VICTORY OVER CANCER

Encore: November 15, 2019

Actress Marilu Henner will share her uplifting story about how she helped her husband beat cancer.

Aired on November 15, 2019.

TRANSCRIPT

AN ACTRESS BEST KNOWN FOR HER CAREER, IN PARTICULAR WAS MANY OF US IS HER HIT ON TAXI.

ALSO HER BEST SELLING HEALTH AND FITNESS BOOKS.

SHE ALSO IS ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE IN THE WORLD KNOWN TO HAVE HIGHLY SUPERIOR AUTOBIO GRAPHICAL MEMORY.

AND THE MEMORIES OF HOW SHE AND HER HUSBAND TODAY TOGETHER IN THE FACE OF CANCER AND TRIUMPHED.

HER NEW BOOK IS CALLED CHANGING NORMAL, HOW I HELPED MY HUSBAND BEAT CANCER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU FOR SO MANY REASONS.

LET'S SET THE STAGE FOR THIS.

YOU HAD KNOWN EACH OTHER YEARS BEFORE?

YEAH.

AROUND 2003 YOU RECONNECTED, RIGHT?

WE KNEW EACH OTHER IN COLLEGE, WE RAN INTO EACH OTHER IN A COURTHOUSE AFTER I LEFT SCHOOL TO BECOME A PROFESSIONAL ACT ACTRESS.

EIGHT YEARS LATER WE RAN INTO EACH OTHER.

AND THEY HAD NOT SEEN EACH NOER DO YEARS.

AND WE WERE SAYING I LOVE YOU, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF OUR LIVES TOGETHER, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TO IS A MARVELOUS STORYBOOK.

THE THUNDER BOLT STRIKES YOU BOTH, AND ANOTHER HIT YOU WHAT IS THAT.

TWO MONTHS IN, I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH ADVANCED STAGE BLADDER CANCER.

I HAD BEEN SYMPTOMATIC FOR TWO YEARS BUT GOING TO A VERY CONVENTIONAL DOCTOR ROUTE.

I WENT TO MY UROLOGIST AND HE KEPT INCORRECTLY DIAGNOSING ME.

I WENT SOMEONE NEW, AND THEY DIAGNOSED THE CANCER AND I ALSO HAD A NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH MARY LOU.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN FOR US THE TITLE HERE.

CHANGING NORMAL, AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS.

TITLES ARE ALWAYS FASCINATING AND COMPELLING WHEN YOU TRY GET A SENSE OF WHAT THEY MEAN.

I ALWAYS SAY YOU KNOW IF YOU THINK OF YOUR BODY AS A FIELD OF SOIL AND A WEED SPROUTS, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST CUT IT OUT AND KEEP DOING WHATEVER YOU WERE DOING AND GETTING MORE WEEDS.

LOVINGLY TENDING TO IT, PUTTING IN DIFFERENT FERTILIZER.

CHANGING THE NORMAL OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING IF YOU APT NEW RESULT INTO WHAT HAPPENED WAS THERE WAS SOMEONE IN HIS FAMILY THAT WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER AROUND THE SAME TIME.

THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU CHEMO AND SURGERY AND I SAID TO MICHAEL NO, SHE CAN'T GO BACK TO NORMAL, YOU TO CHANGE NORMAL OR YOU WILL END UP RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU WERE.

THAT IS WHERE THE TITLE OF THE BOOK CAME ABOUT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR LIFE AND THEN AT DIFFERENCES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, AND YOUR OBSERVATIONS, WHAT DID YO FIND ABOUT HOW YOU HAD BEEN LIVING YOUR LIFE WHEN YOU CAME TO REALIZE THAT YOU NEEDED TO GET CHANGED.

THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE BOOK, THE INTRO OF THE BOOK IS HOW I GOT CANCER, AND I FOUND OUT EARLY IN MY HEALTH JOURNEY AFTER I GOT DIAGNOSED.

AND IT GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW LIKE IT DID.

AND I FOUND TOXIC EXPOSURES, HEAVY METAL EXPOSURE, AND THIS HAD BEEN GOING ON MY WHOLE LIFE FROM CHILDHOOD.

FRAEN THAT EXAMINATION OF MY PAST, I REALIZED THEY NEEDED TO CHANGE MY FUTURE AND MY NORMAL.

CERTAINLY, YOU GET INVOLVED, MY FRIENDS HAVE CALLED ME FOR YEARS.

YOU GET INVOLVED NOW AND WITH ALL OF THE FOCUS YOU HAD RECENTLY ON HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, YOU NOW HAD LITERALLY IN YOUR HOME, SO WHAT CAN YOU BOTH DECIDE TO DO?

HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO FIGHT THIS, THAT CHANGED YOUR NORMAL.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE -- I KNEW I WANT TODAY TAKE MICHAEL TO MY DOCTORS, BUT I SAID LET'S GO SEE SOME OF THE MORE CONVENTIONAL TYPES OF DOCTORS AND WE WENT TO SEE THE NUMBER ONE BLADDER SPECIALEST, WE WENT TO SEE HIM AND IT WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF THE BOOK AND HE SAID THIS IS YOUR LUCKY DAY.

I HAVE A CANCELLATION ON WEDNESDAY AND HE TAKES OUT A DIE GA -- DIAGRAM.

HE SAYS I'M GOING TO MAKE A NEOBLADDER.

DON'T WORRY, WE'RE GOING TO RUN A SMALL HOSE UP HIS PENIS AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX JUST PUMP IT UP SIX TIMES, AND I SAID CAN WE HAVE THE SEVEN PUMP MODEL, AND HE SAID YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THE STEAK AND HIGHBALLS YOU WANT, AND WE SAID WELL, THERE YOU GO, MICHAEL SAID I'M NOTORG DON'T THINK YOU TO.

BUT LOOK AT THE BODY HOLISTICLY.

DON'T JUST ISOLATE IT.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MESSAGE HERE, YOU'RE NOT SAYING NEVER GO TO A TRADITIONAL DOCTOR.

NO, COMPLIMENT THE TYPICAL THERAPY, HE CHOSE NOT TO HAVE CHEMO AND RADIATION AND IT HE DIDN'T END UP NEEDING IT, AND HE WENT INTO REMISSION AND HE HAS BEEN IN REMISSION 12.5 YEARS ON BLADDER AND ALSO LUNG CANCER A FEW YEARS LATER.

A DOUBLE HEADER.

BUT I KNEW, I GOT INTO HEALTH BECAUSE MY PARENTS DIED YOUNG AND I FELT LIKE NO MATTER WHAT HE DECIDES TO DO, TRYING SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS CAN ONLY FORTIFY HIS IMMUNE SYSTEM.

YOU CHANGED YOUR NORMAL.

YEAH, I CHANGED IT BEFORE THE DIAGNOSIS I GOT WITH MARY LOU, AND SHE PRETTY FORCEFUL ABOUT HER LIFESTYLE AND THE MAKEOVER SHE WAS TRYING TO WORK ON ME, BUT THE YEAR WE FOUGHT THE CANCER FOR SIX MONTHS, I CHANGED MY NORMAL IN PROFOUND WAYS IN TERMS OF MY DIET AND THE WAY I DEALT WITH MY STRESS.

HAVING A LOVE OF MY LIFE IN MY LIFE AND HAVING SOMEONE TO LOVE ME, IT PROFOUNDLY CHANGED ME.

SINCE THEN BECAUSE CANCER IS A CHRONIC DISEASE, IF YOU CHANGE YOUR NORMAL, IF YOU HAVE DONE THINGS TO HELP CONVENTIONAL MEDICINE, YOU NEED TO STAY VIGILANT OR IT WILL COME BACK AND THIS IS, IN SOME WAYS --

IT'S NOT A ONE DISEASE APPROACH HERE.

YEAH, ESPECIALLY WITH TWO SEPARATE CANCERS AND I HAD TWO SEPARATE SPOTS TO DEAL WITH.

GLAD YOU'RE WELL, ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU, GOOD LUCK WITH THE BOOK.

THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

METROFOCUS IS SPONSORS BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH, SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III, THE SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM.

BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, AND BY --

Funders

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