TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

Last night a synagogue in Brooklyn was desecrated prior to a get-out-the-vote event, leaving the Prospect Heights neighborhood and the city on edge. We have the latest. Robert Bowers stands accused of the worst hate crime ever committed against the Jewish community in the history of the United States. We’re breaking down the case. Over 50,000 runners will be at the starting line this Sunday as the New York City Marathon begins. But, there’s a goal that has eluded participants to date. We’ll tell you what it is. On Monday, the trial against Mexican drug lord and notorious jail breaker, Joaquín Guzmán Loera, who is known as El Chapo, begins. We’ve got your preview. Bird watchers and the curious are flocking to see a rare duck, native to Japan, in Central Park. How did it wind up there?

Aired on November 2, 2018. 

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON 'METROFOCUS' -- HATE HITS HOME.

A SYNAGOGUE DESECRATED PRIOR TO A GET OUT THE VOTE EVENT IN BROOKLYN LEAVES PROSPECTS ON THE EDGE.

> THE PITTSBURGH MASSACRE.

ROBERT BAUERS STANDS ACCUSED OF CARRYING OUT THE DEADLIEST AIT CAN -- AIT CAN OF JEWS IN HISTORY.

WE LAY OUT THE CASE AGAINST HIM.

> OVER 50, 000 RUNNERS WILL BE AT THE START OF THE NEW YORK MARATHON THISS SUNDAY.

THERE'S ONE GOAL NO RUNNER IS LIKE TO TO ACHIEVE.

> THE CASE AGAINST EL CHAPO BEGINS.

WE HAVE A PREVIEW.

AND A CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE RARE KIND.

HOW DID THIS LITTLE GUY FROM CHINA WIND UP IN CENTRAL PARK?

HE'S GOT BIRD WATCHERS AND OTHER CURIOUS NEW YORKERS FLOCKING TO SEE HIM.

THOSE STORY AND MORE AS 'METROFOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

'METROFOCUS' IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JAMES AND MERRILL TISH.

SUE AND EDGAR WACHENHEIM III.

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> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO MANY OF-. I'M RAFAEL PI ROMAN.

ANTI-SEMITISM HIT CLOSE TO HOME ON THURSDAY WHEN A POLITICAL EVENT AT THE UNION TEMPLE SYNAGOGUE IN PROSPECT HEIGHTS BROOKLYN WAS CANCELED AFTER GRAFFITI WAS DISCOVERED IN THE BUILDING STAIRWELL THAT READ, KILL ALL THE JEWS.

IT HAPPENED LESS THAN A WEEK AFTER PEOPLE WERE SHOT AND KILLED AFTER WORSHIPPING AT THE SYNAGOGUE IN PITTSBURGH.

ROBERT BOWERS PLED NOT GUILTY TO THE CHARGES THAT COULD LAND HIM ON DEATH ROW.

A GRAND JURY ISSUED A 44-COUNT INDICTMENT CHARGING BOWERS WITH MURDER, HATE CRIMES, AND OTHER CRIMES.

PROSECUTORS ARE PUSHING FOR THE DEATH PENALTY, WHO EXPRESSED HATRED OF JEWS BEFORE AND AFTER THE ATTACK.

TO BREAK IT ALL DOWN FOR US, IT'S JACK FORD.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU IN THAT SEAT.

JACK, FIRST OF ALL, WHY IS THIS A FEDERAL CASE AND NOT A STATE CASE?

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

COULD BE A PENNSYLVANIA STATE COURT CASE.

COULD BE A MURDER CASE IN PENNSYLVANIA WITH ALL OF THE COUNTS THERE.

THE REASON NOW WHY PROSECUTORS DECIDED TO MAKE IT A FEDERAL CASE IS PENNSYLVANIA RIGHT NOW IS OPERATING WITH A MORATORIUM ON DEATH PENALTY CASES.

IT'S ONE OF THE STATES THAT DOES HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY.

THEY HAVE EXECUTED A SMALL HANDFUL OVER THE YEARS.

THE GOVERNOR RECENTLY SAID, WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WHOLE NOTION OF A DEATH PENALTY HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA.

IF WE ARE NOT UTILIZING IT, IT COSTS SO MUCH MONEY.

WE PUT A MORATORIUM ON IT.

PROSECUTORS SAY THERE IS A DEATH PENALTY CIRCUMSTANCES, AS YOU MENTIONED, IF YOU KILL SOMEBODY IN THE MIDST OF PURSUING THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, SO THE DECISION WAS MADE TO MAKE IT A FEDERAL MURDER CASE.

THAT WOULD BE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN PENNSYLVANIA SAYING, HERE'S HOW WE ARE GOING HANDLE IT.

IT'S GOING TO PROCEED AS A FEDERAL CASE.

HE PLEAD NOT GUILTY, BUT HE WAS CAUGHT AFTER A FIRE FIGHT WITH COPS.

AS I SAID IN THE DESTRUCTION, HE KEPT SCREAMING, THE JEWS MUST DIE WHILE HE WAS ATTACKING AND THEN AFTERWARD.

HOW DOES HE PLEAD NOT GUILTY?

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THIS IS A FIRST PROCEDURAL.

STEP.

IT'S NOT OF ANY SUBSTANCE.

HE JUST GOT LAWYERS.

THIS IS BASICALLY AN ARRAIGNMENT.

THE PURPOSE IS TO GET HIM IN COURT, SAY, YOU ARE INDICTED.

HERE ARE THE CHARGES AGAINST YOU.

YOU HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED OF THEM.

EVEN IF YOU DON'T ENTER A PLEA -- SOMETIMES DEFENDANTS WON'T SAY ANYTHING.

THE COURT OR LAWYER WILL ENTER A PLEA FOR THEM ANY WAYS.

IT'S JUST THE FIRST STEP IN A LONG AND COMPLICATED PROCESS.

WHAT COULD BE --

CAUGHT IN A FIRE FIGHT.

CLEARLY THERE WITH WEAPONS.

THERE'S GOING TO BE LITTLE DIFFICULTY FOR PROSECUTORS TO PROVE HE WAS THE GUNMAN HERE.

IF YOU'RE HIS DISTRICT ATTORNEY, THE QUESTION, IS HOW CAN I DEFEND THIS?

ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT A DEATH PENALTY.

I SUSPECT YOU'RE GOVERNING TO FIX ON HIS MENTAL STATE, MENTAL CONDITION.

THAT BRINGS YOU TO WHAT YOU REFER TO AS AN INSANITY DEFENSE.

I THINK PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS.

IT'S NOT EASY TO SAY, MY CLIENT SUFFERS FROM A MENTAL PROBLEM.

ANYBODY WHO COULD TAKE ANYBODY'S LIFE MUST HAVE SOME SORT OF MENTAL ISSUE.

BUT FOR AN INSANITY PROCESS, YOU HAVE TO PROVE MORE THAN THAT.

MENTAL ILLNESS OR DISEASE, THAT'S YOUR STARTING POINT.

IT'S THAT THAT MENTAL ILLNESS OR DISEASE PREVENTS SOMEONE FROM UNDERSTANDING THE CONSEQUENCE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THAT'S YOU THINK YOU'RE HOLDING A BANANA.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN YOU TAKE SOMEBODY'S LIFE.

THAT'S ONE PROBLEM.

THE OTHER IS, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S WRONG.

INSTANCES WHERE PARENTS HAVE TAKEN THE LIVES OF THEIR CHILDREN.

THEY TOOK THE LIVES OF THEIR CHILDREN, BUT THEY BELIEVED GOD TOLD THEM TO.

THE DEFENDANT KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING BUT DIDN'T BELIEVE IT WAS WRONG OR WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES MIGHT BE.

HOW DOES A LAWYER GO AROUND PROVING ANY OF THAT?

IT'S ALWAYS HARD.

YOU HEAR TALK ABOUT AN INSANITY DEFENSE BEING USED.

RARELY ARE THEY SUCCESSFUL.

AND THE REASON IS THE NOMENCLATURE IN THE COURT SYSTEM.

MOST REQUIRE A JURY TO SAY, NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY.

THAT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ADMIT THE DEFENDANT DID IT TO INTRODUCE THE INSANITY.

I TRIED A NUMBER OF THESE CASES.

THOSE BELIEF ASKING JURORS TO SAY NOT GUILTY WHEN CLEARLY HE COMMITTED THE ACT IS HARD.

WHAT IF THIS BECOMES INSANITY?

WHAT HIS LAWYERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IS SOMEHOW GET INTO HIS MIND, LOOK WHAT HE'S DONE IN HIS PAST.

YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING THEY WOULD RELY ON.

AFTER THE SHOOTING IN THE HOSPITAL, HE'S STILL RANTING AND RAVING.

I GUESS THE DOCTORS --

THEY'RE TRYING TO SAVE HIS LIFE.

IF I'M A DISTRICT ATTORNEY, I WOULD ENLIST THE AID OF A PSYCHIATRIST AND TELL YOU, WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT HIM?

DID HE NOT REALIZE WHAT HE WAS DOING?

THEY'RE HARD CASES TO WIN FROM A DEFENSE PERSPECTIVE.

B BECAUSE OF THAT NOTION IT'S NOT JUST A MENTAL DISEASE OR ILLNESS.

IT'S SO MUCH MORE.

IS THERE ANYTHING HIS LAWYERS CAN DO BESIDE INSANITY?

IT'S HARD BECAUSE THERE'S NO REAL DOUBT HE WAS THE SHOOTER.

WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE THEM DO AND GO IN AND SAY, EARLY STAGES, HOW ABOUT THIS, WE'LL PLEAD GUILTY TO EVERYTHING, TAKE THE DEATH PENALTY OFF THE TABLE.

WE HAVE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE THE FAMILIES OF VICTIMS HAVE SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO PERSON TO BE SUBJECTED TO THE DEATH PENALTY.

OUR LOVED ONE WOULD NOT WANT THAT.

THAT HAPPENED IN CHARLESTON.

EXACTLY.

IF I'M THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY, MY FIRST CHORE IS TO KEEP HIM FROM BEING EXECUTED.

GO IN, SAY, WE'LL SAVE EVERYBODY.

HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE TRIAL -- TAKE THAT PENALTY OFF THE TABLE, WE'LL PLEAD GUILTY.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE FIRST THING YOU SEE.

THE GOVERNMENT MIGHT BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY SAY, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

MULTIPLE MURDERS IN WE CANNOT TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE YOU TAKE YOUR SHOT.

AND WE'LL TAKE OURS.

PRESIDENT TRUMP WASTED NO TIME TO CALL FOR THE DEATH PENALTY FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL, AND HE SAID THAT IF THE DEATH PENALTY WERE FOR WIDELY USED THAT INCIDENCES LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN LESS.

FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE IS THAT THE CASE?

WHAT RESEARCH HAS TOLD US -- I DEFENDED THE FIRST CASE IN THE NORTHEAST BACK IN THE 1980s IN NEW JERSEY.

TRIED A NUMBER SINCE, LECTURED ON THEM, TALKED ABOUT THEM.

RESEARCH TOLD US IN THE BEGINNING THE NOTION BEHIND THE DEATH PENALTY WAS DETERRENCE AND PUNISHMENT.

RESEARCH HAS SHOWN US PRETTY DEFINITIVELY THAT THE DEATH PENALTY DOESN'T NECESSARILY ACT AS A DETERRENT BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY EMOTIONAL EXPLOSIONS, LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY.

MOST PEOPLE SAY THE CHANCES OF IT ACTING AS A DETERRENT AREN'T VERY SIGNIFICANT.

SO WE COME DOWN TO THE ISSUE OF PUNISHMENT.

WHAT IS THE RIGHT PUNISHMENT WE AS A SOCIETY ARE GOING ACCEPT FOR SOMEONE TAKING SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE?

IN THIS CASE, TAKING A NUMBER OF LIVES.

THAT REALLY NOW IS THE DEBATE ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY, WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A LEGITIMATE PUNISHMENT.

GENERALLY SPEAKING THERE MIGHT BE INSTANCES WHERE SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY, I BETTER NOT DO THIS, BECAUSE I MIGHT DIE MICE, BUT MOST OF RESEARCH SUGGESTED IT DOES NOT ACT AS A DETERRENT.

I KNOW THIS IS A LONGS PRO, BUT WHAT'S YOUR GUESS?

HOW IS THIS GOING END UP?

I WOULD EXPECT UNLESS YOU GET SIGNIFICANT PUSHBACK FROM THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS, THE GOVERNMENT IS IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAVE TO SAY, LOOK, WE HAVE A DEATH PENALTY.

LEGISLATION HAS CREATED IT.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE THROUGH THEIR LEGISLATORS.

IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE IT IN A CASE WHERE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE SLAUGHTERED.

COLD-BLOODED SLAUGHTER -- IF WE ARE IN THE GOING TO USE THE DEATH PENALTY NOW, WHY DO WE HAVE ONE?

GIVEN THAT ARGUMENT, THE PROSECUTION IS GOING SAY, WE ARE GOING PROCEED WITH THIS AS A DEATH PENALTY CASE ABSENT OBJECT FROM THE VICTIMS' FAMILIES.

THIS IS GOING GET TRIED OUT.

THE ONLY DEAL WE'LL OFFER YOU IS DEATH.

THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY SAYS, WE GOT NOTHING TO LOSE.

LET'S TRY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

THANKS SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

> THE NEW YORK CITY MARATHON IS THIS SUNDAY.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE MODERN MARATHON BEGAN?

WASN'T ATHENS.

BEGAN HERE IN NEW YORK CITY IN 1908 WHERE A RACE IN FRONT OF A SOLDOUT CROWD IN MADISON SQUARE GARDEN CREATED MODERN MARATHON MANIA.

THE SUNDAY THE NEW YORK CITY MARATHON TRAVELS THROUGH ALL SIX BOROUGHS.

FOR MOST, FINISHING IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT, BUT FOR THE ELITE, FINISHING IN UNDER TWO HOURS IS A REACH.

WHILE THAT MAY NOT SEEM AS MUCH OF A TIME DIFFERENCE TO COME, SOME QUESTION WHETHER A TWO-HOUR MARATHON IS EVEN POSSIBLE.

IN HIS BOOK 'TWO HOURS' ED CAESAR EXPLAINS WHY REACHING THAT TWO-HOUR MARK IS SUCH A DIFFICULT TASK AND WHY THERE'S SUCH A DISPARITY BETWEEN THE LARGE NUMBER OF RUNNERS WHITE, MIDDLE CLASS AND THOSE ELITE BORN IN EASTERN FRICK.

WE NEW YORKERS TEND TO TAKE CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING.

FOR THE MODERN MORE THON, DO WE DESERVE IT?

ABSOLUTELY NEW YORK DESERVES IT.

THAT RACE IN 1908 PUT DOWN THE FOUNDATIONS FOR THE SPORT AS WE KNOW IT TODAY AND APPARENTLY WAS A CRAZY NIGHT AT THE OLD GARDEN.

TEAMS OF FANS SHOUTING FOR THEIR GUY.

A RIOT NARROWLY AVERTED AT THE END.

THAT WAS THE START OF IT ALL.

THE SUBJECT OF YOUR BOOK, TELL ME IN YOUR WORDS WHAT IT IS.

IS IT ALL ABOUT HOW TO GET TO THE WITH-HOUR MARATHON?

IT IS ABOUT THAT.

IF THERE'S EVER A RACE WE DPOKT SEE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT WHAT MAKES THE WORLD'S GREATEST MARATHON RUNNERS, WHAT THEIR LIVES ARE LIKE AND WHAT'S AT STAKE FOR THEM WHEN THEY RACE.

WHY DO YOU CHOOSE TO RUN IT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE?

MOSTLY FROM KEN YARKS SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE SUPER RUNNER JEFFREY WATAI FROM KENYA.

HE RAN 2:03.02 IN BOSTON, WHICH WAS THEN THE FASTEST TIME EVER RUN.

BROKE THE COURSE RECORD HERE BY NEARLY THREE MINUTES.

I THOUGHT IF I OLD THE STORY THROUGH HIS EYES, YOU WOULD GET A WHY OF WHAT ALL THESE GUYS GO THROUGH AND WHERE THEY COME FROM.

WHERE DO THEY COME FROM?

THEY COME FROM AN ACE PLA OF MOSTLY POOR FAMILIES IN THE EASTERN VALLEY OF KENYA.

THEY HAVE CERTAIN PHYSIOLOGICAL STRAIGHTS THAT MIGHT HELP THEM.

WHERE DO YOU COME DOWN, NATURE OR NUCLEAR THURSDAY CH INSURE.

NURTURE.

I DON'T THINK THE QUALITIES THEY HAVE GOT ARE UNIQUE TO THEM.

THEY MAKE IT WORK FOR THEM.

THEY'RE VERY POOR, SO THE INCENTIVE OF A PAYCHECK OF A MARATHON IS A BIG INCENTIVE.

WHAT IS THE PAYROLL.

THE WINNER OF THIS COMING MARATHON, WHAT IS HE LIKELY TO TAKE HOME?

HE'LL BE PAID TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THEY PAY HIM TO COME.

MORE THAN $100, 000 JUST TO TURN UP.

YOU'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT AGAIN TO WIN.

COURSE RECORD GETS YOU MORE MONEY, A SHOE SPONSOR IS GOING KICK IN MORE.

IF YOU'RE A TOP GUY, YOU COULD EARN $1 MILLION A YEAR.

MOST OF THESE GUYS WHERE THE AVERAGE EARNING IS LESS THAN $800 A YEAR FOR A FAMILY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MONEY THAT CAN CHANGE NOT ONLY THEIR LIVES BUT THE LIVES OF EVERYONE AROUND THEM.

WHEN ARE WE GOING SEE A BETWEEN-HOUR MARATHON?

I'M GOING PUT MY NECK OUT AND SAY 2035.

WHAT IF IN THIS MARATHON IN NEW YORK SOMEBODY BREAKS THE TWO-HOUR RECORD?

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT?

I THINK I MIGHT SEE A PIG FLYING OVER THE FINISH LINE BEFORE I SEE THAT.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN TO YOU, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEBODY DO BREAK THAT TWO-HOUR RECORD.

THE BOOK IS CALLED 'TWO HOURS, THE QUEST TO RUN THE IMPABL MARATHON.' THANK YOU SO MUCH.

> EL CHAPO.

IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE HEARD THE ENTIRE STORY ABOUT THE NOTORIOUS DRUG LORD, CHANCES ARE YOU HAVEN'T.

BUT VICE NEWS HAS THE INFORMATION YOU HAVEN'T HEARD IN THE COURTROOM OR SEEN IN THE HEADLINES.

THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH SPOTIFY IN ON NEW PODCAST CHAPO.

GUZMAN'S INTERVIEWS UNFETTERED WITH SOME RISKS LIVES TO TELL THE STORY.

IT'S HOSTED BY KEEGAN HOWARD WHO WILL BE ONLY ONE OF FIVE REPORTERS ALLOWED IN THE COURTROOM FOR THE JURY SELECTION PART OF THE TRIAL.

IT BEGINS ON NOVEMBER 5th.

WE ARE PLEASED TO WELCOME YOU.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

WHY IS THIS STORY -- YOU'RE A JOURNALIST, HAVE BEEN FOR A LONG TIME HAVE DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS STORY THAT MAKES IT SO COMPELLING AND INTERESTING?

WELL, CHAPO HAS BEEN ON THE SCENES FOR THREE DECADES NOW, 30 PLUS YEARS.

AND IT'S JUST BEEN ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER THAT BUILDS HIS LEGEND.

PRISON ESCAPES, MEETINGS WITH SEAN PENN BE KIKO CASTILLO.

BUT HE HAS A KNACK FOR DOING IT BIGGER AND MORE SENSATIONAL THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE TALK ABOUT BIGGER AND BETTER BUT CHAPO MEANS SHORTY.

YOU EXPECT AM TOWERING PRESENCE, BUT YOU GET A LITTLE GUY WHO'S ABLE TO GET OUT OF PRISONS IN HOLES IN HIS PRISON CELL.

GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON HIM, PERSONALLY.

YOU'RE REFERENCING HIS PERHAPS MOST NOTORIOUS ESCAPE IN WHICH HE ESCAPED THROUGH A MILE LONG TUNNEL.

HE HAD A WHOLE THAT CAME UP INTO THE FLOOR OF HIS PRISON CELL AND DUCKED OUT THROUGH THAT.

HAD A MOTOR CYCLE IN THE TUNNEL HE RODE OUT.

IT'S SPECTACULAR THINGS LIKE THAT THAT IF HOLLYWOOD SCRIPTED IT YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT BUT IT HAPPENED WITH HIM.

WHY IS THIS TRIAL TAKING PLACE IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN BROOKLYN.

FOR THE UNITED STATES' PART, CHAPO HAD BEEN DETAIN IN THE MEXICO AND HAD BEEN INTENDED TO BE BROUGHT TO TRIAL IN MEXICO.

HIS SECOND ESCAPE IT CAN ONE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THROUGH THE TUNNEL, I THINK MADE THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT REALIZE IN ORDER TO BRING THIS PERSON TO JUSTICE HE HAS TO GO TO A DIFFERENT LEGAL SYSTEM.

AS FOR WHY BROOKLYN, HE HAD SEVEN INDICTMENTS IN COURTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

BROOKLYN HAD A COMBINATION OF FACTORS.

ONE BEING LORETTA LYNCH WAS FROM BROOKLYN, SO WHEN THIS CASE CAME TO THE UNITED STATES, SHE DIRECTED IT TO HER OLD TURF.

BROOKLYN ALSO HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING IN NEW YORK, AND I THINK THE U.S.

GOVERNMENT WANTS THIS TO BE A HIGH PROFILE CASE TO SAY, HEY, WE ARE BRINGING IN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE MAJOR DRUG DEALERS THE KINGPINS AND BRINGING THEM TO JUSTICE.

THEY CAN MAXIMIZE MEDIA ATTENTION BY IT BEING IN NEW YORK.

ALSO HAS HIGH SECURITY FEDERAL JAIL IN MANHATTAN.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PODCAST.

THE IDEA BEHIND DOING IT AND WHY YOU HOSTED THE PODCAST WOULD BE SUCH AN EFFECTIVE VEHICLE FOR INFORMING PEOPLE ABOUT THE TRIAL.

WE HAVE EIGHT EPISODES OF THE SHOW.

EACH ONE IS ABOUT 30 MINUTES LONG AS YOU GET INTO A LEVEL OF DEPARTMENT AND NUANCE YOU COULDN'T DO IN A SERIES OF PRINT STORIES OR TELEVISION PIECES WHICH ARE ONLY A FEW MINUTES LONG.

WE WANT TO GO BEYOND WHAT PEOPLE HAVE HEARD BEFORE, DEBUNK SOME OF THE MYTHS AROUND CHAPO AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, TALK TO PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY HIM AND BY THE DLUG WAR.

I MENTIONED THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF CADANGER TO PEOPLE TELLING THESE STORIES AND REPORTERS REPORTING ON THEM.

HAVE PEOPLE BEEN RELUCTANT TO TALK?

RELUCTANT TO TALK.

IT HELPS WE ARE AUDIO.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR FACE ON CAMERA.

JUST GETTING ACCESS TO CRIME FIGURES IN MEXICO IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE OF THATFUL T.

THEN THE DANGER COMPONENT CERTAINLY FOR MEXICAN REPORTERS -- MY COUNTER PART KNOWS HOW DANGEROUS IT CAN BE FOR MEXICAN JOURNALISTS.

HE WORKS FOR A NEWSPAPER IN SINA LOA ONE OF CHAPO'S AREAS.

HIS COWORKER WAS MURDERED IN THE AFTERMATH OF CHAPO'S EXTRA DECISION TO THE UNITED STATES.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANTED TO BRING TO AWARENESS IS THERE ARE REPORTERS IN MEXICO PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINES ON A DAILY BASES TO BRING OUT THE TRUTH.

YOU TALK IN THE FIRST PODCAST ABOUT THE EXTRAORDINARY SECURITY MEASURES THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED HERE.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT FOR US.

SINCE HIS EXTRA DECISION IN JANUARY 2017, HE'S BEEN HELD AT THE MCC METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER, WHICH IS IN MANHATTAN.

THERE'S A FLOOR ON THAT, TEN SOUTH, THAT IS CALLED LITTLE GITMO BECAUSE THEY HAVE HELD TERRORISM SUSPECTS THAT ARE ON TRIAL IN MANHATTAN.

SO IN ORDER TO GET HIM TO HIS COURT, WHICH IS IN BROOKLYN, THEY HAVE BEEN SHUTTING DOWN THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE IN THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON, WHICH HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE FOR TRAFFIC.

I'M SURE THE COMMUTERS ARE DELIGHTED ABOUT THAT.

FOR THE PURPOSES OF HIS TRIAL, THEY FOUND AUNSPECIFIED ACCOMMODATION.

THEY'RE GOING KEEP HIM IN BROOKLYN AT THE CROUSE PROBABLY IN THE HOLDING CELLS OF BUILDING.

YOU CAN EXPECT AROUND THAT AREA OF BROOKLYN, PRETTY HIGH SECURITY IN TERMS OF HOMELAND SECURITY SHUTTING DOWN THE COURTHOUSE.

IN LOOKING AT THE IMPACT HIS ARREST HAS HAD, PROSECUTORS TALK ABOUT WHAT A SIGNIFICANT FIGURE HE WAS IN THE DRUG TRADE.

ARE WE ABLE TO FIND THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY DEDIMINUTION IN THE TRADE SINCE HE'S BEEN TAKEN OUT OF PLAY?

IT'S AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC WE EXPLORE LATER ON IN THE SERIES.

HE'S HELD TO BE THE MOST FAMOUS, THE MOST POWERFUL, THE PABLO ESCOBAR OF OUR TIME.

HE'S TAKEN OFF THE STREETS AND IT SEEMS NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

DRUGS ARE STILL AS READILY AVAILABLE AS THEY WERE WHEN HE WAS FREE.

IT HAS HAD TO IMPACT ON PRICE, PURITY --

VIOLENCE?

IF ANYTHING, IT'S GOTTEN WORSE SINCE HIS EXTRA DECISION.

WE HOPE PEOPLE WALK AWAY ASK, IS THIS REALLY WORTH IT?

WHAT'S THE POINT?

HE HAS UNDOUBTEDLY IT SEEMS COMMITTED MANY CRIMES AND DESERVES TO BE BROUGHT JUSTICE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IS IT WORTH IT FOR THE U.S.

TO BE GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS?

IT'S GOING TO BE A FASCINATING TRIAL, A FASCINATING CASE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

YOU'RE DOING A MARVELOUS JOB.

THE PODCAST GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BREADTH OF THE STORY, DETAIL WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

REMINDER, LISTEN TO THE PODCAST CHAPO.

TO FIND OUT HOW, VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT METRO FOCUS.ORG.

> BEFORE WE SIGN OFF, WITH YOU NEED YOU, LITERALLY.

'METROFOCUS' IS ABOUT ALL OF US -- FAMILIES, COMMUNITIES AND OUR VIBRANT, EVER CHANGING COMMUNITY.

WE INVITE YOU TO SHARE YOUR VIDEOS, STILLS, WHATEVER IT IS THAT CAP YOU ARE WHICHES THE ROMANCE, THE ENERGY OF THE METRO AREA.

TODAY'S FOCUS?

THIS LITTLE GUY.

HE'S A MANDARIN DUCK, A NATIVE OF EAST ASIA.

HE SOMEHOW WOUND UP IN CENTRAL PARK.

THE FANTASTIC FOWL CAPTURED HEARTS AND IMAGINATIONS SINCE HE WAS FIRST SPOTTED NEAR THE PARK'S POND ON OCTOBER 10th.

THE BEAUTY OF THE BIRD, HIS MULTICOLORED PUNK HAIR SHOWS COOL, AS DOES THE PURPOSE ACROSS HIS CHEST.

HIS BILL IS PINK AND HIS HEAD SHINES LIKE AN EMERALD IN THE SUN.

HE'S A WONDER AND CERTAINLY MADE AN IMPACT ON OUR CITY AFTER A WEEK THAT HAS LEFT MANY OF US A LITTLE WORN AROUND THE EDGES.

WHERE DOES HE COME FROM?

WAS HE SOMEONE'S PET?

DID HE ESCAPE FROM A ZOO?

ONLY HE KNOWS FOR SURE.

AND HE'S NOT QUACKING.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE GLAD HE'S AROUND.

WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK GUS CARRIE AND THE MANHATTAN BIRD ALERT FOR SHARING WITH US AND ENDING OUR WEEK ON A BRIGHT NOTE.

WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO SHARE WITH US AS WELL.

STILLS AND VIDEO ARE ALL WELCOME.

THE ADDRESS -- UNTIL THEN, I'M RAFAEL PI ROMAN.

GOOD NIGHT.

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