TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

Governor Andrew Cuomo easily defeated Cynthia Nixon, and some of the most powerful state senate incumbents also lost their races. Join us as we explore the ramifications of yesterday’s primaries. The gubernatorial race continues. Republican challenger, Dutchess County Executive Marcus Molinaro, will square off against Gov. Cuomo. But, what did yesterday’s primaries tell us about Molinaro’s chances? We’ll get to the bottom of it. She was fatally pushed onto subway tracks almost 20 years ago. Now Kendra Webdale’s killer has been released from prison. New York Magazine and The Marshall Project have teamed up to look at the case.

Aired on September 14, 2018. 

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> TONIGHT ON 'METROFOCUS.'

A LANDSLIDE VICTORY.

GOVERNOR ANDREW CUOMO EASILY DEFEATED CYNTHIA NIXON AND SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL SENATE INCUMBENTS ALSO DOWN IN DEFEAT.

AND TALK WITH REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER MARK MOEL NAURRO.

WHAT DID THE PRIMARIES TELL US ABOUT HIS CHANCES OF BECOMING NEXT GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK.

> KENDRA'S LAW.

FATALLY PUSHED ON SUBWAY TRACKS, NOW THE KILLER RELEASED FROM PRISON.

'NEW YORK' MAGAZINE AND MARSHALL PROJECT HAVE TEAMED UP TO LOOK AT PROJECT AND AFTERMATH.

'METROFOCUS' STARTS NOW.

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I'M RAFAEL PI ROMAN.

YESTERDAY'S PRIMARIES WERE A BIG WIN FOR GOVERNOR CUOMO BUT BIGGER LOSS FOR A NUMBER OF INCUMBENT DEMOCRATS HOPING TO RETURN TO WASHINGTON NEXT YEAR.

EASILY DEFEATED CYNTHIA NIXON, CLAIMING THE NOMINATION AND SETTING UP A FACE-OFF WITH REPUBLICAN MARK MOLINARO.

THE NIGHT DID NOT GO WELL FOR MANY DEMOCRAT INCUMBENTS IN THE NEW YORK SENATE.

SIX MEMBERS OF THE INDEPENDENT DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE WHO COLLABORATED WITH REPUBLICANS LOST THEIR PRIMARIES, INCLUDING JEFF KLEIN.

ONE OF ALBANY'S MOST POWERFUL POLITICIANS LOST TO 32-YEAR-OLD PROGRESSIVE WHO RODE AWAY ON ENTHUSIASM AND GRASSROOTS SUPPORT TO VICTORY.

SIGN OF UNREST WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY.

TO BREAK IT DOWN, EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF THE GAZETTE AND REPORTER AT POLITICAL NEW YORK.

WELCOME TO YOU BOTH.

LAURA, HEADLINES OUT OF YESTERDAY?

THE BLUE WAVE STOPS HERE.

AT LEAST AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET.

GOVERNOR CUOMO AND HIS ENTIRE SLATE OF CANDIDATES HE WAS BACKING FOR STATEWIDE OFFICES, LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR AND ATTORNEY GENERAL, ALL WERE VICTORIOUS LAST NIGHT.

AND GOVERNOR WON BY A HEALTHY MARGIN.

30-SOMETHING POINTS.

CYNTHIA NIXON DIDN'T DO BETTER THAN THE VIRTUALLY UNKNOWN LAW PROFESSOR IN 2014 DESPITE HIGH NAME RECOGNITION AND LONGER CAMPAIGN.

HE BEAT BACK QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO PUT BIG NUMBERS ON THE BOARD.

LAURA IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS STRONG FOR STATEWIDE OFFICES.

BUTS ALLUDED, STATE SENATE RACES, MANY LOST TO PROGRESSIVE CHALLENGERS.

DICHOTOMY THAT PROGRESSIVE WING OF THE PARTY IN NEW YORK WASN'T ABLE TO TOPPLE GOVERNOR CUOMO, SPENT OVER $20 MILLION IN THE RACE WE HAVE TO NOTE.

THAT THE DIFFERENCE?

HE AND HI FELLOW CANDIDATES SURVIVED WHILE OTHER INCUMBENTS WERE DEFEATED?

NOT AS SIMPLY AS THAT BUT PART OF THE EQUATION.

SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH CYNTHIA NIXON'S CANDIDACY.

TAKING A LEAP OF FACE FOR STATE SENATE SEAT IS DIFFERENT FOR SOMEONE WITH NO GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE TO BE GOVERNOR.

IT'S A FACTOR.

BUT STATE SENATE RACES SHOWED SOMETHING HAPPENING IN NEW YORK POLITICS THAT DIDN'T GET TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE BUT SHOWS WHERE ENERGY AND ORGANIZING IS THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE.

BLUE WAVE STOPS HERE IS ONE OF THE HEADLINES BUT COMMENTATOR SAID THE DEFEAT OF THE IC CANDIDATES WAS BLUE WAVE BY PROXY.

SO SUPPORTIVE OF REPUBLICANS AND NEW YORKERS SO FED UP WITH REPUBLICANS AND DONALD TRUMP, THAT'S WHY THEY WERE DEFEATED.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO THAT?

ABSOLUTELY.

IDC HAS EXISTED AND COLLABORATED WITH REPUBLICANS FOR YEARS IN NEW YORK BUT NEVER PENETRATED THE PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS HERE.

FIRST TIME WE SAW PEOPLE BECOME AWARE THEY EXISTED AND ROLE IN THE STATE SENATE WAS AFTER THE ELECTION OF DONALD TRUMP.

PEOPLE LOOKING FOR FAKE DEMOCRATS, REASONS WHY TRUMP MAY HAVE BEEN VICTORIOUS.

THERE'S BEEN -- PEOPLE WHO VOTED LAST NIGHT IN THE STATE SENATE RACES HAD BEEN ANGRY FOR A WHILE.

AND THEY WERE ITCHING TO PLAY SOME KIND OF ROLE IN THE NATIONAL CONVERSATION AND THIS WAS THEIR CHANCE.

WANT TO SAY QUICKLY, BEFORE CYNTHIA NIXON WAS IN THE GUBERNATORIAL RACE, THESE FOLKS WERE ORGANIZING TO TAKE OUT THE IDC SENATORS.

WHO WAS IT ORGANIZING?

WORKING FAMILY'S PARTY?

YES BUT.

DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA?

MORE THAN THAT.

IN BIAJI'S RACE AND COUPLE IN BROOKLYN, A COALITION OF FORMER OBAMA AND CLINTON OPERATIVES WHO HAD GOTTEN TOGETHER TO PROVIDE FREE TRAINING TO POTENTIAL CANDIDATES.

PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR DEMOCRATS TO RUN IN RACES ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AFTER THE TRUMP ELECTION.

JUST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO GO.

LOT OF THE CANDIDATES HAD BEEN ON THE GROUND 12, 13, 14 MONTHS.

THEY WERE ORGANIZED.

NOT A FLASH IN THE PAN.

LETICIA JAMES WON HANDILY EVEN THOUGH THE POLLS INDICATED IT WAS CLOSE AT END.

HER CONNECTION TO GOVERNOR CUOMO, IS THAT GOING TO CURTAIL HER INDEPENDENCE AS ATTORNEY GENERAL DO YOU THINK?

COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE, CLEAR THAT OTHERS WERE FIGHTING FOR THE SAME VOTES, THAT HELPED JAMES TAKE THE NOMINATION, AS WELL AS STRONG BASE OF SUPPORT IN NEW YORK CITY AND CONNECTION TO GOVERNOR CUOMO RUNNING LOTS OF ADS THAT INCLUDED HERE.

INDEPENDENCE FRONT, QUESTIONS ABOUT HER INDEPENDENCE FROM CUOMO AND ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRATS IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

SPEAKER HEIJI WAS HELPING GET HER ELECTED AS WELL.

PAC DONATED TO HER CAMPAIGN.

LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY IN AG's OFFICE TO ROOT OUT CORRUPTION IN THE STATE GOVERNMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN RELY ON JAMES TO BE THAT CANDIDATE.

TALKED ABOUT NIXON LOSING BY THE SAME MARGIN THAT -- DID FOUR YEARS AGO.

BUT CONCESSION SPEECH WAS MORE LIKE VICTORY SPEECH.

SHE WAS BOUYANT.

SAID THAT CYNTHIA EFFECT, EFFECT OF HER CAMPAIGN, MOVED THE GOVERNOR TO THE LEFT AND ENTIRE NEW YORK DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO THE LEFT.

DID SHE HAVE THAT EFFECT?

I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY FAIR ASSESSMENT GOVERNOR SPENDING $20 MILLION TO DEFEAT HER IS SO MUCH MORE MONEY THAN HE SPENT FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN HE DIDN'T TAKE THE CHALLENE SERIOUSLY.

ALMOST AS SOON AS CYNTHIA NIXON GOT IN THE RACE IN MARCH SHE HAD STRONG CRITIQUES OF THE GOVERNOR THAT HE TOOK SERIOUSLY.

AS SOON AS SHE MADE THEM ALMOST, HE SEEMED TO MOVE MHIS POSITION OR WOULD ANNOUNCE A CHANGE.

DECIDED TO BACK THE LEGALIZATION OF RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA.

DECIDED THAT HE WAS FOR A BAN ON SINGLE USE PLASTIC BAGS.

HE ANNOUNCED HE WAS DISSOLVING THE IDC OR REACHED A DEAL TO DISSOLVE IT.

WHICH HE SAID HE COULDN'T DO BEFORE.

ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER ALLOWING FOR FELONS TO VOTE.

BIGGEST LOSERS AND WINNERS YESTERDAY.

JEFF KLEIN AND THE IDC, THAT'S CLEAR.

BIGGEST WINNERS, JAMES IS UP THERE.

LETICIA JAMES IS UP THERE.

I THINK -- THIS IS A LITTLE BIT INSIDE BASEBALL BUT 32BJ PUT A LOT OF BODIES.

SCIU HELPED ALESSANDRA BEE AUJY DEFEAT JE KLEIN, CAN CLAIM THEY HELPED WITH THAT VICTORY, BIGGEST UPSET OF THE NIGHT.

THANKS FOR TALKING WITH US.

> JOINING NOW WITH REACTION TO THE PRIMARIES AND LOOK AHEAD TO NOVEMBER'S GENERAL ELECTION, MAN WHO WILL FACE OFF ANDREW CUOMO, DUCHESS COUNTY -- AND GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE REPUBLICAN, MARK MOLINARO.

THANK YOU.

NOT A VICTORY FOR NEW YORKERS FRANKLY.

GOVERNOR SPENT $20 MILLION OF MONEY THAT I THINK HE BENT RULES TO ATTAIN.

HE VILIFIED HIS OPPONENT, MISS NIXON AND STILL COUNTLESS NEW YORKERS THINK THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST THEM.

THEY'RE RIGHT.

IT IS.

CUOMO HAS BENEFITTED FROM THAT.

THERE IS A PATH FOR WINNING BECAUSE NEW YORKERS WANT A GOVERNMENT MORE HONEST, HONORABLE AND RESPONSIVE TO THEM.

FACT HE BEAT MISS NIXON BUT ALMOST 2-1 DOESN'T MAKE YOU PAUSE?

NOT AT ALL.

THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF VOTERS IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT SEE HIM THE WAY THE REST OF US SEE HIM.

SOMEBODY MORE INTERESTED IN POWER, MAKING DECISIONS BASED ON POLITICAL EXPEDIENCE AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO REMAIN IN POWER.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST HEADLINES BESIDES THAT WAS 6 OF 8 OF THE MEMBERS OF THE FORMER INDEPENDENT DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE, WHO USED TO WORK WITH THE REPUBLICANS AND KEPT REPUBLICANS IN POWER IN THE STATE SENATE LOST AND LOST BIG.

SOME ARE CALLING IT A BLUE WAVE BY PROXY BECAUSE THEY LOST AS RESULT OF THE FACT THEY WORKED WITH REPUBLICANS.

DOES THAT CONCERN YOU?

I THINK THEY LOST BECAUSE THEY LOST CONNECTION WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS, LIKELY LEFT OF CENTER, WANTED HONEST REPRESENTATION.

I THINK ANY POLITICIAN WHO IS DIVORCED FROM THE REALITIES THEIR CONSTITUENTS FACE IS ENDANGERED.

WHY I THINK ANDREW CUOMO IS IN TROUBLE.

VOTERS SAW IN SENATE CANDIDATES AND THIS GOVERNOR SOMEONE IN IT FOR CORPORATE REASONS, POLITICAL BENEFIT AND POWER.

SEE ESTABLISHMENT THAT STANDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATE.

EVEN THE GOVERNOR WAS ON A MANSION ON A HILL.

BUT HE WON, THEY LOST.

WELL, I THINK YESTERDAY WAS TELLING.

NUMBER OF VOTERS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT KIND OF POLITICS, REGARDLESS.

SEEMS THAT EVERY DEMOCRAT RUNNING YESTERDAY, REGARDLESS OF THE RACE, WAS RUNNING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP.

YEAH.

GOVERNOR HAS BEEN CALLING YOU TRUMP MINI ME.

HIS WORDS.

AND CAMPAIGN IS LINKING YOU TO NRA AND CALLING YOU A QUOTE ANTIWOMAN, ANTI-IMMIGRANT, ANTILBGTQ CANDIDATE.

UNQUOTE.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE CHARGES?

THEY'RE LIES, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN ADMINISTERING WORDS.

I DIDN'T VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP, HE KNOWS I'VE HAVE RECORD OF DEFENDING WOMEN'S RIGHTS AND PROTECTING THOSE REGARDLESS OF WH WHO THEY LOVE, WHERE THEY LIVE.

AND COMMISSION FOR FEAR THAT MANY IMMIGRANTS HAVE, FEAR WE HAVE AS SOCIETY TO ADDRESS INTOLERANCE.

GOVERNOR TALK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE CORRUPT GOVERNMENT.

SEEING THE POWERFUL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GATE.

HE'S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

I'M RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR IN STATE OF NEW YORK.

IN ASSEMBLY YOU VOTED AGAINST SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

SAME POSITION AS HILLARY CLINTON AND BARACK OBAMA AT THE TIME.

WE ALL GROW.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TRAIT.

THIS GOVERNOR CAN'T ADMIT A MISTAKE.

I ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS A CIVIL RIGHT TO BE PROTECTED AND AS GOVERNOR I'M GOING TO DO IT.

TURN TO TWO OR THREE ISSUES THAT NO DOUBT WILL DOMINATE THE DEBATE FOR THE REST OF THE CAMPAIGN.

START WITH THE SUBWAYS.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE SUBWAYS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNOR AND STATE RATHER THAN THE CITY?

YES.

AND UNLIKE THIS GOVERNOR, PLAN TO FIX THE TRANSIT SYSTEM.

RELEASED A FAIRLY DETAILED PLAN.

NOT VANITY PROJECTS, COLORED TILES IN MIDTOWN OR SECOND AVENUE SUBWAY OPENING WITH RIBBON CUTTING AND NO FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.

BY ADDRESSING THE COST --

HOW?

NEGOTIATE.

THIS GOVERNOR LIKES TO DICTATE AND BULLY.

THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR EMPLOYEES AND SYSTEM TO BENEFIT IF WE START BY RESPECTING EACH OTHER AND FOCUS EFFECTIVELY ON GETTING RESOURCES ON TO THE TRACKS AND INTO THE STATIONS.

ALSO BY THE WAY, JUST OFFER THERE ARE COUNTLESS PEOPLE, LOWER END OF THE INCOME SCALE OR LIVING WITH DISABILITIES DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSIT SYSTEM.

IT IS THEIR LIFE BLOOD AND WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY AS STATE TO FIX IT, MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE FOR THEM.

CORRUPTION IS SOMETHING YOU TALK ABOUT A LOT.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT?

DAY ONE, A COMMISSION THAT GOES AFTER REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS, ANYBODY WHO DEFRAUDS TAXPAYERS.

FIRST DAY IN OFFICE.

AND PROPOSE MOST SWEEPING ETHICS REFORMS.

DEMAND A VOTE ON TERM LIMITS.

ENFORCE IT.

THIS GOVERNOR HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF HIS OFFICE.

BENEFITTED FROM -- HIS LIEUTENANTS FOUND GUILTY.

IF EVER THERE WAS A CORRUPTED ADMINISTRATION THERE'S THIS ONE.

ASIDE FROM THAT AND EVERYTHING YOU SAID, 30 SECONDS OR LESS, MOST IMPORTANT REASON NEW YORKERS SHOULD MAKE YOU NEXT GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK?

I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

SPENT EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE MAKING SURE GOVERNMENT WORKS.

ZERO INTEREST IN IDEOLOGY.

WANT TO WORK TOGETHER TO PROTECT ONE ANOTHER, MAKE THE STATE AFFORDABLE TO EVERYONE WHO CALLS IT HOME.

THAT'S MY COMMITMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

> JANUARY 1999, 29-YEAR-OLD SCHIZOPHRENIC ANDREW GOLDSTEIN WAS OFF HIS MEDICATIONS AND FATALLY PUSHED KENDRA ON TO THE TRACKS OF SUBWAY STATION.

SENTENCED TO 23 YEARS IN PRISON WITH TIME OFF FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR.

THIS WEEK RELEASED FROM PRISON, TRANSFERRED TO HOSPITAL FOR EVALUATION.

DOCTORS DECIDING NEXT STEPS.

ONE LIKELY POSSIBLE IS PUTTING HIM UNDER KENDRA'S LAW.

FROM HIS VICTIM.

GIVES JUDGES AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE INDIVIDUALS TO UNDERGO TREATMENT.

RECENT PROJECT 'A TURBULENT MIND.'

BILL KELLER AND JON JAY LEMMON.

CURRENT PRISONER IN SING SING CORRECTIONAL FACILITY WHO JOINS BY PHONE.

GENTLEMEN WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

WHAT LED THE MARSHAL PROJECT TO THIS STORY?

IT WAS JOHN'S IDEA.

WRITING FOR THE PROJECT FOR YEARS NOW.

SENT ME A LETTER SAYING THAT ANDREW GOLDSTEIN, WHO KILLED KENDRA WAS NOW IN SINGSING.

WILLING TO BE INTERVIEWED AND HAD RELEASE DATE COMING.

ALL SEEMED A GOOD REASON TO DO A STORY ON THE SUBJECT.

THERE ARE LIMITS TO REPORTING YOU CAN DO FROM PRISON CELL, JOHN SUGGESTED WE PROVIDE OUTSIDE WRITER FOR OTHER PART OF THE STORY, KENDRA'S LAW AND WHAT'S BECOME OF IT.

WHY ARE YOU IN PRISON?

28 YEARS TO LIFE FOR MURDER AND FELONY DRUGS, BACK IN 2001, I KILLED A MAN ON A BROOKLYN STREET.

FOR WHICH I AM SORRY.

I WAS PRETTY IMMERSED IN THAT LIFESTYLE.

HOW DID YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH ANDREW GOLDSTEIN.

PRISONER/FACILITATOR.

IN SINGSING THEY WILL LET GENERAL POPULATION PRISONERS WORK WITH THAT DEALS WITH SERIOUSLY MENTALLY ILL VIOLENCE, ASSIST THE OFFICE OF MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELLORS, GO TO PROGRAM WITH THEM.

COAX THEM TO GET UP IN THE MORNING.

LIKE AIDES.

THAT'S HOW I MET ANDREW.

HE SPENT 19 YEARS IN JAIL.

BUT WHY AT ALL?

SCHIZOPHRENIC OFF HIS MEDICATIONS WHEN HE KILLED KENDRA, DOES THAT MEAN INNOCENT BY REASON OF INSANITY?

SHORT ANSWER IS PROSECUTORIAL DISCRETION.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF POWER HOW TO HANDLE THE CASE.

THERE WAS NO QUESTION HE DID IT, JUST WHAT WAS GOING ON IN HIS HEAD.

PROSECUTORS REFUSED TO ACCEPT A PLEA DEAL, MEANT HE WOULD HAVE SPENT UP TO REST OF HIS LIFE IN PSYCHIATRIC WARD.

IN THE END, DEAL FOR 23 YEARS.

HOW HAS HE RESPONDED?

DID HE RESPOND TODAY TO THE KILLING OF KENDRA SF.

DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO WRAP HIS HEAD AROUND THAT.

MEDICATED ANDREW CAN'T QUITE IDENTIFY WITH PSYCHOTIC ANDREW.

IT'S LIKE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

HE CAN'T IMAGINE HOW HE DID THAT TO KENDRA.

AND HE ACKNOWLEDGES IT'S A HORRIBLE THING.

HE MENTIONED HE WANTED TO PUT A WREATH ON HER GRAVE.

DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO WRAP HEAD AROUND THAT.

PROSECUTION THEORY IS HE WAS A PREDATOR.

I'VE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK, A FEW BLOCKS.

HE'S NOT A CALCULATED PSYCHOPATH.

I'VE BEEN AROUND SOME OF THOSE GUYS AND I'M NOT A DOCTOR BUT YOU KNOW ANTISOCIAL BEHAVIOR WHEN YOU SEE IT.

I'M HIP TO THAT.

HE WAS STRUGGLING WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA AND OFF HIS MEDICATION.

IN JAIL HAS HE MANIFESTED ANY VIOLENCE SIMILAR TO WHAT HE HAD ON THE SUBAWAY PLATFORM?

HE HAD AN URGE IN 2003, HE FELT IT COMING ON, WALKING UP STAIRS WITH CLEANING SUPPLIES, WHICH I DOCUMENTED IN THE PIECE.

ALSO TOLD ME AN AIDE LIKE I WAS, DIFFERENT MENTAL WARD, FELT THAT ANOTHER AIDE WAS HELPING HIM CLEAN HIS CELL AND STRUCK THE AIDE IN FACE ABRUPTLY.

GUY WAS LIKE WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?

DEFUSED IN A MATTER OF MOMENTS.

KENDRA'S LAW CAME INTO EFFECT AS RESULT OF THE KILLING.

NAMED AFTER HER.

WHAT IS KENDRA'S LAW?

CREATES A SAFEGUARD FOR PEOPLE ALLOWED TO BE OUTPATIENTS, DONE UNDER A COURT ORDER, COURT APPROVES TREATMENT PROGRAM FOR THE PATIENT AND ASSIGNED A CASE MANAGER OR TEAM TO MANAGE YOUR CASE.

AND GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE LIKE ANDREW GOLDSTEIN STAY ON THEIR MEDICATION.

THING THAT MAKES IT WORK, COUPLE OF THINGS, JUDICIAL ORDER TENDS TO MAKE EVERYBODY INVOLVED PAY ATTENTION.

MOST IMPORTANT THING, PUTS PEOPLE LIKE THAT AT FRONT OF THE LINE FOR TREATMENT, HOUSING, JOB TRAINING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE THEY'RE DEEMED TO BE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.

HOW LONG DOES IT LAST?

HOW LONG IS AN INDIVIDUAL SUPERVISED?

THERE ARE 16,000 NEW YORKERS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROGRAM, MOST OF THEM GRADUATE, SO TO SPEAK, IN A YEAR OR TWO.

ALTHOUGH THE COURT CAN EXTEND THE PERIOD INDEFINITELY.

WHAT IS THE TRACK RECORD OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH KENDRA'S LAW AND HAVE GONE BEYOND IT?

RESEARCH THEY'VE DONE AT DUKE UNIVERSITY MEDICAL SCHOOL SUGGESTS THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TREATED UNDER KENDRA'S LAW ARE MUCH LESS LIKELY TO END UP BACK IN PRISON, TO BE HOSPITALIZED, TO COMMIT SUICIDE, BE ARRESTED.

MUCH LESS LIKELY TO BE HOSPITALIZED.

SO OF COURSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE AGAINST EPISODE THAT HAPPENED ON THE 23rd STREET PLATFORM.

I WAS SURPRISED TO READ IN YOUR ARTICLE THAT IN FACT, NOT EVERYONE WAS FOR IT.

SOME PEOPLE STILL OPPOSE IT.

WHO ARE THEY AND WHY?

THERE ARE REALLY TWO SOURCES OF OPPOSITION TO IT OR CRITICISM OF IT, ONE IS CIVIL LIBERTIES PERSPECTIVE, THAT THIS IS DEEMED TO BE COERCIVE.

ALTHOUGH THE NEW YORK CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION SUCCEEDED IN HAVING THE LAW AMENDED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN'T BE FORCIBLY INJECTED WITH DRUGS UNLESS THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH A VERY LONG PROCEDURE.

BUT SOME PEOPLE ARE FAIRLY ABSOLUTIST ON CIVIL LIBERTIES.

OTHER IS BECAUSE IT PUTS KENDRA'S LAW PARTICIPANTS AT FRONT OF THE LINE AND THERE'S A DRAMATIC SHORTAGE OF RESOURCES FOR MENTALLY ILL, OTHER PEOPLE DON'T GET TREATMENT, PEOPLE WHO ARE VOLUNTEERS.

I SEE.

WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF ANDREW GOLDSTEIN.

HE'S UNDER EVALUATION, WHAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN NEXT TO HIM?

THAT'S GUESSWORK TO SOME EXTENT.

HE WILL CERTAINLY BE REVIEWED AS POSSIBLE CANDIDATE FOR KENDRA'S LAW.

THERE ARE OPGS MORE RESTRICTIVE, INCLUDING COMMITMENT TO PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL IF HE'S DEEMED DANGEROUS TO HIMSELF OR OTHERS.

MOSTLY CLEAR RECORD FOR 20 YEARS SEEMS UNLIKELY.

LET HIM GO ON OWN RECOGNIZANCE, BUT DUE TO NOTORIETY, UNLIKELY TOO.

JOHN, IF ANDREW IS FREE ON THE STREETS OF NEW YORK, SHOULD NEW YORKERS WHO CROSS HIS PATH BE WORRIED?

I WOULD IMAGINE WOULD BE KNEE-JERK REACTION, THAT'S THE GUY.

BUT I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE WORRIED.

ANDREW GOLDSTEIN ON THAT DAY WHEN HE PUSHED KENDRA WEBDALE WAS PSYCHOTIC.

HE'S BEEN TAKING HIS MEDICATION SINCE, THERE'S NO RECORD HE HASN'T TAKEN IT.

HE SAW WHAT HAPPENED AND DIFFICULT AS IT IS FOR HIM TO EXPRESS THE REMORSE THAT IS PALATABLE FOR PEOPLE, HE IS SORRY AS HE CAN BE AND TAKING HIS MEDICATION, I THINK HE'LL GET ON THE TRAIN WITH THE REST OF EVERYBODY.

BE FINE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

THANK YOU.

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