METROFOCUS: JULY 10, 2019

July 11, 2019 at 5:30 am

With President Trump facing possible legal trouble here in New York, we take a look back at another commander in chief whose courtroom showdown rocked the state. ABC News Chief Legal Affairs Correspondent Dan Abrams will join us to lay out the case. Asbury Park, once a mecca for musicians like Bruce Springsteen, fell on very hard times, but is now going through a miraculous and melodious metamorphosis. We have the story. A new study on the impact of toy colors on your child’s development reveals some interesting facts.

Aired on May 29, 2019 and July 10, 2019.

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>>> TONIGHT ON "METROFOCUS"
THEODORE ROOSEVELT FOR THE
DEFENSE.
WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP FACING
POSSIBLE LEGAL TROUBLE HERE IN
NEW YORK, WE LOOK BACK AT
ANOTHER COMMANDER IN CHIEF WHOSE
COURTROOM SHOWDOWN ROCKED THE
STATE.
ABC NEWS CHIEF LEGAL AFFAIRS
CORRESPONDENT DAN ABRAMS LAYS
OUT THE CASE.
EVERYTHING THAT DIES ONE DAY
COMES BACK.
THOSE LYRICS IMMORTALIZED BY
ASBURY PARK'S FAVORITE SON BRUCE
SPRINGSTEEN CERTAINLY APPLIED TO
HIS HOMETOWN.
ONCE A MECCA FOR MUSIC, ASBURY
FELL ON VERY HARD TIMES BUT IS
NOW GOING THROUGH A ME RACK
LOUSE AND MELODIOUS MEDICAL MORE
FA SIS.
IN A MOMENT, A NEW STUDY ON TOY
COLORS AND THEIR IMPACT ON YOUR
CHILD'S DEVELOPMENT REVEALS SOME
INTERESTING FACTS.
DETAILS AHEAD.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS
"METROFOCUS" STARTS RIGHT NOW.
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>>> THIS IS "METROFOCUS" WITH
RAFAEL P. RAMON, JACK FORD AND
JENNA FLANAGAN.
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>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO
"METROFOCUS."
I'M JACK FORD.
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS FOUND
HIMSELF AT THE CENTER OF SEVERAL
INVESTIGATIONS HERE IN NEW YORK
THAT COULD EXPOSE HIM TO LEGAL
TROUBLE PERHAPS WHEN HE LEAVES
OFFICE.
BUT HE IS NOT THE FIRST
PRESIDENT TO FACE PROBLEMS IN
THE EMPIRE STATE.
PRESIDENT THEODORE ROOSEVELT HAD
TO FIGHT TO DEFEND HIS LEGACY
AFTER LEAVING OFFICE OVER A
CENTURY AGO.
THIS AFTER A FRIEND TURNED RIVAL
SUED OUR NATION'S 26th COMMANDER
IN CHIEF FOR LIABLE, SETTING THE
STAGE FOR A CASE THAT ARGUABLY
RANKS AMONG THE TRIALS OF THE
CENTURY.
THAT COURTROOM SHOWDOWN IN
SYRACUSE IS NOW THE FOCUS ON THE
NEW BOOK "THEODORE ROOSEVELT FOR
THE DEFENSE."
OUR GUEST TONIGHT IS BEHIND THAT
STORY.
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE WITH
US HERE ON "METROFOCUS" MY GOOD
FRIEND FOR A LOT OF YEARS, ABC
NEWS CHIEF LEGAL AFFAIRS
CORRESPONDENT DAN ABRAMS.
>> JACK, GREAT TO BE BACK WITH
YOU.
>> TAKES US BACK TO OUR OLD
DAYS.
>> RIGHT.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG
TIME.
>> WE'RE NOWPAST THE DECADES
INTO MANY DECADES.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BOOK.
I'LL PREFACE IT BY SAYING I
THOUGHT I KNEW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT
ROOSEVELT, RED A LOT OF THE
BIOS.
I FOUND HIM JUST A FABULOUSLY
ENTERTAINING AND CURIOUS FIGURE,
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THIS STORY.
>> YEAH.
>> LET'S START OFF WITH HOW YOU
DISCOVERED THE STORY AND SOME OF
THE DETAILS.
>> SO IN OUR FIRST BOOK
"LINCOLN'S LAST TRIAL" WE FOUND
THIS TRANSCRIPT THAT HAD BECOME
A FOOTNOTE TO HISTORY FOUND IN
1989 THE ONLY TRANSCRIPT.
WE TOLD THE STORY SURROUNDING
THAT TRANSCRIPT.
>> IT WAS A GREAT STORY, BY THE
WAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT THE BOOK.
IT WAS A MARVELOUS READ.
>> IT WAS A FUN STORY AS ABRAHAM
LINCOLN AS THE LAWYER.
SO WE SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS MAKES
SENSE FOR US TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS
OUT THERE IN TERMS OF
TRANSCRIPTS AND TRIALS.
AND WE CAME UPON THIS.
THEODORE ROOSEVELT ON THE STAND
FOR EIGHT DAYS DEFENDING HIS
LEGACY, HIS HONOR AND AS YOU
POINT OUT THEODORE ROOSEVELT IS
AN INTERESTING CHARACTER.
NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OF
THEODORE ROOSEVELT, HE IS SUPER
COMPELLING.
THE IDEA OF HIM BEING ON THE
WITNESS STAND FOR EIGHT DAYS.
FRANKLY ROOSEVELT TESTIFIES IN
HIS DEFENSE.
IT'S AN AMAZING STORY THAT, YOU
KNOW, IS OCCASIONALLY MENTIONED
IN A THEODORE ROOSEVELT
BIOGRAPHY.
>> WHAT'S THE GENESIS?
I MENTIONED FRIEND TURNED RIVAL.
WHAT WAS IT THAT HAPPENS THAT
BRINGS THEM BOTH INTO A
COURTROOM.
>> SO WILLIAM BARNES WAS A
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN LEADER.
AT THE TIME HE WAS THE HEAD OF
THE NEW YORK REPUBLICAN PARTY.
ROOSEVELT WAS BASICALLY ACCUSING
HIM AND THE HEAD OF THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF BEING IN
CAHOOTS TO PREVENT CITIZENS FROM
GETTING TO VOTE FOR THEIR
SENATORS, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS THE PARTY
INSIDERS WHO PICKED THE SENATE.
IT WAS THE STATE HEDGE SLAYTURE,
SO THE PARTY BOSSES HAD
ENORMOUS -- NO POPULAR VOTE OF
SENATORS.
AND IT ENRAGED ROOSEVELT.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS WRONG.
HE THOUGHT THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO VOTE AND HIS POSITION
WAS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WERE
WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE
THAT THAT STAYED THE CASE AND
THEY ACCUSED BARNES OF BEING
CORRUPT.
BARNES SUED THEM.
BARNES SAID, THIS IS HURTING MY
REPUTATION.
BARNES HAD FUTURE POLITICAL
AMBITIONS, TAKES HIM TO COURT,
SUES HIM FOR $50,000 WHICH AT
THE TIME WAS A LOT OF MONEY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WARNED BARNES.
THEY SAID BE CAREFUL HERE, ARE
YOU SURE YOU WANT TO GO DOWN
THIS ROAD?
AND ROOSEVELT WAS VERY CONCERNED
WHEN HE GOT SUED BECAUSE THIS
TRIAL WAS ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN
WHETHER WILLIAM BARNES WAS
CORRUPT, BECAUSE BACK IN THE DAY
THE LEGAL STANDARD WAS THAT
ROOSEVELT HAD TO PROVE IT WAS
TRUE.
>> VERY DIFFERENT FROM NOW.
>> VERY DIFFERENT FROM NOW.
IN THE END THE PLAINTIFFS WENT
AFTER ROOSEVELT.
THEY BASICALLY SAID YOU DID THE
SAME STUFF, YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE
AND ROOSEVELT TOOK THAT
INCREDIBLY PERSONALLY AND FELT
VERY STRONGLY THAT HE NEEDED TO
DEFEND HIMSELF AND HIS HONOR.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT HE WASN'T SO
GREAT AT TAKING INSTRUCTION FROM
THE LAWYERS OR THE JUDGE.
>> CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING HIM AS
YOUR CLIENT AND NOT TAKING YOUR
INSTRUCTIONS?
>> YOU KNOW, AT TALES THIS IS A
SERIOUS THING TO ROOSEVELT.
THERE WERE TIMES WHEN THE
RULINGS THAT WENT AGAINST HIM
WOULD CANCEL HIS WEEKEND PLANS
SO HE COULD HUDDLE WITH HIS
LAWYERS FOR THE WEEKEND.
THERE WERE DEFINITELY TIMES WHEN
HE WAS ON THE WITNESS STAND WHEN
IT WAS CLEAR HE WAS ENJOYING
HIMSELF.
>> YOU'RE SORT OF SURPRISED THAT
THE STORY HAS CONTINUED
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
EXTENT OF THE MEDIA COVERAGE.
>> JUST READING THE "NEW YORK
TIMES" COVERAGE OF THIS TRIAL
TAKES DAYS.
IT IS SINGLE SPACED, BASICALLY
TRANSCRIPTIONS BECAUSE IT WAS
SUCH A BIG DEAL, BIG HEADLINE,
FOLLOWED BY WHAT ARE REALLY
TRANSCRIPTIONS OF WHAT WAS
HAPPENING IN COURT.
NOT EVERY WORD, BUT A LOT OF IT.
THINK ABOUT IT.
WE'RE 1915.
WORLD WAR I IS HEATING UP.
BIG DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE
ABOUT U.S. INVOLVEMENT.
AND THAT TRIAL AND THE SINGING
OF THE SINKING OF THE LUCITANIA
KNOCKED IT OFF THE FRONT PAGE.
IT BECAME A SENSITIVE ISSUE FOR
THEM IN THE TRIAL BECAUSE THERE
WERE THREE GERMAN AMERICANS WHO
WERE ON THE JURY.
BACK THEN A LOT OF GERMAN
AMERICANS HAD GREAT SYMPATHY
WITH THE GERMANS.
MANY GERMAN AMERICANS HAD BEEN
VERY CRITICAL OF ROOSEVELT'S
POSITION UP TO THAT POINT WHICH
HAD BEEN WE GOT TO GET INTO THIS
WAR.
THE GERMANS ARE UP TO --
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE
HOW WILSON WON REELECTION BY
VOWING TO KEEP US OUT OF THE
WAR.
>> YEP.
AND ROOSEVELT PUSHING VERY, VERY
HARD TO SAY WE OUGHT TO BE IN
THIS.
SO IT SUNK DURING THE TRIAL.
HIS LAWYERS ARE CONCERNED ARE WE
GOING TO ALIENATE THESE THREE OF
OUR 12 JURIES THAT ARE GERMAN
AMERICANS.
AS A WHOLE GERMAN AMERICANS HAVE
BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE
GERMANS AND VERY ANGRY WITH
ROOSEVELT FOR COMMENTS TDE.
AMAZINGLY WORLD WAR I ENDS UP
CONNECTING TO THIS TRIAL AS
WELL.
>> YOU ALWAYS LOOK FOR
PARALLELS.
SO WE NOW HAVE A PRESIDENT
WHETHER YOU SUPPORT HIM OR
OPPOSE HIM, I THINK EVERYBODY
WILL AGREE HE IS SOMEBODY THAT
IS NOT AFRAID OF A FIGHT AND
SOMETIMES WILL SEEK OUT FIGHTS.
SO DO YOU SEE PARALLELS.
>> THERE ARE DEFINITELY
PARALLELS.
THERE ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT
DIFFERENCES.
TH
THEODORE ROOSEVELT BELIEVED IN
EXECUTIVE POWER.
HE BELIEVED CONGRESS SHOULDN'T
BE GETTING INTO HIS BUSINESS.
HE CALLED PEOPLE NAMES.
HE CALLED PEOPLE EUNUCHS.
>> QUAINT.
>> THEN THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.
HE WAS A REPUBLICAN FROM NEW
YORK WHO WAS VERY OUTSPOKEN,
KNEW HOW TO PLAY THE MEDIA, WAS
ALSO CRITICAL OF THE MEDIA AND
IN FACT AT ONE POINT HE USED THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO
PROSECUTE MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA
BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THEY
WERE SAYING.
A COUPLE OF PAPERS HAD BASICALLY
SUGGESTED THAT HE'D SKIM SOME OF
THE MONEY ON THE PANAMA CANAL
DEAL OR PEOPLE CLOSE TO HIM.
AND HE WENT CRAZY.
>> SIMILAR TO YOUR PRIOR BOOK
WHERE ABRAHAM LINCOLN THREW
JOURNALISTS IN JAIL BECAUSE HE
DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THEY WERE
WRITING DURING THE CIVIL WAR.
>> AT LEAST THERE THERE WAS A
WAR, SOME REMOTE JUSTIFICATION.
WHAT ROOSEVELT DID HERE WAS --
EVENTUALLY THE CASE GOT THROWN
OUT, BUT HE HAD A LOVE-HATE
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MEDIA.
HE'S THE ONE WHO CALLED THEM
INITIALLY MUCKRAKERS WHICH AT
THE TIME WAS A BIG INSULT WHICH
THE PRESS TOOK IN THE END AS A
BADGE OF HONOR.
SO THERE WERE A LOT OF
COMPARISONS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, HE WAS
SOMEONE WHO CARED MORE ABOUT
NATURAL RESOURCES THAN ALMOST
ANYTHING.
MOST OF OUR NATIONAL PARKS ARE
THANKS TO THEODORE ROOSEVELT.
HE CARED ENORMOUSLY ABOUT
HONESTY.
I THINK EVEN DONALD TRUMP
SUPPORTERS WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW,
COME ON, SOME OF THE STUFF HE'S
SAYING, YEAH, MAYBE IT'S NOT
ENTIRELY TRUE BUT IT'S ABOUT
STUFF THAT DOESN'T MATTER.
ANYTHING THAT WASN'T THE TRUTH
MATTERED TO ROOSEVELT.
>> THIS IS THE SECOND IN YOUR
STRING OF GREAT DISCOVERIES OF
GREAT COURTROOM DRAMA.
>> WE HAVE A THIRD ONE COMING
TOO.
WE HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED WHAT IT IS
YET.
IT'S ANOTHER ONE WITH A
TRANSCRIPT.
ANOTHER GREAT CASE WHERE MOST
PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A
TRANSCRIPT.
>> AND THE TRANSCRIPT TAKES YOU
ON WHERE YOU NEED TO GO FOR THIS
JOURNEY.
IT'S GREAT HISTORY.
IT'S GREAT COURTROOM DRAMA.
WITH TEDDY ROOSEVELT AT THE
CENTER HOW COULD IT NOT BE
ENTERTAINING.
CONGRATULATIONS AND WE'LL GET
YOU BACK NOW ON THE NEXT ONE.
>> I APPRECIATE IT.
>> DAN'S GOING TO BE BACK HERE
TOMORROW NIGHT AS WE CONTINUE
OUR CONVERSATION THIS TIME
FOCUSING ON SOME OF THE
DEVELOPMENTS IN THE LEGAL
LANDSCAPE.
>>> DIZZY GILLESP ELLA FITZGERA
THE BOSS BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN.
MANY OF THEM PLAYED AT ASBURY
PARK.
ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THIS SHORE
TOWN'S MUSIC VENUES WERE
DAMAGED, SOME BURNED TO THE
GROUND LIKE IN NEWARK IN A
POWDER KEG OF RACIAL TENSIONS
THAT EXPLODED IN A RIOT, LEAVING
ASBURY PARK LITERALLY IN ASHES.
NOW THAT TOWN IS MAKING A
COMEBACK.
BUT IS THE MUSIC ALIVE AND WELL
AND HAS IT HEALED ITS RACIAL
DIVIDE?
THOSE QUESTIONS ARE EXPLORED IN
THE NEW DOCUMENTARY TITLED
"ASBURY PARK, RIOT, REDEMPTION,
ROCK 'N' ROLL."
HERE'S A CLIP.
>> ASBURY PARK WAS LIKE
DISNEYLAND.
>> THIS EXOTIC FEAST FOR THE
EYES AND EARS.
>> YOU JUST FLOATED A FOOT OFF
THE GROUND ALL DAY LONG LIFTED
BY THIS GREAT MUSIC.
>> THERE WAS A CERTAIN MOMENT IN
TIME WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENED
HERE THAT WASN'T HAPPENING ANY
PLACE ELSE.
THAT MATTERED.
>> ASBURY PARK'S MUSIC HISTORY
GOES WAY BACK.
>> THE TOP BLUES GUYS, BB KING.
>> THERE WAS AN EDUCATION TO BE
HAD.
>> YOU COULD CUT YOUR TEETH AND
TRY NEW IDEAS.
>> IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF
SOMETHING IMPORTANT.
>> THE JERSEY SOUND WHETHER IT
BE SOUTH SIDE JOHNNY OR BRUCE
SPRINGSTEEN, THAT JERSEY SOUND
IS DISTINCTIVELY AND UNIQUE HI
JERSEY.
>> JOINING ME NOW IS THE
DIRECTOR OF ASBURY PARK, A
FRIEND OF MINE FOR A LONG TIME
TOM JONES.
SO NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH US
TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THIS.
I WANT TO PREFACE THIS BY SAYING
I'M A JERSEY SHORE GUY.
GREW UP IN POINT PLEASANT BEACH,
A TEENAGER IN THE '60s.
ASBURY PARK WAS OUR MECCA, IT
WAS OUR DESTINATION.
I WENT TO CONVENTION HALL THERE
AND SAW ALL THOSE BANDS, THE
BEACH BOYS AND THE FOUR TOPS,
THE ROLLING STONES.
>> GREAT MEMORIES AND YOU WERE
THERE FOR THE BEST OF IT.
>> ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON
WHAT WE'VE JUST SEEN.
I'M GOING TO GET TO YOU IN A
MINUTE AS TO WHY YOU WANT TO DO
THE DOCUMENTARY.
LET'S SET THE STAGE FOR IT FIRST
AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT THE FOLKS
JUST SAID IN THE CLIP.
WHAT WAS ASBURY PARK?
>> IT WAS A REAL ASPIRATION
DESTINATION.
PRESIDENTS USED TO COME TO THE
JERSEY SHORE FOR SUMMER
VACATIONS, SEVEN PRESIDENTS.
AND LONG BRANCH WAS A SPOT.
AND OCEAN GROVE WAS A METHODIST
ENCAMPMENT.
AND THE FELLOW WHO FOUNDED
ASBURY PARK, JAMES BRADLEY, HE
WANTED A BUFFER BETWEEN OCEAN
GROVE AND LONG BRANCH.
HE BOUGHT ALL THE SAND IN
BETWEEN AND HE SET UP ASBURY
PARK AND HE SPENT ALL HIS MONEY
ON THAT SO HE NEEDED SOME SORT
OF A REVENUE SOURCE AND HE CHOSE
MUSIC.
ASBURY WAS A MUSIC MECCA.
ARTHUR PRIEN SET UP THE
BANDSTAND ON THE FIFTH STREET
ARCADE.
FROM THE ABSOLUTE VERY FIRST
DAYS, ASBURY PARK MUSIC WAS ITS
THING.
>> WE SET THE STAGE FOR WHAT IT
WAS LIKE.
WHAT THEN DREW YOU AS A
FILMMAKER TO WANT TO TELL THE
STORY IN A DOCUMENTARY.
>> WELL, WHEN I WAS IN HIGH
SCHOOL IT WAS POST RIOT SO IT
WAS REALLY ON ITS WAY DOWN.
MY SUMMER JOB WAS I WAS THE
PEPSI GUY.
I USED TO DELIVER PEPSI UP AND
DOWN THE BOARD WALK AND ALL
OTHER JERSEY.
MY SUMMER JOB WAS I WAS THE BEER
TRUCK GUY.
YOU WALK AROUND AND SAY HOW CAN
THIS BE, IT'S AN HOUR FROM YORK
AND IT'S REALLY ON ITS WAY DOWN.
I'VE ALWAYS HAD THIS DEEP LOVE
OF THE TOWN.
FLASH FORWARD A LIFETIME AND WE
HAD GIBSON GUITARS, THE CHAIRMAN
OF GIBSON GUITARS GOT A PICTURE
OF BRUCE PLAYING A GIBSON.
HE'S OBVIOUSLY FAMOUS FOR
PLAYING A FENDER.
A LITTLE HANDWRITTEN NOTE SAID,
WOULDN'T THIS BE GREAT, YOU
SHOULD TALL ME.
IT WAS TOM POTTER'S
GRANDDAUGHTER WHO HAD A
COLLECTION OF PICTURE NOS ONE
HAD SEEN IN OUR HOUSE IN WACO,
TEXAS.
WE LOOKED AT THE PICTURES AND I
SCANNED THEM FOR HER.
NEXT TIME I WAS IN ASBURY PARK,
I WENT TO WHERE THE CLUB HAD
BEEN.
IT WAS ON THE THIRD FLOOR ABOVE
THE TOM McCANN SHOE STORE.
>> I REMEMBER IT.
>> I TALKED TO THE GUY.
THEY WERE TURNING IT TO CONDOS.
WE ENTER UP THIS ENDLESS FLIGHT
OF STAIRS AND IT WAS STILL 1970.
NOTHING HAD HAPPENED SINCE THE
RIOT.
THE STAGE WAS STILL THERE, THE
DAYGLO PAINT WAS ON THE WALLS.
WE DIDN'T TOUCH A THING.
WE DID A SHOOT.
THAT'S WHAT REALLY GOT ME INTO
THE STORY.
BUT I JUST THINK IT'S A GREAT
PLACE TO TELL A STORY.
IT'S A METAPHOR FOR A LOT OF
OTHER THINGS.
MOST IMPORTANT HI FOR US IS THAT
MUSIC IS A CONNECTOR.
IT'S A TOWN SPLIT RIGHT DOWN THE
MIDDLE BY RAILROAD TRACKS.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
TALK ABOUT THEN THAT ERUPTION
THAT TOOK PLACE IN 1970.
>> IN THE FILM WE'RE PROUD THAT
WE TALKED TO MUSICIANS.
WE TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO WERE IN
THE RIOTS, NOT PEOPLE WHO COVER
THE RIOTS.
TO A PERSON, THEY CAN'T REALLY
TELL YOU WHY IT HAPPENED.
THE POT JUST BOILED OVER.
BOOM CARTER WHO WAS ONE OF
BRUCE'S EARLY DRUMMERS, HE LIVED
RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO NICKY ADDIO.
BOOM'S FATHER WAS THE GREAT
PHOTOGRAPHER OF THE WEST SIDE.
NICKY'S FAMILY LIVED RIGHT NEXT
DOOR.
BOTH OF THEM H SAY THEY FEEL IT
WAS OUTSIDE AGITATORS CAME DOWN.
>> NEWARK HAD ERUPTED IN RIOTS
BEFORE THAT.
>> NOT TOO LONG BEFORE.
A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE THAT.
>> THEY TALK ABOUT GUYS COMING
DOWN FROM NEWARK.
WHO KNOWS.
IT WAS RIPE FOR THAT SORT OF A
PROBLEM.
THE WEST SIDE HAD A GREAT
CULTURE.
IT WAS A GREAT MUSIC DESTINATION
TO ITSELF.
IT WAS THE STOP ON THE WAY
BETWEEN PHILLY AND NEW YORK.
BIG BILLS.
>> THE ORCHID LOUNGE, CUPID'S.
>> I'VE BEEN SOME OF THOSE
PLACES.
SO MUCH OF THE DAMAGE HAPPENED
ON THE WEST SIDE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> WHAT WAS IT THEN THAT STARTED
THE RESURRECTION OF ASBURY PARK?
>> FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT SANK
TO AN ALMOST INDESCRIBABLE LEVEL
AND THINGS BECAME VERY
AFFORDABLE.
THE HIGH SCHOOL HAD TO BE TAKEN
OVER BY THE STATE.
A JEWEL IN THE CROWN OF SCHOOLS
IN NEW JERSEY --
>> AND THE PHYSICAL PLANT IS
STILL SO IMPRESSIVE.
THE STADIUM IS LIKE A LITTLE BIT
OF THE 20s.
REALITY BECAME VERY AFFORDABLE.
THE BONES OF THOSE GREATHOUSES
WERE STILL THERE, BOUGHT THEM
FOR A SONG.
>> WONDERFUL RESTAURANTS
STARTED.
>> AND THEN BUSINESSES STARTED.
IT'S A.
>> Reporter: ORGVERY ORGANIC
DEVELOPMENT.
IT WAS A GREAT PLACE FOR SOME
PEOPLE.
FOR EVERYBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE TRACKS, NOT SO MUCH SO.
NOW YOU CAN COME BACK AND
EVERYONE CAN COME UP AT THE SAME
TIME.
THERE WAS A REAL CONSCIOUS
THOUGHT PROCESS GOING ON BEHIND
THAT NOW.
>> THERE'S A GREAT FACILITY
THERE CALLED THE LAKE HOUSE.
IT WAS FASCINATING WHAT THEY'D
DONE.
DESCRIBE WHAT THEY'RE DOING
THERE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A WORLD
CLASS RECORDING FACILITY.
IT'S GOT A VERY SPECIFIC SOUND.
THE GUY WHO STARTED IT LOVES
AND FOUND MIXING BOARDS.
IF YOU WANT TO RECORD THAT
SOUND, THAT'S THE PLACE TO GO
ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
ON A PROFESSIONAL LEVEL IT'S
FANTASTIC.
JOHN AND HIS RIGHT HAND ARE
COMPLETELY DEVOTED TO THE
COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE RUNNING OUR OUTREACH
PROGRAMS BRINGING MUSIC TO KIDS
THAT OTHERWISE WOULDN'T GET IT.
SO THE FILM FESTIVAL NAUNDS AND
THE PROCEEDS OF OUR MOVIE GO TO
FUND THAT.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT A
VIRTUOUS CIRCLE.
>> ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO RECONNECT
HERE.
JUST A WONDERFUL JOB PUTTING
THIS TOGETHER.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
THOROUGHLY ENJOY IT.
>> THANKS.
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>>> TOYS.
THEY HAVE A BIGGER IMPACT ON
YOUR CHILD'S FUTURE THAN YOU MAY
KNOW.
THEY MAY NOT ONLY BE A SOURCE OF
FUN.
THEY MAY ALSO BE AN INTEGRAL
PART OF OUR GENDER DEVELOPMENT.
JOINING US IS A PSYCHOLOGIST AND
GENDER STUDY PROCESS IF HE IS
S
PROFESSOR AT MONMOUTH
UNIVERSITY.
LET'S START OFF WITH THAT BIGGER
PICTURE.
WHY WOULD THEY HAVE AN IMPACT ON
GENDER DEVELOPMENT.
>> SO GENDER DEVELOPMENT IS
SOMETHING THAT IS DEVELOPING
WITH CHILDREN FROM A REALLY
YOUNG AGE.
AND SO AS KIDS ARE PLAYING WITH
TOYS, THEY'RE LEARNING LESSONS
ABOUT WHAT SOCIETY THINKS IS FOR
THEM AND NOT FOR THEM BASED ON
THEIR GENDER.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT KIDS ARE
PLAYING WITH TOYS AND AS THEY'RE
ENGAGING WITH THESE TOYS,
THEY'RE LEARNING OTHER LESSONS
SUCH AS ACADEMIC SKILLS.
SO RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT TOYS
SUCH AS PUZZLES AND BROLOCKS AN
NUMBER GAMES ARE REALLY TEACHING
KIDS THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF
MATHEMATICS AND THOSE ARE THE
BUILDING BLOCKS FOR LATER
LEARNINGS IN SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY
ENGINEERING AND MATHEMATICS.
BUT T SEA SETS ARE THINGS THAT
KIDS ARE USING TO LEARN HOW TO
SHARE AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
THEY'RE ALSO LEARNING COGNITIVE
SERIES OF EVENTS.
THEY'RE ALL REALLY IMPORTANT.
>> LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT
BECAUSE SO MUCH OF YOUR RESEARCH
HAS BEEN -- IN TERMS OF THE TOYS
AND TWO THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU
TO TALK ABOUT.
THE FIRST IS TOYS THAT ARE
DESIGNATED BOYS TOYS AS OPPOSED
TO GILRLS TOYS AND THEN THE
NOTION OF THE COLOR OF THOSE
TOYS.
START OFF WITH GIRL'S TOYS
VERSUS BOY'S TOYS.
>> SOCIETY THINKS OF TOYS AS
BEING EITHER FOR GIRLS OR BOYS.
THE TOY COMPANIES HAVE STARTED
DESIGNATING THOSE BY ADDING
COLORS TO THEM.
SO KNOW THAT DOLLS ARE
OFTENTIMES PINK AND TRUCKS AND
SWORDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE
OFTENTIMES BLUE.
IT'S DESIGNED TO BE ABLE TO HELP
PEOPLE KNOW WHICH TYPES OF TOYS
THEY SHOULD BUY FOR KIDS AND
WHICH ONES THEY SHOULDN'T.
>> TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME
OF YOUR STUDIES AND SOME OF THE
RESEARCH THAT YOU'VE DONE AND
SOME OF THE INTERESTING THINGS
YOU'VE FOUND IN TERMS OF IF YOU
CHANGE COLORS FOR INSTANCE, IF
YOU USE NEUTRAL COLORS, THE
REACTION THE CHILDREN HAVE TO
THE VARIOUS TOYS.
>> SO THE IDEA THAT THERE ARE
COLORS AND CATEGORIES OF TOYS IS
WHAT'S REALLY CONCERNING TO ME
AND OTHER RESEARCHERS AS WELL.
MY COLLEAGUES AND I REALLY
WANTED TO SEE WHETHER THE COLOR
OF THE TOY IMPACTS CHILDREN'S
INTEREST IN THE TOYS.
WE GOT TOGETHER AND WE DID A
STUDY WHERE WE BOUGHT TWO OF
EVERY TOY AND WE PAINTED SOME OF
THEM PINK AND WE PAINTED SOME OF
THEM BLUE BUT THEY'RE THE SAME
EXACT TOYS.
WHEN WE GAVE KIDS THESE TOYS WE
REALIZED IT WASN'T REALLY THE
TOY CHAFS DRIVING THEIR
INTEREST.
IT WAS ACTUALLY THE COLOR.
GIRLS WERE MORE INTERESTED IN
T
BOY'S TOYS WHEN THEY WERE
APPELLANTED PINK.
WE KNOW THEIR INTEREST WAS BEING
IMPACTED BY THESE SUBTLE LABELS,
THESE LITTLE CUES ABOUT THE TOY.
IT WAS REALLY ABOUT SHOULD I
PLAY WITH THIS TOY OR SHOULD I
NOT.
>> SO THE GIRL WOULD HAVE AS
MUCH FUN PLAYING WITH THE TRUCK,
THE BIG MONSTER TRUCKS IF IT WAS
PAINTED PINK.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE FOUND.
>> WERE YOU SURPRISED AT FINDING
THOSE THINGS?
>> I THINK WE KIND OF HAD A
HUNCH THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING
TO HAPPEN.
WE SAW THE SAME WAS TRUE FOR
BOYS.
IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO THE LEVEL
THAT IT HAPPENED FOR GIRLS.
BUT WE WERE SURPRISED BY HOW
MUCH IT IMPACTED KIDS' INTEREST.
THAT'S ACTUALLY CONCERNING TO US
BECAUSE WE'RE USING COLORS IN A
WAY THAT'S CHANGING KIDS
BEHAVIORS.
REMEMBER I SAID BEFORE THAT
EVERY TOY TEACHES A SKILL AND SO
IF KIDS ARE ONLY PLAYING WITH
HALF OF THE TOYS BASED ON THEIR
COLOR, THEY'RE NOT LEARNING THE
SKILLS THAT THE OTHER TOYS THAT
ARE APPELLANTED THE COLOR THAT
ISN'T FOR THEIR GENDER.
AND WE WANT KIDS TO LEARN ALL OF
THE LESSONS.
EVERY PARENT WANTS THEIR CHILD
TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A BROAD
VARIETY OF SKILLS, TO BE ABLE TO
HAVE ACADEMIC SKILLS THAT ARE
DIVERSE AND WE WANT THEM TO HAVE
FUN.
IF THEY'RE ONLY PLAYING WITH
HALF THE TOYS, THEN THEY'RE ONLY
HAVING HALF THE FUN.
>> WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU
HAD THE TOYS PAINTED A NEUTRAL
COLOR.
NO PINKS, NO BLUES.
>> WE TALK ALL OR OUR TOYS AND
PAINTED THEM WHITE WITH THE GOAL
OF REMOVING THAT LABELING OR
THAT RULE THAT THE TOYS SHOULD
BE OR SHOULDN'T BE FOR THEM.
WHEN WE LAID THEM ALL OUT AND WE
SAID YOU CAN PLAY WITH ANYTHING
THAT YOU WANT, EACH CHILD GOT A
CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH
ANY TOY THAT THEY WANTED
INDIVIDUALLY WITHOUT ANYONE
REALLY WATCHING THEM.
WE SAW THAT KIDS CHOSE THE
NEUTRAL TOYS.
THEY CHOSE A DIFFERENT SET OF
TOYS THAN THEY HAD TOLD US
PREVIOUSLY.
BECAUSE WE HAD SAID TO THEM
BEFORE WE STARTED WHAT TYPES OF
TOYS DO YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH.
AND THE GIRLS SAID WE WANT TO
PLAY WITH GIRLS TOYS AND THE
BOYS SAID WE WANT TO PLAY WITH
THE BOYS TOYS.
BUT WHEN WE REDUCED THAT ROLE
FOR THEM, THEY ACTUALLY EXPLORED
IN A MUCH BROADER WAY.
>> THEY WEREN'T LIMITED BY THE
LIMITATIONS WE HAD IMPOSED UPON
THEM IN SOME WAY.
IT'S FASCINATING RESEARCH AND
REALLY IMPORTANT RESEARCH AND I
THINK HELPFUL RESEARCH FOR ALL
OF US.
>> SOTHANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> "METROFOCUS" IS MADE POSSIBLE
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Funders

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