I THINK THEY DID
THE RIGHT THING -- AT LEAST
CONSIDERING THE TWO FEMALES TO
MAKE HISTORY IN THE ELECTION OF
THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT.
THEN SOMEONE REALIZES THAT IN
ORDER TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN E
YOU NEED TO GET THE VOTERS IN
THE MIDWEST AND KLOBUCHAR CAN DO
THAT WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOW.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT THE
FTWEREN AND THE
SANDERS CAMPAIGNS.
IT'S TAMPED DOWN, DEFUSED A
LITTLE BIT.
BUT IF YOU FOLLOW SOCIAL MEDIA,
VOTERS HAVE AGAINST CNN AND
MSNBC.
YOU READ THE TWEET IT SOUNDS
LIKE THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS
TALKING ABOUT FAKE NEWS.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE MEDIA
AND THE TWO PROGRESSIVE NEWS
NETWORKS INTI A
TRYING TO TORPEDO THE SANDERS
CAMPAIGN.
IS THAT TRUE AND IF SO WHY WOULD
THEY DO THAT?
>> I DON'T WATCH THEIRCAUSI ME
WATCHING PBS.
>> OF COURSE.
IT'S IN THE CONTRACT.
>> SOME OF THE CRITICISM IS
HYPERBOLIC BUT I THINK THE
CHARGE STICKS.
THERE'S A TREMENDOUS CENTRIST
BIAS IN A LOT OF THE COVERAGE OF
THE DEMOCARU SRS --
I THINK MORE SANDERS THAN
WARREN.
I THINK THERE'S AN ARCHNESS TO
HOW THEY'RE COVERED.
SOMETIMES IT'S SUBTLE, SOMETIMES
IT'S MORE DIRECT AND YOU KNOW,
ACCEPTING THEACWARREN'S
VERSION OF THE TRUTH WAS CORRECT
AND SANDERS WAS NOT.
ONE, I THINK SANDERS AND WARREN
REPRESENTS A CHANGE THAT CAN BE
THREATENING TO THE PEOPLE WHO
CONTROL THE NETWORKS AND IT
TRICKLES DOWN AND THE REPORTERS
AND THE EDITORS LEAN DEMOCRATIC
AND THEY WANT TO SEE A
DEMOCRATIC VICTORY AND THEIR
SKEPTICISM OF WARREN AND SANDERS
IS A BELIEF THAT THE CENTRIST
NEEDS TO RUN AND WIN.
>> THE DNC TRIED TO TORPEDO THE
SANDERS CAMPAIGN IN 2016 AND
THEY IT WASN'T JUST THEIR DOING,
AND THEY TRIED TO HELP.
YOU SAID, NO, I DON'T THEY'RE
DOING IT AGAIN.
THIS IS HOW THE DNC IS
TORPEDOING, THROUGH THEIR
PARTNERS AT THE MEDIA YA LIKE
JEFF ZUCKER.
>> THEY'RE LIKE DONALD TRUMP
SUPPORTERS.
YOU HEAR THED GGYOU HEAR SET-UP.
AND IT'S ALMOST AS IF -- IF YOU
CAN EASILY -- THE VOTERS ARE
JUST AS RABID IN THEIR BELIEF
THAT THE SYSTEM IS AGAINST THEM.
YOU HEAR THE RHETORIC IT'S
IDENTICAL TO PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS,
BERNIE SANDERS NOT A DEMOCRATHE
A MEMBER OF THE PARTY.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE
DEMOCRATS INCLUDING HILLARY

CLINTON THAT BLAME BERNIE

SANDERS FOR THEIR LOSS.
HE DID A NUMBER ON DEMOCRATS
ESPECIIG WH LOST MIC
HILLARY CLINTON.
PEOPLE WHO ARE TRUE DEMOCRATS,
REGISTERED DEMOCRATS WHO FOUGHT
FOR THE PARTY FOR THEIR WHOLE
LIVES WHO SEES THEAL
MEDICAID LIKE HEALTH CARE
INSURANCE AND SEES HIM LOSING IN
NOVEMBER SO PEOPLE ARE ANGRY
ABOUT IT.
>> ARE THE -- IS THE DEMOCRATIC
ESTABLISHN'T AFRAID OF A BERNIE
NOMINATION?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK YOU KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT
TO NOTE THAT A CRITIQUE AGAINST
SANDERS IS NOT RIGGING THE
ELECTION AS HIS SUPPORTERS WOULD
LIKE TO TELL YOU.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
EVERY CANDIDATE OFFERS THEIR
LEADERSHIP TO BE THE
PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE BEING
WILLING TO WITHSTAND VALID
CRITIQUES OF THEIR CAMPAIGN.
AND SO I THINK THAT THE HERO IS
SANDERS AND VILLAIN IS MEDIA IS
A REALLY SIMPLIFIED NARRATIVE OF
HOW COMPLICATED THE PRIMARY
PROCESS CAN BE.
BUT ALSO TO BE WILLING TO ANSWE,
NOT NECESSARILY SAY IT'S RIGGED.
>> YOU KNOW, LAST TIME WE
BARELY -- WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH
TIME BUT WE BARELY TOUCHED ON
THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ALREADYMP
HIS PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT THERE
WITH IT.
AND HE RECENTLY SPOKE AT THE
DAVOS CONFERENCE IN EUROPE WHERE
HE FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMIC
ACHIEVEMENTS WHICH GIVES CREDIT
FOR AND OF COURSEOOME
BECAUSE IF HE FAILED WE WOULD
GIVE HIM THE BLAME.
LET ME GIVE A BRIEF LIST OF SOME
OF THE ONES THEY TALK ABOUT THE
MOST.
ALMOST 4 MILLION JOBS HAVE BEEN
CRIN ELECTION.
MORE THAN 400,000 MANUFACTURING
JOBS HAVE BEEN CREATED.
NEW UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS HAVE HIT
A 49 YEAR LOW. HIT --
AFRICAN-AMERICAN, UNEMPLOYMENT
NUMBERS HAVE DROPPED TO THE
LOWEST RATES EVER RECORDED FOR
EACH OF THE GROUPS.
WE MENTIONED THAT BRIEFLY LAST
TIME.
WOMEN'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATES HAVE
REACHED THE LOWEST RATES IN 65
YEARS AND THE STOCK MARKET
REACHING THE HIGHEST RATES.
THEY HAVE NOT REACTED OR
RESPONDED TO THE NUMBERS AND THE
CLAIM THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS
HA HAS DOING.
HOW ARE THEY -- HOW SHOULD THEY
RESPOND AND WHAT ARE THE
ISSUES -- THE WINNING ISSUES
THEY HAVE TO BRING TO THE VOTERS
IN NOVEMBER?
>> UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE
DEMOCRATS THIS TIME AROUND, WE
HAVE CULTURALLY CREDITED THE
PRESIDENT FOR NATIONAL CC
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.
WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA TOOK OVER,
WE SAW THE ECONOMY IMPROVE, THE
WHOLE COUNTRY SAID LOOK,
PRESIDENTO C THE WST ECONOMY SIE
DEPRESSION.
WE HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE
FACT THAT LOWERING THE TAX --
THE CORPORATE TAX RATE WAS
SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP
WOULD TAKE CREDIT FOR.
THE STOCK MARKET IS BOOMING T L
RECORD IN THE COUNTRY.
WE GIVE THE CREDIT TO THE
SITTING PRESIDENT AND THE
DEREGULATION HAS HELPED THEM A
GREAT DEAL.
YES, UNEMPLOYMENT IS LOW, LOWEST
EVER, BUT VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE
I'M GOING TO DO WHTH DEMOCRATS
CONCERNED ABOUT.
YOU HAVE CANDIDATES SAYING WE'LL
TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE,
INCREASE YOUR TAXES.
THAT'S GOING TO SCARE THE
INDEPENDENT VOTERS THAT WILL
MAKE THE DECISION OF WHO WILL

WIN THE PRESIDENC YE THE -- HOWE

DEMOCRATS RESPOND TO THE NUMBERS
AND WHAT ARE THE ISSUES?
WHAT ARE THE CONCRETE WINNING
ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE TO BEGIN
TO PUT OUT THERE TO WIN IN
NOVEMBER?
>> SO THE CANDIDATES NEED TO
ESSENTIALLY MAKE THE CASE ON WHY
THEY'RE THE ONES B
AND TO THE POINT -- THE STRENGTH
OF THE ECONOMY IS DEFINITELY
GOING TO PLAY TO TRUMP'S FAVORGE
RV CREDIT.
THE NARRATIVE IS OUT THERE HE'S
TAKING CREDIT FOR IT AND THE
CYCLES OF THE ECONOMY WORKED OUT
IN HIS FAVOR.
MAKE THE CASE THEY'RE THE ONES
WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP AND ALSO,
RECLAIM THE POWER OF WHY THEY
CAN ALSO STRENGTHEN THE ECONOMY.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, INCOME
INEQUALITY, WEALTH DISPARITIES,
CRIMINALCERE ALL
IS ISSUES, GUN, REFORM, CLIMATE
CHANGE, CLIMATE CHANGE --
>> ARE THESE WINNING ISSUES?
SOME DON'T POLL WELL.
>> IT DEPENDS ON THE BASE IN THE

DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND ALSO THE
BASE THAT CAN CHANGE DEPENDING
ON VOTER TURNOUT WHEN IT COMES
TO THE GENERAL ELECTION.
>> JARRETT, THE DEMOCRATS DIDN'T
WIN THE HOUSE, DIDN'T TAKE BACK
THE HOUSE IN 2018 BY TALKING
ABOUT IMPEACHMENT.
THEY BASICALLY DID IT IN LOCAL
AREAS BY TALKING ABOUT HEALTH
CARE, ACTUALLY, LY
WT WINNING ISSUES
THAT THESE DEMOCRATS -- WHOEVER
WINS HAS TO BRING TO THE VOTERS
IN ORDER TO GET THEIR VOTE?
>> IT STRIKES ME THAT WHEN
DONALD TRUMP WAS ELECTED IN
2016, YOU HAD -- WE HAD ENJOYED
A LONG PERIOD OF SLOW, BUT
STEADY ECONOMIC GROWTH.
INCREASING GDP AND YET TRUMP W
ABLE TO MAKE A SUCCESSFUL
ECONOMICAL/CASE AND THE
DEMOCRATS CAN MAKE THE SAME
ARGUMENTS.
WHILE MANY OF THE NUMBERS DO
LOOK GREAT AND SOME OF THE
NUMBERS CLOSELY TIED TO THE
ANXIETIES THAT TRUMP TAPPED INT
LOOK, WE KNOW THE ECONOMY IS
IMPROVING.
YOU KNOW, YOUR SON HAS A JOB
NOW.
YOUR DAUGHTER COMING OUT OF
SCHOOL HAS A GIG BUT ARE THEY
MAKING ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN
THEMSELVES?
ARE THEY STILL LIVING AT HOME,
PARENT, IS YOUR MEDICAL CARE
ESERE FOR YOU?
DEMOCRATS HAVE TIME TO

ARTICULATE THE MESSAGE.
>> DESPITE THESE WINNING BOOMING
ECONOMIC NUMBERS AND DESPITE THE
FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT AND HIS
TEAM HAVE BEEN CAMPAIGNING ON IT
FOR REALLY THREE YEARS NOW.
OR AT LEAST FOR A YEAR.
YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE NATIONAL
THE TOP DEMOCRATIC
FRONT-RUNNERS BEATING TRUMP.
>> RIGHT.
>> ALL OF THEM.
>> I GUARANTEE YOU ONE THING ON
THE PROGRAM.
WHOEVER THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE
IS WILL WINAR V
MILLIONS OF VOTES BUT THAT'S NOT
GOING TO CHANGE THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE.
MANY OF THE DEMOCRATS WILL COME
OUT IN LARGERS
THEERCATION OF HOW THIS YEAR I
GOING TO LOOK, YOU'LL SEE THE
INCREDIBLE TURNOUT BUT THEY'LL
COME OUT IN THE STATES THAT THEY
CONTINUE TO WIN.
NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA, ILLINOIS.
SO YOU'LL HAVE MILLIONS OF MORE
PEOPLE BUT WILL THEY TRUMP IN S?

I DON'T SEE THESE DEMOCRATS THAT
ARE FRONT-RUNNERS BEING ABLE TO
TAP INTO THE CENTR MODATVOOUTE
BE.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO WIN THE
THREE STATES IF YOU ELECT
SOMEONE LIBERAL ON THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE.
>> BUT I GUESS J.C. IS ASSUMING
THEY'RE RIGHT, RIGHT FOR THE
POPULAR VOTE.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE WRONG IN
2016.
SOME PEOPLE SAY YOU HAVE TO ADD

FIVE TO SEVEN POINTS IN THE
TRUMP NUMBERS.
SO DO YOU TRUST THE POLLS?
>> I DON'T.
I DON'T TRUST THEM, THEY'RE A
SNAPSHOT, BUT A SNAPSHOT WITH
LIMITED INFORMATION.
I WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN
THE APPROVAL TRUMP
WHICH HAVE MORE -- THEY HAVE A
BETTER INDICATION OF WHERE THE
REAL SUPPORT IS ON THE GROUND.
AND ALSO, I THINK IN TERMS OF
THE POLLING IN WHICH -- AND
WHAT'S IT'S SHOWING, IT SHOWS
THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING
SOMETHING RIGHTMEAGG RGIZIT GOE,
NEWTON'S THIRD LAW.
YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY ACTION
THAT'S AN OPPOSITE AND DIFFERENT
REACTION.
WHILE THE BASE IS REORNIWE TEMS

SHOWED UP IN 2016 THAT NOBODY
AND I USE THAT IN QUOTES SAW
COMING BUT WAS VERY REAL AND
ESSENTIALLY TURNEDRUO
RPRESIDENT.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I ALWAYS TAKE
POLLS WITH GRAIN OF SUPP OLHE LL
VO ALGORITHM.
NOT WHO ANSWERED THE PHONE AND
SAID TRUMP OR CLINTON OR
SANDERS.
THAT SURPRISED PEOPLE IN 2016.
THAT'S THE BIG X-FACTOR THIS

YEAR.
IT'S WAY TOO EARLY TO THINK
ABOUT THE NATIONAL POLLS.
THEY MIGHT SHOW MOVEMENT POLL TO
POLL BUT IN THE SNAPSHOT I WOULD
TOSS IT OUT.
>> LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, J.C.
MENTIONED HE DIDN'T THINK THAT
THE IOWA CAUCUS -- WHOEVER WINS
IT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE
DECISIVE.
WHAT PRIMARY OR SET OF PRIMARIES
ARE DECISIVE?
>> I THINK SOUTH CAROLINA IS
CRITICAL BECAUSE THAT'S DIVERSE,
LARGE STATE.
DESPITE THEIR INORDINATE
IMPORTANCE IN OUR PROCESS, NEW
HAMPSHIRE AND IOWA ARE PROBABLY
THE WEIRDEST STATES TO BASE THE
WHOLE SYSTEM ON AND THEN NEVADA.
THEY'RE THE FASTEST GROWING,
DIVERSIFYING.
THOSE ARE TWO
MOMENTS.
>> YOU'RE NODDING A LOT.
>> YEAH, I SHARE FRUSTRATION IN
TERMS OF WHY NEW HAMPSHIRE AND
IOWA SHARE SUCH A
DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF POWER
IN TERMS OF MEDIA LEVERAGING.
THAT PART THAT CONTROLS PRESCAM.
BUT ALSO SOUTH CAROLINA BECAUSE
OF THE BLACK ELECTORATE WHICH IS
A KEY CORE CONSTITUENCY OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND NEVADA IS
FASTLY BECOMING, YOU KNOW, MORE
AND MORE PEOPLEE,KNOW, MOVING I.
I THINK THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE
CHANGING AND I THINK THAT'S
IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ON BOTH
SIDES O AISLE.
WITH THE CHANGING ELECTORATE AND
MILLENNIALS ARE THE OFFICIAL
LARGEST VOTING BLOC.
WHETHER THEY TURN OUT TO VOTE IS
A NEW QUESTION, BUT IT'S A CYCLE
THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY PART OF
THE CONVERSATION C T16.
>> J.C., IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE
MAY NOT HAVE A PRESUMPTIVE
NOMINEE BY THE SPRING, BY APRIL,
AND THAT NEW YORK -- THAT'S WHEN

WE VOTE, THAT WE MAY BE THE
QUEEN OR KINGMAKERS THIS TIME
AROUND?
>> THAT WOULD BE EXCITING.
IOEE OTHER
STATES GET THE ATTENTION, YOU
TALKED ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT
WHY NOT NEW YORK?
CONSIDERING THAT YOU HAVE SO
MANY OF THE CANDIDATES --
THEY'RE WITHIN A COUPLE OF
POINTS OF EACH OTHERIKE MBER
OF A BILLION DOLLARS AND
SHOOTING UP TO 9% OR 10% IN SOME
OF THESE.
WE DON W WILL HAPPEN
AFTER SUPER TUESDAY AND THEY CAN
BE VERY CLOSE.
AS PEOPLE ARE WATCHING PBS AND
LISTENING TO ME, THE ONLY WAY
YOU CAN WIN IS BY ELECTING A
CENTRIST MAYBE JUST MAYBE YOU
HAVE A BIDEN/BLOOMBERG PRIMARY
COMING TO NEW YORK AND WHO KNOWS
MILO AND JOE BIDEN W YORK A
PRIMARY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE --
>> THAT'S INTERESTING.
>> PBS, WE'LL BE BACK FOR SURE.
>> YOU KNOW, IN A RECENT
DOCUMENTARY IN HULU, I BELIEVE
HILLARY CLINTON SAID THIS ABOUT
BERNIE SANDERS. WN CONES YEARS.
HE HAD ONE SENATOR SUPPORT HIM.
NOBODY LIKES HIM, NOBODY WANTS
TO WORKITHIM. NOTHING DONE.
HE WAS A CAREER POLITICIAN.
IT'S ALL JUST BALONEY AND I FEEL
SO BAD PEOPLE GET SUCKED INTO
IT.
TO WHICH BERNIE SANDERS
RESPONDED THIS WE HAVE A CLIP,
LET'S HEAR IT.
>> I'LL --
>> WHAT DO YOU THINEC
>> LOOK, LOOK, SECRETARY CLINTON
IS ENTITLED TO HER POINT OF
VIEW.
MY JOB TODAY IS TO FOCUS ON THE
IMPEACHMENMY J PUT TOGETHER
A TEAM THAT CAN DEFEAT THE MOST
DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN THE
HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
>> WHY DO YOU THINK THE
SECRETARY IS STILL TALKING ABOUT
2016?
>> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
ASK HER.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS HILLY

DOESN'T WANT TO RUN FOR
PRESIDENT, BUT SHE WOULDN'T MIND
BEING PRESIDENT.
AND NOW SHE GOES AND SAYS THIS
ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS.
MY POINT IS, IF IT DOESN'T
EVEN -- IF THAT'S NOT -- EVEN IN
APRIL, IF THIS TURNS OUT TO BE
THAT EVERYBODY TALKS
ABOUT BUT NEVER HAPPENS A
BROKERED CONVENTION IS IT
POSSIBLE, JARRETT, I WANT ALL OF
YOUR OPINIONS ON THIS, THAT
HILLARY CLINTON IS LOOKING AT
THAT OR THAT HILLARY CLINTON'S
NAME WL E AN
MICHELLE OBAMA'S?
THE DEMOCRATS I THINK DREAM
CA
>> TNK IS UP LIKELY WE'LL
HAVE A BROKERED CANDIDATE, BUT
CERTAINLY HILLARS N
PARTICULARLY BECAUSE SHE'S A
LIKABILITY EXPE D CLINTON WOULD
BE THE NAME BECAUSE WE SAW THAT
MOVIE FOUR YEARS AGO.
BUT I THINK IN THE CRAZINESS
THAT THAT WOULD BE, I SUSPECT,
YOU KNOW, YOUR OR MY NAME MIGHT
COME UP.
I THOUGH MY SUPPORT BEHIND YOU.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO THE
BROKERED CONVENTION THEN THE AT
NOVEMBER.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER
IT'S HILLARY CLINTON OR MICHELLE
OBAMA I THINK THOSE ARE VERY
UNLIKELY.
>> REALLY?

>> I THINK THAT VERY UNLIKELY.
WITH THAT SAID, I THINK THAT THE
BIGGER ISSUE FOR A BROKERED
CONVENTION SPEAKS TO THE LACK OF
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND VOTERS
HAVING THE TIME TO SURROUND AND
UNITE BEHIND ONE NOMINEE WHICH
HAPPENED BACK IN 2016.

SENATOR SANDERS STAYED ON BOARD
UNTIL JUNE.
AND BY THE TIME THE CONVENTION
CAME, IT WAS STILL VERY
CONTENTIOUS CONVENTION.
THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH HEALING
TIME FOR SUPPORTERS ON BOTH
SIDES TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH
WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO WORK
THROUGH AND I THINK WE SAW THA N
NOVEMBER.
>> WE HAVE LESS THAN A MINUTE.
I WANT TO GET YOUR OPINION ON
THIS.
WHOEVER WINS IN NOVEMBER THE
OTHER HALF, YOU KNOW, HALF OF
THE COUNTRY OR AT LEAST TENS OF
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE GOING
TO THINK THAT THE ENEMY WON.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE LIVED THROUGH A
DIVIDED COUNTRY IN WAYS I HAVE
NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
THE LAST FOUR YEARS ACTUALLY D
WHAT HAPPENS AFTER NOVEMBER?
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE WILL MOVE
TO BRING THE COUNTRY TOGETHER OR
ARE WE GOING TO BE HEADING DOWN
A VERY DANGEROUS AND DARK
TURE>> I THINK PEOPLE UNDERESTI
HOW DIVIDED WE HAVE BEEN.
WE HAD A CIVIL WAR AGAINST EACH
OTHER, BSTEVD.
DO FT'S MORE
POLARIZED NOW AND THE NEXT
PRESIDENT HAS TO TAKE SOME STEPS
TO HEAL THE WOUNDS THEY CAN.
>> WE'RE DIVIDED WITHIN THE
SUBGROUPS AND IF YOU'RE NOT A
TRUMP GUY, YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN
YOU'RE BAD, EVIL.
IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT, YOU'RE NOT
DOWN WITH BERNIE, YOU'RE ARPIS L
FACTIONS.
>> I AGREE.
I THINKHAT-T
CLEAR WE ARE DEEPLY DIVIDED BUT
WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO
ESSENTIALLY IS ACROSS PARTY
LINES AND EVEN WITHIN THE
FACTIONS WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY, WE ALL WANT TO MOVE
TOWARDS THIS VISION OF AMERICA
THAT IS FAIR AND IS EQUITABLE
ANLL
OPPORTUNITY.
WIN OR LOSE, NO MATTER WHAT
HAPPENS WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS THAT
VISION.
>> WE HAVE TO END THREAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US
TODAY.
YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS TERRIFIC.
>> THANK YOU.
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