ANONYMOUS RESISTANCE

September 07, 2018 at 5:15 am

A searing New York Times op-ed sets off a wild guessing game about its author after the alleged unknown White House senior official blasts President Donald Trump and many of his policies. We have the details.

Aired on September 6, 2018.

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>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO
"METROFOCUS," I'M JENNA
FLANAGAN.
TALK OF A RESISTANCE WITHIN THE
WHITE HOUSE AND A RECENT
BOMBSHELL "NEW YORK TIMES" OP-ED
ESSAY, ANONYMOUS SENIOR WHITE
HOUSE ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL
CALLED INTO QUESTION PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S JUDGMENT AND SUGGESTED
AIDES HAVE DISCUSSED WAYS TO
REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE.
IN THE OP-ED TITLED "I AM PART
OF THE RESISTANCE INSIDE THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION," THE
ANONYMOUS SOURCE WRITES "TO BE
CLEAR OURS IS NOT A POPULAR
RESISTANCE OF THE LEFT.
WE WANT THE ADMINISTRATION TO
SUCCEED AND THINK THAT MANY OF
ITS POLICIES HAVE ALREADY MADE
AMERICA SAFER AND MORE
PROSPEROUS.
BUT WE BELIEVE OUR FIRST DUTY IS
TO THIS COUNTRY AND THE
PRESIDENT CONTINUES TO ACT IN A
MANNER THAT IS DETRIMENTAL TO
THE HEALTH OF OUR REPUBLIC."
PRESIDENT TRUMP QUICKLY LASHED
OUT DISMISSING THE OP-ED AS
REALLY A DISGRACE AND GUTLESS,
ASSAILING THE AUTHOR AND THE
"NEW YORK TIMES" FOR PUBLISHING
THE ANONYMOUS OP-ED.
>> IT'S THE FAILING "NEW YORK
TIMES" HAS AN ANONYMOUS
EDITORIAL, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT,
ANONUS.
>>> RICK, WELCOME TO THE
PROGRAM.
>> GLAD TO BE HERE.
>> SO FIRST OFF WE JUST HAVE TO
START WITH, IS THERE ANY
HISTORICAL PRECEDENCE FOR THE
ARTICLE THAT WE'VE JUST SEEN?
>> IN A WORD, NO.
AND THE REASON IS, WE'VE JUST
NEVER HAD A PRESIDENT LIKE
DONALD TRUMP SO WE'VE NEVER HAD
OFFICIALS SECOND GUESSING HIM IN
THE WAY THAT THIS OFFICIAL IS
APPARENTLY DOING SO.
I HAVE STUDIED ALL THE
PRESIDENTS IN MY RESEARCH
CAREER, AND THERE'S NOTHING LIKE
THIS.
WE HAVE BASICALLY A MAD KING WHO
IS IN CHARGE OF THE WHITE HOUSE,
WHO'S GOT HIS FINGER ON THE
NUCLEAR CODES.
AND THIS HAS PUT HIS OFFICIALS
IN A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DILEMMA.
THEY WANT TO BE LOYAL.
THEY PRESUMABLY ADMIRE SOMETHING
ABOUT HIM, OTHERWISE THEY
WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN THE JOB, AND
THEY PROBABLY SHARE SOME OF HIS
GOALS AS REPUBLICAN PARTY
OFFICIALS.
BUT WHEN THE KING BEGINS TO ACT
LIKE A MAD KING, THEN THEY'RE
PUT IN THIS TERRIBLE POSITION OF
WEIGHING LOYALTY TO THE MAD KING
OR LOYALTY TO THE COUNTRY.
AND THE RESULT IS THAT WE HAVE A
LOT OF OFFICIALS WHO APPARENTLY
ARE FEELING VERY DISLOYAL RIGHT
NOW.
THEY'RE LOYAL TO THE COUNTRY BUT
THEY'RE DISLOYAL TO THE
PRESIDENT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THIS SEEMS TO
BE AN INCREDIBLY LEAKY WEST
WING.
WE'VE SEEN NUMEROUS INSTANCES OF
EITHER BOOKS, FIRE AND FURY WAS
RELEASED EARLIER THIS YEAR,
THINK OF HER, OMAROSA HAS SAID
NUMEROUS THINGS IN HER OWN BOOK.
WE HAVE THIS BOOK FROM BOB
WOODWARD THAT'S SAYING SIMILAR
THINGS AND THEN THIS OP-ED COMES
OUT.
SO I'M WONDERING, DOES ALL OF
THIS POINT TO THE FACT THAT
THERE MAY POSSIBLY BE SOME SORT
OF SLOW-MOVING COUPE BEHIND THE
SCENES WHEN YOU HAVE OFFICIALS
WHO ARE ACTIVELY SAYING WE ARE
DISMISSING WHAT OUR COMMANDER IN
CHIEF SAYS?
>> WELL, IT'S INTERESTING.
WHEN TRUMP WAS ELECTED I
REMEMBER WRITING ON A BLOG POST
THAT MY REAL HOPE HERE IS THAT
THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM WILL
RESIST WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAYS
IF HE ISSUES SOME CRAZY ORDER.
SUPPOSE HE TOLD MATTIS OVER IN
THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT I WANT
YOU TO BEGIN A WAR WITH SYRIA.
AND START LOBBING MISSILES OVER
THERE, DROP NUCLEAR BOMBS.
REMEMBER, TRUMP HAS TALKED
CARELESSLY ABOUT USING NUCLEAR
BOMBS AND HE ASKED HIS OFFICIALS
AFTER HE BECAME PRESIDENT, HOW
COME WE DON'T USE THESE THINGS
IF WE'VE GOT THEM?
WHAT I WROTE IN MY BLOG POST
WELL, THEN I WOULD WANT THEM TO
DISOBEY A PRESIDENT'S ORDER
WHICH WOULD, EFFECT, BE A --
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
MILITARY DOING WHAT THEY WANT TO
DO.
AND THAT'S SUCH AT VARIANCE WITH
AMERICAN TRADITION AND WHAT WE
ALL THINK SHOULD BE GOING ON.
WE WANT CIVILIAN CONTROL OF THE
GOVERNMENT, NOT THE MILITARY
CONTROLLING THE GOVERNMENT.
BUT IN THAT KIND OF A CASE I
WOULD WANT THE MILITARY TO DO
SOMETHING, I WOULD WANT THEM TO
RESIST, TO LEAK TO MEMBERS OF
THE SENATE AND THE CONGRESS WHAT
WAS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
OR WRITE AN OP-ED THAT SHOWS UP
ON THE OP-ED PAGE OF THE "NEW
YORK TIMES."
>> WELL, WHILE THIS OP-ED HAS
SHOWN UP, WHAT I WILL SAY, AS I
ALLUDED TO WITH ALL THESE
PREVIOUS BOOKS AND PREVIOUS
LEAKS WE'VE SEEN, NOTHING
CHANGES.
HE REMAINS IN CHARGE, NOBODY HAS
TAKEN ANY STEPS TO ATTEMPT TO
REMOVE THIS PRESIDENT.
SO DOES THIS MAKE ANY
DIFFERENCE?
>> WELL, NOTHING'S GOING TO
HAPPEN UNTIL THE ELECTIONS.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GOING TO
STICK WITH DONALD TRUMP UNTIL
THE ELECTION.
AFTER THE ELECTION, IF IT TURNS
OUT THAT THEY LOSE IN A MASSIVE
BLUE WAVE, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO
SEE SOME CHANGES BECAUSE THE
REPUBLICAN FISHES AREN'T GOING
TO WANT TO GO DOWN WITH THE
SHIP.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH
NIXON.
THE REPUBLICANS TURNED AGAINST
NIXON FINALLY IN THE SPRING OF
1974 WHEN THEY SAW THAT HE HAD
LOST PUBLIC SUPPORT.
AND AT THE NEXT ELECTION THEY
DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE ONES WHO
WOUND UP TAKING THE FALL FOR HIS
MISTAKES.
SO NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN
BETWEEN NOW AND THE ELECTION IN
SOME 60 DAYS.
>> WELL, LISTEN, I WANT TO THANK
YOU SO MUCH.
WE, OF COURSE, WOULD LOVE TO
HAVE YOU BACK AS THIS CONTINUES
TO DEVELOP.
WE SHALL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT I GUESS THE BIG THING IS TO
WAIT FOR NOVEMBER.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MAKE
OR BREAK POINT FOR THE TRUMP
WHITE HOUSE.
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, LISTEN,
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
US.
>> THANK YOU.

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