METROFOCUS: APRIL 18, 2019

Easter Sunday arrives along with a fare increase for riders of our city’s subways and buses. We have the details. Plus, a mother and her daughters are hoping their marijuana harvest helps them achieve their American dream. And, it’s been 20 years since the massacre at  Columbine, yet the school shootings continue. A look for answers and possible solutions. Also, it was 30 years ago that a young woman was brutally raped and left for dead. The Central Park Five were arrested, convicted and served significant time for that crime. We’re re-opening the files on a case that rocked the nation.

Aired on April 18, 2019.

 

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> TONIGHT ON 'METROFOCUS,' FORGET CHOCOLATE BUT NOTTIES AND PAINTED EGGS.

EASTER SUNDAY ARRIVES WITH A GIFT THIS YEAR IN THE FORM OF A IRIF A INCREASE FOR RIDERS OF THE SUBWAYS AND BUSES.

WOMEN AND WEED.

FIND OUT HOW ONE MOTHER AND DAUGHTER HAVE TEAMED UP FOR THEIR AMERICAN DREAM.

IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS SINCE THE MASSACRE AT COLUMBINE OCCURRED.

YET WE ARE STILL PLAGUED BY DEADLY SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND MASS GUN VIOLENCE.

IN MOMENTS, A LOOK BACK AT THAT HORRIBLE DAY NOW SEARED INTO AMERICA'S HISTORY.

AND 'THE NEW YORK TIMES' IS CALLING IT ONE OF THE MOST PUBLICIZED CRIMES OF THE 1980s.

30 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK A YOUNG WOMAN OUT FOR A RUN IN CENTRAL PARK WAS BRUTALLY RAPED, BEATEN AND LEFT FOR DEAD.

FIVE MEN OF COLOR WERE ARRESTED, CONVICTED AND SERVED SIGNIFICANT TIME FOR THAT CRIME.

YET, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THEY WERE ALL INNOCENT.

IN MOMENTS, WE'RE REOPENING THE FILES ON THE CENTRAL PARK JOGGER CASE THAT ROCKED THE NATION.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS

> 'METROFOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

'METROFOCUS' IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH, SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III, THE SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM.

BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ, ROSALIND P. WALTER, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, AND BY --

> GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME TO 'METROFOCUS.'

BIG CHANGES ARE COMING FOR THE MILLIONS OF NEW YORKERS WHO DEPEND ON THE CITY TRANSIT SYSTEM.

TO BEGIN WITH, RIDING THE SUBWAY BUS OR TRAIN IS ABOUT TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE LATEST ROUND OF MTA FARE HIKES WILL KICK IN THIS WEEKEND.

FOR L TRAIN RIDERS, THAT MEANS THEY'RE ABOUT TO GET LESS FOR MORE SINCE NEXT WEEK MARKS THE OFFICIAL START OF THE MUCH ANTICIPATED PARTIAL L TRAIN SHUTDOWN.

AND PERHAPS THE BIGGEST CHANGE OF ALL, METRO CARS WILL SOON BE A THING OF THE PAST AS THE CITY BEGINS ROLLING OUT A NEW PAYMENT SYSTEM THAT WILL EVENTUALLY PLACE THE YELLOW CARS THAT HAVE BEEN IN USE FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS.

JOINING US TO SORT IT ALL OUT, THE A.M. NEW YORK REPORTER.

LET'S GET TO IT.

WHAT ARE THE FARE HIKES AND WHO WILL IT HIT THE WORST?

RIGHT.

SO THIS IS PART OF THE BIENNIAL FARE HIKES THEY'VE BEEN DOING FOR A DECADE.

THE MONTHLY CARD WILL GO UP FROM $121 TO $127.

THE WEEKLY CARD WILL GO UP TO $33.

THE BASE FARE, $2.75, WILL STAY THE SAME ALBEIT WITHOUT THE PURCHASING BONUS.

THAT'S A BIG BONUS.

IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR A SWIPE, THAT WILL HIT YOU HARD.

WE REMEMBER THE EXPOSE THAT 'THE NEW YORK TIMES' DID A COUPLE YEARS AGO ABOUT THE SUBWAY SYSTEM.

AND I THINK IT MADE IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE PROBLEM WASN'T SO MUCH THE REVENUES AS THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THE REVENUES, AS THE EXPENDITURES.

PARTICULARLY IN LABOR AND MANAGEMENT.

AS THESE FARE HIKES COME TO BE, I THINK, ON EASTER SUNDAY.

DID ANYBODY DEAL WITH THE EXPENDITURES?

RIGHT.

THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM WITH THE MTA, THE MANAGEMENT WITH.

THESE HIKES, THEY'RE SORT OF PROMISING THAT THEY'LL GET THEIR ACTING TOGETHER.

THEY HAVE A HIRING FREEZE GOING ON.

THEY'RE TRYING TO CUT $500 MILLION FROM THE VARIOUS AGENCIES.

THEY'RE FACING SIGNIFICANT BUDGET CUTS.

EVEN WITH THESE HIKES GOING INTO EFFECT IN THE OFF YEARS.

THEY'RE SAYING IT IS JUST TO KEEP IT GOING.

IT BASICALLY STAVES OFF SERIOUS CUTS.

THEY'RE STILL REALLY STRUGGLING.

THIS IS A HUGE CHALLENGE FOR THE MTA.

EVEN WITH THE INFLUX OF CASH FROM CONGESTION PRICING AND ALL THAT, THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE OPERATING SIDE OF THINGS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE L TRAIN REPAIRS.

THEY'RE BEGINNING FOR REAL IN A WEEK.

YOU'VE WRITTEN ABOUT THE ANXIETY PEOPLE ARE FEELING ABOUT THAT.

TALK ABOUT IT.

A BIT OF A DOUBLE WHAMMY.

WE'RE NOT HAVING A FULL L TRAIN.

IT SHUT DOWN.

WE'RE DOING A PARTIAL SHUTDOWN ON NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS SO TRAINS WILL BE RUNNING EVERY 20 MINUTES OVERNIGHT, STARTING, RAMPING DOWN AT 8:00 P.M. AND ALL THROUGH THE WEEKEND.

THAT CAN BE A SIGNIFICANT SERVICE DECLINE FOR THE WEEKEND, ESPECIALLY WHEN THROUGH UNION SQUARE, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE TRAINS RUNNING EVERY FOUR OR SIX MINUTES DURING THE WEEKEND.

SO WHEN THE L TRAIN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CLOSED DOWN COMPLETELY FOR 15 MONTHS, THERE WERE THESE MITIGATING PLANS THAT WERE IN THE WORKS LIKE DEDICATED LANE ON 14th STREET FOR BUSES ONLY.

MORE TRAINS FOR OTHER LINES THAT L TRAIN USERS MIGHT USE.

ARE THEY STILL IN PLACE?

SOME OF THEM ARE.

SO THE SUBWAY, THE SUBWAY ENHANCEMENTS ARE STILL IN PLACE.

YOU WILL SEE IT BOOSTED.

THE BUS SERVICE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A QUESTION MARSHALL.

THE MTA WILL IMPROVE THE BUS SERVICE ON 14 STREET.

THE BUS SERVICE IS IN LIMBO.

IT WAS QUIETLY MOTH BALLED.

IT WASN'T REALLY NECESSARY.

ALTHOUGH THE ADVOCATES KIND OF DISAGREE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MOVE OVERNIGHT.

THE PROBLEM WITH THE L TRAIN, OR MAYBE A GOOD THING ABOUT THE L TRAIN, IT SERVES PEOPLE ALL THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

PEOPLE ARE TAKING IT THROUGH THE DAY.

OVERNIGHT.

SO THERE IS REALLY A CHALLENGE 24/7.

WE HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT.

TALK ABOUT THE NEW PAYMENT SYSTEM IN THE WORKS.

WHEN WILL IT START?

WHEN WILL WE SAY GOODBYE FOREVER TO THE YELLOW CARD?

RIGHT.

SO THE METRO CARD WILL BE AROUND UNTIL 2023.

SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PAY WITH THAT.

THE NEW FARE PAYMENT SYSTEM WHICH USES THE CONTACT LISTS, BANK CARDS, EVENTUALLY IT WILL USE A MOBILE APP.

THAT WILL START WITH A VERY SMALL PILOT ON THE LEXINGTON AVENUE LINE AT THE END OF NEXT MONTH.

ABOUT 16 STATIONS FROM BARCLAY CENTER.

THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE, THOSE RIDERS WILL BE ABLE TO USE A BANK CARD TO TAP IN.

INSTEAD OF HAVING TO WAIT IN LINE.

ULTIMATELY, IT WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR NEW FARE PAYMENT POLICIES LIKE FARE CAPPING WHERE THEY DECIDED TO BUY A MONTHLY OR DAILY OR WEEKLY METRO CARD.

THE MTA CAN SIMPLY TAP THE FARES IF THEY WERE IN CERTAIN TIMES IN THE MONTH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WE'LL SEE HOW THIS ALL WORKS OUT.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

> CANNABIS.

IT'S A BURGEONING NEW INDUSTRY THAT SOME SAY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CHANGE THE WAY WE TREAT AILMENTS AND REVOLUTIONIZE THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY.

WITH NEW BUSINESS COMES NEW PROBLEMS.

WHILE LAWMAKERS IN ALBANY HAVE LOOKED AT WHETHER OR NOT TO MAKE RECREATIONAL USE LEGAL, ONE ORGANIZATION, WOMEN GROW, WANTS TO MAKE SURE THE INDUSTRY DOESN'T BECOME ANOTHER MALE DOMINATED BUSINESS.

THEY'RE PROVIDING SUPPORT TO WOMEN ENTREPRENEURS SO THERE WON'T BE A GLASS CEILING TO BREAK LATER ON.

WE WANT TO SEE MORE WOMEN IN THE FOREFRONT OF THIS INDUSTRY.

WE'RE LOOKING TO CULTIVATE BUSINESS LEADERS WHO ARE GOING TO EITHER LEAD OUR BUSINESSES, COME UP WITH YOUR NEXT ENTREPRENEURIAL SUCCESSFUL PHASE.

WHO ARE LOOKING TO PERHAPS HOLD SEAT ON THESE CORPORATE BOARDS THAT ARE ESTABLISHING THEMSELVES IN THE INDUSTRY.

THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF WOMEN GROW, A PROFESSIONAL NETWORKING ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO EMPOWERING AND INSPIRING WOMEN INTERESTED IN THE BURGEONING CANNABIS INDUSTRY.

SO HERE WE ARE.

WE HAVE THE BRAND NEW INDUSTRY THAT IS JUST MATURING NOW.

RIGHT?

WE'RE AT THE INFANCY STAGE.

WHY NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUES WE ALREADY SEE?

WE SEE MEN AT THE FOREFRONT.

AND HONESTLY, WE SEE MORE WHITE MEN AT THE FOREFRONT.

AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WOMEN AT THE FOREFRONT.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR SOCIETY ACROSS THE BOARD BE REFLECTED IN THE INDUSTRY.

ONE COMPANY THAT EMBODIES FEMALE DRIVES IN THE CANNABIS BUSINESS IS NEW YORK STATE'S ONLY FEMALE OWNED MEDICAL MARIJUANA LICENSEE.

THE COMPANY HAS DISPENSARIES ACROSS THE STATE AND THE PRODUCTION FACILITY IS LOCATED IN CHESTERTOWN IN THE SOUTH EASTERN ADIRONDACKS.

IT WAS FOUNDED BY THREATEN MEMBERS OF THE PECKHAM FAMILY.

I THINK PARTICULARLY IN THE MEDICAL MARINE INDUSTRY, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE WOMEN REPRESENTATION.

WOMEN ARE OFTEN THE CARE TAKERS.

AFTER WATCHING HER MOM CARE FOR A DYING GRANDPARENT, IT WAS A DOCTOR WHO SUGGESTED THE PECKHAMS CONSIDER MEDICAL MARIJUANA AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO ALLEVIATE ALL THE SIDE EFFECTS FOR MULTIPLE PHARMACEUTICAL PRESCRIPTIONS.

BUT HILLARY AND HER MOM KNEW, IF THEY WERE GOING TO START A COMPANY, THEY WANTED TO KEEP WOMEN AT THE FOREFRONT.

IT SHOULD BE MORE THAN JUST 1 IN 10 AS A WOMEN-OWNED COMPANY.

I THINK MORE WOMEN ARE TRYING TO GET INVOLVED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOT COM BOOM, IT LOOKED LIKE WOMEN WOULD GET INVOLVED AND THAT WAS A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT WASN'T WHERE A LOT OF THE INITIAL SKILL SET, OR THE INVESTMENT COULD COME SO WOMEN ARE NOT REPRESENT IN TECH.

NOT ONLY IS THE FOCUS ON THE MEDICAL USE OF CANNABIS, THE COMPANY IS KEEPING AN EYE ON THE DEVELOPING RECREATIONAL LEGISLATION.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE NEW YORK IS AT LEAST CONSIDERING THE POSSIBILITY OF LEGALIZING MARIJUANA USE FOR EVERYONE IN THE STATE.

AND WE'RE DEFINITELY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY.

AND AS A COMPANY, WE'RE VERY PASSIONATE.

NO MATTER WHAT DIVISION MEDICAL OR OUR ADULT USE, THAT PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE AND HIGH QUALITY CANNABIS.

AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS REGULATED IN A WAY THAT THE CONSUMER IS PROTECTED.

ON THIS SIDE, THERE IS A MESH FILTER.

WALKING THROUGH THE UPSTATE FACILITY, HILLARY SHOWS OFF THE NURSERY AND GREENHOUSE.

THESE MANHUNTS O, THESE PLAN ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE CYCLE.

YOU WILL SEE THESE ONES I SHOWED YOU.

THEY ARE MUCH SMALLER.

THEY START TO PRODUCE THIS.

THESE AREAS HERE, THEY HAVE THE HIGHEST CONTENT OFWHAT WE EXTRA OUT OF THE PLANT.

ONCE THEY REACH THE FINAL STAGE, WE HARVEST THEM AND WE TAKE BUD OFF OF THEM AND THEN THAT IS DRIED AND PUT INTO WHAT WE CALL THE PACKET.

SO YOU WILL TAKE A SAMPLE HERE AND THIS IS NOT READY YET FOR EXTRACTION.

BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT IT IS FILLED WITH BUDS.

IT IS COMPLETELY DRIED.

AND THEN IT IS GROUND AND MADE INTO THESE EXTRACTION PACKS THAT ALLOW FOR US TO GET MORE MERCURIAL INTO OUR MACHINE TO GET ALL THE OIL OUT AND START TO DO SOME PRODUCTS.

EACH TEAM PRODUCES OIL EXTRACTIONS INTO DIFFERENT FORMS AND THEY ARE ARRANGED BY THEIR THC OR CBD LEVELS.

SHE REMEMBERS WHAT IT WAS LIKE AS IT FIRST GOT OFF THE GROUND.

WE WOULD WALK INTO A MEETING.

IT WAS MALE DOMINATED AND NO ONE WAS LOOKING AT THEM.

THEY WERE SPEAKING WITH ME.

FIRST I CAN TELL YOU AS A YOUNG WOMAN, IT HAS BEEN MUCH HARDER, I THINK FOR ME THAN MALE PEERS TO GAIN RESPECT AND GET JUST INVESTMENT MONEY.

I'LL BE TALKING TO THEM AND THEY SAY THINGS LIKE, OH, YOU'RE SURE SPUNKY.

HAVE YOU TALKED TO JOHN DOE OVER HERE?

HE SEEMS LIKE A REAL BUSINESSMAN.

IT IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF BUSINESS WOMEN GROW WANTS TO SEE MORE OF.

AS MORE STATES MOVE TOWARD MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION.

TO ENSURE MORE WOMEN ARE ABLE TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS, THEY SAY WOMEN GROW INTENTIONALLY ADDRESSES START-UP ISSUES LIKE LICENSING, LEGAL ADVICE, ADVERTISING AND THE ALL IMPORTANT START-UP INGREDIENT, CAPITAL.

YOU CAN'T GET A LOAN IN THE CANNABIS INDUSTRY.

AS OF RIGHT NOW IT IS STILL FEDERALLY ILLEGAL.

SO THE FUNDING AND THE CAPITAL TO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES REALLY HAS TO COME FROM PRIVATE INVESTMENTS.

AND THIS IS WHERE WOMEN STRUGGLE.

BOTH AGREE THAT NEW YORK IS IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO MAKE ITS LEGISLATION FOR LEGALIZATION FAIR AND EQUITABLE TO ALL.

FOR HILLARY, THAT STARTS WITH EQUAL ACCESS TO CAPITAL AND SUPPORT TO GROW.

AS YOU SEE MORE STANDARDIZED INVESTMENT, I THINK IT WILL BE EVEN MORE MALE DOMINATED.

WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WOMEN GET INVOLVED NOW.

THAT WOULD HELP MAKE SURE THERE IS A VOICE THAT CARRIES.

WE'RE TRYING EXPAND NATIONALLY.

WE JUST GOT LICENSED IN CALIFORNIA.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO KEEP GROWING THE COMPANY AND SETTING THE GOAL OF ALWAYS BEING WOMEN OWNED AND ALWAYS HAVING WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP.

FOR 'METROFOCUS.'

I'M JENA FLANNIGAN.

> 1999, ON THAT DAY, TWO HEAVILY ARMED STUDENTS, ERIC HARRIS AND DYLAN KLEBOLD WALKED INTO THEIR HIGH SCHOOL AND KILLED 13 PEOPLE BEFORE TURNING THEIR GUNS ON THEMSELVES.

IT IS NOW FOREVER SEARED INTO THE NATION'S PSYCHE AS IS THE NAME OF THE SCHOOL BY WHICH THE MASSACRE WILL ALWAYS BE KNOWN.

COLUMBINE.

IT WAS AT THE TIME THE DEADLIEST SCHOOL SHOOTING IN AMERICA'S HISTORY BUT SINCE THEN, THERE HAS BEEN A PROLIFERATION OF MASS SLAUGHTERS, SOME OF THEM COMMITTED BY THE COLUMBINE KILLERS.

WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED SINCE COLUMBINE IS THIS WHY DO MASS SHOOTINGS CONTINUE IN THIS COUNTRY?

WHAT HAPPENS TO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF THESE EVENTS WHEN THE TV CAMERAS GO AWAY?

COULD THINGS REALLY CHANGE AFTER PARKLAND?

JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT ALL THIS, THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK, COLUMBINE, WIDELY CONSIDERED THE DEFINITIVE HISTORY OF THE COLUMBINE SHOOTING.

DAVE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

NOW, DAVE, WHAT ARE THE CHIEF LESSONS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED FROM COLUMBINE AND HAVE WE BY AND LARGE LEARNED THEM?

WELL, THERE ARE LESSONS AND WE'VE GOTTEN EITHER AN 'A' OR AN 'F.'

THE COPS HAVE COMPLETELY CHANGED THEIR TACTICS.

SCHOOLS HAVE CREATED LOCKDOWN DRILLS AND TRAINED TEACHERS AND STUDENTS FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS, ADDED ALL SORTS OF SECURITY MEASURES.

I WOULD GIVE AN 'A' ON THAT.

IN TERMS OF GETTING THE TEACHERS AND ESPECIALLY STUDENTS TO BE AWARE, IN THE SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING IDEA, AND KIDS REPORTING THEM TO FOIL THINGS BEFORE THEY HAPPEN, ALSO DOING FANTASTIC.

MANY MORE ARE FOILED NOW THAN ACTUALLY GO THROUGH.

BUT THEN A COUPLE OTHER AREAS WHERE WE'VE FAILED MISERABLY.

AND MOST OF THESE TURN OUT TO BE, THE VAST MAJORITY TURN OUT TO BE SUICIDALLY DEPRESSED KIDS.

THEY REALLY START FUNDAMENTALLY AS A SUICIDE WHICH BECOMES AN AGGRESSIVE HOMICIDE AS WELL.

SO THE ISSUE IS TEEN DEPRESSION AND EVEN SCREENING FOR TEEN DEPRESSION.

WE HAVE DONE ZERO.

SO THAT'S APPALLING.

WE GET AN 'F' THERE.

MAYBE WORST OF ALL IS THE GUNS ISSUE.

WHERE THESE ONLY HAPPEN AFTER THE MASSIVE NUMBERS BECAUSE OF GUNS.

NOT ONLY AN 'F.'

WE'VE ACTUALLY RETREATED.

AT THE TIME OF COLUMBINE, THERE WAS AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN WHICH HAS EXPIRED.

SO WE'VE MADE ZERO PROGRESS AND WE'VE GONE BACKWARDS.

LET'S TURN TO THE MEDIA.

AS YOU KNOW, SOME CRITICS ARGUE THAT THE MEDIA IS IN SOME WAY, COMPLICIT WITH THESE KILLINGS.

BECAUSE AT LEAST PART OF MOTIVATION IS TO GET WIDE ATTENTION AND THEY KNOW THEY WILL, AFTER THE EVENT, FROM 24/7 COVERAGE IN THE MEDIA.

WOULD YOU GO THAT FAR?

I THINK THE MEDIA IS TOTALLY COMPLICIT.

WHEN YOU SEE THESE KILLERS, THEY'RE LASHING OUT.

IT IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT SEEKING FAME OR NOTORIETY.

IT IS MORE A DESIRE TO BE HEARD AND TO FEEL POWERFUL.

NEARLY ALL OF THEM FEEL HELPLESS AND HOPELESS.

THEY FEEL EXCLUDED AND KIND OF PATHETIC.

SO THEY'RE AT THE END OF THEIR ROPE.

AND THEY'RE JUST LITERALLY DYING FOR ATTENTION.

TO FEEL POWERFUL AND TO FEEL HEARD.

SO WE IN THE MEDIA GIVE THEM THE MICROPHONE.

THE POWER, THE FOUR TO FIVE DAYS OF GLORY WHERE THEY'RE THE BIGGEST STAR IN THE WORLD.

SO WE ARE HANDING THAT TO HELP.

PARKLAND REALLY FIT THAT SCRIPT.

EVERYONE KNOWS THEM.

BECAUSE THEY MADE THEMSELVES MORE INTERESTING THAN THE KILLER.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE KILLER'S NAME IS.

SO PERHAPS THEY'VE CREATED A TEMPLATE WHERE OTHER SURVIVORS FOLLOW IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS AND DO THE SAME THING.

NOW MAYBE THE VICTIMS WILL BE MORE INTERESTING THAN THE KILLERS AND WE'VE DIMINISHED THE KILLERS.

INSTEAD OF THE MEDIA DOING IT, MAYBE THE SURVIVORS CAN DO IT.

THEY'VE SEEN SO MUCH LESS TRAUMATIZED.

THE COLUMBINE VICTIMS, IT WAS SUCH A LEFT HOOK, RIGHT HOOK OUT OF NOWHERE.

IT WAS ATTE IT WAS TANTAMOUNT TO ALIENS ATTACKING.

IT WAS SHOOTERING THE WORLD VIEW OF WHAT WAS SAFE AND WHAT DANGERS WERE OUT THERE AND THINGS THEY HAD NEVER CONSIDERED.

SO THAT WAS JUST THIS UNTHINKABLE THING THAT HAPPENED AND SHATTERED THE WORLD VIEW.

WITH PARKLAND, THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH IT THAT WAY.

IT WAS MORE LIKE, A HORRIBLE FIRE HAD COME TO THE SCHOOL.

I SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY DID FIRE DRILLS, LOCK DOWN DRILLS.

THESE ARE KNOWN THROUGHOUT THE BEST PART OF THE WORLD.

A LOCKDOWN DRILL.

THEY KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN TO SOMEONE AND NOW IT HAPPEN TO US.

SO WHEN IT SWEPT THROUGH, IT WOULD BE AWFUL.

FRIENDS ARE DEAD BUT FIRES HAPPEN.

IT DIDN'T SHATTER OUR WORLD VIEW THAT THERE WAS A FIRE.

NOW, TO TAKE THAT ANALOGY A LITTLE FURTHER, IF THERE WERE ONGOING FIRES BECAUSE BUILDINGS WERE BEING IGNORED, AND WE COULD DO SOMETHING AND WE WERE NOT, AND WE WERE LETTING KIDS DIE BY ALL THESE FIRES, THAT IS WHAT THIS IS HERE.

THERE IS THIS KNOWN THREAT.

ALL WE DO IS PLAN FOR AFTER SOMEBODY IS SHOOTING SOMEBODY.

AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO STOP THE PROBLEM SO THESE KIDS, THEY GREW ONE THIS KNOWN THREAT BUT REALLY PISSED OFF.

WHY IS THERE THIS THREAT AND YOU'RE LETTING US DIE.

YOU'RE CHOOSING TO LET YOUR KIDS DIE.

AND IT MAY BE YOUR KIDS NEXT, WHO KNOWS?

BUT SOME OF US WILL DIE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

AN IMPORTANT TOPIC.

APPRECIATE IT.

> MAYOR ED KOCH CALLED AT THIS TIME CRIME OF THE CENTURY ON.

APRIL 19, 1989, A YOUNG FEMALE JOGGER WAS BRUTALLY BEATEN AND RAPED IN CENTRAL PARK.

WITHIN DAYS, FIVE TEENAGERS WERE ARRESTED AND CONFESSED TO THE CRIME.

THEY BECAME KNOWN AS THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE.

AND THE CRIME AND THEIR SUBSEQUENT TRIAL BOTH RIVETED AND DIVIDED THE CITY.

NOW, 30 YEARS LATER, AFTER THE ORANGE CRIME, THE MEMORY OF THE MEDIA FRENZY OVER THE CENTRAL PARK JOGGER CASE REMAINS A FLASH POINT FOR THOSE WHO LIVED IT.

JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THAT MOMENT IN TIME IN NEW YORK HISTORY, MARVIN SCOTT WHO COVERED THE SKOIR AS AN ANCHOR AND REPORTER ALL THOSE YEARS AGO.

WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM.

GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO YOU WERE A REPORTER.

I WAS A KID AT THE TIME.

BUT PLEASE, TAKE US BACK TO NEW YORK OF 1989.

WHAT WAS THE CITY LIKE IN.

TENSE.

THERE WAS FEAR THAT PERMEATED THE CITY.

CRIME WAS A RECORD HIGH AT THAT TIME.

WE HAD A CRACK EPIDEMIC.

YOU HAD GANG VIOLENCE, MURDERS, SOMEWHERE AROUND, MORE THAN 12 MURDERS A WEEK BACK THEN.

SO THE CITY WAS GRIPPED IN FEAR AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.

WHEN THIS STORY DEVELOPED, YOU HEARD WHAT ED KOCH AND OTHERS SAID.

THIS RIVALED ANY CRIME THRILLER BACK THEN.

30 YEARS AGO, THAT STORY STIRS AS MUCH CONTROVERSY AS IT DID BACK THEN.

BECAUSE THERE ARE SKEMTPTICS.

THE POLICE DID THEIR JOB METICULOUSLY, AS MAYOR BLOOMBERG SAID AT ONE POINT.

AND THEN THE JUSTICE REFORM ADVOCATES SAY JUSTICE WAS SERVED.

THIS WAS ALL A RUSH TO JUDGMENT.

THERE ARE SO MANY TWISTS AND TURNS IN THIS STORY THAT OCCURRED THAT WEDNESDAY NIGHT ON APRIL 19th, 1989.

POLICE MADE ARRESTS WITHIN A MATTER OF HOURS AND THEY PICKED UP AND CHARGED, WELL, BEFORE THEY CHARGED, THEY PICKED UP FIVE BOYS, KNOWN AS THE CENTRAL PARK FIVE.

THEY RANGE IN AGE FROM 14 TO 16.

THEY QUESTIONED THEM, INTERROGATED THEM, FOR 24, 14 TO 30 HOURS, AS I REMEMBER THE FIGURE.

AND DURING THAT TIME, THEY KEPT PUMPING THEM FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE RAPE AND THE ATTACK.

THE BOYS LATER CLAIMED THAT THEY WERE DEPRIVED OF FOOD, DEPRIVED OF DRINK, DEPRIVED OF SLEEP.

AND THAT KIND OF GOES INTO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ABOUT A CASE LIKE THIS.

WHY WOULD THEY CONFESS TO SOMETHING THAT THEY CLAIMED THEY DID NOT DO?

ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT CAME OUT AT THE TIME WAS THAT THEY MADE A DEAL WITH POLICE.

YOU TELL US WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT.

WE'LL LET YOU GO HOME AND EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY.

AND REPORTEDLY, THE BOYS SECOND THAT.

AND THEY PROVIDED STORIES BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING INTERESTING ABOUT THAT.

BECAUSE THERE WERE INCONSISTENCIES IN THE STORY.

FIVE BOYS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN A CRIME WOULD HAVE ALL HAD THE SAME TALE.

THEY TOLD DIFFERENT TALES.

A COUPLE OF THEM TALKED ABOUT STABBING THE VICTIM BUT THERE WERE NO STAB WOUNDS ON THE VICTIM.

INTERESTING TO KNOW, TOO, POLICE DID NOT FIND ANY DNA EVIDENCE OF THE BOYS AND THERE WAS ONLY LIMITED PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF THE BOYS BEING INVOLVED IN THE ATTACK.

IT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU MENTION THAT HAD THEY DIDN'T FIND ANY DNA FROM THE THEN BOYS EVENTUALLY GROWN MEN.

THEY DID FIND SOME DNA.

THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT SET THEM FREE.

THAT IS WHAT SET THEM FREE.

INITIALLY, POLICE AT THE SCENE DID FIND DNA.

DID NOT MATCH THE BOYS BUT IT REMAINED UNKNOWN DNA FOR ABOUT 13 YEARS.

THAT'S WHEN ONE OF THE BOYS, KEVIN WISE, HE WAS TRIED AS AN ADULT.

HE WAS SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS.

HE WAS SERVING TIME.

I BELIEVE IT WAS AT RIKERS.

HE MET A SERIAL KILLER MAX TIEAS REYES.

HE HAD BEEN IN FOR A NUMBER OF RAPES.

HE WOULD BREAK INTO APARTMENTS AND RAPE WOMEN.

HE HAD BEEN CONVICTED OF A RAPE EARLIER IN CENTRAL PARK AND HE WAS IN NOW, 33 YEARS TO LIFE.

THAT'S THE STORY OF WHAT HAPPENED.

REYES SAID HE FOUND RELIGION WHILE INCARCERATED.

AND HE FELT WISE' PAIN.

SO HE TOLD HIM HE DID IT.

NOW, THEY WEREN'T EMPTY WORDS.

BECAUSE ONCE POLICE WENT TO CHECK THEY CORROBORATED HIS TALE.

THEY FOUND HIS DNA ON THE VICTIM.

THEY EVENTUALLY RECEIVED $41 MILLION TO SHARE AMONGST THE FIVE.

IN 2012, I BELIEVE IT WAS, DOCUMENT ARIAN IMMORTALIZED THEM.

HE CLAIMED THEY WERE WRONGFULLY CONVICTED FOR ONE REASON.

RACISM.

AND THERE WAS MUCH RACISM IN NEW YORK IN THE LATE 1980s.

IT WAS CHARACTERIZED AS ONE OF THE MOST SENSATIONAL CRIMES OF THAT ENTIRE DECADE.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THE CRIME THAT CONTINUES TO RIVET SO MANY NEW YORKERS.

THANK YOU FOR SATISFYING US BACK TO THAT TIME.

I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN WE LOOK BACK, WE LOOK BACK THROUGH WITH IT THE LENS OF NOW.

AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHERE WE WERE AS A CITY AND A COUNTRY IN 1989.

THANK YOU SOMUCH FOR JOINING US.

MY PLEASURE.

'METROFOCUS' IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH, SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III, THE SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM.

BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ, ROSALIND P. WALTER, BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG, AND BY -- CORPORATE FUNDING FOR 'METROFOCUS' WAS PROVIDED BY MUTUAL OF AMERICA, YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY.

AND BY PSE&G, SERVING CUSTOMERS, STRENGTHENING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND INVESTING IN THE FUTURE.

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MetroFocus is made possible by James and Merryl Tisch, Sue and Edgar Wachenheim III, the Sylvia A. and Simon B. Poyta Programming Endowment to Fight Anti-Semitism, Bernard and Irene Schwartz, Rosalind P. Walter, Barbara Hope Zuckerberg, Jody and John Arnhold, the Cheryl and Philip Milstein Family, Janet Prindle Seidler, Judy and Josh Weston and the Dr. Robert C. and Tina Sohn Foundation.

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