EXPLORE “OTHER WORLDS”

October 17, 2018 at 5:15 am

The Great American Read takes us into the unknown to discover “Other Worlds.” Join us for the journey.

Aired on October 16, 2018.

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> SUMMERS CAN GO ON FOR
DECADES AND WINTERS FOR A
LIFETIME AS THE STRUGGLE FOR THE
IRON THRONE CONTINUES IN "GAME
OF THRONES."
>> THE TV SHOW IS BASED OFF
GEORGE R.R. MARTIN'S BEST
SELLING NOVEL.
EVEN THOUGH THIS POPULAR FANTASY
WORLD MAY BE FICTION, THE
CENTRAL THEME'S CHARACTERS FEEL
ALL TOO REAL.
HERE TO EXPLORE HOW ONE OF
AMERICA'S FAVORITE NOVELS ABOUT
OTHER WORLDS REFLECTS OUR OWN
WORLD IS CO-HOST OF TALK THE
THRONES, THE EXECUTIVE EDITOR
FOR THE RINGER, MALORY REUBEN.
WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
>> HELLO.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
GREAT TO BE HERE.
>> FIRST, VERY QUICKLY, I WANT
YOU TO SORT OF EXPLAIN WHAT IS
THE RINGER?
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU DO THAT
MAKES YOU SUCH AN EXPERT ON
"GAME OF THRONES"?
>> HOW LONG DO WE HAVE?
VERY QUICKLY, THE RINGER IS A
SPORTS POP CULTURE, TECH,
NATIONAL AFFAIRS, GENERAL
INTEREST WEBSITE THAT COVERS
REALLY EVERYTHING AS LONG AS WE
THINK IT MATTERS.
WE HAVE A PODCAST AND VIDEO
PRESENCE, AS WELL.
TALK OF THRONES IS OUR "GAME OF
THRONES" AFTER SHOW.
>> CAN YOU CONDENSE WHAT THE
SHOW IS ABOUT?
>> WELL, IT IS SORT OF ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE TO CONDENSE.
THE STORY ITSELF IS A SPRAWLING
EPIC THAT USES FANCY ELEMENTS
LIKE DRAGONS, WAR GAMES TO TAP
INTO WHAT ARE THE MOST HUMAN AND
UNIVERSAL THEMES AND QUESTIONS
IN ALL OF LIFE, THINGS LIKE
POWER, LEGACY, FAMILY, COURAGE,
CHOICE.
>> FOR SO MANY OF THESE EITHER
MOVIES OR TELEVISION SERIES THAT
ARE BASED ON A BOOK, THERE IS
ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOME THINGS
THAT DON'T TRANSLATE TO THE
SCREEN THAT YOU ARE MISSING FROM
THE BOOK.
AS AN EXPERT ON ALL THINGS "GAME
OF THRONES," WHAT WOULD YOU SAY
ARE SOME OF THE PARTS OF THE
SHOW OR FACTORS OF THE SHOW THAT
ARE REALLY BETTER EXPLAINED IN
THE BOOK?
>> IT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
THE ANSWER HAS SORT OF CHANGED
EACH YEAR AS THE SHOW HAS
EVOLVED AND ADVANCED AND THE
BOOK HAS REMAINED STAGNANT.
WE ARE NOW 67 EPISODES.
THE LAST NOVEL CAME OUT IN 2011.
WHEN GEORGE R. MARTIN WROTE THE
BOOKS ONE THING HE DISCUSSED AT
LENGTH IS THAT HE SOUGHT TO
CREATE SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT
ADAPTABLE.
THE BOOKS CONTAIN PEOPLE, PLACES
AND THINGS THAT WILL JUST NEVER
BE ON THE SHOW BECAUSE THE SCOPE
OF THE NAUOVELS ARE TOO LONG, T
DENSE, ALL IN A GOOD WAY, THE
WAY THAT I LOVE.
YOU HAVE TO STREAM LINE THE
PRODUCT FOR IT TO BE REMOTELY
ACCESSIBLE AS A TELEVISION SHOW.
I THINK THE ONLY OTHER
DIFFERENCE THAT I WILL HIGHLIGHT
IS THAT I THINK THE SHOW
INCREASINGLY HAS LESS CORE
FANTASY ELEMENTS THAN THE SHOW
HAS.
IF THE SHOW WERE DRAGONS AND ICE
BEINGS AND BOYS WHO CAN SEE
ACROSS TIME AND SPACE.
INCREASINGLY IT IS MORE ABOUT
INTERPERSONAL DRAMA AND THE
POLITICS OF IT.
>> ONE THING I INDEFINITELY
FINDING IS THAT NOTHING EXISTS
IN A VACUUM.
SO WHATEVER THE ISSUES ARE OF
THE DAY, OF THE MOMENT THAT A
SHOW OR A MOVIE IS BEING CREATED
IN, IT CREEPS INTO THE
PRODUCTION.
ARE THERE ASPECTS OF OUR CURRENT
CULTURAL THAT CREEP INTO THE
SHOW EITHER SEXISM OR CLASSISM
OR WHAT HAVE YOU IN.
>> I THINK THE ANSWER IS BROADLY
YES, ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I WOULD EVEN PAN BACK A STEP
FURTHER.
THAT IS PART OF WHAT MAKES THE
GREAT AMERICAN READ SERIES SO
COMPELLING IS THAT PART OF THE
REASON THAT WE LOVE STORIES AND
I THINK FANTASY STORIES IN
PARTICULAR IS THAT THEY ALLOW US
TO UNLOCK SOMETHING ABOUT REAL
LIFE AND ABOUT OURSELVES.
AND I THINK IT IS IMPERATIVE TO
REMAIN COGNIZANT OF NEVER
CHEAPENING A REAL LIFE MOVEMENT
OR MOMENT BY COMPARING IT TO
SOMETHING FICTIONAL.
BUT I THINK IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT
THERE ARE LESSONS TO BE FOUND IN
GREAT STORIES AND GREAT FANTASY
WORKS AND READERS AND VIEWERS
ALIKE TURN TO THE STORIES
BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE
WARM SHIFT IN PERSPECTIVE OR
THAT ONE ADDED INGREDIENT.
>> THAT IS A GREAT NOTE TO LEAVE
IT ON.
I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
JOINING US AND GIVING US SOME
DEEPER INSIGHT INTO "GAME OF
THRONES."
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> MY PLEASURE.
>> FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE
GREAT AMERICAN READ, VISIT OUR
WEBSITE AT METROFOCUS.ORG.

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