METROFOCUS: MARCH 28, 2019

As more people contract measles in Rockland County, new rules are imposed upon those children who are not vaccinated. All eyes now turn to some in the area’s Orthodox Jewish community who have shunned the vaccine, and what is being done to contain the outbreak. New York City’s new public advocate Jumaane Williams shares thoughts on Mayor Bill de Blasio, the MTA’s fare hike, the successes and failures of Thrive NYC, and the future of our city. In a new documentary America’s favorite sex therapist shares her life story as a Holocaust survivor, a sniper for the Israel Defense Forces, a wife, and a mother before playing a major role in America’s sexual revolution.

Aired on March 28, 2019. 

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON 'METROFOCUS,' STATE OF EMERGENCY.

AS MORE PEOPLE CONTRACT MEASLES JUST OUTSIDE NEW YORK CITY LIMITS, NEW RULES ARE IMPOSED FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED.

A LARGE CONTINGENT OF THEM, THE AREA'S ULTRAORTHODOX JEWISH COMMUNITY WHO HAVE IN THE PAST SHUNNED THE VACCINE.

IN MOMENTS, WE'LL LIFT THE VEIL THAT OFTEN HELPS THEIR PRIVACY.

> JULY MANI WILLIAMS HAS BEEN ELECTED THE CITY'S PUBLIC ADVOCATE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT HIS FUTURE AND THAT OF OUR CITY.

> AND 'ASK DR. RUTH.'

THE DIMINUTIVE SEX THERAPIST GETS A DOCUMENT SEND-UP AND IN DOING SO WE LEARN ABOUT A WOMAN A SNIPER FOR THE ISRAELI DEFENSE FORCE, BEFORE SHE BECAME A HOUSEHOLD NAME WHO PLAYED A MAJOR PART IN AMERICA'S SEXUAL REVOLUTION.

DR. RUTH IS HERE.

AND AS IS HER NATURE, SHE IS NOT HOLDING BACK.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS 'METROFOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

Announcer: THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

'METROFOCUS' IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ ROSALIND P. WALTER BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG AND BY --

> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO 'METROFOCUS.'

I'M RAFAEL PI ROMAN.

IT'S BEEN JUST A LITTLE OVER A WEEK SINCE JUMANI WILLIAMS STEPPED DOWN FROM THE NEW YORK CITY COUNCIL AND WAS SWORN IN AS THE NEW PUBLIC ADVOCATE.

DURING THAT TIME WILLIAMS HAS WEIGHED IN ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES IMPACTING NEW YORKERS INCLUDING THE RECENTLY UNVEILED STATE AND CITY BUDGET, POLICE REFORM, AND THE DEBATE OVER DIVERSITY AT THE CITY'S ELITE HIGH SCHOOLS.

WILLIAMS, WHO DEFEATED 16 OPPONENTS, NOW HOPES TO BRING INCREASED POWERS TO THE OFFICE OF THE PUBLIC ADVOCATE WHICH CURRENTLY HAS A LIMITED BUDGET AND NO SUBPOENA POWER OVER CITY AGENCIES.

JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT HIS AGENDA PRIORITIES AND TO GIVE US HIS REACTION TO THE NEW MTA TOLL AND FARE HIKES IS NEW YORK CITY PUBLIC ADVOCATE JUMANI WILLIAMS.

PUBLIC ADVOCATE WILLIAMS, THANKS FOR JOINING US AS PUBLIC ADVOCATE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO YOU'VE DESCRIBED YOURSELF AS AN ACTIVIST SLASH PUBLIC OFFICIAL AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CONDUCT YOURSELF AS THE PUBLIC ADVOCATE AS AN ACTIVIST.

HOW WILL THAT DIFFER FROM THE WAY THAT YOUR PREDECESSORS CARRIED OUT THEIR DUTIES IN THE OFFICE?

IN TERMS OF THE OFFICE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BUILDING ON ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT THE PREDECESSORS BROUGHT TO THE OFFICE.

IN TERMS OF BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I'VE ALWAYS SAID I'M TRYING TO BE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ELECTED OFFICIAL.

THAT'S WHAT I TRIED TO DO AS A COUNCILMEMBER.

BEING TOLD THAT I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO, I ALWAYS SAID, NO, YOU DON'T, THE BEST ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ACTIVISTS.

I'VE SOUGHT OUT WHENEVER NECESSARY AND NEEDED TO BE IN THE STREETS, PROTESTING, THEN BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE HALLS OF POWER TO GET LAWS AND POLICIES CHANGED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE.

AND I INTEND TO KEEP DOING THAT.

YOU GOT ARRESTED AS A CITY COUNCILOR A COUPLE OF TIMES.

DO YOU INTEND TO DO THAT AS PUBLIC ADVOCATE?

I USE ALL THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX, WHEN NEEDED I WILL DO THAT AS WELL.

I GAVE A MOVING ACCEPTANCE SPEECH AFTER YOUR VICTORY, YOU BROKE DOWN IN TEARS WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAD BEEN IN THERAPY FOR YEARS, AND YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO TELL CHILDREN THEY COULD OVERCOME BECAUSE YOU OVERCAME.

WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT MOMENT TO GIVE THAT MESSAGE?

I WANTED TO USE THAT TIME.

I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS GOING TO SAY IT OR NOT.

BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES IN A WAY THAT DESTIGMATIZES WHAT FOLKS ARE GOING THROUGH.

THERE WAS A CELEBRITY RECENTLY WHO SAID THE MOST DIFFICULT WORDS IN THE LANGUAGE WAS 'PLEASE HELP ME.'

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, THAT THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES GOING THROUGH SOME THINGS, AND IT'S OKAY TO TALK ABOUT IT.

IT'S OKAY TO SEEK HELP.

AND PEOPLE HAVE NO PROBLEMS TALKING ABOUT GOING TO THE DENTIST, GOING TO THE DOCTOR, BUT FOR SOME REASON GOING TO GET ASSISTANCE FOR MENTAL HEALTH, JUST A CHECKUP OR THERAPY, IS SOMETHING THAT MANY COMMUNITIES SEE AS A STIGMA.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BROKE THAT DOWN.

FIRST LADY McLEAN HAS STARTED AN INITIATIVE, THRIVE NYC, WHICH HAS GOTTEN HEAT FROM THE NEW YORK CITY COUNCIL OVER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THE MONEY IS GOING, AND NO WAY TO MEASURE WHETHER THEY'VE SUCCEEDED OR NOT.

AND THRIVE NYC TRIES TO DEALS WITH MENTAL HEALTH IN THE CITY.

DO YOU THINK THE CRITICISM HAS BEEN FAIR?

AND AS PUBLIC ADVOCATE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO HELP THRIVE NYC?

BEFORE THE CRITICISM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT CREDIT IS GIVEN WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.

THE FIRST LADY TOOK ON AN ISSUE AND SAID THAT THIS IS NOT BEING SPOKEN ABOUT ENOUGH AND I'M GOING TO SPEARHEAD IT.

FOR THAT WE MUST GIVE CREDIT.

I WANT TO THANK HER FOR DOING SO.

THESE ISSUES ARE BEING TALKED ABOUT IN CIRCLES WHERE IT HASN'T BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN A VERY LONG TIME.

THE CRITICISM, AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS VERY REAL QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT BEING ANSWERED.

WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT, HOW IT'S BEING SPENT, MAKING SURE WE'RE SPENDING IT EFFECTIVELY.

BASED ON A HEARING I WAS AT, WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE PROGRAM IS BAD.

IT DOES MEAN WE HAVE TO ADJUST WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROGRAM AND MAKE SURE THE FUNDING IS BEING SPENT APPROPRIATELY.

IT'S A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT.

THAT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY FROM THE JOB THAT THE FIRST LADY BELIEVED NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND I THINK IT'S STARTING TO BE ADDRESSED.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO TEASE OUT THIS DISCUSSION.

MENTAL ILLNESS IS SOMETHING ACUTE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

BUT WE SHOULDN'T ALWAYS MIX IT UP WITH GENERAL MENTAL HEALTH WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO CHECK IN ONCE IN A WHILE WITH THE GENERAL MENTAL HEALTH STATUS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ONE ISSUE THAT I THINK MOST NEW YORKERS WOULD PROBABLY CONSIDER THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THEIR DAILY LIFE, AND THAT IS THE DECLINING QUALITY OF THE SUBWAY SYSTEM, THE MTA.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE FACING FARE HIKES AND ALSO TOLL HIKES.

WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THOSE HIKES?

DO YOU SUPPORT THEM?

AND WHAT WILL YOU DO AS ADVOCATE TO FIX THIS SYSTEM?

WELL, I CALL IT HAS HASHTAG #CUOMOSMTA.

IT'S BEEN CLEAR FROM THE 'L' TRAIN TO THE CHANGES BEING MADE, IT'S WHATEVER IS AT HIS WHIM.

RIGHT NOW WE REALLY NEED TO DISMANTLE THE BOARD AND DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAT HAS THE POWER SPREAD A LITTLE BIT MORE EVENLY BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE STATE FOR SURE, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW.

BUT I DON'T SUPPORT THE FARE HIKE.

I THINK EVERY TIME THERE IS SOME MONIES NEEDED, WE GO TO THE PIGGY BANK OF THE STRAP HANGER, AND THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR.

WE DON'T EVEN SEE ALL THE SETS OF BOOKS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS THING IS MOVING AND WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING AND THE NO GOING.

THE GOVERNOR HAS WASTED MONEY ON THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH BEAUTIFICATION AS OPPOSED TO FIXING THE BRAKING AND SIGNAL SYSTEM, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I DO SUPPORT CONGESTION PRICING.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE DETAILS.

BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN WAIT FOR ALL OF THE DETAILS BEFORE WE GET THE TRAIN MOVING, SO TO SPEAK.

I DO WANT TO GET THE TRAIN MOVING AND KEEPING OUR EYE ON THE BALL, PARTICULARLY THIS GOVERNOR.

IT'S ABOUT PARITY.

PEOPLE'S KNEE-JERK REACTION TO SAYING WE DON'T SUPPORT IT, GENERALLY WHEN YOU ASK A QUESTION, DO YOU DRIVE INTO MANHATTAN DURING RUSH HOUR EVERY DAY TO GO TO WORK, 97% OF THE PEOPLE OR MORE DO NOT.

IT'S ABOUT PARITY, WHERE WE'RE GETTING THIS FUNDING FROM.

WE KEEP GOING TO THE STRAP HANGERS.

THAT'S NOT FAIR.

OF COURSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED, SENIORS ON LIMITED INCOME.

WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY ARE.

I DON' WE CAN'T KEEP GOING TO THE STRAP HANGERS.

LET'S MOVE ON TO A DIFFERENT TOPIC.

EDUCATION IN THE ELITE HIGH SCHOOLS IN NEW YORK CITY.

THE MAYOR IS CALLING FOR SCRAPPING THE ENTRANCE EXAM.

YOU DISAGREE WITH THAT.

WHY?

THEY'RE HOLDING THIS UP AND SAY, DON'T LOOK AT ANYTHING ELSE.

AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AS AN ENTIRE SYSTEM.

THOSE ARE EIGHT SCHOOLS, THREE IN PARTICULAR, THE BIG THREE.

I COME FROM A DIFFERENT KIND OF ANGLE.

I WENT TO BROOKLYN TECH.

IF YOU HAD USED ANY OTHER MEASURE, I WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN INTO THAT SCHOOL.

I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH ADHD AND THERE'S NO OTHER MECHANISM THAT I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN IN.

MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT TWO DIFFERENT AVENUES.

MAYBE SOME FOLKS GET TO DO THE TEST, SOME FOLKS GET TO DO MULTIPLE CRITERIA, WE DON'T HAVE TO PIT COMMUNITIES AGAINST EACH OTHER.

WHAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE MULTIPLE CRITERIA SELECTION SCHOOLS THAT EXIST NOW ARE NOT THAT MUCH MORE DIVERSE THAN A SPECIALIZED HIGH SCHOOL.

HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE DIVERSE?

WE JUST FOUND OUT SEVEN OUT OF 800 STUDENTS IN STUYVESANT WERE AFRICAN-AMERICAN.

ELEANOR ROOSEVELT RECENTLY HAD BIAS-BASED INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED AND MOST OF THOSE STUDENTS ARE NOT DIVERSE, JUST THE SAME IF NOT WORSE THAN STUYVESANT.

SO THIS IS THE QUESTION WE HAVE TO ASK.

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH OUR SYSTEM?

STOP PRETENDING THAT ADJUSTING THESE EIGHT SCHOOLS AND LEAVING THE HUNDRED THAT HAVE SELECTIVE CRITERIA OR THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE THAT'S NOT EDUCATING THESE STUDENTS.

THE JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL I WENT TO IS NO LONGER THERE.

THESE FEEDER SCHOOLS ARE NO LONGER GOING THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

IT IS A LARGER QUESTION THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS.

AND DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE THE WAY THE MAYOR HAS DONE IT IS DIVISIVE.

OKAY.

WE HAVE LESS THAN 30 SECOND.

I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS.

FOR YOUR SPECIAL ELECTION THAT GOT YOU ELECTED, THE CITY SPENT $15 MILLION FOR AN OFFICE THAT HAS A BUDGET OF $3 MILLION PLUS.

9% OF VOTERS SHOWED UP FOR IT.

NOT ONLY THAT BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO RUN AGAIN IN A PRIMARY IN JUNE AND RUN AGAIN IN NOVEMBER.

DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE?

AS PUBLIC ADVOCATE, CAN YOU CHANGE THAT?

OUR ELECTION LAWS ARE ARCANE.

THE RULES AROUND SPECIAL ELECTIONS ARE STUPID.

AND THEY WASTE MONEY.

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IS A LAW THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT SO THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO ELECTIONS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTION TO FILL A VACANCY.

SO YOU HAVE THE ELECTION AND THAT'S IT.

THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION THAT DOESN'T FILL OUT THE TERM AND THEN A PRIMARY.

AND NOW THE FOLKS IN MY OLD COUNCIL SEAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION AND MAY AND A PRIMARY IN JUNE.

IT HAS TO CHANGE.

SER

IT'S A BIZARRE WORLD.

THANK YOU, PUBLIC ADVOCATE WILLIAMS.

> STATE OF EMERGENCY.

THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING JUST ABOUT 35 MILES FROM WHERE I AM SITTING, UP IN ROCKLAND COUNTY, WHERE THE WORST MEASLES OUTBREAK SEEN IN DECADES IN NEW YORK IS SPREADING AND SPREADING FAST.

SINCE LAST FALL, MORE THAN 150 MEASLES CASES HAVE BEEN RECORDED IN A NEW YORK SUBURB, HOME TO A LARGE ULTRAORTHODOX JEWISH COMMUNITY WHERE THERE HAS BEEN SOME RESISTANCE TO VACCINATIONS.

VACCINATION RATES TEND TO BE LOW AMONG THE ULTRAORTHODOX.

REASONS VARY, FROM FEAR OF INTERFERENCE FROM OUTSIDERS TO CONFUSION ABOUT ACCURATE MEDICAL INFORMATION AND THEIR OWN RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

THESE FEARS COME DESPITE COMMUNITY LEADERS URGING PEOPLE TO GET VACCINATED.

OFFICIALS HAVE IMPOSED STRICT NEW RULES FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED.

IF YOU ARE AN UNVACCINATED MINOR, YOU'RE NOW BANNED FROM THE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC PLACES IN ROCKLAND COUNTY FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

JOINING US NOW WITH MORE ON NOT JUST THE MEASLES OUTBREAK BUT TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE HASIDIC COMMUNITY, ARI FELDMAN.

I'VE SEEN SOME REPORTING THAT THE ORTHODOX JEWISH COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE ULTRAORTHODOX JEWISH COMMUNITIES, REJECT ALL MODERN MEDICINE.

AND I WOULD SUSPECT THAT'S NOT NOT ENTIRELY TRUE.

LET'S START OFF WITH THE COMMUNITIES.

AND LET ME ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN TO US THE NOTION OF HOW THEY'VE SETTLED IN THIS AND HOW TIGHTLY KNIT THESE COMMUNITIES ARE.

SURE.

FIRST OF ALL, WHAT WE CALL ULTRAORTHODOX JEWS REPRESENT ABOUT 250,000 TO 300,000 AMERICANS, MOSTLY IN ROCKLAND COUNTY AND BROOKLYN.

YOU'RE RIGHT TO THINK THAT THEY DO NOT ESCHEW ALL MODERN MEDICINE.

MODERN MEDICINE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ORTHODOX JEWS IN GENERAL, PARTICULARLY THINGS LIKE REPRODUCTIVE MEDICINE.

SO WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS CASE IS THAT IT'S AN INSTANCE WHERE MANY HASIDIC JEWS, A MINORITY OF A MINORITY, BUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, ARE REJECTING MEDICAL SCIENCE AND REJECTING WHAT THEIR RABBIS ARE TELLING THEM TO DO IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THAT MEDICAL SCIENCE.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REASONS FOR THAT.

AND LET'S START WITH THE RELIGIOUS COMPONENT.

ARE THEY RELYING ON SOMETHING WITHIN THEIR RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS THAT ALLOW THEM TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE ENGAGING IN THESE VACCINATIONS?

CERTAINLY WHAT MANY OF THE PARENTS WHOSE CHILDREN ARE NOT VACCINATED ARE CLAIMING IS RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS, BECAUSE YOU CAN CLAIM RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION FOR ANY KIND OF VACCINATION IN THE UNITED STATES, MORE OR LESS.

BUT WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING ABOUT THIS SITUATION IS THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF LEADING RABBIS AND WHAT WE CALL REBBES, THE SPIRITUAL LEADERS OF THESE COMMUNITIES, ARE URGING THEIR COMMUNITIES TO GET VACCINATED.

YOU HAVE THE HEADS OF THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT YESHIVAS IN THE WORLD URGING THEIR THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS AND FACULTY TO GET VACCINATED.

SO YOU HAVE THIS MINORITY THAT IS GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN, NOT ONLY GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN BUT GOING AGAINST THE VERY ACCEPTED FORMAT OF BEING A HASIDIC JEW WHICH IS DOING WHAT THE SPIRITUAL LEADERS TELL YOU TO DO.

HOW UNUSUAL IS THAT?

BECAUSE I'VE SEEN THE SPIRITUAL LEADERS OUT THERE MAKING THESE PLEAS, SAYING IT'S ESSENTIAL, GO AND DO THIS.

HOW UNUSUAL IS IT FOR THIS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT GROUP TO ESSENTIALLY REJECT THAT GUIDANCE AND WHY ARE THEY DOING IT?

CERTAINLY THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF WAYS YOU CAN ADHERE TO JEWISH TRADITIONS AND THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF DIFFERENT TRADITIONS.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEE HASIDIC JEWS DRESSED DIFFERENT WAYS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES OF MEDICAL SCIENCE, THERE'S USUALLY PRETTY STRICT PARAMETERS OF WHAT IS ACCEPTED.

AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.

THERE'S VIRTUALLY NO OTHER CASES WHERE YOU HAVE THE MAJORITY OF HASIDIC LEADERS, ULTRAORTHODOX LEADERS, SAYING DO THIS AND THE RANK AND FILE, JUST THE EVERYDAY PLEBES ON THE STREET, SAYING NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.

THE REASONS FOR THAT ARE PRETTY COMPLEX.

I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST A RISING TIDE OF ANTIVACCINE SENTIMENT IN GENERAL.

A LOT OF THE MEDIA THAT HASIDIC JEWS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO VACCINATION ARE LOOKING AT IS THE SAME AT WHAT SECULAR ANTI-VAXORS ARE LOOKING AT, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CAUSING OUTBREAKS IN PLACES LIKE WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW.

HASIDIC JEWS ARE INSULAR, THEY'RE NOT INVOLVED IN MODERN SOCIETY TO THE EXTENT WE ARE OR OTHER ORTHODOX JEWS ARE.

THEY'RE ON THE INTERNET AS WELL, LOOK AT THE SAME YOUTUBE VIDEOS, THE SAME SUPSEUDO SCIENCE ARTICLES.

IT'S POWERING THIS MOVEMENT FROM THE INSIDE.

IN GENERAL IN THE HASIDIC COMMUNITY, THERE'S AN AVERSION TO SECULAR AUTHORITY.

WHY IS THAT?

HASIDIC JEWS ARE WARY OF INTERFERENCE IN THEIR RELIGIOUS LIVES.

I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO GENERAL PERSECUTION BY -- IN EUROPE, I THINK THAT'S VERY DEEPSET.

AND IN THE UNITED STATES, THERE'S A VERY STRONG FEELING THAT WE KNOW HOW TO RUN OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE HASIDIC JUICE AND OTHER ORTHODOX JEWS WHO ARE VERY INSISTENT ON THIS ISSUE OF YESHIVAS THAT'S BEEN COMING UP, THEY WANT TO RUN THEIR OWN SCHOOLS, THEY DON'T WANT OTHER PEOPLE TELLING THEM HOW TO DO THAT.

THERE'S AN UNDERCURRENT OF THAT.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SMALL MINORITY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE IN THE VEIN OF SECULAR ANT ANTIVAXERS.

IT'S TROUBLING ISSUE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR REPORTING AND YOUR INVESTIGATION AND YOUR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US.

THANKS SO MUCH, YOU BE WELL.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

> DR. RUTH WESTHEIMER, BEST KNOWN AS AMERICA'S MOST FAMOUS SEX THERAPIST, AS AN AMERICAN ICON AND AMERICAN SUCCESS STORY.

SHE GAINED MILLIONS OF FANS STARTING IN THE 1980s BY TALKING HONESTLY AND GRAPHICALLY ABOUT SEX EDUCATION ON RADIO AND TELEVISION WHEN NOBODY WAS SPEAKING OPENLY ABOUT IT.

AS IT TURNS OUT, THAT'S ONLY A SMALL PART OF HER DIVERSIFIED LIFE.

THE HOLOCAUST, ANOTHER.

A HULU ORIGINAL DOCUMENTARY CALLED 'ASK DR. RUTH' CHRONICLES HER LIFE FROM HER EARLY TRAGEDIES TO HER SUCCESSFUL PRESENT LIFE, STILL GOING STRONG AT 90 YEARS YOUNG.

THIS TELEVISION PROGRAM CONTAINS EXPLICIT SEXUAL LANGUAGE.

THE HOST IS DR. RUTH K.

WESTHEIMER.

HELLO!

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS WOMAN.

SHE HAS A DEEP GERMAN ACCENT AND SHE TALKS ABOUT SEX AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING WITH HER.

IN THE EARLY '80s, PEOPLE DID NOT TALK ABOUT SEXUALITY.

YOU HAVE A CERTAIN LIST OF WORDS YOU CAN'T SAY.

WELL, WE SAID THEM.

LET HIM INSERT HIS PENIS VIINTO THE VAGINA FROM BEHIND.

IT IS INDEED A PLEASURE FOR US TO WELCOME DR. RUTH BACK TO 'METROFOCUS,' ALWAYS SO NICE TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU, JACK, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THE FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU IS, WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN THEY SAID TO YOU, WE WANT TO DO A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT YOUR LIFE?

FIRST I SAID NO.

REALLY?

I SAID, ENOUGH ALREADY.

WHY?

I SAID THEY'VE ALREADY COMBED THROUGH EVERYTHING ABOUT ME, I HAVE BOOKS ABOUT MY LIFE, I HAVE AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY.

AND THEN I DECIDED, OKAY, I WILL DO IT.

AND NOW, JACK, MAY I TELL YOU A SECRET, I AM DELIGHTED.

SO THE FILM, 'ASK DR. RUTH,' I HAVE TO TELL YOU A SECRET, THEY JUST HAD IN 'THE LOS ANGELES TIMES' A WONDERFUL ARTICLE, THEY SAID 'ASK DR. RUTH' FOR 2019 IS WHAT THE PRELIMINARY 'RUTH BADER GINSBURG' WAS FOR 2018.

THAT PLEASES ME NO END.

YOU SHOULD BE PLEASED BECAUSE IT IS INDEED THAT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT YOU, I WANT THEM TO WATCH THE FILM BECAUSE THE FILM IS FABULOUS AND THERE ARE THINGS THERE THAT EVEN PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU.

PEOPLE MIGHT BE ASTONISHED TO KNOW THAT YOU TRAVELED TO A 17-YEAR-OLD TO WHAT WAS THEN PALESTINE AND YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE HAGGANAH.

YOU SAY IT VERY NICELY.

I DON'T MAKE A BIG TO-DO OVER IT.

YOU HAVE NOT IN THE PAST.

BUT THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

I WAS A SNIPER.

I CAN PUT FIVE BULLETS IN THE RED CIRCLE.

I WAS FORTUNATE, I NEVER KILLED ANYBODY, BUT I WAS A VERY GOOD SHARPSHOOTER.

AND WE SHOW IN THE FILM THAT HERE I'M 90 1/2, I CAN STILL PUT AN STEN GUN TOGETHER WITH MY EYES CLOSED.

IN THE FILM IT SHOWS VERY WELL, WHEN I'M HOLDING THAT STEN GUN AND I'M SHOWING THAT I CAN STILL USE IT, AT ONE MOMENT I SAY, ENOUGH, WHO KNOWS HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE KILLED WITH THAT PARTICULAR GUN?

SO I DON'T TOUCH A GUN ANYMORE.

BUT I WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT EVEN THOUGH I'M 4'7', EVEN THOUGH I GREW UP IN AN ORPHANAGE, I WENT ON A KIBBUTZ, I AM VERY MUCH OF A ZIONIST, I STILL GO EVERY YEAR, BUT I'M VERY HAPPY TO LIVE IN NEW YORK.

AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.

WHAT HAPPENED TO ME COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN NEW YORK.

THERE ARE THINGS EVEN ABOUT MY THREE MARRIAGES, THERE ARE THINGS THAT PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW, BECAUSE I CONCENTRATED ON EDUCATING, ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS AND ABOUT SEXUALITY.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A TEACHER, YOU STILL TEACH, YOU'RE TEACHING AT COLUMBIA.

AND AT HUNTER.

YOU TAUGHT AT YALE WHERE I TEACH NOW.

AND PRINCETON.

WE'LL LEAVE THE PRINCETON PEOPLE OUT OF THE CONVERSATION.

[ LAUGHTER ]

NO, I HAD A GOOD TIME.

I KNOW.

AS A TEACHER, YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE BACK IN THE '80s TO STEP UP AND START TALKING ABOUT AIDS AND TO RECOGNIZE IT FOR WHAT WE REALIZED IT WAS BUT AT A LATER STAGE, A CRISIS.

IT WAS.

A HUMAN HEALTH CRISIS.

WHY DID YOU FEEL SO COMFORTABLE COMING FORWARD AND DOING THAT?

WE DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT.

BUT ONE THING THAT I KNEW, I'M 4'7', I KNEW I HAVE TO STAND UP TO BE COUNTED ABOUT THE RESPECT FOR HOMOSEXUALITY, BECAUSE THAT'S FROM MY BACKGROUND, THAT I HAVE TO SAY EVERYBODY HAS TO BE RESPECTED.

AND THEN I WAS HORRIFIED THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH.

SO I HAD TO TALK ABOUT HOW CAREFUL YOU HAVE TO BE, TO USE CONDOMS, AND IT WASN'T POPULAR.

AND ONE SCENE IN THE MOVIE, I GOT ARRESTED, A CITIZEN ARREST BECAUSE I TALKED ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY, BECAUSE OF MY BACKGROUND AS A NAZI VICTIM, HAVING LOST MY ENTIRE FAMILY TO THE NAZIS DURING WORLD WAR II, THAT I DID NOT LIKE.

NOW I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IN THE FILM.

WHEN THE STATE TROOPER BROUGHT ME BACK TO THE MOTEL THAT EVENING AFTER THE LECTURE, FIRST OF ALL, I MADE THE LECTURE SO RIVETING, THE GUY WHO ARRESTED ME FORGOT TO ARREST ME DURING THE LECTURE, HE WAS SITTING THERE --

WAITING 'TIL THE END.

AT THE END HE CAME.

THE TROOPER SAID, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE ME TO THE AIRPORT THE NEXT MORNING, THE TROOPER SAID, DO YOU WANT ME TO STAY HERE OVERNIGHT?

I SAID, YES.

IT WAS IN A MOTEL.

THERE WERE TWO BEDROOMS.

I CALLED HIS WIFE.

I SAID, I'M KEEPING HIM OVERNIGHT, TOMORROW MORNING YOU'LL GET HIM BACK.

BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE SHOOK UP.

I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO COME TO THE AIRPORT TO DO THAT AGAIN.

THAT HAD TO DO WITH MY COMING OUT OF NAZI GERMANY.

SO THERE ARE THINGS IN THE MOVIE THAT I'M DELIGHTED BECAUSE IT ALSO SHOWS ME AS AN INDEDUCATOR MAINLY.

IT'S A FABULOUS FILM.

I THINK THE JOB THAT THE PEOPLE AT HULU DID IS MARVELOUS.

YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A STORYTELLER.

HULU IS WONDERFUL.

AND I NEED TO GET AN ACADEMY NOMINATION.

WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THAT FOR YOU.

IT'S A FABULOUS FILM.

IT SHOWS EVEN PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU, THEY'LL LEARN SO MUCH ABOUT YOU.

IT IS ALWAYS SUCH A PLEASURE TO SPEND SOME TIME CHATTING WITH YOU.

SEE YOU AGAIN.

IN NEW YORK?

WE'LL FOLLOW YOU.

AT THE MOVIES.

INDEED.

A REMINDER, THE DOCUMENTARY 'ASK DR. RUTH' WILL PREMIER ON HULU IN THE SPRING.

Announcer: FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY JAMES AND MERRYL TISCH SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III SYLVIA A. AND SIMON B. POYTA PROGRAMMING ENDOWMENT TO FIGHT ANTI-SEMITISM BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ ROSALIND P. WALTER BARBARA HOPE ZUCKERBERG AND BY -- CORPORATE FUNDING WAS PROVIDED BY MUTUAL OF AMERICA.

YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY.

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