TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

The notorious jail will eventually be shuttered, but what comes next? A listening tour is headed your way, but will your community welcome a facility? Are Long Island’s fishermen thriving or merely surviving on the East End? We’re taking a deep dive into the story. As the school year starts, the homeless student population swells. We have an eye opening look at our neighbors in need who are “Chasing The Dream.” From the “girl next door, to the sex kitten, activist, fitness tycoon,” and eventual Oscar winner, we take a look at the Hollywood icon ahead of the premiere of the HBO documentary “Jane Fonda in Five Acts.”

Aired on September 20, 2018. 

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON METRO FOCUS, CLOSING RIKERS, A NOTORIOUS JAIL, WILL EVENTUALLY BE SHUTTERED.

NOT IN MY BACKYARD?

MAYBE NOT.

THE DETAILS AHEAD.

DRIVING OR MERELY SURVIVING ON LONG ISLAND'S EAST END?

WE'RE TAKING A DEEP DIVE INTO THE FIGHT FOR OUR LOCAL FISHING INDUSTRY.

READING, WRITER AND POVERTY.

THE HOMELESS POPULATION SWELLS.

AND THE NUMBERS ARE CONCERNING.

A STARK LOOK AT A GROWING PROBLEM ACROSS THE REGION.

FROM THE GIRL NEXT DOOR TO THE SEX KITTEN.

FITNESS TYCOON AND EVENTUAL OSCAR WINNER, THE HOLLYWOOD ICON DECONSTRUCTED.

A LOOK AT JANE FONDA IN FIVE ACTS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS METRO FOCUS STARTS RIGHT NOW.

> THIS IS METRO FOCUS WITH RAPHEAL P.RAMON, JACK FORD AND JENNA FLANNIGAN.

METRO FOCUS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JAMES AND MERYL TISH, BERNARD AND IRENE SCHWARTZ, ROSALIND P.

WALTER.

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FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM IS ALSO PROVIDED BY THE JPB FOUNDATION AND THE FORD FOUNDATION.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO METRO FOCUS.

AFTER 85 YEARS OF SERVING AS THE BIG APPLE'S NOTORIOUS ISOLATED JAIL, RIKERS ISLAND HAS FINALLY COMMENCED ITS 10-YEAR PLAN TO SHUT DOWN.

THE PLAN IS BEING PUSHED BY BILL DE BLASIO WILL CUT INMATE POPULATION IN HALF.

WHILE THE MAYOR LEADS THE CHARGE AND THE GOVERNOR BACKS HIM, SOME CITIZENS HAVE VOICED CONCERNS AS THESE NEW JAILS MAY BE MOVING INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

JOINING ME NOW WITH A BREAKDOWN OF THIS PLAN IS EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE FORTUNE SOCIETY.

AN ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO HELPING OTHERS IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

WELCOME TO YOU.

.

LET ME START OFF --

FORTUNE SOCIETY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

OUR MISSION IS TWO FOLD, TO PROVIDE A SAFETY NET FOR MEN AND WOMEN, PROVIDING A RANGE OF SERVICES.

EMPLOYMENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE, MENTAL HEALTH, HOUSING, WE REALLY PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GOING INTO THE SYSTEM.

WE PROVIDE ALTERNATIVES TO AN INCARCERATION PROGRAM.

AND THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR MISSION IS NOT JUST TO BE A SERVICE PROVIDER OR REENTRY OR DIVERSION, BUT TO BE ASSISTANCE CHANGERS.

WE DO A LOT OF WORK ON POLICY, WE WANT TO CHANGE THE POLICIES THAT CHEW UP SO MANY BLACK AND BROWN YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN AND OUR COUNTRY.

IF WE CAN DO IT IN NEW YORK, WE CAN DO IT NATURALLY.

GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT THIS PLAN IS, WE'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT CLOSING RIKERS FOREVER.

BUT NOW APPARENTLY THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE, GIVE US AN OVERALL SKETCH OF THAT PLAN.

SO THE PLAN, I WAS ALSO A PART OF THE COMMISSION THAT PRODUCED A BLUEPRINT TO CLOSE RIKERS AND FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.

THE MAYOR ACCEPTED THAT PLAN AND IMPLEMENTED AN OPERATIONAL PLAN THAT INCLUDED A LOT OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND AT THE CORE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CHANGING THE SYSTEM.

CHANGING THE WAY PEOPLE ARE DIVERTED INTO THE SYSTEM, SO SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T GO IN, CHANGING THE WAY PEOPLE ARE DETAINED IN THE SYSTEM.

CHANGING BAIL REFORM.

LIKE WE RECOMMENDED A WHOLE SET OF CHANGES THAT WON'T JUST CLOSE RIKERS.

BUT CHANGE THE WAY PEOPLE INTERACT WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

AND AS A RESULT OF THOSE CHANGES, WE GET TO CLOSE RIKER'S ISLAND.

I MENTION IN THE BEGINNING THAT THERE'S ESSENTIALLY A LISTENING TORE GOING ON HERE.

TELL ME ABOUT THIS LISTENING TOUR AND HOW IS IT PLAYING OUT SO FAR?

THE MAYOR HAS COMMITTED.

THE MAYOR PUT FORTH THIS PLAN TO CLOSE RIKERS, BUILD SMALLER FACILITIES IN THE BOROUGH.

AND HE COMMITTED TO LISTENING TO WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY.

AS YOU SAID, WE HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR CLOSING RIKERS AND CHANGING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR YEARS, NOW WE HAVE OUR POLITICAL LEADERS SAYING, YES, THE TIME IS NOW, THE TIME IS RIGHT, LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.

AND SO NOW IS A TIME FOR ALL OF US, REGARDLESS OF WHAT COMMUNITY YOU COME FROM, TO STAND UP AND TO SAY, I AM FOR REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND I AM FOR CLOSING RIKERS ISLAND.

WHAT ARE YOU SEEING IN TERMS OF PEOPLE SAYING, AND WE SEE THIS HISTORICALLY, GREAT IDEA TO CLOSE RIKERS, TAKE THOSE SAVINGS AND REINVEST THEM INTO THE COMMUNITIES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME FACILITIES SOME PLACE, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

FIND SOME OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THE NOT IN MY BACKYARD ISSUE.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, LISTEN, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 8300 PEOPLE DETAINED IN NEW YORK CITY JAILS.

RIGHT?

WE WANT TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 5,000.

WE WANT TO CLOSE THE OLD AND DECREPIT JAILS THEY ARE HOUSED IN RIGHT NOW, THE CORRECTIONS OFFICERS THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM.

WE WANT TO PUT THE JAILS CLOSER TO THE COURTHOUSES AND COMMUNITIES.

LOGICALLY IT MAKES ENORMOUS SENSE.

FOR THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, THE INMATE, FOR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS TO VISIT.

LAST QUESTION FOR YOU.

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF A TIME FRAME TO GET ALL OF THIS DONE.

THE MAYOR HAS A TIME FRAME, THE ADVOCATES, WE DON'T HAVE A TIME FRAME, WE WANT TO MOVE AS QUICK AS WE CAN.

FOR US, THESE CHANGES MEAN WE'RE GOING TO SAVE REAL LIVES.

THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $30 MILLION TRANSPORTING PEOPLE FROM RIKERS TO THE BOROUGH COURTHOUSES.

WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $1.2 BILLION ON THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.

ALL OF ITS OPERATIONS, THE TIME NOW IS TO STOP THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE 40,000 PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT SYSTEM.

80% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DETAINED ON RIKERS HAVE NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD BAIL.

THEY'RE POOR, THEY'RE BLACK AND BROWN.

THE TIME NOW IS TO STOP THAT.

FOR US, THE TIMING IS LET'S MOVE AS FAST AS WE, LET'S HAVE THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS, LET'S GET THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, AND LET'S CLOSE THIS JAIL.

THEN YOU CAN START MOVING FORWARD?

ABSOLUTELY.

THIS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL.

THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT WE LIKE TO GET YOU BACK IN HERE TO TALK ABOUT.

THANKS FOR SPENDING TIME HERE, AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

> WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOMELESS PROBLEM HERE IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA, THE NUMBERS CAN SEEM STAGGERING.

AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN YOU CONSIDER ONE OF THE NEW FACES OF THE ISSUE.

STUDENTS.

IN NEW YORK CITY ALONE, THE NUMBER OF PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS LIVING IN HOMELESS SHELTERS HAS GONE UP IN EACH OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS, REACHING ALMOST 33,000 IN 2016.

AND ON LONG ISLAND, SUFFOLK AND NASSAU COUNTIES HAD NEARLY 3,000 PEOPLE IN HOMELESS FAMILIES, THE MOST AMONG SMALL CITIES, COUNTIES AND REGIONS IN THE COUNTRY.

TONIGHT WE'RE BRINGING YOU A SPECIAL REPORT ON THIS CRISIS AS PART OF OUR ONGOING REPORTING INITIATIVE, CHASING THE DREAM.

POVERTY AND OPPORTUNITY IN AMERICA.

HOW DID THE PROBLEM GET THIS BAD?

AND WHAT'S BEING DONE TO KEEP STUDENTS OFF THE STREET AND IN THEIR HOMES.

JOINING ME NOW WITH ANSWERS IS ALEC ROBERTS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY HOUSING INNOVATION, WHICH HAS BEEN AT THE FRONT LINE OF THESE HOMELESS PROBLEMS HERE IN THE REGION FOR OVER TWO DECADES.

TELL ME ABOUT WHY THIS PROBLEM IS BECOMING SO PERVASIVE IN SUFFOLK AND NASSAU COUNTIES?

THE PROBLEM STEMS FROM A SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE.

BASICALLY, THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSES OR APARTMENTS FOR THE PEOPLE TO LIVE IN.

AND THAT STEMS FROM THE FACT THAT THE PROCESS OF GETTING ZONED FOR A MULTIFAMILY OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING JUST DOESN'T EXIST IN THE NEW YORK METROPOLITAN AREA.

COMMUNITIES IN NEW YORK STATE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED HOME RULE, WHICH MEANS THAT BASICALLY THEY DECIDE WHAT KINDS OF HOUSING, WHEN THE HOUSING CHOICE FOR THE MARKET, THE PREMARKET DOESN'T OPERATE ON LONG ISLAND.

IT DOESN'T OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OR EVEN IN THE CITY TO SOME EXTENT, THE CITY AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGES THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

ON LONG ISLAND AND WEST CHESTER WHICH WERE BUILT DURING THE EXCLUSIONARY PERIODS OF DISCRIMINATION, BASICALLY HAVE THE SAME ATTITUDES, AND THEREFORE THE HOUSING WAS NOT BEING BUILT.

WHEN YOU HAVE AN IMBALANCE BETWEEN SUPPLY AND DEMAND YOU HAVE PRICES THAT GO UP, AND THEY CONTINUE TO GO UP TREMENDOUSLY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SEEMS TO COME UP, IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE SOMEWHERE, JUST MOVE SOME PLACE ELSE.

IS THAT POSSIBLE FOR THESE FAMILIES?

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

BECAUSE WAGES HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH INFLATION ANYWHERE.

BUT IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THE FAMILIES TO MOVE.

AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF STUDY THAT IN GENERAL, THEY COULD.

AND THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

BUT IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THEM.

AND FRANKLY, LONG ISLAND, THEY WANT TO BE GROWING.

THEY WANT THE ECONOMY TO GROW.

IT'S STAGNANT PRETTY MUCH RIGHT NOW.

THE SOLUTION I DON'T THINK IS MOVING WHOLE POPULATIONS OUT OF LONG ISLAND OR WESTCHESTER, ET CETERA, BUT TO ALLOW THE FREE MARKET TO BUILD HOUSING THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

WHAT ARE THE UNIQUE DIFFICULTIES OF BEING A HOMELESS STUDENT ON LONG ISLAND OR IN ONE OF THE SUBURBS, LET'S SAY, AS OPPOSED TO BEING A HOMELESS STUDENT IN NEW YORK CITY?

THE CHALLENGES ARE SIMILAR.

ON LONG ISLAND YOU HAVE THE ADDED DIFFICULTY OF TRANSPORTATION.

YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD SUBWAY NETWORK FOR EXAMPLE, SO IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO OWN A CAR, WHICH ADDS AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN.

A LOT OF THE SAME SOCIAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL PATHOLOGIES ARE COMMON TO BOTH.

THE GREAT DEPRESSION, THE RATE OF ACTING OUT.

ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS.

POOR PERFORMANCE IN SCHOOL.

ALL OF THESE ISSUES ARE GREATLY EXACERBATED.

IS THERE SOMETHING -- IS THERE A PUBLIC MISCONCEPTION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE ABOUT THESE FAMILIES THAT THEY SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION?

I THINK THAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT THIS CRISIS JUST HAPPENED, AND WE KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS FAMILIES, I'M TALKING ABOUT ARE NOT DIFFERENT FROM OTHER POOR PEOPLE REALLY.

AND BASICALLY, IF THEY'RE GIVEN AFFORDABLE APARTMENT, THEY CAN FUNCTION AND THEY DO FINE.

ALL OF THE MAJOR NATIONAL STUDIES SHOW THAT REALLY WHETHER THEY HAVE ENHANCED SERVICES OR NOT ENHANCED SERVICES, THE THING THAT WORKS IS A SUBSIDY TO ALLOW THEM TO BE COMFORTABLY AND STABLY HOUSED, WHICH IS THE CRITICAL ISSUE.

WELL, YOU MENTIONED THE MAJOR NATIONAL STUDIES AND THAT IS ALSO PART OF THIS ISSUE, NATIONALLY, THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS FAMILIES HAS GONE DOWN.

EXCEPT THIS ISSUE WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE WITH IT IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA.

THERE ISN'T ENOUGH FOCUS ON EXCLUSIONARY ZONING, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF THIS.

AND THE SECOND THING IS THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT, WHICH IS USED AS A WEAPON ON MANY COMMUNITIES, JUST TO KEEP HOUSING OUT.

IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO BUILD HOUSING IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA, BECAUSE OF THE ONEROUS REGULATIONS THAT THE STATE HAS.

THERE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTS AT REFORM, BUT COMMUNITIES JUST DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THEIR EXCLUSIONARY ZONING.

THEIR ABILITY TO DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT.

AND THEY DON'T WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN GENERAL.

> LISTEN, I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ENLIGHTEN US ON THIS SUBJECT.

AND DEFINITELY TO GIVE US IDEAS ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO START HAPPENING.

ESPECIALLY AT THE COMMUNITY LEVEL.

THANK YOU, JENNA.

THANK YOU.

I'VE BEEN IN DIFFERENT FISHERIES AND I STILL -- I CAN'T SUCCEED DO MY GOAL TO GET MY OWN LICENSE TO START MY OWN GEAR.

WITHOUT MY LICENSE, I'M NOTHING, I'M JUST SOMEBODY ELSE'S WORKER.

SO IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO BE PUSHED OUT LIKE A BUNCH OF THE OLD TIMERS HAVE.

HE'S HAVING A HARD TIME MAKING ENDS MEET.

AARON WAS BORN IN SAG HARBOR, HE'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE YOUNGEST FISHERMEN.

WE CAUGHT UP WITH HIM ON ONE OF THE UNUSUAL DAYS HE WAS NOT ON THE WATER.

MANY LICENSES FOR FISHERIES IN LONG ISLANDS ARE CLOSED DUE TO THE POPULATION OF SOME FISH OR THE COASTAL QUOTA SUCH AS SEA BASS.

THE ONLY WAY A YOUNGER FISHERMAN CAN HOPE TO GET ACCESS TO A FISHERY IS IF THEIR PARENTS DIE AND PASS THEM THE LICENSE.

THE PARENT HAS TO LIVE IN THE SAME HOME AS THEM WHEN THEY PASS.

AUTHORITIES PUT IN THAT MORATORIUM.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS LOTTERY SYSTEM FOR NEW YORK STATE.

AND I KEEP GETTING REJECTED IN A WAY.

AND THEY CALL IT A LOTTERY, SO IF YOU GO TO THE LOCAL GAS STATION OR CORNER STORE AND BUY A LOTTERY TICKET TO TRY TO BE A MILLIONAIRE.

I DON'T WANT TO BE A MILLIONAIRE, I WANT TO GETS A FISHING LICENSE AND I CAN ENABLE MYSELF TO MAKE MY OWN LIVING INSTEAD OF WORKING ON THE BACK DECK FOR SOMEBODY ELSE MY WHOLE LIFE.

I WANT TO FISH.

I'M NOT GOING TO QUIT FISHING.

IT'S UNAMERICAN, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, IT'S UNAMERICAN.

IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT, IF YOU PUSH HARD ENOUGH, SOMETHING SHOULD COME OUT OF IT.

THE COMMERCIAL FISHING ISSUE IN LONG ISLAND IS COMPLICATED.

BUT PART OF IT BASICALLY BOILS DOWN TO SOME FISHERMEN WHO WANT THEIR OWN FISHERY.

THAT LAST ONE BECOMES A BIT OF AN ISSUE, BECAUSE MANY OF THE OLD E EER FISHERMEN WHO GOT THE LICENSE RENEW THEIR PERMITS, BUT HARDLY USE THEM.

I'VE BEEN IN THE SAME ROOM WITH NOT NAMING ANY CERTAIN PERSON, BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT FULL TIME FISHERMEN LIKE MYSELF, AND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.

KNOWING THAT THERE'S A FRAUDULENT WAY OF GETTING A LICENSE THAT THEY ASK FOR MY TAX FORMS, I PROVE IT, I FILE MY TAXES AS A COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN.

REMEMBER I SAID THIS IS COMPLICATED.

ANTHONY IS A FULL TIME FISHERMEN, HE'S BEEN IN THE GAME SINCE 1980, HE HAS A GRANDFATHERED FISHING LICENSE.

HE SAYS THERE'S A REASON WHY PART TIME FISHERMEN RENEW THEIR LICENSE EVERY YEAR.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO STAY A COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN FULL TIME.

YOU DON'T HAVE BENEFITS, YOU DON'T HAVE MEDICAL.

SO WE'RE UP AGAINST THE WEATHER.

WE'RE UP AGAINST QUOTAS, AND WE'RE UP AGAINST OUR AGE EVEN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

WE'RE GETTING OLDER.

THE REGULATIONS HAVE NOT SOFTENED.

IF MY FATHER WAS A PLUMBER, I JUST DON'T GET HIS PLUMBING LICENSE, YOU HAVE TO EARN IT, YOU KNOW.

DANIEL COMES FROM A LONG HISTORY OF FISHERMEN.

HE'S BEEN PART OF THE DECADES LONG BATTLE.

ALEXA CAME OUT IN 1989 WHICH SHOWS HOW LONG THIS BACK AND FORTH WITH THE STATE GOES.

THAT'S NOT LOST ON NATHANIEL.

THE LEGACY OF FISHING MAY END WITH HIM AND HIS GENERATION.

I HOPE THAT THE STATE FIGURES OUT A WAY TO -- WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE FISH OUT HERE IS A DYING TRADE OR DEAD TRADE.

I KIND OF FEEL IGNORANT.

I'M STILL TRYING TO DO IT, GUESS.

IT DOES MAKE ME HAPPY, IT'S WHAT YOU DO, IT'S WHAT YOU KNOW.

BUT I HOPE THAT WITHOUT MORE FISHERMEN AND YOUNGER FISHERMEN IN THE INDUSTRY, IT WILL NOT SURVIVE.

AND THAT'S JUST A FACT.

I WOULD RATHER SEE ANOTHER 100 FISHERMEN COMPETE EVERY DAY, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE IN THE INDUSTRY.

THE STATE IS TAKING NOTICE NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION.

ANY REGULATIONS LEFT.

THE DEC HIRING CONSULTANT FORMER COMMISSIONER OF NATURAL RESOURCES, IS FIGURING OUT A WAY TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS THAT WILL HELP SMALL COMMERCIAL FISHERMEN, AND ALSO PROTECT WATERS FROM OVER FISHING.

ONE THING WE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE MEETING AND BEFORE WAS THIS.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS THE GAME FOR LONG ENOUGH, WHERE YOU WOULD THINK THAT I WORKED UNDER ENOUGH PEOPLE.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF APPRENTICE PROGRAM.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

THE DEC HAS NINE COMMUNITY MEETINGS FROM JULY THROUGH AUGUST.

BUT HAVE SINCE WRAPPED UP, AND NOW THE WAIT BEGINS FOR GEORGE LaPOINTE'S FINDINGS.

THEY EXPECT TO HAVE A FIRST DRAFT OF THAT REPORT BY OCTOBER.

THAT DRAFT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE FISHERY COMMUNITY AND THEN THE RESPONSES OF THAT AS WELL AS THE DRAFT WILL DETERMINE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE.

> GIRL NEXT DOOR, SEX ICON, POLITICAL ACTIVIST, AND ACADEMY AWARD WITHER JANE FONDA, LIVED A LIFE MARKED BY TRAGEDY, CONTROVERSY.

AND SHE'S DONE MOST OF IN THE PUBLIC EYE.

A NEW HBO DOCUMENTARY.

TAKES AN INTIMATE LOOK AT THE 80-YEAR-OLD ACTRESSES FABLED LIFE.

JANE FONDA.

ONE OF HOLLYWOOD'S MOST EXCITING NEW STARS.

WHEN YOU --

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF MY LAST ACT.

IN ORDER TO KNOW HOW TO GO FORWARD, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO KNOW WHERE I'VE BEEN.

I WAS HENRY FONDA'S DAUGHTER WHICH MEANT, WE LOOKED LIKE THE AMERICAN DREAM.

A LOT OF IT WAS SIMPLY A MESS.

WHEN YOU WERE LITTLE JANE FONDA, DID YOU DREAM ABOUT BEING AN ACTRESS?

SCREENPLAYS, MOVIES.

I WANTED TO PLEASE DAD.

WHO DID YOU WANT TO BE?

I NEVER FELT REAL.

I JUST THOUGHT, I HAVE TO FIND WHO I REALLY AM.

I JUST FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO BECOME AN ACTIVIST.

I WANTED MY LIFE TO HAVE MEANING.

YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ISSUES PUBLIC.

I'M VERY PROUD OF MOST OF WHAT I DID, AND VERY SORRY FOR SOME OF WHAT I DID.

SUSAN LACY, MANY OF YOU WILL ALSO RECOGNIZE AS THE CREATOR AND FORMER EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF THE GROUNDBREAKING PBS SERIES, MASTERPIECE.

EXPLAIN THE DIVISION?

THIS IS INTERESTING.

THE IDEA OF ACTS WAS EMBEDDED IN MY MIND BECAUSE IN HER BOOK SHE SAID I'M WRITING THIS BOOK, I'M RESEARCHING MY LIFE, I DECIDED TO FIND OUT WHO MY PARENTS WERE, WHO THEIR PARENTS WERE, YOU CAN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEEDED UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

AND WHAT ISSUES THEY WERE DEALINGING WITH.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS SHE SAID IS THAT I'M DOING THIS, BECAUSE I NEED TO UNDERSTAND MY FIRST TWO ACTS IN ORDER TO LIVE MY THIRD.

THE NOTION OF ACTS WAS KIND OF IN MY HEAD.

AND THEN WHEN I WAS IN THE EDIT ROOM AND BEGINNING TO MAKE THIS FILM, I SAID, YOU KNOW, REALLY THERE'S FIVE ACTS.

MANY TIMES IN MAKING THE PORTRAIT, THE THIRD ABILITY IS OFTEN THE PROBLEM.

THE FIRST TWO ACTS ARE WHERE MOST OF THE WORK IS DONE.

THE IMPACT IS HAD, THE LEGACY IS BUILT.

AND THE THIRD ACT IS OFTEN A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING.

JANE'S FIFTH ACT IS ANYTHING BUT.

I THOUGHT, THIS IS REALLY A FIVE ACT STORY WHICH BEGINS WITH HER FATHER.

AND THEN FOLLOWED BY HER THREE HUSBANDS.

RO ROGER BADINE.

TOM HAYDEN, AND HER LAST HUSBAND WAS TED TURNER.

AND IN EACH OF THESE MOMENTS IN HER LIFE WHICH ARE REALLY CHAPTERS.

SHE WILL SAY IT, SHE SPENT HER WHOLE LIFE HOPING TO GET THE LOVE OF HER FATHER.

AND WITH EACH HUSBAND IN ORDER TO BE LOVED.

SHE FELT THAT SHE NEEDED TO BE WHO THEY WANTED HER TO BE.

AND SHE SAYS EARLIER IN THE FILM, HER MOTHER WAS SICK A LOT.

IN MENTAL INSTITUTIONS, AS A CHILD SHE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SHE WASN'T THERE.

BUT SHE KNEW THAT THAT WASN'T THE WING TEAM.

SHE WANTED TO BE ON THE WING TEAM AND THE WING TEAM WAS THE MAN'S TEAM.

AND THAT IS HOW SHE LIVED HER LIFE, UNTIL SHE WAS 60 SOME YEARS OLD AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S TIME FOR JANE TO COME OUT.

I THINK IT'S TIME TO HAVE A FULLY REALIZED JANE.

A WHOLE JANE.

AND SHE LEFT TED --

LET'S TALK ABOUT HER MOMENT IN POLITICS, SHE SAID SHE WAS VERY PROUD ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS VERY SORRY ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS.

I THINK THOSE OF US OF A CERTAIN AGE KNOW WHAT SHE WAS SORRY ABOUT.

THE PICTURE TAKEN IN THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER IN VIETNAM.

TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE WAS PROUD OF?

JANE WENT TO VIETNAM ON HER OWN.

SHE WAS INVITED BY THE NORTH VIETNAMESE, SHE WASN'T THE FIRST AMERICAN TO GO.

BUT BECAUSE SHE'S A CELEBRITY AND A WOMAN, AND SHE MADE THE MISTAKE OF SITTING ON AN ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUN THAT HAS STAYED WITH HER HER WHOLE LIFE.

SHE WILL GO TO HER GRAVE REGRETTING THAT.

SHE'S APOLOGIZED FOR THAT.

IT'S NOT LIKE SHE WENT -- SHE WENT BECAUSE SHE WAS A CELEBRITY, SHE WAS ENCOURAGED TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT NIXON AND KISSINGER WERE GOING TO BOMB THE DIKES IN NORTH VIETNAM.

HAD THEY DONE THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE -- DURING THE HARVEST SEASON, IT WOULD HAVE DESTROYED THE RICE CROPS, POTENTIALLY A MILLION PEOPLE COULD HAVE STARVED TO DEATH.

AND IT WOULD HAVE FLOODED THE PLACE.

SHE WENT THERE TO EXPOSE THIS AND FIND OUT WHETHER THEY WERE BOMBING THE DIKES, WHICH THEY WERE, BUT BECAUSE SHE WENT THERE, AND BECAUSE SHE BROUGHT ATTENTION TO THIS, THEY STOPPED BOMBING THE DIKES.

SO SHE WENT THERE TO SAVE LIVES.

SHE WENT THERE TO SUPPORT THE SOLDIERS, SHE WENT THERE TO STOP THE WAR.

AND I THINK SHE HASN'T BEEN GIVEN ENOUGH CREDIT FOR WHAT HER MOVIVES WERE, WHICH WERE COMPLETELY PURE.

SHE MADE SOME MISTAKES WHILE SHE WAS THERE, AND SHE READILY ADMITS THAT.

IT IS A WONDERFUL DOCUMENTARY, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING BACK.

IF ONLY FOR A FEW MINUTES.

I LOVED IT.

THE HBO DOCUMENTARY PHIL AM, JANE FONDA, DEBUTS SEPTEMBER 24th ON HBO.

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