L.I. REMAINS IDENTIFIED

January 05, 2019 at 4:30 am

Police are one step closer to solving the 60-year missing-persons mystery, now that a body was found buried in the basement of the missing man’s Long Island home. With the victim identified, the frantic search for his killer begins.

Aired on January 4 , 2019.

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>> IT'S EVERYTHING WE EXPECTED.
IT JUST NARROWS IT DOWN FOR
US A
LITTLE BIT.
I CAN FOLLOW-THROUGH WITH THE
KOREAN WAR VETERANS AND HAVE A
CERTIFICATE OF DEATH THAT WE CAN
NOW FOLLOW-THROUGH WITH A PROPER
BURIAL.
>> GOOD EVENING.
WELCOME TO "METROFOCUS."
I'M JACK FORD.
THAT IS MICHAEL CAROL, HIS
FAMILY IS BREATHING A SIGH OF
RELIEF AS A BIZARRE 65-YEAR-OLD
MURDER/MYSTERY HAUNTING THEM HAS
BEEN PARTIALLY SOLVED.
THAT FAMILY ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT
BECAME OF THEIR MISSING FATHER.
NOW THEY HAVE AN ANSWER, SORT
OF.
AND, IN FACT, THERE ARE ALSO A
LOT MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS
DECADE'S OLD APPARENT CRIME.
KOREAN WAR VETERAN GEORGE CAROL
DISAPPEARED FROM HIS LAKE GROVE
LONG ISLAND HOME IN 1961.
AFTER YEARS OF WONDERING WHAT
BECAME OF THEIR FATHER, AND IT
WOULD THEN, GEORGE CAROL IS NOW
ADULT SONS EVEN HIRED A PSYCHIC
TO HELP.
AND THEN THINGS STARTED TO GET
EVEN STRANGER.
HERE TO TELL US MORE ABOUT IT,
FILL US IN ON THE BACK STORY AND
LATEST NEWSDAY REPORTER MICHAEL
O'KEEFE.
WELCOME BACK TO YOU.
>> HI.
>> EACH TIME WE TALK, THIS GETS
STRANGER.
>> IT'S A VERY CURIOUS STORY.
>> IT IS.
CURIOUS.
>> YEAH.
>> LET'S START TO GIVE OUR
VIEWERS WHO MIGHT NOT HAVE
FOLLOWED THIS FROM THE BEGINNING
THAT BACK STORY WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO GEORGE CAROL, WE TALKED ABOUT
A KOREAN WAR VETERAN, DISAPPEARS
IN 1961.
AT THAT TIME, WAS ANYTHING DONE?
WERE THERE ANY SUSPICIONS?
>> THE POLICE SAY THEY ARE NO
RECORD OF ANYONE FILING A
MISSING PERSON'S REPORT.
GEORGE WAS THE FATHER OF FOUR
KIDS, TWO BOYS AND TWO GIRLS.
THE CHILDREN ALWAYS WONDERED
WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO HIM.
THEIR MOTHER TOLD THEM THAT
GEORGE JUST WENT OUT ONE DAY AND
DIDN'T COME HOME.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILY
REALLY WRESTLED WITH A LOT OF
DIFFERENT ISSUES.
HAD THEY BEEN ABANDONED BY THEIR
FATHER.
OTHERS THOUGHT HE CAME TO A MORE
NEFARIOUS END.
OTHERS SUGGESTED HE WAS BURIED
IN THE BASEMENT.
>> WHAT GOT THEM TO SAY ALL
THESE YEARS LATER, LET'S START
LOOKING INTO THIS AND HOW DID
THEY GO ABOUT LOOKING INTO IT?
>> THE MICHAEL CAROL PURCHASED A
HOUSE FROM HIS MOTHER IN THE
1980s.
HE'S ALWAYS WONDERED WHAT WAS
GOING ON, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE
STORIES ABOUT MY FATHER BEING
BURIED IN THE HOME TRUE?
AT ONE POINT A FEW YEARS AGO HE
HIRED A PSYCHIC WHO TOLD HIM
YOUR FATHER IS BURIED HERE.
JUST THIS PAST SUMMER HE
HIRED -- HE BROUGHT IN A TEAM OF
PARRA NORMAL INVESTIGATORS WHO
SAY THERE IS AN ENERGY IN THIS
HOUSE, FOR SURE.
>> DO WE KNOW WHETHER THE
PSYCHIC OR INVESTIGATORS HAD
BEEN GIVEN ANY INFORMATION BY
MICHAEL AND EVERYBODY ELSE
SUGGESTING THAT THE FATHER MIGHT
BE BURIED THERE OR DO WE NOT
KNOW WHAT THEIR CONVERSATION
WAS?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
CONVERSATIONS WERE.
I DO KNOW THAT THEY WERE -- THEY
WERE -- TURNS OUT THEY WERE
RIGHT.
>> THEY WERE POSITIVE ABOUT
SOMETHING THERE.
>> YEAH.
>> SO WHAT DID MICHAEL -- WHAT
DID THE FAMILY START TO DO THEN
AFTER THEY GOT THIS INFORMATION
MOST RECENTLY FROM THE
PARANORMAL INVESTIGATORS?
>> THEY HIRED SOMEONE WITH
GROUND PENETRATING RADAR TO LOOK
AT THE BASEMENT.
AND THIS GUY FOUND A DISTURBANCE
IN THE SOIL.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, A
TREE ROOT.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN AN ANIMAL
BURIED THERE.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BURIED
TREASURE.
BUT MICHAEL DECIDED THAT HE WAS
GOING TO DIG.
HE DUG.
HE STARTED TO TEAR UP THE
BASEMENT A LITTLE BIT.
AND HE THOUGHT HE MAY DO SOME
STRUCTURAL DAMAGE SO HE KIND OF
HELD OFF.
AND THEN HE HAD SOME HEALTH
ISSUES.
SO HIS SONS TOOK UP THAT WORK
AGAIN.
AND THEY DUG CLOSE TO WHERE THE
GUY WITH THE RADAR HAD
DETERMINED THERE WAS SOME SORT
OF DISTURBANCE.
BUT THE INTERESTING THING IS IT
WASN'T EXACTLY BELOW THAT SPOT.
IT WAS A LITTLE OVER.
THEY FOUND A PLACE, LIKE A
CONCRETE BOX ALMOST THAT THERE
WAS A WELL THERE AND CAPPED OFF
AND CONCRETE PUT AROUND IT.
AND RIGHT BEFORE HALLOWEEN THAT
IS WHERE MICHAEL CAROL'S SONS
FOUND THESE BONES.
>> LAST TIME YOU AND I TALKED
WAS AROUND THAT TIME.
AND HUMAN REMAINS WERE FOUND.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH REGARD TO
THEM SINCE THAT TIME?
>> THE SUFFOLK COUNTY POLICE
DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATED THIS.
THEY TOOK CONTROL OF THE
REMAINS.
>> BECAUSE THEY -- UP TO THIS
TIME THEY WERE NOT INVESTIGATING
AT ALL?
>> THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT THERE
WAS EVEN, YOU KNOW THAT, THE GUY
WAS MISSING.
>> RIGHT.
>> THEY TOOK THE REMAINS TO THE
MEDICAL EXAMINER AND THE MEDICAL
EXAMINER BROUGHT IN A FORENSIC
ANTHROPOLOGIST AND THEY
DETERMINED THIS WAS INDEED
GEORGE CAROL.
THEY IDENTIFIED THE REMAINS AS
GEORGE CAROL'S REMAINS.
>> WERE THEY ABLE TO MAKE ANY
DETERMINATION AS TO EITHER A
CAUSE OR MANNER OF DEATH?
>> YES.
THE SKULL HAD HAD A FRACTURE
THAT THEY THINK WAS CAUSED BY
BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA.
AND THE MEDICAL EXAMINER SAID
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN -- THAT IS
ONE CAUSE OF DEATH.
THERE COULD HAVE BEEN OTHERS.
SO MUCH OF THE BODY HAD
DECOMPOSED.
SO MUCH TISSUE WAS GONE.
HARD TO SAY IF THERE WERE OTHER
INJURIES.
THEY BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE OF THE
CAUSES OF DEATH.
>> SO THE POLICE NOW HAVE THAT
INFORMATION.
WHAT ARE THE POLICE -- WHAT HAVE
THE POLICE DONE WITH REGARD TO
THIS CASE?
>> THEY'RE TREATING THIS AS A
HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT SAID, THERE'S
NOT A LOT OF PLACES THEY CAN GO
WITH THIS BECAUSE SO MANY OF THE
PEOPLE WHO WERE -- WHO THEY MAY
HAVE WANTED TO QUESTION HAVE
PASSED AWAY.
THERE IS ONE INTERESTING PERSON
WHO JUST DIED THIS SUMMER THAT
POLICE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE
TALKED TO.
THE CAROLS' MOTHER, DOROTHY
CAROL, HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH A
MAN WHO WAS WORKING AS A
CONTRACTOR, A HANDYMAN AT THE
HOUSE AT THE TIME OF GEORGE'S
DISAPPEARANCE.
THEY'RE EXPANDING THE HOUSE AT
THE TIME.
HIS NAME IS RICHARD GARIS.
THEY GOT MARRIED AND MOVED IN
AND HAD ANOTHER SON AND IS NOW
PART OF THAT FAMILY.
RICHARD DIED NEAR THE MEXICAN
BORDER IN TEXAS OVER THE SUMMER.
THE POLICE SAID HE'S A PERSON WE
WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE TALKED
TO ABOUT THIS.
>> CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE.
I WAS A PROSECUTOR.
CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE TALKED TO
THE WIFE IF SHE WAS STILL ALIVE
AND HER HUSBAND AND HE WAS STILL
ALIVE.
SO WHAT DID THEY SAY AT THIS
POINT?
YOU SAID THE CHARACTER, IT IS A
HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION?
IS THERE ANYTHING FOR THEM TO
DO?
>> I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, CASE
MAYBE -- THERE'S NOT MUCH CAN
YOU DO REALLY.
IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN THIS
HAPPEN BEFORE.
THEY WANT TO CLEAR THEIR
CONSCIENCE.
MAYBE SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING
AND WILL COME FORWARD.
THERE IS A LOT OF QUESTIONS
ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP IN THAT
HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, WITH HE KNOW THIS HAS
BEEN REALLY A HORRIFYING
EXPERIENCE FOR GEORGE CAROL.
THIS HAS BROUGHT UP A LOT OF
EMOTIONS.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S MORE TO
THIS STORY AND WE HOPE THAT WE
HEAR FROM THEM AND WE HEAR FROM
ANYONE ELSE WHO MIGHT HAVE
INFORMATION ABOUT THIS IN THE
FUTURE.
>> THEY NEED TO TALK TO THE
PROSECUTION.
>> WE'LL TALK AS THIS CONTINUES
TO UNRAVEL.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
SPENDING TIME WITH ME.
>> TAKE CARE NOW.

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