METROFOCUS: JANUARY 24, 2020

In just over a week, Democrats will get the first opportunity to have their say. But as The New York Times breaks with tradition and endorses two presidential candidates, will the double endorsement make a difference? As the president boasts about the great economy, will it be enough to get him a second term? And could a brokered convention put Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama in the race?

Aired on January 24, 2020. 

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> TONIGHT ELECTION 2020, A 'METROFOCUS' FOCUS.

VOTERS AND THEIR VOICE.

IN JUST OVER A WEEK, DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR SAY.

WHILE AHEAD OF THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC CONTEST 'THE NEW YORK TIMES' BREAKS WITH TRADITION AND ENDORSES TWO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES.

WILL THE DOUBLE ENDORSEMENT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

BERNIE SANDERS ONE OF THE FRONT-RUNNERS ACCORDING TO RECENT POLLS COMES UNDER FIRE FROM HIS 2016 RIVAL, REOPENING OLD WOUNDS.

AND PRESIDENT TRUMP BOASTS ABOUT A BOOMING U.S. ECONOMY BUT WILL THAT BE ENOUGH TO SECURE HIM A SECOND TERM?

PLUS COULD A BROKERED CONVENTION PUT HILLARY CLINTON OR MICHELLE OBAMA IN THE RACE?

A SPECIAL 'METROFOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

'METROFOCUS' IS MADE POSSIBLE BY -- JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ ROSALIND P. WALTER BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG AND BY --

GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO ELECTION 2020 A ETFOS'CU ROMAN.

TONIGHT WE CONCLUDE OUR SERIES ON THE 2020 ELECTION WITH A FOCUS ON THE VOTERS AND THEIR VOICE.

WE ARE OVER A WEEK AWAY FROM THE IOWA CAUCUSES WHERE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS WILL HAVE THEIR SAY IN WHO WILL ULTIMATELY BE THE CANDIDATE TO TAKE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP IN NOVEMBER.

AFTER A YEAR OF NONSTOP CAMPAIGNING IT COME DOWN TO THIS, THE VOTERS.

IT WILL START WITH IOWA AND MOVE ON TO NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH CAROLINA LATER IN FEBRUARY.

BUT THIS YEAR, THE NOMINATION MAY VERY WELL BE DECIDED IN APRIL.

WHEN THE PRIMARIES WILL COME TO A HANDFUL OF STATES INCLUDING NEW YORK.

BUT WHAT IF THERE'S NO PRESUMED NOMINEE EVEN BY THEN?

COULD WE ACTUALLY SEE A BROKERED DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION WHERE OTHER NAMES MAY EMERGE, NAMES SUCH AS HILLARY CLINTON OR MICHELLE OBAMA?

AND REGARDLESS OF WHO WINS THE NOMINATION OR WHO WINS THE PRESIDENCY, WHAT WILL THE COUNTRY LOOK LIKE AFTER NOVEMBER?

WILL IT MANAGE TO COME TOGETHER OR WILL IT BE DIVIDED EVEN FURTHER?

THAT'S OUR FOCUS TONIGHT AND HERE TO BREAK IT ALL DOWN FOR US ARE NAILAH AMARU, J.C. POLANCO.

WELCOME BACK.

A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

SO LET'S START HERE AT HOME WITH A 'NEW YORK TIMES' DOUBLE ENDORSEMENT OF SENATORS WARREN AND KLOBUCHAR.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT AND IS IT GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO IOWA CAUCUS VOTERS OR TO VOTERS BEYOND --

I DON'T THINK ENDORSEMENTS MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT'S A PERSON OR A NEWSPAPER EXCEPT FOR A U DELIVERS TROOPS ON THE GROUND OR THE NRA.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE IT WOULD MAKE IN EITHER CASE.

THE FACT THEY SPLIT THEIR VOTE IS INTERESTING AND PROBABLY LIMITS THEIR ABILITY TO HAVE ANY IMPACT AT ALL.

THE CENTRAL DECISION I THINK A LOT OF DEMOCRATS FACE -- I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE DECIDING BETWEEN WARREN AND SANDERS BUT IT'S THE QUESTION OF WHAT TO EXTENT CAN WE PHHANGE AND STILL GET SOMEONE ELECTED?

AND BY SPLITTING THE VOTE BETWEEN KLOBUCHAR AND LEFT WING CANDIDATE WARREN THETFF SOMEONE OUT WHAT TO DO.

IT ALMOST GOT AS MUCH ATTENTION AS THE ENDORSEMENT BUT THE SELFIE THAT JOE BIDEN TOOK WITH THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN WORKER WHO IN THE DOCUMENTARY THAT 'THE NEW YORK TIMES' ITSELF WAS SHOOTING SAID I LOVE YOU, JOE, HEANE DEN SAYS TE.

IT KIND OF PLAYS TO THE STEREOTYPE OF LUNCH BUCKET JOE VERSUS THE ELITES.

DOES IT SAY ANYTHING REALLY?

I THINK TWO JARRETT'S POINTS.

AND PEOPLE ARE GETTING -- YOU KNOW, THEIR NEWS INFORMATION FROM OTHER OUTLETS SO THE WEIGHT OF 'THE NEW YORK TIMES' ENDORSEMENT MAY NOT CARRY AS MUCH SWAY AS IT USED TO HAVE.

DEINE D OF THEESIDE DAY, THE VOTERS ARE THE BEST ENDORSEMENT AND SO YOU KNOW WHILE CANDIDATES WHO RECEIVE ENDORSEMENTS WILL MAKE THE MOST OUT OF IT, AT THE END OF THE DAY IT COMES DOWN TO WHO ARE THE VOTERS GOINGSUPPORT?

NOTHING IS LIKE HAVING 'THE NEW YORK TIMES' ENDORSEMENT.

HISTORICALLY YOU HAVE THE ENDORSEMENT THAT'S A BIG DEAL AND, YOU'RE RIGHT, JARRETT, IT MEANS LESS AND LESS.

WE SAW HOW THE 'NEW YORK TIMES' LETITIA JAMES, SHE WINS THE PRIMARY AND THEN WINS THE GENERAL ELECTION.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LESS CONSISTENT AND LESS VICTORIOUS WITH THE ENDORSEMENTS THAN I HAVE BEEN WITH MY PREDICTIONS.

BUT IT GIVES YOU GRAVITAS, THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A CANDIDATE TO DONATE TO.

I THINK SPLITTING THE ENDORSEMENT AT THE NEW YORK TIMES EDGING THEIR BINSTS AND ENDORSEMENT AND I THINK THEY DID THE RIGHT THING -- AT LEAST CONSIDERING THE TWO FEMALES TO MAKE HISTORY IN THE ELECTION OF THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT.

THEN SOMEONE REALIZES THAT IN ORDER TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP IN E YOU NEED TO GET THE VOTERS IN THE MIDWEST AND KLOBUCHAR CAN DO THAT WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOW.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE FTWEREN AND THE SANDERS CAMPAIGNS.

IT'S TAMPED DOWN, DEFUSED A LITTLE BIT.

BUT IF YOU FOLLOW SOCIAL MEDIA, VOTERS HAVE AGAINST CNN AND MSNBC.

YOU READ THE TWEET IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS TALKING ABOUT FAKE NEWS.

THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE MEDIA AND THE TWO PROGRESSIVE NEWS NETWORKS INTI A TRYING TO TORPEDO THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN.

IS THAT TRUE AND IF SO WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT?

I DON'T WATCH THEIRCAUSI ME WATCHING PBS.

OF COURSE.

IT'S IN THE CONTRACT.

SOME OF THE CRITICISM IS HYPERBOLIC BUT I THINK THE CHARGE STICKS.

THERE'S A TREMENDOUS CENTRIST BIAS IN A LOT OF THE COVERAGE OF THE DEMOCARU SRS -- I THINK MORE SANDERS THAN WARREN.

I THINK THERE'S AN ARCHNESS TO HOW THEY'RE COVERED.

SOMETIMES IT'S SUBTLE, SOMETIMES IT'S MORE DIRECT AND YOU KNOW, ACCEPTING THEACWARREN'S VERSION OF THE TRUTH WAS CORRECT AND SANDERS WAS NOT.

ONE, I THINK SANDERS AND WARREN REPRESENTS A CHANGE THAT CAN BE THREATENING TO THE PEOPLE WHO CONTROL THE NETWORKS AND IT TRICKLES DOWN AND THE REPORTERS AND THE EDITORS LEAN DEMOCRATIC AND THEY WANT TO SEE A DEMOCRATIC VICTORY AND THEIR SKEPTICISM OF WARREN AND SANDERS IS A BELIEF THAT THE CENTRIST NEEDS TO RUN AND WIN.

THE DNC TRIED TO TORPEDO THE SANDERS CAMPAIGN IN 2016 AND THEY IT WASN'T JUST THEIR DOING, AND THEY TRIED TO HELP.

YOU SAID, NO, I DON'T THEY'RE DOING IT AGAIN.

THIS IS HOW THE DNC IS TORPEDOING, THROUGH THEIR PARTNERS AT THE MEDIA YA LIKE JEFF ZUCKER.

THEY'RE LIKE DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTERS.

YOU HEAR THED GGYOU HEAR SET-UP.

AND IT'S ALMOST AS IF -- IF YOU CAN EASILY -- THE VOTERS ARE JUST AS RABID IN THEIR BELIEF THAT THE SYSTEM IS AGAINST THEM.

YOU HEAR THE RHETORIC IT'S IDENTICAL TO PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS, BERNIE SANDERS NOT A DEMOCRATHE A MEMBER OF THE PARTY.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE DEMOCRATS INCLUDING HILLARY CLINTON THAT BLAME BERNIE SANDERS FOR THEIR LOSS.

HE DID A NUMBER ON DEMOCRATS ESPECIIG WH LOST MIC HILLARY CLINTON.

PEOPLE WHO ARE TRUE DEMOCRATS, REGISTERED DEMOCRATS WHO FOUGHT FOR THE PARTY FOR THEIR WHOLE LIVES WHO SEES THEAL MEDICAID LIKE HEALTH CARE INSURANCE AND SEES HIM LOSING IN NOVEMBER SO PEOPLE ARE ANGRY ABOUT IT.

ARE THE -- IS THE DEMOCRATIC ESTABLISHN'T AFRAID OF A BERNIE NOMINATION?

I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK YOU KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT A CRITIQUE AGAINST SANDERS IS NOT RIGGING THE ELECTION AS HIS SUPPORTERS WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERY CANDIDATE OFFERS THEIR LEADERSHIP TO BE THE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE BEING WILLING TO WITHSTAND VALID CRITIQUES OF THEIR CAMPAIGN.

AND SO I THINK THAT THE HERO IS SANDERS AND VILLAIN IS MEDIA IS A REALLY SIMPLIFIED NARRATIVE OF HOW COMPLICATED THE PRIMARY PROCESS CAN BE.

BUT ALSO TO BE WILLING TO ANSWE, NOT NECESSARILY SAY IT'S RIGGED.

YOU KNOW, LAST TIME WE BARELY -- WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TIME BUT WE BARELY TOUCHED ON THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ALREADYMP HIS PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT THERE WITH IT.

AND HE RECENTLY SPOKE AT THE DAVOS CONFERENCE IN EUROPE WHERE HE FOCUSED ON THE ECONOMIC ACHIEVEMENTS WHICH GIVES CREDIT FOR AND OF COURSEOOME BECAUSE IF HE FAILED WE WOULD GIVE HIM THE BLAME.

LET ME GIVE A BRIEF LIST OF SOME OF THE ONES THEY TALK ABOUT THE MOST.

ALMOST 4 MILLION JOBS HAVE BEEN CRIN ELECTION.

MORE THAN 400,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS HAVE BEEN CREATED.

NEW UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS HAVE HIT A 49 YEAR LOW. HIT -- AFRICAN-AMERICAN, UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS HAVE DROPPED TO THE LOWEST RATES EVER RECORDED FOR EACH OF THE GROUPS.

WE MENTIONED THAT BRIEFLY LAST TIME.

WOMEN'S UNEMPLOYMENT RATES HAVE REACHED THE LOWEST RATES IN 65 YEARS AND THE STOCK MARKET REACHING THE HIGHEST RATES.

THEY HAVE NOT REACTED OR RESPONDED TO THE NUMBERS AND THE CLAIM THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS HA HAS DOING.

HOW ARE THEY -- HOW SHOULD THEY RESPOND AND WHAT ARE THE ISSUES -- THE WINNING ISSUES THEY HAVE TO BRING TO THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER?

UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE DEMOCRATS THIS TIME AROUND, WE HAVE CULTURALLY CREDITED THE PRESIDENT FOR NATIONAL CC IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.

WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA TOOK OVER, WE SAW THE ECONOMY IMPROVE, THE WHOLE COUNTRY SAID LOOK, PRESIDENTO C THE WST ECONOMY SIE DEPRESSION.

WE HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO THE FACT THAT LOWERING THE TAX -- THE CORPORATE TAX RATE WAS SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD TAKE CREDIT FOR.

THE STOCK MARKET IS BOOMING T L RECORD IN THE COUNTRY.

WE GIVE THE CREDIT TO THE SITTING PRESIDENT AND THE DEREGULATION HAS HELPED THEM A GREAT DEAL.

YES, UNEMPLOYMENT IS LOW, LOWEST EVER, BUT VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE I'M GOING TO DO WHTH DEMOCRATS CONCERNED ABOUT.

YOU HAVE CANDIDATES SAYING WE'LL TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE, INCREASE YOUR TAXES.

THAT'S GOING TO SCARE THE INDEPENDENT VOTERS THAT WILL MAKE THE DECISION OF WHO WILL WIN THE PRESIDENC YE THE -- HOWE DEMOCRATS RESPOND TO THE NUMBERS AND WHAT ARE THE ISSUES?

WHAT ARE THE CONCRETE WINNING ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE TO BEGIN TO PUT OUT THERE TO WIN IN NOVEMBER?

SO THE CANDIDATES NEED TO ESSENTIALLY MAKE THE CASE ON WHY THEY'RE THE ONES B AND TO THE POINT -- THE STRENGTH OF THE ECONOMY IS DEFINITELY GOING TO PLAY TO TRUMP'S FAVORGE RV CREDIT.

THE NARRATIVE IS OUT THERE HE'S TAKING CREDIT FOR IT AND THE CYCLES OF THE ECONOMY WORKED OUT IN HIS FAVOR.

MAKE THE CASE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO CAN BEAT TRUMP AND ALSO, RECLAIM THE POWER OF WHY THEY CAN ALSO STRENGTHEN THE ECONOMY.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, INCOME INEQUALITY, WEALTH DISPARITIES, CRIMINALCERE ALL IS ISSUES, GUN, REFORM, CLIMATE CHANGE, CLIMATE CHANGE --

ARE THESE WINNING ISSUES?

SOME DON'T POLL WELL.

IT DEPENDS ON THE BASE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND ALSO THE BASE THAT CAN CHANGE DEPENDING ON VOTER TURNOUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE GENERAL ELECTION.

JARRETT, THE DEMOCRATS DIDN'T WIN THE HOUSE, DIDN'T TAKE BACK THE HOUSE IN 2018 BY TALKING ABOUT IMPEACHMENT.

THEY BASICALLY DID IT IN LOCAL AREAS BY TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE, ACTUALLY, LY WT WINNING ISSUES THAT THESE DEMOCRATS -- WHOEVER WINS HAS TO BRING TO THE VOTERS IN ORDER TO GET THEIR VOTE?

IT STRIKES ME THAT WHEN DONALD TRUMP WAS ELECTED IN 2016, YOU HAD -- WE HAD ENJOYED A LONG PERIOD OF SLOW, BUT STEADY ECONOMIC GROWTH.

INCREASING GDP AND YET TRUMP W ABLE TO MAKE A SUCCESSFUL ECONOMICAL/CASE AND THE DEMOCRATS CAN MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENTS.

WHILE MANY OF THE NUMBERS DO LOOK GREAT AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS CLOSELY TIED TO THE ANXIETIES THAT TRUMP TAPPED INT LOOK, WE KNOW THE ECONOMY IS IMPROVING.

YOU KNOW, YOUR SON HAS A JOB NOW.

YOUR DAUGHTER COMING OUT OF SCHOOL HAS A GIG BUT ARE THEY MAKING ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES?

ARE THEY STILL LIVING AT HOME, PARENT, IS YOUR MEDICAL CARE ESERE FOR YOU?

DEMOCRATS HAVE TIME TO ARTICULATE THE MESSAGE.

DESPITE THESE WINNING BOOMING ECONOMIC NUMBERS AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN CAMPAIGNING ON IT FOR REALLY THREE YEARS NOW.

OR AT LEAST FOR A YEAR.

YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE NATIONAL THE TOP DEMOCRATIC FRONT-RUNNERS BEATING TRUMP.

RIGHT.

ALL OF THEM.

I GUARANTEE YOU ONE THING ON THE PROGRAM.

WHOEVER THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS WILL WINAR V MILLIONS OF VOTES BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

MANY OF THE DEMOCRATS WILL COME OUT IN LARGERS THEERCATION OF HOW THIS YEAR I GOING TO LOOK, YOU'LL SEE THE INCREDIBLE TURNOUT BUT THEY'LL COME OUT IN THE STATES THAT THEY CONTINUE TO WIN.

NEW YORK, CALIFORNIA, ILLINOIS.

SO YOU'LL HAVE MILLIONS OF MORE PEOPLE BUT WILL THEY TRUMP IN S?

I DON'T SEE THESE DEMOCRATS THAT ARE FRONT-RUNNERS BEING ABLE TO TAP INTO THE CENTR MODATVOOUTE BE.

YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO WIN THE THREE STATES IF YOU ELECT SOMEONE LIBERAL ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

BUT I GUESS J.C. IS ASSUMING THEY'RE RIGHT, RIGHT FOR THE POPULAR VOTE.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE WRONG IN 2016.

SOME PEOPLE SAY YOU HAVE TO ADD FIVE TO SEVEN POINTS IN THE TRUMP NUMBERS.

SO DO YOU TRUST THE POLLS?

I DON'T.

I DON'T TRUST THEM, THEY'RE A SNAPSHOT, BUT A SNAPSHOT WITH LIMITED INFORMATION.

I WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN THE APPROVAL TRUMP WHICH HAVE MORE -- THEY HAVE A BETTER INDICATION OF WHERE THE REAL SUPPORT IS ON THE GROUND.

AND ALSO, I THINK IN TERMS OF THE POLLING IN WHICH -- AND WHAT'S IT'S SHOWING, IT SHOWS THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING SOMETHING RIGHTMEAGG RGIZIT GOE, NEWTON'S THIRD LAW.

YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY ACTION THAT'S AN OPPOSITE AND DIFFERENT REACTION.

WHILE THE BASE IS REORNIWE TEMS SHOWED UP IN 2016 THAT NOBODY AND I USE THAT IN QUOTES SAW COMING BUT WAS VERY REAL AND ESSENTIALLY TURNEDRUO RPRESIDENT.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I ALWAYS TAKE POLLS WITH GRAIN OF SUPP OLHE LL VO ALGORITHM.

NOT WHO ANSWERED THE PHONE AND SAID TRUMP OR CLINTON OR SANDERS.

THAT SURPRISED PEOPLE IN 2016.

THAT'S THE BIG X-FACTOR THIS YEAR.

IT'S WAY TOO EARLY TO THINK ABOUT THE NATIONAL POLLS.

THEY MIGHT SHOW MOVEMENT POLL TO POLL BUT IN THE SNAPSHOT I WOULD TOSS IT OUT.

LAST TIME YOU WERE HERE, J.C.

MENTIONED HE DIDN'T THINK THAT THE IOWA CAUCUS -- WHOEVER WINS IT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DECISIVE.

WHAT PRIMARY OR SET OF PRIMARIES ARE DECISIVE?

I THINK SOUTH CAROLINA IS CRITICAL BECAUSE THAT'S DIVERSE, LARGE STATE.

DESPITE THEIR INORDINATE IMPORTANCE IN OUR PROCESS, NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IOWA ARE PROBABLY THE WEIRDEST STATES TO BASE THE WHOLE SYSTEM ON AND THEN NEVADA.

THEY'RE THE FASTEST GROWING, DIVERSIFYING.

THOSE ARE TWO MOMENTS.

YOU'RE NODDING A LOT.

YEAH, I SHARE FRUSTRATION IN TERMS OF WHY NEW HAMPSHIRE AND IOWA SHARE SUCH A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF POWER IN TERMS OF MEDIA LEVERAGING.

THAT PART THAT CONTROLS PRESCAM.

BUT ALSO SOUTH CAROLINA BECAUSE OF THE BLACK ELECTORATE WHICH IS A KEY CORE CONSTITUENCY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND NEVADA IS FASTLY BECOMING, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE PEOPLEE,KNOW, MOVING I.

I THINK THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE CHANGING AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ON BOTH SIDES O AISLE.

WITH THE CHANGING ELECTORATE AND MILLENNIALS ARE THE OFFICIAL LARGEST VOTING BLOC.

WHETHER THEY TURN OUT TO VOTE IS A NEW QUESTION, BUT IT'S A CYCLE THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY PART OF THE CONVERSATION C T16.

J.C., IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE A PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE BY THE SPRING, BY APRIL, AND THAT NEW YORK -- THAT'S WHEN WE VOTE, THAT WE MAY BE THE QUEEN OR KINGMAKERS THIS TIME AROUND?

THAT WOULD BE EXCITING.

IOEE OTHER STATES GET THE ATTENTION, YOU TALKED ABOUT NEW HAMPSHIRE BUT WHY NOT NEW YORK?

CONSIDERING THAT YOU HAVE SO MANY OF THE CANDIDATES -- THEY'RE WITHIN A COUPLE OF POINTS OF EACH OTHERIKE MBER OF A BILLION DOLLARS AND SHOOTING UP TO 9% OR 10% IN SOME OF THESE.

WE DON W WILL HAPPEN AFTER SUPER TUESDAY AND THEY CAN BE VERY CLOSE.

AS PEOPLE ARE WATCHING PBS AND LISTENING TO ME, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN WIN IS BY ELECTING A CENTRIST MAYBE JUST MAYBE YOU HAVE A BIDEN/BLOOMBERG PRIMARY COMING TO NEW YORK AND WHO KNOWS MILO AND JOE BIDEN W YORK A PRIMARY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE --

THAT'S INTERESTING.

PBS, WE'LL BE BACK FOR SURE.

YOU KNOW, IN A RECENT DOCUMENTARY IN HULU, I BELIEVE HILLARY CLINTON SAID THIS ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS. WN CONES YEARS.

HE HAD ONE SENATOR SUPPORT HIM.

NOBODY LIKES HIM, NOBODY WANTS TO WORKITHIM. NOTHING DONE.

HE WAS A CAREER POLITICIAN.

IT'S ALL JUST BALONEY AND I FEEL SO BAD PEOPLE GET SUCKED INTO IT.

TO WHICH BERNIE SANDERS RESPONDED THIS WE HAVE A CLIP, LET'S HEAR IT.

I'LL --

WHAT DO YOU THINEC

LOOK, LOOK, SECRETARY CLINTON IS ENTITLED TO HER POINT OF VIEW.

MY JOB TODAY IS TO FOCUS ON THE IMPEACHMENMY J PUT TOGETHER A TEAM THAT CAN DEFEAT THE MOST DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE SECRETARY IS STILL TALKING ABOUT 2016?

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

ASK HER.

ONE OF THE THINGS HILLY DOESN'T WANT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, BUT SHE WOULDN'T MIND BEING PRESIDENT.

AND NOW SHE GOES AND SAYS THIS ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS.

MY POINT IS, IF IT DOESN'T EVEN -- IF THAT'S NOT -- EVEN IN APRIL, IF THIS TURNS OUT TO BE THAT EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT BUT NEVER HAPPENS A BROKERED CONVENTION IS IT POSSIBLE, JARRETT, I WANT ALL OF YOUR OPINIONS ON THIS, THAT HILLARY CLINTON IS LOOKING AT THAT OR THAT HILLARY CLINTON'S NAME WL E AN MICHELLE OBAMA'S?

THE DEMOCRATS I THINK DREAM CA

TNK IS UP LIKELY WE'LL HAVE A BROKERED CANDIDATE, BUT CERTAINLY HILLARS N PARTICULARLY BECAUSE SHE'S A LIKABILITY EXPE D CLINTON WOULD BE THE NAME BECAUSE WE SAW THAT MOVIE FOUR YEARS AGO.

BUT I THINK IN THE CRAZINESS THAT THAT WOULD BE, I SUSPECT, YOU KNOW, YOUR OR MY NAME MIGHT COME UP.

I THOUGH MY SUPPORT BEHIND YOU.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO THE BROKERED CONVENTION THEN THE AT NOVEMBER.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S HILLARY CLINTON OR MICHELLE OBAMA I THINK THOSE ARE VERY UNLIKELY.

REALLY?

I THINK THAT VERY UNLIKELY.

WITH THAT SAID, I THINK THAT THE BIGGER ISSUE FOR A BROKERED CONVENTION SPEAKS TO THE LACK OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND VOTERS HAVING THE TIME TO SURROUND AND UNITE BEHIND ONE NOMINEE WHICH HAPPENED BACK IN 2016.

SENATOR SANDERS STAYED ON BOARD UNTIL JUNE.

AND BY THE TIME THE CONVENTION CAME, IT WAS STILL VERY CONTENTIOUS CONVENTION.

THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH HEALING TIME FOR SUPPORTERS ON BOTH SIDES TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO WORK THROUGH AND I THINK WE SAW THA N NOVEMBER.

WE HAVE LESS THAN A MINUTE.

I WANT TO GET YOUR OPINION ON THIS.

WHOEVER WINS IN NOVEMBER THE OTHER HALF, YOU KNOW, HALF OF THE COUNTRY OR AT LEAST TENS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE GOING TO THINK THAT THE ENEMY WON.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE LIVED THROUGH A DIVIDED COUNTRY IN WAYS I HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

THE LAST FOUR YEARS ACTUALLY D WHAT HAPPENS AFTER NOVEMBER?

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE WILL MOVE TO BRING THE COUNTRY TOGETHER OR ARE WE GOING TO BE HEADING DOWN A VERY DANGEROUS AND DARK TURE

I THINK PEOPLE UNDERESTI HOW DIVIDED WE HAVE BEEN.

WE HAD A CIVIL WAR AGAINST EACH OTHER, BSTEVD.

DO FT'S MORE POLARIZED NOW AND THE NEXT PRESIDENT HAS TO TAKE SOME STEPS TO HEAL THE WOUNDS THEY CAN.

WE'RE DIVIDED WITHIN THE SUBGROUPS AND IF YOU'RE NOT A TRUMP GUY, YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN YOU'RE BAD, EVIL.

IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT, YOU'RE NOT DOWN WITH BERNIE, YOU'RE ARPIS L FACTIONS.

I AGREE.

I THINKHAT-T CLEAR WE ARE DEEPLY DIVIDED BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO ESSENTIALLY IS ACROSS PARTY LINES AND EVEN WITHIN THE FACTIONS WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WE ALL WANT TO MOVE TOWARDS THIS VISION OF AMERICA THAT IS FAIR AND IS EQUITABLE ANLL OPPORTUNITY.

WIN OR LOSE, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS THAT VISION.

WE HAVE TO END THREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.

YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS TERRIFIC.

THANK YOU.

> WELL, THAT CONCLUDES OUR FOUR PART SERIES ON THE 2020 ELECTION.

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HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

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