METROFOCUS: NOVEMBER 15, 2019

Encore: November 15, 2019

We’ll examine the history of impeachment and the parallels to the present day proceedings unfolding on live television. We will share the details about a provocative new play at the Billie Holiday Theatre that tackles the ripple effects of America’s legacy of racism. We’ll show you why the Hamptons has become a battleground over Native American rights. Actress Marilu Henner will share her uplifting story about how she helped her husband beat cancer.

Aired on November 15, 2019.

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON 'METRO FOCUS.'

AS THE PRESIDENT FACES LIES OF OBSTRUCTION LYING, AND ABUSE, WE LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF IMPEACHMENT.

A PROVOCATIVE NEW PLAY TACKLES REPARATIONS AND THE RIPPLE EFFECTS OF AMERICA'S LEGACY OF RACISM.

THE HAMPTONS BECOME A BATTLEGROUND OVER NATIVE MARIJUANA RIGHTS AS WEALTH AND TRADITION PAYS OFF.

A UPLIFTING STORY ON HOW SHE HELPED HER HUSBAND BEAT CANCER.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS 'METROFOCUS' STARTS NOW.

THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

'METROFOCUS' IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH, SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III, THE SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM.

BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, AND BY --

> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO 'METROFOCUS.'

OBSTRUCTION, LIES, AND AN ABUSE OF POWER.

DEMOCRATS OPENED AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AGAINST DONALD TRUMP, AND IF THOSE ACCUSATIONS SOUND FAMILIAR, IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE.

FAIR NEARLY IDENTITY TO ALLEGATIONS THAT FUELLED AMERICA'S ONLY THREE PREVIOUS IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AGAINST A PREVIOUS PRESIDENT.

IMPEACHMENTS ARE RARE AND THAT IS PROBABLY THE REASON IT IS MISUNDERSTOOD.

NO PRESIDENT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM OFFICE AS PART OF OF THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS AND ONLY TWO HAVE BEEN FORMALLY IMPEACHED, AND NO, RICHARD NIXON WAS NOT ONE OF THEM.

WHAT IS THE HISTORICAL BASIS OF IMPEACHMENT?

JOINING ME NOW, NICOLE HAMMER, THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME.

I JUST MENTIONED NIXON BECAUSE HE IS IN THE MINDS OF AMERICANS AS ONE OF THE BIGGEST IMPEACHMENTS AND THAT IS NOT IT.

THE CASE AGAINST NIXON WAS SO AIRTIGHT BY THE END THAT HE HAD NO CHOINS IN MANY -- CHOICE IN MANY WAYS.

AND EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T GO THERE THE DIFFERENT STEPS FOR REMOVAL, BECAUSE HE BUGS OUT, AND THAT STICKS IN OUR MIND BECAUSE OF THE NATIONAL TRAUMA OF A MOMENT IN WHICH THE PRESIDENT LEAVES OFFICE BECAUSE OF HIS BAD ACTS.

LET'S GO TO WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON.

HOW DO THE CIRCUMSTANCES RELATE IN TERMS OF IMPEACHMENT.

UNWITH OF THE THINGS THAT THAT THE CLINTON IMPEACHMENT TEACHES US IS IT IS A VERY POLITICAL ACT.

NIXON HAD CHARGES THAT WERE REALLY ABOUT BREACHES OF POWER AND DEMOCRACY.

WITH THE CLINTON IMPEACHMENT, HE IS IMPEACHED.

THE CONGRESS VOTES FOR ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, IT MOVES TO A TRIAL IN THE SENATE, AND WE NEVER REALLY LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT PRESIDENT CLINTON LIED ABOUT AN AFFAIR.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS SMALLER.

IT IS A DESTINATION.

THAT IMPEACHMENT PROCESS IS SUPPORTED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

THEY ARE GOING IN THE SENATE, AND THAT WAS ANDREW JOHNSON THAT MAYBE SOME PEOPLE, PRESIDENTIAL NERDS AND HISTORIANS MAY REMEMBER, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T.

HE FALLS IN LINE WHERE?

SO HE BECOMES PRESIDENT FOLLOWING ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

HE WAS SOMEONE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T FEEL WAS FIT TO BE PRESIDENT.

HE DRANK A LOT.

HE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH DECORUM AND HE HAD A LOT OF POLITICAL ENMYS.

AND HE FINALLY CROSSES A LINE SAYING HE USED POWERS THAT THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT HAVE.

SO THEY IMPEACHMENT.

AND THEY ARE TRYING TO IMPEACHMENT AND THAT IS THE CLOSEST WE HAVE EVER GOT TON COMPLETING A FULL IMPEACHMENT AND REMOVAL.

WE SEE THAT THEY ARE BEING HELD IN THE HOUSE, THE DEBATE, THE CASES BEING MADE, WHAT HAPPENS THEN?

SO THEN YOU HAVE A ACTUAL TRIAL WHERE BOTH SIDES PRESENT THEIR CASE OF WRONG DOING BY THE PRESIDENT.

IT WAS PROCEEDED OVER IN THE CASE OF PRESIDENT CLINTON, BY THE CHIEF JUSTICE, AND IT IS DIFFERENT THAN IN NORMAL TRIALS.

YOU HAVE THE TRAPPINGS OF LAWYERS ARGUING BOTH SIDES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS VERY POLITICAL FIGURES THAT ARE MAKING THE DECISION IF IS NOT NECESSARILY A NEUTRAL JURY OF PEERS, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY OF THE SENATE TO VOTE THE PRESIDENT OUT OF OFFICE.

DOES STARTING THE IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS, IS THAT DANGEROUS?

IT CAN PAY A POLITICAL PRICE AND IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE PROCESS PROCEEDS IMPEACHMENT.

YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS PROCEEDING WITH THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS, BUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COME ALONG WITH THEM AND THEY AGREE WITH WHAT COMES ALONG BY THEM.

DEMOCRATS JUST SWEEP THOSE 1974 ELECTIONS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAW THEM IT WAS A VERY DIFFERENT STORY.

YOU HAVE THE STAR REPORT, YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THE IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS ARE GOING TO START AND NORMALLY THEY ARE EXPECTED TO PICK UP SEATING IN THE ELECTION AND INSTEAD DEMOCRATS PICK UP SEATS IN THE ELECTION.

THAT IS REALLY UNUSUAL.

WHY WAS THIS PROCESS PUT INTO OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT WAS THE THRESHOLD THAT THE FOUNDERS FELT WAS TOO FAR FOR SOMEONE AS THEY HAD TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE?

IT IS BASICALLY A SAFE GRAURD BUILD INTO THE CONSTITUTION.

WE'RE HAVING ELECTIONS EVERY FOUR YEARS FROM THE PRESIDENT, THAT WAS A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO WEIGH IN AND REMOVE PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT GOOD FITS, BUT WHAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE ELECTED INTO OFFICE, AND WHAT IF YOU FEND OUT THEY HAD BAD CHARACTER AND THEY'RE ABUSING THEIR TOWER, YOU COULD NOT MAKE THEM SIT THROUGH THE CORRUPTION.

YOU HAD TO HAVE A WAY TO REMOVE SOMEONE THAT REALLY WAS ABUSING IT AND THEY GOT TOO POWER HUNGRY AND THEY ARE CHECKING ALL OF THE CHECKS AND BALANCES.

AND THEY PUT IN PLACE SOMETHING CALLED IMPEACHMENT AND THEY DON'T LAY OUT A LIST OF PARTICULARS IN ORDER TO BE IMPEACHED, THEY SIMPLY SAY HIGH CRIMES AND DEMMISDEMEANORS.

I THINK THAT IS WHY ABUSE OF POWER IS SO CENTRAL TO THE CASES OF IMPEACHMENT THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

THAT THAT IS THE THING THAT CROSSES THE LINE AND LEADS TO THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A PRESIDENT SHOULD BE REMOVED WHICH IS A PRETTY DRAMATIC AND DISRUPTIVE ACT.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND GIVING US AN UNDERSTAND OING OF THE PROCEEDINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING PLAY OUT AND THE HISTORICAL NARRATIVE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

ABSOLUTELY.

A RECENTLY WIDOWED BOOK EDITOR HAS AN AFFAIR WITH A YOUNGER BLACK WRITER.

SOON AFTER THEIR DARK SECRETS ARE REVEALED.

THAT IS THE SET UP FOR REPARATIONS, A PLAY DRAWING RAVE REVIEWS AND NOW PART OF THE NEW WINDOWS FESTIVAL.

THE PLAY EXPLORES THE DYNAMIC OF RACE, CLASS, AND GENDER IN TODAY'S AMERICA PROMPTING THE AUDIENCE TO THINK ABOUT THE PRICE OF RACIAL INJUSTICE.

AND TALKING ABOUT THE PLAY, ONE OF THE STARS, LET'S START WITH THE TITLE AND THEN WHAT THE PLAY IS ABOUT.

BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT, YOU HEAR THE TITLE AND YOUR THOUGHT IS FINANCIAL RESTITUTION AND IT IS ABOUT SO MUCH MORE.

HOW DID YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE IT SO FRIENDS AND RELATIVES WHEN YOU DECIDED TO DO THIS?

OH, I SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.

I SAY COME IN WITH AN EXPECTATION AS WE ALL WILL ABOUT REPARATIONS, ABOUT LIKE YOU SAID FINANCIAL RESTITUTION, MAKING AMENDS, AND EXPECT THAT HALFWAY THROUGH THE FIRST ACT, THE EXPECTATIONS YOU HAD IT WILL BE FLIPPED.

AND I NEVER TRIED TO GIVE AWAY THAT.

BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT IT WOULD HURT SO MUCH.

THERE IS A LOT OF GREAT TWISTS THAT MAKE IT, LIKE YOU SAID ABOUT CLASS, ABOUT RACE, ABOUT GENDER.

AND LBGTQ.

THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE HIT NOT ON THE HEAD TOO MUCH, BUT JUST PERFECTLY PLACED TO MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT THE THINGS HAPPENING IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

WHAT HAS THE REACTION BEEN THAT YOU'RE SEEING FOR THE AUDIENCES AFTER THE PLAY IS PERFORMED?

FIRST, I LOVE THE BILLY HOLIDAY THEATER.

WE DID A STORY ON IT HERE IN FACT.

SO MUCH WONDERFUL AND HISTORICAL WORK WITH HISTORICAL ACTORS THERE.

YES, AND THE AUDIENCE IS INSTANT.

I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT FOR INTERMISSION TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES.

THEY'RE HAPPENING RIGHT THERE DURING THE SHOW AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF SHOW THAT YOU CAN LAUGH, AND YOU CAN CRY, OR YOU KNOW WHATEVER YOU'RE PROVOKED TO DO.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF THOUSAND WHERE THAT HAPPENS.

SO EVERY NIGHT WE'RE FINDING THAT SOME OF THE THEMES HITTING PEOPLE VERY HARD, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, AFTER I WALK OUT, AS WELL AS MY OTHER CAST MATES AND WE WALK OUT AFTER THE SHOW TO MEET THE AUDIENCE, WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT PEOPLE ARE BEING HEALED.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS.

THERE ARE SO MANY EXPERIENCES AND DIFFERENT ASPECTS WHETHER IT IS THROUGH PHYSICAL ABUSE, SEXUAL ABUSE, RACIAL INEQUALITY, DISENFRANCHISEMENT, THIS TRAUMA, WE DON'T SEE IT PRESENTED ON STAGE IN A WAY IN WHICH YOU SEE SOMEONE THAT REFLECTS YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE AND HOW THEY'RE DEALING WITH FORGIVENESS AND THAT TRAUMA.

SO MY CHARACTER, THIS YOUNG NOVELIST, WHO IS TRYING TO GET THIS CHARACTER AND THE JUSTICE THAT HE WANTS FOR BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA, HE IS STRUGGLING AND BATTLING WITH A LOT OF THOSE PARTICULAR THINGS.

AND WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE AFTERWARDS, THEY'RE HOLDING THEIR CHEST AND THEY'RE HOLDING THEIR HEARTS, AND THEY'RE SAYING THANK YOU.

THEY'RE SAYING THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PRESENTING THIS.

THANK YOU FOR THE PLAYWRIGHT, MY STORY WAS REFLECTED ON THAT STAGE AND I FEEL LIKE I CAN GO FORWARD, AND HELP AND HEAL FROM THIS.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR CORPORATE BUSINESS WORLD AND YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A VERY DIFFERENT BUSINESS THERE.

I WANT TO DO THAT.

WHAT DO FANS SAY WHEN YOU SAY GUESS WHAT I'M GOING TO DO NEXT.

I'M LUCKY TO HAVE VERY SUPPORTIVE FAMILY MEMBERS AND GREAT FANS TO DO IT.

I FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING IS ROOTED IN THERE, TOO.

LOVE AND FEAR, AND SOMETIMES YOU FEAR IF I GET OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR CAREER I WON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL STABILITY OR I WON'T FIND SUCCESS, AND THOSE ARE JUST ALL OF THE FEARS AND I CHOSE LOVE AT THE TIME AND I SAID I HAVE WIBEEN WORKING IN CORPORATE AMERICA 13 OR 14 HOURS A DAY, AND THAT IS WHAT I LOVE TO DO.

THEY CAN SEE IT IN MY EYES, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT, THAT I DID NOT SEE WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MY CORPORATE JOB.

THEY'RE LIKE YOU HAVE TO GO BE HAPPY.

I ONLY SAW THAT YOU GET TO THE BACK END AND YOU SAY TO YOURSELF YOU KNOW WHAT?

WHY DIDN'T I TRY THAT, WHY DIDN'T I TAKE A SHOT AT IT.

YEAH, YOU WILL FIND OUT.

LET ME ASK ONE BIG PICTURE QUESTION ABOUT THE PLAY.

IN LOOKING AT SORT OF THE MISSION STATEMENT, THE DESCRIPTION ABOUT THIS, AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, ONE OF THE LINES THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS THAT THE QUOTE THAT WAS AFRICAN-AMERICAN STORY IS THE VERY FOUNDATION OF THE AMERICAN STORY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT MEANS?

HONESTLY I THINK THAT QUOTATION IS FAR REACHING, AND IT IS PROFOUND IF CAN MEAN ANYTHING TO ANYONE.

BUT TO ME, WHAT I THINK IT IS SAYING IS THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT SURROUNDED THE AFRICANS BEING ENSLAVED AND BROUGHT TO AMERICA AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, AND THE 1600s, THE TRANSATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE, THE COUNTRY TRULY BEGAN WITH SLAVERY.

I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK --

SO INTERWOVEN THAT YOU CAN'T --

YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THE TWO.

YOUF CAN'T SEPARATE THE INDUSTRIES FROM THE COTTON, THE TEXTILES, THE BANKS, AND ALL OF THE INDUSTRY THAT CAME.

WE'RE LEARNING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THAT NOW.

COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES BUILT LITERALLY ON THE BACKS OF SLAVES.

IT IS A FLAY IT MAKES YOU THINK, IT MAKES YOU WANT TO TALK, AND THAT IS THE GREATEST VIRTUAL OF ANY KIND OF ART THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.

I THINK THE FOLKS IN THE THEATER, FILM, AND TV WORLD ARE THRILLED THAT YOU MADE THAT SHIFT.

APPRECIATE IT.

A REMINDER FOR YOU FOLKS OUT THERE, REPARATIONS ARE PLAYING AT THE BILLIE HOLIDAY THEATER THROUGH NOVEMBER 24th.

VISIT US AT METRO FOCUS.ORG.

WEALTH VERSUS TRADITION AND THE PLAYGROUND FOR THE SUPER RICH.

THE HAMP TONS ARE PART OF LONG ISLAND AND ALSO A NATIVE TRIBE.

THEIR EFFORTS TO DEFEND THEIR SACRED LAND IS THE FOCUS ON 'CONSCIOUS POINT' THAT AIRS THIS MO MONDAY.

WE HAVE SOME OF THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN THE PLANNEST AND THEN A NATIVE AMERICAN RESERVATION.

THEY HAVE MADE MASSIVE EFFEFFECT EFFORTS TO PROTECT THEIR SITES --

HOW WOULD YOU WANT THE RIGHTS TO BE --

I JUST TOLD YOU.

WHY IS IT FAIR TO CONTINUE ON COMMITTING THIS CRIME OF STOLEN PROPERTY?

JUST BECAUSE YOU STOLE 100 OR SO YEARS AGO DOESN'T MEAN THE CRIME GOES AWAY.

YOU PLAY GOLF, YOU MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHAT IS FAIR ABOUT THAT.

NOTHING, YOU HAVE TO START FROM SQUARE ONE.

FOR MORE ON HOW YOU WATCH 'CONSCIOUS POINT' GO OVER TO METROFOCUS.ORG.

AN ACTRESS BEST KNOWN FOR HER CAREER, IN PARTICULAR WAS MANY OF US IS HER HIT ON TAXI.

ALSO HER BEST SELLING HEALTH AND FITNESS BOOKS.

SHE ALSO IS ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE IN THE WORLD KNOWN TO HAVE HIGHLY SUPERIOR AUTOBIO GRAPHICAL MEMORY.

AND THE MEMORIES OF HOW SHE AND HER HUSBAND TODAY TOGETHER IN THE FACE OF CANCER AND TRIUMPHED.

HER NEW BOOK IS CALLED CHANGING NORMAL, HOW I HELPED MY HUSBAND BEAT CANCER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU FOR SO MANY REASONS.

LET'S SET THE STAGE FOR THIS.

YOU HAD KNOWN EACH OTHER YEARS BEFORE?

YEAH.

AROUND 2003 YOU RECONNECTED, RIGHT?

WE KNEW EACH OTHER IN COLLEGE, WE RAN INTO EACH OTHER IN A COURTHOUSE AFTER I LEFT SCHOOL TO BECOME A PROFESSIONAL ACT ACTRESS.

EIGHT YEARS LATER WE RAN INTO EACH OTHER.

AND THEY HAD NOT SEEN EACH NOER DO YEARS.

AND WE WERE SAYING I LOVE YOU, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF OUR LIVES TOGETHER, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TO IS A MARVELOUS STORYBOOK.

THE THUNDER BOLT STRIKES YOU BOTH, AND ANOTHER HIT YOU WHAT IS THAT.

TWO MONTHS IN, I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH ADVANCED STAGE BLADDER CANCER.

I HAD BEEN SYMPTOMATIC FOR TWO YEARS BUT GOING TO A VERY CONVENTIONAL DOCTOR ROUTE.

I WENT TO MY UROLOGIST AND HE KEPT INCORRECTLY DIAGNOSING ME.

I WENT SOMEONE NEW, AND THEY DIAGNOSED THE CANCER AND I ALSO HAD A NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH MARY LOU.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN FOR US THE TITLE HERE.

CHANGING NORMAL, AND THEN I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS.

TITLES ARE ALWAYS FASCINATING AND COMPELLING WHEN YOU TRY GET A SENSE OF WHAT THEY MEAN.

I ALWAYS SAY YOU KNOW IF YOU THINK OF YOUR BODY AS A FIELD OF SOIL AND A WEED SPROUTS, IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST CUT IT OUT AND KEEP DOING WHATEVER YOU WERE DOING AND GETTING MORE WEEDS.

LOVINGLY TENDING TO IT, PUTTING IN DIFFERENT FERTILIZER.

CHANGING THE NORMAL OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING IF YOU APT NEW RESULT INTO WHAT HAPPENED WAS THERE WAS SOMEONE IN HIS FAMILY THAT WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER AROUND THE SAME TIME.

THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU CHEMO AND SURGERY AND I SAID TO MICHAEL NO, SHE CAN'T GO BACK TO NORMAL, YOU TO CHANGE NORMAL OR YOU WILL END UP RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU WERE.

THAT IS WHERE THE TITLE OF THE BOOK CAME ABOUT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR LIFE AND THEN AT DIFFERENCES, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, AND YOUR OBSERVATIONS, WHAT DID YO FIND ABOUT HOW YOU HAD BEEN LIVING YOUR LIFE WHEN YOU CAME TO REALIZE THAT YOU NEEDED TO GET CHANGED.

THAT IS A BIG PART OF THE BOOK, THE INTRO OF THE BOOK IS HOW I GOT CANCER, AND I FOUND OUT EARLY IN MY HEALTH JOURNEY AFTER I GOT DIAGNOSED.

AND IT GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW LIKE IT DID.

AND I FOUND TOXIC EXPOSURES, HEAVY METAL EXPOSURE, AND THIS HAD BEEN GOING ON MY WHOLE LIFE FROM CHILDHOOD.

FRAEN THAT EXAMINATION OF MY PAST, I REALIZED THEY NEEDED TO CHANGE MY FUTURE AND MY NORMAL.

CERTAINLY, YOU GET INVOLVED, MY FRIENDS HAVE CALLED ME FOR YEARS.

YOU GET INVOLVED NOW AND WITH ALL OF THE FOCUS YOU HAD RECENTLY ON HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, YOU NOW HAD LITERALLY IN YOUR HOME, SO WHAT CAN YOU BOTH DECIDE TO DO?

HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO FIGHT THIS, THAT CHANGED YOUR NORMAL.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE -- I KNEW I WANT TODAY TAKE MICHAEL TO MY DOCTORS, BUT I SAID LET'S GO SEE SOME OF THE MORE CONVENTIONAL TYPES OF DOCTORS AND WE WENT TO SEE THE NUMBER ONE BLADDER SPECIALEST, WE WENT TO SEE HIM AND IT WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF THE BOOK AND HE SAID THIS IS YOUR LUCKY DAY.

I HAVE A CANCELLATION ON WEDNESDAY AND HE TAKES OUT A DIE GA -- DIAGRAM.

HE SAYS I'M GOING TO MAKE A NEOBLADDER.

DON'T WORRY, WE'RE GOING TO RUN A SMALL HOSE UP HIS PENIS AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX JUST PUMP IT UP SIX TIMES, AND I SAID CAN WE HAVE THE SEVEN PUMP MODEL, AND HE SAID YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF THE STEAK AND HIGHBALLS YOU WANT, AND WE SAID WELL, THERE YOU GO, MICHAEL SAID I'M NOTORG DON'T THINK YOU TO.

BUT LOOK AT THE BODY HOLISTICLY.

DON'T JUST ISOLATE IT.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MESSAGE HERE, YOU'RE NOT SAYING NEVER GO TO A TRADITIONAL DOCTOR.

NO, COMPLIMENT THE TYPICAL THERAPY, HE CHOSE NOT TO HAVE CHEMO AND RADIATION AND IT HE DIDN'T END UP NEEDING IT, AND HE WENT INTO REMISSION AND HE HAS BEEN IN REMISSION 12.5 YEARS ON BLADDER AND ALSO LUNG CANCER A FEW YEARS LATER.

A DOUBLE HEADER.

BUT I KNEW, I GOT INTO HEALTH BECAUSE MY PARENTS DIED YOUNG AND I FELT LIKE NO MATTER WHAT HE DECIDES TO DO, TRYING SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS CAN ONLY FORTIFY HIS IMMUNE SYSTEM.

YOU CHANGED YOUR NORMAL.

YEAH, I CHANGED IT BEFORE THE DIAGNOSIS I GOT WITH MARY LOU, AND SHE PRETTY FORCEFUL ABOUT HER LIFESTYLE AND THE MAKEOVER SHE WAS TRYING TO WORK ON ME, BUT THE YEAR WE FOUGHT THE CANCER FOR SIX MONTHS, I CHANGED MY NORMAL IN PROFOUND WAYS IN TERMS OF MY DIET AND THE WAY I DEALT WITH MY STRESS.

HAVING A LOVE OF MY LIFE IN MY LIFE AND HAVING SOMEONE TO LOVE ME, IT PROFOUNDLY CHANGED ME.

SINCE THEN BECAUSE CANCER IS A CHRONIC DISEASE, IF YOU CHANGE YOUR NORMAL, IF YOU HAVE DONE THINGS TO HELP CONVENTIONAL MEDICINE, YOU NEED TO STAY VIGILANT OR IT WILL COME BACK AND THIS IS, IN SOME WAYS --

IT'S NOT A ONE DISEASE APPROACH HERE.

YEAH, ESPECIALLY WITH TWO SEPARATE CANCERS AND I HAD TWO SEPARATE SPOTS TO DEAL WITH.

GLAD YOU'RE WELL, ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU, GOOD LUCK WITH THE BOOK.

THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.

METROFOCUS IS SPONSORS BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH, SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III, THE SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM.

BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, AND BY --

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MetroFocus is made possible by James and Merryl Tisch, Sue and Edgar Wachenheim III, the Sylvia A. and Simon B. Poyta Programming Endowment to Fight Anti-Semitism, Bernard and Irene Schwartz, Rosalind P. Walter, Barbara Hope Zuckerberg, Jody and John Arnhold, the Cheryl and Philip Milstein Family, Janet Prindle Seidler, Judy and Josh Weston and the Dr. Robert C. and Tina Sohn Foundation.

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