PAUL MANAFORT’S LIGHT SENTENCE & TRUMP ASSOCIATES UNDER INVESTIGATION

March 09, 2019 at 4:30 am

President Trump’s former campaign chairman has been sentenced to almost four years behind bars for financial fraud, a much shorter sentence than the 19 to 24 years outlined in sentencing guidelines. Former Trump campaign adviser Sam Nunberg divulges what he was asked to submit to the House Judiciary Committee, analyzes Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony, and addresses the looming specter of a possible Presidential impeachment.

Aired on March 8, 2019. 

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>> WELCOME TO "METROFOCUS," I'M
RAFAEL ROMAN.
THE PRESIDENT UNDER
INVESTIGATION.
A SWEEPING NEW PROBE LAUNCHED
THIS WEEK BY HOUSE DEMOCRATS IS
RATCHETING UP PRESSURE ON
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THOSE CLOSE
TO HIM, EVEN AS TESTIMONY BY
MICHAEL COHEN RAISES NEW
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S
LEGAL EXPOSURE.
ON MONDAY THE HOUSE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE LED BY NEW YORK DID
THEIC CONGRESSMAN JERRY NADLER
SENT LETTERS TO 81 CURRENT AND
FORMER TRUMP ASSOCIATES AND
AGENCIES SEEKING DOULTS AND
INFORMATION AS IT BEGINS A NEW
INVESTIGATION INTO POSSIBLE
OBSTRUCTION, CORRUPTION AND
ABUSE OF POWER BY PRESIDENT
TRUMP AND HIS ADMINISTRATION.
ACCORDING TO THE A.P. AND "NEW
YORK TIMES," THE NEW PROBE COULD
BE SETTING THE STAGE FOR A
POSSIBLE IMPEACHMENT EFFORTS,
SOMETHING THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE
BEEN WARY OF APPROACHING SO FAR.
IT COMES AS FORMER TRUMP
CAMPAIGN CHAIRMAN PAUL MANAFORT
WAS SENTENCED TO FOUR YEARS IN
PRISON FOR TAX AND BANK FRAUD
RELATED TO HIS WORK ADVISING
UKRAINIAN POLITICIANS, CRIMES HE
COMMITTED BEFORE HE JOINED THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
THE SENTENCE IS TOWER LIGHT
THAERN THE 19 TO 24-YEAR PRISON
TERM RECOMMENDED.
LEADING MANY EXPERTS TO SAY THAT
THE JUDGE, A REAGAN APPOINTEE,
WAS TOO LENIENT.
JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THE
VARIOUS INVESTIGATIONS AND THE
POSSIBLE JEOPARDY FOR THE
PRESIDENT IS SAM NUNBERG, FORMER
CAMPAIGN ADVISER TO DONALD TRUMP
AND ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO
RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE THIS WEEK.
>> WELL FIRST OF ALL THE
COMMITTEE IS ASKING ME TO
PROVIDE INFORMATION REGARDING
ANY CONTACTS I COULD HAVE HAD OR
WOULD HAVE HAD WITH THE RUSSIAN
FEDERATION ABOUT SANCTIONS WITH
WIKILEAKS AND THE TRUMP TOWER
MOSCOW MEETING, I THINK IT'S
LIKE EIGHT PARTS.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO GIVE THEM
AND IN THE END WAYS GOING TO
COMPLY NO MATTER WHAT.
BECAUSE ONE, ELECTIONS HAVE
CONSEQUENCES AND THE MINUTE THE
DEMOCRATS WON THE HOUSE WE KNEW
THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THESE
INVESTIGATIONS, JERRY NADLER
SAID IT WHEN HE WAS THE RANKING
MEMBER OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE.
NUMBER TWO ONE OF THE THINGS I
HEAR FROM A LOT OF THE TRUMP
ALLIES ARE SAYING THEY DON'T
WANT TO COMPLY WITH THIS OR
PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T EVEN RECEIVE
THE LETTERS, ARE SAYING YOU
SHOULDN'T COMPLY.
THEY'RE NOT THE ONES WHO
RECEIVED THESE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO BE UNDER
SUSPICION, BECAUSE I DID NOT
COLLUDE WITH THE RUSSIANS, I DID
NOT GET ANYTHING FROM WIKILEAKS
AND I HAVE NO REASON NOT TO
COMPLY.
>> THEY'RE GOING TO ASK YOU
ABOUT ROGER STONE.
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU SAID THAT ROGER STONE
TOLD YOU THAT HE HAD DINNER WITH
JULIAN ASSANGE, BUT YOU DON'T
BELIEVE THAT THAT EVER HAPPENED.
>> I BELIEVED IT AT THE TIME.
WHAT HE HAD TOLD ME.
>> BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT ANY
MORE?
>> SUBSEQUENTLY, NO.
BECAUSE HE TOLD ME THAT JULIAN
ASSANGE WAS GOING TO RELEASE
INFORMATION ON THE CLINTON
FOUNDATION.
THEY NEVER REALLY RELEASED ANY
INFORMATION ON THE CLINTON
FOUNDATION.
SO EVERYTHING HE TOLD ME DID NOT
TURN OUT TO BE ACCURATE.
NOW DON'T GET ME WRONG.
ROGER WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE
HAD DINNER WITH JULIAN ASSANGE.
HE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE MET
HIM IN THE ECUADORIAN EMBASSY,
BUT HE DIDN'T.
>> SOME PEOPLE SAY HE MAY BE THE
FIRST PERSON EVER TO BE
CONVICTED OF BRAGGING.
DO YOU THINK THAT MAY BE THE
CASE?
>> ACTUALLY WAS IN CHARGE IN THE
INDICTMENT HE WAS CHARGED WITH
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE,
ALLEGEDLY LYING TO CONGRESS.
I THINK THAT IT GOES TO WHETHER
OR NOT ANY OF THESE, ANY
AMERICANS ARE GOING TO BE PART
OF THIS CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD
AMERICA WHICH WAS IN THE FIRST
INDICTMENT THAT MUELLER GOT FROM
THE GRAND JURY.
I DON'T HAPPEN TO KNOW, BUT-DAY
THINK THAT THE MUELLER REPORT
WILL BE DAMNING FROM THE POINT
OF VIEW THAT IT'S GOING TO SAY
THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND
PERHAPS DONALD TRUMP WERE
WILLING OR THOUGHT THEY WERE
GETTING THESE WIKILEAKS --
>> IS THAT WHY YOU SAID MOST
PEOPLE THINK THAT THE REPORT IS
NOT GOING TO HAVE, IS NOT GOING
TO PRESENT A FINDING OF A LINK
OF COLLUSION BETWEEN THE
ADMINISTRATION AND RUSSIA.
>> UH-HUH.
>> BUT YOU SAID YOU THINK IT'S
GOING TO BE A ROAD MAP FOR ITCH
PEACHMENT?
>> IT IS GOING TO BE A ROAD MAP
FOR IMPEACHMENT.
I THINK THEY WILL IMPEACH HIM.
I THINK WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE
DOING ARE TRYING TO TAKE THEIR
TIME.
TRYING TO PRESENT THEIR EVIDENCE
TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
I THINK THEY HAVE JUDGED AND
CONGRESSMAN NADLER EVEN SAID HE
BELIEVES THE PRESIDENT HAS
ALREADY OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE.
THE ISSUE I THINK UNDERLINES FOR
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE ONE, DO
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO
RELITIGATE THE 2016 ELECTION?
TWO, IF THE UNDERLYING CRIME
THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT
EVIDENCE OF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
OR DONALD TRUMP DEALING DIRECTLY
WITH THE GRU OR THE RUSSIAN
GOVERNMENT, THEN, WHAT ARE YOU
GOING TO IMPEACH HIM ON HERE IF
THERE'S NO UNDERLYING CRIME.
AS OPPOSED TO NIXON AND CLINTON.
>> AND YOUR USUAL UNDERSTATED
WAY, DONALD TRUMP TWEETED THAT
THE HOUSE PROBE WAS THE GREATEST
OVERREACH IN THE HISTORY OF OUR
COUNTRY AND ADDED THE DEMS ARE
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE AND WON'T
GET ANYTHING DONE, A BIG FAT
FISHING EXPEDITION IN SEARCH OF
A CRIME AND HE CALLED THE PROBE
PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT.
DO YOU SEE THIS PROBE,
PARTICULARLY FROM THE -- AS A
WITCH HUNT.
DAVID AXELROD, THE DEMOCRATS
SAID IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS.
>> DAVID AXELROD SAID THAT IN.
>> YES.
HE SAID BE CAREFUL, DEMOCRATS IT
COULD LOOK LIKE A WITCH HUNT.
>> I THINK THAT THE PROBLEM THAT
THE REPUBLICANS HAD IN 1998 WITH
BILL CLINTON.
THESE ARE LEGAL ISSUES.
BUT WHAT I DO THINK IS THE
PROBLEM FOR THE DEMOCRATS IS
THAT IT LOOKS AS IF THE, IT
LOOKS AS IF IT IS COOKED FROM
THE POINT OF VIEW THEY ALREADY
BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP COMMITTED
CRIMES.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE AN UNDERLYING
CRIME OF DONALD TRUMP DEALING
WITH THE RUSSIANS DIRECTLY, OR
THE GRU FOR WIKILEAKS, NOT EVEN
WHETHER OR NOT -- IF HE DIDN'T
DO IT THEN YOU KNOW WHERE'S THE
BEEF?
THIS NOT, I DID NOT FEEL THAT
THE LETTER I GOT WAS UNFAIR.
I THINK THERE'S EXECUTIVE
PRIVILEGE ISSUES WITH THE OTHER
LETTERS.
BUT I DIDN'T GET ONE OF THOSE
BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY DEAL
WITH THE PRESIDENT, I TALKED TO
HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES WHILE HE
WAS PRESIDENT, BUT I HAVEN'T
TALKED TO HIM IN A LONG TIME.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT MICHAEL
COHEN'S TESTIMONY.
A TALE OF TWO TESTIMONIES.
YOU LISTEN TO THE DEMOCRATS AND
THEY SAY SMOKING GUNS ALL OVER
THE PLACE, THIS HAS DAMNED THE
PRESIDENT.
YOU TALK TO THE REPUBLICANS AND
THEY SAY FINAL PROOF THAT THE
RUSSIAN COLLUSION WAS NOTHING
BUT A BIG HOME.
WHERE DO YOU SEE IT IN.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING
TO HAVE FINAL PROOF UNTIL WE
ACTUALLY SEE THE MUELLER REPORT.
WHAT I DO SEE, THOUGH IS ONE,
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
WITH MICHAEL COHEN.
I LIKE MICHAEL, I SYMPATHIZE
WITH MICHAEL.
I DON'T THINK HE WAS TREATED
VERY WELL BY DONALD TRUMP.
WHAT WE DID FIND OUT, RAFAEL IS
I CAN TELL YOU HE WANTED A WHITE
HOUSE JOB.
HE SAID HE DIDN'T.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S MATERIAL
TO HIS TESTIMONY.
NOW WE FIND OUT THAT HIS LAWYERS
HAD APPROACH THEED TRUMP LAWYERS
ABOUT A PARDON.
HOWEVER, WE ALSO FIND OUT THAT
DONALD TRUMP, THIS IS WHERE I
THINK HE COULD HAVE ULTIMATELY A
PROBLEM, WAS YOU KNOW, NOT
TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE
TRUTH WHEN IT CAME TO THE STORMY
DANIELS PAYMENT AND HIS
RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
I THINK THAT THE OVERLYING ISSUE
IS THAT DONALD TRUMP IS, HAS AN
ISSUE, YOU KNOW MAYBE
CONSTITUTIONALLY INCAPABLE OF
JUST SAYING, LAYING HIS MARKERS
DOWN AND SAYING THE SAME WAY
BILL CLINTON DID.
SAYING LOOK, I DID CERTAIN
THINGS I'M NOT PROUD OF OR I DID
CERTAIN THINGS HERE.
MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE
CLEAR ABOUT THEM.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NO UNDERLYING
CRIME HERE.
HE'S INCAPABLE OF DOING THAT.
YOU LOOK BACK TO BILL CLINTON'S
ME
MEA CULPA, ADVISERS DIDN'T THINK
HIS WENT FAR ENOUGH.
THE PRESIDENT HAS A LEGITIMATE
ARGUMENT HERE.
THINK ULTIMATELY HERE'S HIS
ISSUE, THESE HEARINGS TO
CONTINUE TO DO THIS I DON'T
THINK THEY WILL BE THE KNOCKOUT
PUNCH TO THAT 35% OF HIS BASE,
BUT THAT'S ONLY 35%.
AND THESE ARE CONSISTENT AND THE
PRESIDENT OF BOXING METAPHORS,
THESE ARE JABS AND RIB HITS.
>> YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO WOUND
HIM.
EVEN IF THERE'S AN IMPEACHMENT
AND HE DOESN'T GET THROWN OUT OF
OFFICE, IT'S STILL ALL THIS
STUFF SWIRLING IS GOING TO HURT
HIM FOR 2020?
>> IT COULD IF HE DOESN'T HAVE
THE DELIVERABLES THAT HE HAD
DURING HIS FIRST TERM TO KEEP
REPUBLICANS IN CHECK WITH HIM.
HE DOESN'T HAVE ANOTHER SUPREME
COURT VACANCY.
THEY'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S
GOING TO BE AN ECONOMIC
SLOWDOWN.
NORTH KOREA ISN'T GOING AWAY.
I WOULD SAY, THOUGH, I WORKED
FOR DONALD TRUMP, I HAVE BEEN AN
ADVERSARY OF HIM.
I WAS SUED BY HIM.
DON'T UNDERESTIMATE DONALD
TRUMP.
AND ANYBODY UNDERESTIMATES HIM.
I THINK HE WILL MAKE IT TO 2020.
ULTIMATELY, I DON'T THINK HE
GETS INDICTED.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS GOING TO
BE RUNNING AGAINST, AND I THINK
A LOT OF THE CANDIDATES HE HAS A
VERY GOOD CHANCE TO BEAT.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US.
>> THANK YOU.

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