METROFOCUS: AUGUST 19, 2019

We take you back to 1969, a year of change for New York City. First, pioneering LGBT advocate and journalist Mark Segal joins us to talk about what really happened at the Stonewall riots. Then, attorney, reporter and talk show host Geraldo Rivera discusses the founding of the revolutionary Puerto Rican activist organization, the Young Lords.

Aired on November 12, 2015 & August 19, 2019. 

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS, A LOOK BACK AT ONE OF THE MOST TURBULENT YEARS IN NEW YORK CITY AND OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY, 1969.

A HOT JUNE NIGHT, THE DEATH OF JUDY GARLAND AND A GROUP OF GA MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAD HAD ENOUGH OF BEING HARASSED FOR WHO AN WHAT THEY WERE THE NIGHT THE STONEWALL INN WA RAIDED WAS THE LANDMARK EVENT.

SIEGEL WAS 18 WHEN IT WENT DOWN.

HE WAS THERE IS AND HE'LL TAKE US INSIDE THE STONE WALL, TH DAYS THAT FOLLOWED AND THE LOA THAT EVENTUALLY LED TO EQUALITY.

IT STARTED ON THE STREETS IN EAST HARLEM, A PROTEST ABOUT GARBAGE ROTTING ON THE STREETS PEOPLE FED UP LIKE BEING TREATED AS THE TRASH ITSELF.

IT WAS A TIPPING POINT FOR LATIN AMERICANS WHO HAD ENOUGH THE YOUNG LORDS WERE FORMED THAT NIGHT AND THEIR LEGACY RESONATES TO TODAY THEIR ATTORNEY LIVED IT, AND HE'LL BE HERE.

IT'S 1969, A YEAR THAT CHANGED NEW YORK IN FOCUS, RIGHT NOW.

ANNOUNCER: THIS I METROFOCUS, WITH RAFAEL, JAC AND JENNA.

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THE STRUGGLE FOR EQUALITY FOR GAY AMERICANS HAS DEEP ROOTS I NEW YORK CITY.

SHORTLY AFTER 1:00 A.M. ON JUN 28TH, 1969, POLICE OFFICER RAIDED THE STONEWALL INN, A GA BAR.

RAIDS AND THE PERSECUTION OF PATRONS OF GAY BARS WERE NOT UNUSUAL IN THE '60S.

WHAT WAS UNUSUAL IN THIS CAS WAS THAT THE PATRONS FOUGH BACK THE STONE WALL RIOTS ENSUED, AND THE GAY PRIDE MOVEMENT AS WE KNOW IT WAS BORN THE STONEWALL INN IS NOW THE FIRST AND ONLY DESIGNATE LANDMARK HONORING LGBT HISTORY IN NEW YORK CITY A FILM CALLED 'STONEWALL REINVIGORATED THE EVENTS OF TH TIMES.

WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT AT TH STONEWALL?

JOURNALIST MIKE SIEGEL WAS THERE AND HE'S CHRONICLED IT ALL I HIS MEMOIR, 'AND THEN I DANCE, TRAVELING THE ROAD TO LGBT EQUALITY.'

WELCOME.

THANK YOU

YOU WERE AN 18-YEAR-OLD KID FROM PHILADELPHIA TRYING TO MAKE IT IN THE BIG CITY YOU WERE AT THE STONEWALL TH FIRST NIGHTS OF THE RIOTS.

WHAT HAPPENED?

I'D GOTTEN TO NEW YORK SI WEEKS BEFORE I WAS AN 18-YEAR-OLD JUST OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, AND I DID WHAT AN GAY KID DID AT THE TIME, MOVE TO THE BIG CITY THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WE THOUGHT THE GAY PEOPLE WERE.

THEY DIDN'T EXIST.

THEY WERE INVISIBLE.

THERE WERE NO CABLE STATIONS THEN THERE WAS NO INTERNET.

IF YOU WANTED TO FIND OUT ABOU GAY PEOPLE, YOU WENT TO TH LIBRARY.

MOST LIKELY, THEY DIDN'T HAV ANYTHING YOU KNEW THAT GOING TO THE BIG CITY, YOU'D FIND GAY PEOPLE.

IN NEW YORK, THE PLACE YOU WEN WAS WHERE THE STONEWALL WAS.

FOR SIX WEEKS, I'D WALK UP AND DOWN THE STREET, POP INTO TH BARS OCCASIONALLY.

ONE WAS THE STONEWALL.

ON THAT NIGHT, I HAPPENED TO B IN THE BAR THE LIGHTS FLASHED ON.

POLICE CAME IN FIRST THING THE POLICE DO IS THEY HARASS THE QUEEN, OR TH FEMININE PEOPLE, STEREOTYPICAL PEOPLE THEY HARASS AND BLACKMAILED TH PEOPLE WHO LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE BUSINESSMEN.

THE PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO LOOKED LIKE THE BOY NEXT DOOR, LIKE ME, THEY LET OUT THEY HAD NO USE FOR ME I WAS A COWARD I WAS THRILLED TO BE CARTED AN LET OUT OF THE BAR WHAT I DID DO IS STAND ACROS THE STREET AND WATCH EVERYTHIN THAT HAPPENED.

AS IT BEGAN TO UNFOLD, THE WOULD LET PEOPLE COME OUT OF THE BAR SLOWLY AND SURELY.

THAT BEGAN TO BECOME A SEMICIRCLE AROUND THE FRON DOOR, OF GAY PEOPLE.

EVENTUALLY, INSIDE THE BAR WER JUST THE POLICE AND A COUPLE O PATRONS.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, PEOPLE STARTE THROWING THINGS AT THE DOOR.

THE ANGER OF 2,000 YEARS O OPPRESSION -

BUT WHY THIS NIGHT?

WHY DID THIS NIGHT CAUSE THA SPARK, WHEN IT HADN'T HAPPENED BEFORE IN NEW YORK CITY?

WELL, IT'S NOT NEW YORK CIT AND IT'S NOT SAN FRANCISCO O LOS ANGELES.

IT WAS THE COUNTER-CULTURE YEA OF 1969.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, YOU HAV BLACKS CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENTS, WOMEN RIGHTS MOVEMENTS, RIGHTS FOR LATINOS.

LOOKING AT THE SCENE ACROSS TH STREET FROM ME, I SAID, WHAT ABOUT US WHAT ABOUT OUR RIGHTS?

THAT'S THE FIRST TIME, BEING A KID FROM PHILADELPHIA, NO MONE IN MY POCKET, NO PLACE TO LIVE NOT A JOB, THINKING I HAD NO PROSPECTS IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, I SAID TO MYSELF, EVEN THOUG THERE WEREN'T THE WORDS FOR IT I SAID, THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO DEDICATE MY LIFE TO I'M A GAY ACTIVIST WHAT HAPPENED FROM STONEWALL THERE'S A LITTLE ASPECT OF OUR HISTORY THAT'S MISSING WHICH IS, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT FROM THE ASHES OF STONEWALL WAS BUILT THE GAY LIBERATION FRONT.

THAT BECAME AN ORGANIZATION THAT DID TWO IMPORTANT THINGS THE MOST TWO IMPORTANT THING EVER DONE IN THE LGBT COMMUNIT IN HISTORY WE FIRST DECIDED TO DO ONE THING THAT WAS REVOLUTIONARY WE WERE GOING TO DEFIN OURSELVES.

RATHER THAN BE DEFINED B SOCIETY.

UP UNTIL THAT POINT, THE ONL THING YOU KNEW ABOUT GAY PEOPL WERE WHAT YOU HEARD IN CHURCH.

WE WERE IMMORAL.

WHAT YOU HEARD BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WE WERE ILLEGAL.

WHAT YOU HEARD FROM PSYCHIATRY WE WERE MENTALLY ILL YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T BE EMPLOYED BY GOVERNMENT WE WERE TOTALLY INVISIBLE.

WE DECIDED TO DEFINE OURSELVES AND WHO WE WERE AS MEN AND WOMEN.

THE SECOND THING WE DID THAT HAD NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE IS GA LIBERATION FRONT CREATED WHAT WE NOW CALL THE LGBT COMMUNITY.

IN ONE YEAR, WE CREATED TH FIRST GAY YOUTH ORGANIZATION WHICH TOOK CARE OF BULLYING AN OTHER ISSUES AND SUICIDE OF GA YOUNG CHILDREN WE CREATED THE FIRST TRANS ORGANIZATION WE CREATED THE FIRST MENTA HEALTH ALERTS AND MEDICA ALERTS WE CREATED THE FIRST GAY COMMUNITY CENTER IF ALL OF THAT WERE NOT ENOUGH IN THE FIRST YEAR TO CELEBRATE ALONG WITH CRAIG ROBWELL, WE CREATED THE FIRST GAY PRID PARADE

IT SOUNDED LIKE ALL OF THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF STONEWALL HADN'T

NO, STONEWALL WAS THE SPARK AFTER STONEWALL, WE HAD FOUR DAYS OF SPEECHES OUTSIDE THE BUILDING A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAD BEE MEETING ELSEWHERE IN NEW YOR OVER LITTLE ISSUES, OR THEIR ISSUES, LESBIANS OVER HERE FEMININE MEN HERE, MASCULINE MEN HERE, THEY WERE MEETING IN THEIR OWN GROUPS DEFINING THEMSELVES STONEWALL UNITED ALL THESE GROUPS AND WE CREATED THE GA LIBERATION FRONT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF GA LIBERATION FRONT IS THAT U UNTIL 1969, YOU HAVE T REMEMBER, THE GAY RIGHTS STRUGGLE IN AMERICA STARTE LITERALLY IN 1925 IN CHICAGO B A MAN NAMED HENRY GERBER UNTIL 1925, 1969 AND THAT FIRS YEAR, ONLY 100 OUT PEOPLE IN THE NATION THAT'S IT.

100 PEOPLE SO ON THAT FIRST GAY PRIDE DAY WE HAD 15,000.

WE TOOK, IN ONE YEAR, COMMUNITY OF ACTIVISTS FRO 100 --

AND RIGHT AFTER STONEWALL

ONE YEAR.

SO THE LANDMARKING OF STONEWALL INN, HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THAT?

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IT LITERALLY MARKS THE POINT WHERE THE GAY RIGHTS STRUGGL BEGAN TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SIT BACK AND PLEAD FO OUR RIGHTS WE'RE GOING TO DEMAND TO B EQUAL CITIZENS WE'RE PEOPLE THAT DESERVE TH SAME RIGHTS AS ANY OTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OR AN OTHER LAW IN THE STATE

WELL, THIS YEAR, EARLIER THIS YEAR, A FEATURE FILM CAME OU ABOUT STONEWALL.

ONE WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE CAUSE FOR CELEBRATION AMONG TH GAY COMMUNITY, BUT IT WASN'T IT WAS HIGHLY CRITICIZED YOU WERE AMONG THE PEOPLE WH CRITICIZED IT.

WHY?

WELL, I TRIED TO GIVE IT FAIR SHOT.

I CALLED THE PRODUCERS AND DIRECTOR AND SAID, WHEN I HEAR THE FILM WAS BEING PRODUCED, WHY DON'T YOU TALK TO SOME OF US WHO WERE THERE THEY NEVER RESPONDED

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT

I DON'T KNOW, TO BE HONEST.

WHEN THE TRAILER CAME OUT, EVERYBODY ATTACKED IT.

I WROTE A PIECE FOR 'THE ADVOCATE' MAGAZINE, SAYING OKAY, FOLKS, LET'S NOT GET EXCITED.

LET'S SEE WHAT THEY DID AN LET'S NOT CRITICIZE SOMETHING ON A TWO-MINUTE TRAILER MAYBE IT'S A GOOD MOVIE.

I WANTED TO LIKE IT.

I REALLY DID I WENT TO A SCREENING OF IT, AND I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED.

WHY

I HAVE TO TELL YOU, EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IN THE FILM ALL OF US WHO WALKED UP AND DOWN THAT STREET WERE DEPICTED AS SEX WORKERS.

I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I WAS NOT SEX WORKER ON TOP OF THAT, THEY MADE IT - THE CHARACTERS WERE SO CARTOONISH FOR ME, BEING ONE OF THE WHITE GUYS WHO WAS THERE, I TARGETED ON DANNY, THE MAIN CHARACTER EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THA CHARACTER WAS ME, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COMING FROM THE MIDWEST.

I CAME FROM PHILADELPHIA I FOUND THE GAY YOUTH, MARK AN SYLVIA, WERE MY CLOSE FRIENDS.

I HELPED THEM WITH STAR, AND THEY HELPED ME WITH GAY YOUTH.

THAT WAS NOT ON THE SCREEN I KNOW THEY SAY IT'S FICTIONAL BUT WHY ARE THEY USING SOME OF OUR NAMES?

THEY USE SOME OF THE REAL NAMES?

THEY DID.

WOW

BOB KOHLER.

THERE'S OTHERS OF US IN TH FILM, AND WE KNOW WHO WE WERE IN THE FILM TO SEE US BEING PORTRAYED, I FELT SAD STONEWALL, AND WHAT WE CREATED THE GAY LIBERATION FRONT, WE WERE JOYOUS.

I MEAN, WE WERE FULL OF JOY FO ONE SIMPLE REASON.

WE DECIDED WE WERE NO LONGER GOING TO TAKE IT, AND WE ORGANIZED -- THE FILM DOESN' SHOW ANY ORGANIZING.

THE FIRST YEAR IT SHOWS THAT WAS PIVOTAL TO THE MOVEMENT IS A THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY SHOWED THE GAY PRIDE MARCH.

ONE OF THE STORIES IN YOU MEMOIR IS ABOUT YOUR DEBUT A AMERICA'S FIRST GAY TELEVISION STAR WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?

WELL, WHAT I LEARNED FROM GAY LIBERATION FRONT WAS THAT WE HAD TO END INVISIBILITY.

WE WERE DOING IT IN OUR OW COMMUNITY, WE WEREN'T DOING IT IN GENERAL IN ORDER TO CHANGE WHO WE WERE AND THE PERCEPTION OF WHO TH LGBT COMMUNITY WAS, WE NEEDED TO GET THE MEDIA.

THE MEDIA DIDN'T COVER US.

THERE WERE NO GAY PEOPLE IN AN CHARACTERS ON ANY TV SHOW.

WE DID NOT APPEAR ON THE NEWS.

I DECIDED TO CHANGE THAT B DISRUPTING TV SHOWS.

THE ONE I'M MOST NOTED FOR I CBS EVENING NEWS WITH WALTER HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SECURIT PROCEDURES WHEN HE CAME BACK FROM A COMMERCIAL, AND I SLIPPED BETWEEN HIM AND HIS DESK AND SAT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE CAMER AND HELD A SIGN THAT SAYS, GAY PROTEST CBS PREJUDICE.

I GOT ARRESTED WALTER CAME TO THE TRIAL T TESTIFY.

DURING A BREAK IN THE TRIAL, I WAS IN THE HALLWAY TALKING TO MY LAWYER I FELT A TAB ON MY BACK.

I TURNED AROUND AND THE GU SAID, YOU MUST BE MARK SIEGEL.

I LOOKED AT THE GUY AND GO, YO MUST BE WALTER

YOU BECAME FAST FRIENDS AFTER THAT, RIGHT?

HE WAS YOUR MENTOR I JOURNALISM

YES WALTER IS ONE OF THOSE GENEROU PEOPLE HE REALLY CARES.

HE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHY FELT THAT THERE WA DISCRIMINATION ON HIS BROADCAST.

HE WAS A GOOD JOURNALIST, AND HE WAS NOT GOING TO HAVE BIAS I TOLD HIM ONE STORY, WHICH WA YOU TALKED ABOUT NEW YORK CITY REFUSING TO PASS THE GAY RIGHT BILL FOR THE THIRD TIME.

HE SAID, YEAH, IT WAS A VALID STORY.

I SAID, IT WAS, BUT WHY DIDN'T YOU TALK ABOUT THE 26 OTHER CITIES THAT HAD PASSED GAY RIGHTS LAWS?

A WEEK LATER, WALTER -- IF YOU WATCH THE CBS EVENING NEWS, MAP OF THE UNITED STATES CAM UP, AND THERE WAS WALTER WITH POINTER TALKING ABOUT STATES THAT PASSED THE GAY RIGHTS BILL.

HE NEVER ONCE SAID HE WAS WRONG.

THE LAST CHAPTER OF THE BOO IS THE SAME TITLE OF THE BOOK, AND THEN WE DANCE.

IT ENDS WITH YOU AND YOU PARTNER JASON AT THE WHITE HOUSE IN JUNE 2014 WHAT'S YOUR NEXT CHAPTER AND THE NEXT CHAPTER OF THE GA COMMUNITY?

WHAT AMAZES ME WHEN YOU MENTION THAT IS I THINK ABOU THE KID, 18 YEARS OLD, STANDIN OUTSIDE OF STONEWALL, THINKING HE HAD NO PROSPECTS IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE.

PRESIDENT OBAMA INVITES THAT MAN TO COME TO DANCE AT THE WHIT HOUSE.

THAT'S AMAZING TO ME THEN I GOT TO REALIZE THAT W HAVE MARRIAGE EQUALITY TODAY ANYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY YOU CAN GET MARRIED.

THREE MINUTES LATER, IN MOST O THIS COUNTRY, YOU CAN BE FIRED FOR JUST GETTING MARRIED BECAUSE THERE ISN' NON-DISCRIMINATION LAWS IN MOS OF THE COUNTRY THAT'S THE NEXT BATTLE AND WE'LL DO IT AND WE'LL WI IT

ALL RIGHT, MARK THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU BEEN A PLEASURE.

YOU CAN READ AN EXCERPT FRO MARK'S MEMOIR, 'AND THEN I DANCE,' AND JOIN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT LGBT EQUALITY AND STONEWALL ON OUR WEBSITE METROFOCUS.ORG

> ON JULY 26TH, 1969, A GROU OF YOUNG LATINOS STOOD UP IN NEW YORK CITY'S EAST VILLAGE AND MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT THEY WERE FOUNDING A NEW YOR BRANCH OF A REVOLUTIONAR ORGANIZATION CALLED THE YOUN LORDS.

THEIR INSPIRATION, THE BLACK PANTHERS AMONG THEIR GOALS, PUERTO RICA INDEPENDENCE, COMMUNITY CONTROL, ARMED SELF-DEFENSE AND A SOCIALIST SOCIETY.

THEIR LAWYER, RIVERA HE JOINS ME NOW.

WELCOME.

SOUNDS HARSHER THAN IT DID AT THE TIME

WE'LL GET TO THE POLITICS I A SECOND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TH YOUNG LORDS.

WHO WERE THEY?

HOW DID THEY COME TO BE?

THEY WERE A GROUP OF YOUN ACTIVISTS, AND ALTHOUGH THEI ANNOUNCEMENT OF THEIR EXISTENCE, THEY WERE VERY REVOLUTIONARY TO ME, THEIR BIGGEST EMPHASIS, AND THE REASON THEY WERE S UNIQUE, IS THEY WERE THE FIRST PUERTO RICAN ACTIVIST GROU WHOSE FOCUS WAS NOT PRIMARIL THE STATUS OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PUERTO RICO, THE INDEPENDENCE OF PUERTO RICO, BUT RATHER, TH SOCIAL CONDITION OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN SPANISH HARLEM AND THE LOWER EAST SIDE AND THE BRONX.

THE PUERTO RICAN, THE LATINO COMMUNITY HERE IN THE FIVE BOROUGHS

AS I SAID, IT WAS SOCIALISM ANTI-CAPITALISM, INDEPENDENC FROM PUERTO RICO WAS THAT YOUR POLITICS BAC THEN

IT WAS MY POLITICS LARGELY.

I JUST REMEMBER, AS YOU WERE SPEAKING, I REMEMBER ONE EVENT WHERE I HAD A '68 VOLKSWAGEN CONVERTIBLE.

I WAS PROUD OF IT, MY FIRST CAR, MY FIRST NEWISH CAR.

I REMEMBER DRIVING AND LEADING A PARADE FROM THE HEADQUARTERS O 111TH STREET DOWN LEXINGTO AVENUE TO THE UNITED NATIONS T PROTEST THE PUERTO RICO STATUS GETTING TO THE HILL AT LIKE 99TH STREET AND LOOKING BACK AN SEEING 40,000 PEOPLE STRETCHED OUT, JAMMED ON LEXINGTON AVENUE, ALL THE WAY TO 116TH STREET, I WAS LIKE AN AMAZINGLY VIBRAN AND RELEVANT MOMENT.

MY POLITICS WERE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME IT WAS A WILD TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT HA TURNED VIOLENT IN MANY WAYS.

HAD BEEN THE URBAN RIOTING NEWARK BURNED IN '67 THE CITY WAS DEFINITELY -- I MEAN, THE COUNTRY WAS DEFINITELY ON EDGE, DIVIDED IN MANY WAYS.

THE CIVIL RIGHTS, THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT WAS RAGING.

MANY OF US, YOU KNOW PASSIONATELY ENGAGED, LOOKIN BACK ON IT, MAYBE A LOT HAD TO DO WITH WE WANTED TO DODGE THE DRAFT, WANTED THE WAR TO END BEFORE WE WERE SUCKED INTO IT.

I HAD VERY LONG HAIR I SAW MYSELF -- THAT WAS THE YEAR, '68, I GREW THE MUSTACHE HAVEN'T SHAVED IT SINCE.

THE MUSTACHE IS OLDER THAN M WIFE THOSE WERE MY -- THOSE WERE MY POLITICS THEY SAY IF YOU'RE NOT A SOCIALIST AS A KID, YOU HAVE N HEART.

IF YOU'RE NOT A CONSERVATIVE A A GROWN-UP, YOU HAVE NO BRAIN.

I DON'T BUY IT

YOU'RE NOT A CONSERVATIVE BUT YOUR POLICIES CHANGE YOU WERE GOING TO RUN AS A REPUBLICAN IN NEW JERSEY FOR THE U.S. SENATE.

I AM A REGISTERED REPUBLICAN, AND I WAS A REPUBLICAN THEN, IRONICALLY

IN '67?

ACCIDENTAL REPUBLICAN MY DAD BECAME A REPUBLICAN WHE WE MOVED FROM WILLIAMSBURG BROOKLYN, TO WEST BABYLON.

TO WORK FOR THE TOWN, YOU HAD TO BE THE PARTY THAT RAN THE TOWN OF BABYLON IT WAS THE REPUBLICANS I WANTED A JOB AT THE HIGHWA DEPARTMENT MY DAD WAS A REPUBLICAN, SO BECAME A REPUBLICAN SO I COULD WORK ON THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IN WEST BABYLON.

SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLITICS, I'LL DIGRESS ONE SECOND DONALD TRUMP, YOU WERE A CELEBRITY APPRENTICE I THINK HE'S A FRIEND OF YOURS CORRECT.

HE IS

WHAT DO YOU MAKE ABOUT HI STATEMENTS OF DEPORTING THE 11 MILLION UNDOCUMENTED HIS STATEMENTS ABOUT PARTICULARLY MEXICAN UNDOCUMENTS?

I LOVE DONALD TRUMP AND BECAME CLOSE TO HIM, WHO I HAD KNOWN FOR DECADES.

BECAME ESPECIALLY CLOSE TO DONALD AND HIS FAMILY.

WONDERFUL FATHER AND A GREAT GRANDFATHER.

I'VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES.

GREAT, GENEROUS, OPEN-HEARTED, SMART, DYNAMIC, ENERGETIC, CREATIVE AND, IN SOME WAYS HISTORIC GUY WHAT HE SAID ABOUT MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS -- AND I'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION SO I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU, WITH HIM FACE-TO-FACE -- WAS APPALLING.

IT WAS WRETCHED.

IT SMACKED A RACIAL STEREOTYPING THAT WAS SO SLOPPY AND INACCURATE AND HURTFUL TO SO MANY PEOPLE.

I TRIED TO SHARE THAT WITH HIM I SAID TO HIM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE FOR STRONG BORDER CONTROL BUT TO CALL A WHOLE RACE O PEOPLE DRUG DEALERS AND RAPISTS, AND TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DEPORT NOT ONLY THE 11 MILLION WHO ARE HERE, EVEN IF THEY'V BEEN LAW-ABIDING, HERE FOR DECADES, BUT ALSO THEI U.S.-BORN CITIZEN CHILDREN, IS DRACONIAN AND SO INDEFENSIBLE.

DOES HE MEAN IT

YOU KNOW, I SAID, JUST SA YOU'RE SORRY JUST SAY WHAT I'M SAYING NOW THAT YOU WANT BORDER CONTROL PEOPLE HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW.

ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT T ACCOMPLISH SAY THAT, BUT IN A WAY THA RESPECTS THIS GROUP, THE VAS MAJORITY OF WHOM ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO HAVE REINVIGORATE TOWNS, LIKE WASHINGTON HEIGHTS I MEAN, YOU LOOK AROUND, AND THERE ARE 500,000 UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN NEW YORK AND THE NEW YORK METRO AREA.

YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT THEM.

WHY?

THEY'RE NOT COMMITTING CRIMES.

THEY'RE NOT RAPING THEY'RE NOT SHOOTING IT WAS VERY UNFORTUNATE.

IT IS THE REASON HE WILL NOT B THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITE STATES HE MAY BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE, BUT HE WON'T BE THE PRESIDENT.

ALL RIGHT LET'S GET BACK TO THE YOUN LORDS.

HOW DID YOU BECOME THE LAWYE FOR THE YOUNG LORDS?

THE YOUNG LORDS MADE THEI ANNOUNCEMENT, YOU REPORTED ACCURATELY, IN JULY 1969, TH MONTH I TOOK MY BAR EXAM AFTER GRADUATED FROM LAW SCHOOL.

I KNEW THEIR HEADQUARTERS WERE ON PARK AVENUE, AND I JUST SAID, YOU KNOW SOMETHING YOU'RE THE PUERTO RICAN ACTIVIST GROUP.

I'M THE PUERTO RICAN LAWYER.

I'M YOUR LAWYER.

THEY ALREADY HAD FINE ACTIVIST ATTORNEYS.

ALL THE TYPICAL LAWYERS.

I SAID, NO, I'M YOUR LAWYER.

THAT'S HOW I BECAME A PUBLIC PERSON

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK, AT LEAST MOST OF TH FORMER YOUNG LORDS I KNOW, WER NOT BORN IN PUERTO RICO.

PART OF THE ALLURE OF THE YOUN LORDS WAS THAT IT HELPED THE RECONNECT OR CONNECT WITH THEI ROOTS, THE PUERTO RICAN ROOTS.

WAS THAT AN ALLURE FOR YOU

OH, FOR SURE.

FOR SURE GROWING THE MUSTACHE IN '68, THE YEAR BEFORE THAT, AND THEN STYLING MYSELF HIRALDO, RATHER THAN JERRY, WHICH IS WHAT I WA CALLED AS A YOUTH, I WANTED TO BE THAT PERSON I WANTED TO BE THE BRIDGE, THE ORIGINAL YOU HAVE JUAN GONZALEZ, PABL GUZMAN, DENISE OLIVER.

THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO - DIDN'T JUAN GO TO COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY THESE WERE NOT GHETTO, POO FOLKS.

THESE WERE PEOPLE LIKE ME WH WERE REALIZING WHO THEY WERE A THIS VIBRANT, VITAL TIME IN NE YORK HISTORY TOGETHER, WE DID MAKE HISTORY.

BY THE WAY, I REMEMBER SEEING THIS IN A DOCUMENTARY, WHERE A ONE POINT, YOU WANTED TO BECOM A MEMBER OF THE YOUNG LORDS.

I WAS ALMOST A MEMBER I WORE A BERET

I REMEMBER FELIPE SAYING STORY ABOUT HOW HE WAS RUNNING FROM THE COPS AND YOU RAN WITH HIM AND GOT IN BETWEEN HIM AND THE COPS AND SAID, STOP.

I'M HIS LAWYER

IT'S TRUE IT'S TRUE.

YOU WANTED TO BE AN OFFICIA MEMBER, AND THE LEADERSHIP SAI NO YOU TOOK THAT BADLY.

WHAT WAS THEIR MOTIVATION?

FOR ME NOT TO ACCEPT --

WHAT WAS THEIR MOTIVATION

I THINK THEY WERE PROTECTIN ME THEY HAD -- WHAT HAPPENED WAS, I WAS THERE FOR THE GLAMOROU BUILDING AND THREE DAYS IN A ROW ON THE FRONT OF THE 'NEW YOR TIMES,' 'TODAY' SHOW DOING REMOTE CAMERAS IT WAS UNIQUE AT THAT TIME NOW, IT'S DIME A DOZEN THOSE DAYS, WHEN A SHOW LIKE THE 'TODAY' SHOW MOVED TO EAST HARLEM TO DO A LIVE REMOTE -

WHEN THE YOUNG LORDS TOOK OVER THE CHURCH.

YEAH.

THAT WAS A VITAL, VIBRANT TIME LATER, THEY ALL, MANY, WENT TO JAIL FOR DRAFT EVASION TRESPASS, RESISTING ARREST, YO KNOW, ASSAULT ON POLIC OFFICERS THE SYSTEM DRAGGED THEM DOWN WITH 1,000 CUTS, AND THE IDEALISM THAT FUELED THA INITIAL ENERGY, WHERE THEY WANTED TO DO GREAT THINGS, FRE LEAD PAINT POISONING TESTING FREE BREAKFASTS, DAYCARE UNIVERSAL DAYCARE.

BETTER GARBAGE PICKUP

NUTRITION, EVERYTHING PUBLIC SERVICES.

WHAT THEY WANTED WAS NOT A RADICAL AGENDA THEY WERE RADICAL -- O RADICALIZED, BUT THE AGENDA WA COMMON SENSE IT'S NOT FAR FROM WHAT DE BLASIO WANTS.

YOU MENTIONED ALL OF THEM FELIPE, GUZMAN, GONZALEZ YOURSELF

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I LOOK AT RAFAEL AND SAY T MYSELF, DID WE MAKE THE TIME O DID THE TIME MAKE US TO BE IN THAT MOMENT IN HISTORY, IT WAS JUST LIKE ONE OF THOS TIMES.

THESE HUGE FORCES WE HAD N CONTROL OVER WERE SWIRLING AROUND, AND EVERYTHING CAM TOGETHER AND CRYSTALLIZED.

FOR THE SAME ALLURE THAT ATTRACTED ME, THE CITY WAS ENGAGED, SOME SUBMITTED AN OTHERS WORRIED THE FACE OF THE CITY WAS CHANGING.

NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE SAYING, ABOUT TIM SOMETHING IS STANDING UP FOR THIS POPULATION.

THIS EMERGING POPULATION WITH NO VOICE.

NOW, THEY HAVE A VOICE

YOU GUYS WERE FORCED TO BECOME ELOQUENT, TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF

STUCK ME IN FRONT OF TH CAMERA EYEWITNESS NEWS ACROSS THE STREET, HE SAW ME AND SAID, YO WANT TO BE ON TV

A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT ON T BECAUSE YOU WENT ON TV I SUBMIT I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE

I ACCEPT YOU AS ONE OF MY PRODIGIES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE

THANK YOU

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THEY SAY YOU PLAY BASKETBALL.

YOU PLAY FOOTBALL.

YOU PLAY TENNIS.

BUT YOU CAN'T PLAY BOXING.

YOU HAVE TO FIGHT.

I REMEMBER THE NIGHT IT WENT COMPLETELY DOWNHILL.

IT WAS A MASSIVE TUMOR THA WRAPPED ITSELF AROUND MY SPINE AND THE DOCTOR, MY SURGEON, HE ACED IT.

THEY RESURRECTED ME.

ON AUGUST 9TH, 2014, I BECAM THE WBA MIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD

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