TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

One year after the violent clashes and racial unrest in Charlottesville, Virginia, Frontline and ProPublica investigate the white supremacists and neo-nazis involved. Could this be the same group making headlines for dropping a hate-filled banner right here in the Big Apple? We have the details. As the Mayor directs the NYPD to issue tickets over jail time for those caught with marijuana, Governor Cuomo announces a new work group to regulate our pot market. We visit a local dispensary to meet one of the biggest drug dealers in New York City. New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood goes head to head with President Donald Trump. Tonight, she opens up about criminal justice, reforming the state and suing the Donald J. Trump Foundation. We visit Long Island City, Queens to bring you inside the art and science of neon.

Aired on August 6, 2018. 

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON 'METROFOCUS,' DOCUMENTING HATE.

ONE YEAR AFTER THE VIOLENT CLASHES AND RACIAL UNREST IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA, FRONT LINE AND PROPUBLICA INVESTIGATE THE WHITE SUPREMACIST AND NEO-NAZIS INVOLVED.

ARE THEY THE SAME GROUP MAKING HEADLINES RIGHT HERE IN THE BIG APPLE FOR DROPPING THIS HATE-FILLED BANNER?

THOSE DETAILS AHEAD.

> POT, POLITICS AND THE POLICE ALL BECOME STRANGE BED FELLOWS IN NEW YORK AS THE CITY INCHES TOWARD LEGALIZING THE DRUG FOR RECREATIONAL USE.

GOVERNOR CUOMO ANNOUNCES A NEW WORK GROUP TO REGULATE OUR POT MARKET AND WE'LL TAKE YOU INSIDE A LOCAL DISPENSARY TO MEET ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRUG DEALERS IN THE CITY.

> ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL GOING HEAD-TO-HEAD WITH THE PRESIDENT.

BARBARA UNDERWOOD OPENS UP ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN THE STATE AND SUING DONALD TRUMP.

> THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS 'METROFOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

> THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL, JACK FORD AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

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AND BY PSEG, SERVING CUSTOMERS, STRENGTHENING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND INVESTIGATING IN THE FUTURE.

> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO 'METROFOCUS.'

I'M JENNA FLANAGAN.

WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUP IDENTITY EUROPA HUNG A HUGE BANNER THAT READ 'END THE INVASION, STOP IMMIGRATION.'

IN RESPONSE, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BARK LEVINE TWEETED, QUOTE, ONE YEAR AFTER THEIR VIAL MARCH ON CHARLOTTESVILLE, IDENTITY EUROPA HAS COME TO WASHINGTON HEIGHTS, BUT THEY MESSED WITH THE WRONG COMMUNITY.

THEY REPLIED, QUOTE, YOU CAN'T STOP US.

THEY SHOWCASED THEIR INVESTIGATION IN A FILM TITLED DOCUMENTING HATE, CHARLOTTESVILLE.

HERE IS A QUICK LOOK.

AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE --

THERE'S NEW ENERGY IN THESE MOVEMENTS.

'FRONTLINE' AND PROPUBLICA INVESTIGATE WHO WAS BEHIND THE VIOLENT WHITE SUPREMACIST RALLIES.

THERE'S VIDEO OF YOU LAUNCHING YOURSELF INTO THAT CROWD.

WE THINK HE'S SERVING IN THE MARINES NOW.

WATCH ON AIR OR ON AIR BEGINNING AUGUST 7th.

HERE TO TELL US MORE IS FRONT LINE CORRESPONDENT AND PROPUBLICA REPORTER A.C.

THOMPSON.

WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.

FIRST I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT BANNER THAT WAS HUNG HERE IN NEW YORK CITY.

THE FACT THAT THAT KIND OF I GUESS DISPLAY OF OPEN HATE HAS COME THIS FAR TO NEW YORK, WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT WHAT THESE HATE GROUPS ARE.

ARE THEY VERY STRONG, ARE THEY FEELING EMBOLDENED, ARE THEY STILL VERY ACTIVE?

I WAS INTERVIEWING IDENTITY EUROPA MEMBERS A YEAR AGO IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

WHAT YOU'VE SEEN SINCE THEN IS THE GROUP HAS GONE IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE DROPPED OUT AND WERE CHASTENED BY WHAT HAPPENED IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

SOME LIKE IDENTITY EUROPA SAID WE'LL DO HIT-AND-RUN ACTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO DO BANNER DROPS, POSTERS, FLASH MOBS, BUT WE'RE IN THE GOING TO ANNOUNCE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE AND HAVE A BIG RALLY.

THE THIRD GROUP OF PEOPLE SAID WE SHOULD ENGAGE IN TERRORISM AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

WATCHING THIS FILM, YOU COME AWAY WITH THE FEELING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING OF AN INDICTMENT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

I'M WONDERING IF THAT WAS THE INTENT OR THAT WAS THE WAY IT HAPPENED TO BE PORTRAYED.

THE THING IS, I WAS THERE ON AUGUST 11th AND AUGUST 12th.

I DIDN'T EXPECT THINGS TO GO DOWN THE WAY THEY DID.

I THOUGHT, LOOK, WE'VE HAD 18 MONTHS, ALMOST TWO YEARS OF VIOLENCE AT THESE RALLIES, AND THE POLICE WILL LIKELY STEP IN HERE AND PREVENT THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING.

BUT IN THE END, WHAT WE HAD WAS BASICALLY A TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL.

WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED, IT'S HARD TO COME AWAY WITH ANY CONCLUSION OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A MASSIVE FAILURE ON THE PART OF POLICE.

THAT'S JUST WHERE THE FACTS LED US.

THERE WERE CASES THAT WERE OPENED, INVESTIGATIONS AND PROSECUTIONS, ET CETERA.

BUT WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO TAKE IT FURTHER?

WHY NOT LEAVE IT TO WHAT THE POLICE WERE DOING AND THEIR INVESTIGATION?

MY THING IS I WANTED TO KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE WERE AND U WANTED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IN A JOURNALISTIC SENSE.

HEY, I BELIEVE YOU ENGAGED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

THE POLICE HAVEN'T HAD HELD YOU ACCOUNTABLE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE MOVEMENT.

YOU WANT TO BE IN THE SHADOWS, HITTING AND RUNNING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO EXPOSE THAT.

THAT WAS MY MISSION.

WHAT ROLE DO YOU SEE?

PEOPLE THINK JOURNALIST, THEY SAY YOU'RE INCITING THESE MOBS TO GO AFTER PEOPLE.

I KNOW AT PROPUBLICA AND FRONT LINE WE DON'T SEE OURSELVES THAT WAY.

WE SEE OURSELVES AS PEOPLE LOOKING AT IMPORTANT ISSUES, LOOKING AT POSSIBLE CRIMES AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO THOROUGHLY, DILIGENTLY AND FAIRLY REPORT WHAT WE SEE.

WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WHAT THEY THINK HAPPENED AND WE'RE GOING TO FAIRLY REPORT THAT AND PUT IT OUT THERE.

IT'S A DIFFERENT THING TO ME THAN TRYING TO WHIP UP A SOCIAL MEDIA MOB.

I THINK IT'S CONCERNING, THAT SORT OF CULTURE OF SHAMING, OF HARASSING, OF ABUSE ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND BACK OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD.

MOVING ON, I DO WANT TO ASK ABOUT, THERE'S ONE YOUNG MAN WHO WAS A MARINE, AN ACTIVE DUTY MARINE, I BELIEVE, WHO YOU WERE ABLE TO UNMASK, I GUESS MIGHT BE THE BEST WORD ABOUT IT.

TELL ME ABOUT HIM.

SO HE'S A GUY WHO WAS OUSTED FROM THE MARINE CORPS, YOUNG, EARLY 20s.

HE WAS ACTIVE IN THREE DIFFERENT NEO NAZI GROUPS.

HOW WE GOT INTO LOOKING AT HIM WAS THROUGH CONTACTS WE HAD IN THE NAZI MOVEMENT, HE WAS INVOLVED WITH A GROUP CALLED ADAM THAT WANTED TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT AND INSTALL A FASCIST STATE.

AT THE SAME TIME HE WAS ACTIVE IN THAT GROUP AND IN CHARLOTTESVILLE, HE WAS ALSO GETTING U.S. MILITARY TRAINING AND ACCESS TO WEAPONS.

WE FOUND PRETTY COMPELLING EVIDENCE INCLUDING HIS OWN ONLINE STATEMENTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AS WELL AS PHOTOS AND VIDEO AND WITNESS STATEMENTS THAT HE HAD ASSAULTED MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

HE WAS SAYING THINGS ON LIKE LIKE CRACKED THREE SKULLS TODAY, GOT AWAY WITH IT, VIRTUALLY NO DAMAGE TO MYSELF.

THAT KIND OF STUFF, ABOUT WHAT HE DID IN CHARLOTTESVILLE.

WE PUBLISHED THAT STORY AND THE MARINE CORPS TOOK ACTION AND COURT MARSHALLED HIM.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK THAT YOU DID WITH SO MANY OF THE STORIES YOU'VE DONE.

THIS ONE HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY HELPFUL FOR AMERICANS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A SERIOUS HARD LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY.

THANK YOU.

> DOCUMENTING HATE, CHARLOTTESVILLE, PREMIERS TUESDAY, AUGUST 7th.

CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS.

FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT US AT METRO D'METROMETROFOCUS.ORG.

> GOVERNOR CUOMO RECENTLY REFERRED TO MARIJUANA AS A GATEWAY DRUG IS LEADING THE CHARGE TO LEGALIZE IT IN NEW YORK STATE.

THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH CONCLUDED THERE ARE MORE POSITIVE EFFECTS THAT'S POTENTIAL NEGATIVE EFFECTS.

THE GOVERNOR IS ASSEM NLING A PANEL TO DRAFT LEGISLATION TO LEGALIZE AND REGULATE THE MARIJUANA MARKET.

THAT BILL COULD BE INTRODUCED AS EARLY AS JANUARY.

'METROFOCUS' CORRESPONDENT NAIM DOUGLAS WENT INSIDE MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES AND TALKED TO THE PEOPLE WHO COULD BE SUPPLYING LEGAL WEED TO NEW YORKERS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

CANNABIS DIPS PENSRY ARE POPPING UP ALL ACROSS THE CITY.

THEY MADE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO OBTAIN A PRESCRIPTION.

THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS EXPANDING ITS POLICY ALLOWING POT TO BE PRESCRIBED TO PEOPLE WHO WOULD TYPICALLY BE PRESCRIBED OPIOIDS FOR PAIN, THAT'S IN ADDITION TO 12 CONDITIONS INCLUDING CANCER, HIV AND MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS.

THIS WILL GIVE ACCESS TO THOUSANDS OF NEW YORKERS WHOCHLT ARE THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE COUNTERS PRESCRIBING THIS MEDICINAL MARIJUANA.

WE WENT TO ONE OF THE BIGGEST SUPPLIERS AND THEY HAPPENED TO BE A FEW STEPS AWAY FROM UNION SQUARE.

2018 ADDITIONAL MARIJUANA LOOKS LIKE REGULAR MEDICINE.

IT LOOKED LIKE AN INHALEABLE VAPOR, LOOKS LIKE A CAPSULE, LIKE A TABLET.

SEE HOW IT HAS -- IT'S GOT THE LITTLE LOGO AND IT'S SCORED SO YOU CAN TAKE HALF A DOSE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY DEVELOPING REPOSITORIES FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE ANYTHING FROM SICKLE CELL TO CANCER.

NICHOLAS IS THE VICE CHAIR AND CEO AT COLUMBIA CARE, ONE OF THE FIRST MEDICINAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES AND IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE THAN A PLACE TO BUY POT.

THE WAITING AREA IS SLEEK, INVITING AND COMFORTABLE.

WHEN PEOPLE WALK IN, THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY PROVIDED WITH ACCESS TO INFORMATION, A COMFORTABLE WAITING AREA AND THEY'RE PUTTING TO A MINDSET THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE STREET AND SEPARATE FROM THE ACTIVITIES OF NEW YORK CITY BUT ALSO FROM A TRANSACTION.

ULTIMATELY THIS IS NOT ABOUT A TRANSACTION, IT'S ABOUT LIVING A BETTER LIFE.

THIS IS MIRRORED AT THE DISPENSARY IN THE BRONX AS WELL.

FARM KHAN NIS AND ALSO IN NEW YORK WE TRY TO STRAY AWAY FROM THE REGULAR SMOKE SHOP THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN COLORADO OR CALIFORNIA.

WE WANTED THE PATIENTS TO FEEL THEY ARE IN A MEDICAL OFFICE WHERE THEY GET THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TO MYSELF, THE PHARMACIST, OR ANOTHER PHARMACIST THAT'S HERE OR ONE OF OUR PATIENT CARE REPRESENTATIVES.

IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL COLORADO DISPENSARY.

THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD HAVE BEEN UNIMAGINABLE TEN YEARS AGO OR FIVE YEARS AGO.

NEW YORK STATE LEGALIZED MEDICINAL MARIJUANA IN 2014, SINCE THEN ABOUT A HALF DOZENS DISPENSARIES HAVE OPENED ACROSS THE CITY.

JUST THIS YEAR MED MEN DUBBED THE APPLE STORE OF MARIJUANA OPENED NEAR BRYANT PARK.

AND COLUMBIA CARE IS ON 14th STREET.

E WITH WERE TOLD WE WERE CRAZY, WE'D NEVER GET ANOTHER JOB, WE'VE RUINED OUR CAREERS.

WE COULDN'T TELL OUR FAMILIES WHAT WE DID.

BANKS CALLED US AND CANCELED OUR BANK ACCOUNTS.

IT WAS ALMOST A CERTAINTY, IF YOU ASKED ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ARRESTED AND TARRED AND FEATHERED.

I WENT FROM BEING A PARIAH TO BEING LEGITIMATE.

IT'S BEEN A NICE THING TO SEE FIRSTHAND.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT THING.

I THINK THEY'RE FINALLY SEEING THE BENEFITS OF CANNABIS.

AS A PHARMACIST, I SEE IT EVERY DAY, THE DIFFERENCE IN PATIENTS AND THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE ONCE THEY EAR ON IT FOR SEVERAL WEEKS OR A MONTH AND THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE HAS IMPROVED.

SO FAR THERE ARE ABOUT 50,000 MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENTS STATEWIDE, BUT PROVIDERS THINK THOSE NUMBERS WILL DECLINE AS THE STIGMA OF MARIJUANA IS SHED.

THE BURNING QUESTION, HOW TO BECOME A MEDICINAL MARIJUANA PATIENT.

YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT, A CONDITION THAT CONFORMS TO THE STATE GUIDELINES AND HAVE YOUR DIAGNOSIS CERTIFIED BY THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA PROVIDER.

YOU CAN VISIT THE DISPENSARY AND FIGURE OUT YOUR DOSAGE AND APPLICATION.

THE THIRD AREA OF ACCESS IS THROUGH HERE WHICH IS OUR DISPENSARY FLOOR.

IN OUR DISPENSARY WE THINK ABOUT THIS INTERACTION AGAIN, NOT FROM A TRANSACTION PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM AN EDUCATIONAL AND INTERACTION PERSPECTIVE.

SO YOU'LL NOTICE WE HAVE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE OUR PRODUCTS THAT ARE DISPLAYED, THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR A CONVERSATION IN A PUBLIC ENVIRONMENT.

WE HAVE A PATIENT COUNSELING ROOM IN THE BACK WHERE OUR PHARMACIST CAN ACTUALLY CALL THE PATIENT'S ATTENDING PHYSICIAN OR RECOMMENDER AND HAVE A VERY DETAILED CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR CASE.

IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, MAYOR DeBLASIO TOLD THE NYPD TO STOP ARRESTING NEW YORKERS CAUGHT SMOKING WEED AND ISSUE A SUMMONS.

GOVERNOR CUOMO SAID, QUOTE, THE SITUATION OF MARIJUANA IS CHANGING.

BEGINNING AUGUST 1st, MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAYS HIS OFFICE WILL NO LONGER PURSUE MINOR CANNABIS-RELATED OF FINANCES.

IF YOU ASKED ME SIX MONTHS AGO WHETHER OR NOT GOVERNOR CUOMO WOULD SORT OF EMBRACE A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE TO ADULT USE, I WOULD HAVE SAID ABSOLUTELY NOT.

AND SIX MONTHS LATER, HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT A REPORT THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT WILL LOOK, BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS I HOPE THAT IT BECOMES DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT HAS BECOME IN SOME OTHER PLACES.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT COLORADO, THERE ARE MORE DISPENSARIES THAN McDONALD'S AND STARBUCKS TOGETHER, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD OUTCOME FOR ANYBODY.

WHEN I LOOK AT NEW YORK AND I SEE PEOPLE WALKING IN FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND THEY'RE USING THIS AS A WELL THOUGHT OUT, WELL MANUFACTURED PRODUCT AND I SEE THE DATA COLLECTED AND THE POLICIES BEING DERIVED, IT'S ALMOST LESS IMPORTANT TO ME HOW IT LOOKS.

WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS PEOPLE ARE USING A VERY THOUGHTFUL APPROACH TO GET THERE.

> BARBARA UNDERWOOD HAS TAKEN CHARGE AFTER SHE WAS SWORN IN AS NEW YORK'S NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL, REPLACING ERIC SCHNEIDERMAN WHO RESIGNED AMID ACCUSATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE.

NOW MAKING HEADLINES AGAIN WITH A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.

IN AN INTERVIEW WITH PUBLIC RADIO'S KAREN DeWITT FOR 'NEW YORK NOW,' SHE'S TACKLING HER NEW ROLL AS CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR THE STATE OF NEW YORK.

NEW YORK STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL BARBARA UNDERWOOD.

THANKS FOR JOINING US ON 'NEW YORK NOW.'

HAPPY TO BE HERE.

YOU'VE BEEN ON THE JOB FOR HOW LONG NOW?

HAS IT BEEN THREE MONTHS, A YEAR?

IT'S BEEN ABOUT SEVEN WEEKS I THINK.

WE'RE LAUGHING BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN THAT TIME SINCE ERIC SCHNEIDERMAN ABRUPTLY RESIGNED.

HOW HAS THE OFFICE BEEN COPING IN THE DAYS SINCE HE WAS FORCED TO RESEEN?

VERY WELL.

I THINK FROM THE MOMENT I BECAME ATTORNEY GENERAL, IT WAS MY PRINCIPLE MISSION TO KEEP EVERYBODY LOOKING FORWARD AND PUT THAT BEHIND US.

WE HAD TOO MUCH WORK TO DO TO BE SLOWED DOWN BY ANY OF THAT.

I THINK I'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL OR WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

I THINK EVERYBODY IS FEELING ENERGIZED BY THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR WORK IN THIS MOMENT AND WE CAN'T WASTE TIME.

YOU NEVER EXPECTED TO BE TAKING OVER FOR THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL, RIGHT?

I NEVER EXPECTED TO BE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

I HAVEN'T CONDUCTED MY LIFE IN A WAY THAT WOULD LEAD TO ELECTED OFFICE.

I DO FEEL VERY WELL PREPARED FOR THIS JOB.

YOU'VE CERTAINLY BEEN CONTINUING THE HOPE OF YOUR PREDECESSOR AND FOCUSING ON ISSUES GIVING YOU NATIONAL ATTENTION INCLUDING SUING THE TRUMP FOUNDATION.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

YOU'RE SAYING THE WHOLE FOUNDATION WAS A SHAM.

WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE ACCUSING PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ASSOCIATES OF?

THIS FOUNDATION USED ITS ASSETS TO POTENTIALLY SETTLE LEGAL OBLIGATIONS OF VARIOUS TRUMP BUSINESSES, HOTELS, THE GOLF COURSE AND TO FUND POLITICAL ACTIVITIES AND FUND THE CAMPAIGN OF DONALD TRUMP AND ALSO THE CAMPAIGN OF OTHER PEOPLE.

THESE ARE NOT APPROPRIATE USES OF A CHARITABLE FOUNDATION'S MONEY.

YOU GAINED INSTANT NATIONAL ATTENTION FOR THAT.

I KNOW THE OTHER ONE IS A LAWSUIT OVER THE FORCED SPARATION OF IMMIGRANT CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS.

YOU'RE WITH SEVERAL OTHER STATE ATTORNEYS GENERAL ON THAT.

A SAN DIEGO JUDGE RULED THAT IN 30 DAYS THEY'D HAVE TO REUNIFY THE CHILDREN AND PARENTS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'LL ENFORCE THAT.

ARE YOU STILL PURSUING IT?

WE'RE STILL PURSUING IT.

THE EXISTENCE OF PARALLEL LAWSUITS SEEKING SIMILAR RESULTS IS NOT UNCOMMON.

THE SAN DIEGO JUDGE'S ORDER HASN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

IT WILL BE LITIGATED.

WE'RE IN TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE IN THAT CASE AND RECORD IT AS COMPETITIVE.

WE'RE ALL TRYING TO SOLVE A TERRIBLE PROBLEM OR GET THE COURTS TO SOLVE --

DO YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO ENFORCE WHAT THE SHAIG JUDGE HAS RULED?

I THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS OBLIGED TO TRY.

I ALSO NOTICE THAT YOUR LAWSUIT SAYS THERE'S 321 SEPARATED CHILDREN IN NEW YORK STATE.

GOVERNOR CUOMO SAYS HE THINKS THE NUMBER IS CLOSER TO 700.

AT ONE POINT HE SAID IT MIGHT BE 1,200.

WHAT IS THE DISCREPANCY?

DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER?

IT'S HARD TO HAVE EXACT NUMBERS FOR THIS REASON.

THERE ARE NUMBERS FOR THE PLACEMENT OF UNACCOMPANIED MINORS.

THERE ARE UNACCOMPANIED MINORS WHO ARRIVE UNACCOMPANIED AND THEN THERE ARE THESE CHILDREN WHO ARRIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS AND ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AND ARE TRANSFORMED INTO UNACCOMPANIED MINORS.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE STATISTICS AREN'T KEPT SEPARATELY ON THEM.

SO ESTIMATES ARE BEING MADE.

DO YOU FIND IT DISTURBING THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE CHILDREN ARE HERE?

IT IS RELATED TO THE BASIC PROBLEMS THAT, WHEN YOU SEPARATE CHILDREN FROM MINORS -- CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS, YOU ARE INFLICTING TERRIBLE HARM ON THEM, THAT YOU OUGHT TO BE TAKING MEASURES THAT WILL MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO REUNITE THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND RECORDKEEPING IS PART OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT RECORDS THEY HAVE.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN ANY FIRM FORM.

IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER, DOES IT, WHETHER IT'S 300 OR 1,200.

IT'S ENOUGH CHILDREN -- ONE WOULD BE TERRIBLE, SEVERAL HUNDRED IS -- AND THAT'S JUST NEW YORK.

OUR PARTNER STATES EACH HAVE THEIR HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN.

THE FACT THAT THE STATE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THE NEW YORK CITY MAYOR DIDN'T.

THAT'S A DISTURBING THING TO DISCOVER.

IT IS INDEED AND THE WORLD REALLY HAS RISEN UP IN OUTRAGE.

IT'S REALLY REMARKABLE.

IT SEEMS TO CROSS POLITICAL LINES, ALL OTHER KINDS OF LINES.

WE WILL PRESS ON WITH THE CHASE.

FOR THE REST OF YOUR TERM, PROBABLY MORE EXCITING THINGS FROM YOU IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.

> COMBINING ART WITH SCIENCE CAN LEAD TO ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES.

LONG ISLAND CITY BASED ARTIST KENNY GREENBERG TAKES US INSIDE HIS STUDIO, CRIP TON NEON FOR A CLOSER LOOK.

I WAS DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR A COMBINATION OF ART AND SCIENCE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE I THOUGHT NEON CAME FROM, BUT YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.

YOU DON'T LOOK AT A LIGHT BULB AND THINK ABOUT HOW IT'S MADE.

WHEN I LEARNED THAT EVERY SINGLE NEON SIGN THAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN ANYWHERE WAS MADE BY HAND, THAT JUST REALLY ATTRACTED ME.

I THINK ALSO WHAT I LOVED THEN AND STILL LOVE ABOUT IT IS IT'S ACTUALLY A VERY OLD TECHNOLOGY.

WHAT WE DO TODAY IS NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS GOING ON 100 YEARS AGO.

WE'RE TAKING MATTER AND MAKING LIGHT.

WE'RE TURNING MATTER INTO LIGHT ENERGY, AND WE DO THAT EVERY DAY KIND OF CASUALLY.

BUT IT'S KIND OF REALLY THRILLING.

THE FIRST PRODUCTION I WORKED ON WAS THE ORIGINAL BROADWAY 'MISS SAIGON.'

THERE WAS A PERIOD WHERE ON AVERAGE I WAS DOING 12 A YEAR.

WE KIND OF HAVE A REPUTATION FORGETTING THE JOB DONE.

THE JOKE IS SOMETIMES I'LL GET CALLED BY ONE OF THE SENIOR SHOPS AND THEY'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TIME FOR THIS ONE THIS TIME.

WE'VE GOT TWO WEEKS.

I'LL BASICALLY TRACE OVER THE DESIGN ON THE COMPUTER, AND I DO WHAT I CALL NEONIZING IT AND THAT BECOMES A TEMPLATE.

WE ACTUALLY REVERSE IT BECAUSE NEON IS BENT SO THAT ITS FACE IS ALWAYS FLAT.

SO WE'RE BENDING IT FROM BEHIND.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT SHOULD WE MAKE.

WE SEAL IT AND WE ALLOW A PORT TO COME OUT OF IT.

IT'S GOING TO KIND OF COLLAPSE A LITTLE BIT.

WHEN I'M BLOWING IT, I'M BLOWING IT OUT TO PRESERVE THE CHANNEL.

MATCHING IT TO THE PATTERN, BLOCKING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

WE CAN PULL ALL OF THE AIR OUT OF IT, AND WE ACTUALLY HEAT IT WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT SO WE MAKE SURE WE GET ALL OF THE MATTER OUT OF IT AND WE TRY TO ACHIEVE AS CLOSE TO AN OUTER SPACE EMPTINESS AS POSSIBLE INSIDE THE TUBE.

TURNING UP THE VACUUM PUMP, ENGAGE AND THEN WE FILL IT WITH A RARE GAS AND IT'S FILLED AT A LOW PRESSURE.

AND WHEN AN ELECTRIC CURRENT PAPSS THROUGH THE RARE GAS, THERE'S A VERY, VERY EFFICIENT EXCHANGE OF ENERGY.

WHAT HAPPENS IS -- IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE, BUT A SIMPLIFIED EXPLANATION IS THAT THE ELECTRICITY KNOCKS ELECTRONS OFF THE ATOMS AND THESE ELECTRONS BOUNCE AROUND AND KNOCK INTO OTHER ATOMS AND ELECTRONS AND GET PUSHED BACK IN TO THE AT TOM AGAIN.

AT THE MOMENT THAT IT'S PUSHED BACK INTO THE AT TOM, THE AT TOM HAS TO RELEASE ENERGY IN ORDER TO ABSORB IT AND THAT ENERGY IS LIGHT.

THAT'S AIR LIGHTING UP.

WELL, THE GASES THEMSELVES, THERE'S REALLY ONLY FOUR OR FIVE RARE GASES.

THE COLOR RANGES NOT THAT MUCH IN THE GASES THEMSELVES.

IN FACT, IN MOST NEON YOU'RE SEEING, WE OR USUALLY ONLY USING ONE OR TWO GASES.

ONE GAS IS GIVING US A RED LIGHT AND THE OTHER GAS IS GIVING US A BLUE LIGHT THAT HAS A LOT OF ULTRAVIOLET IN IT AS WELL.

BUT IF THE TRUBS COATED WITH PHOSPHORUS, THEY REACT TO THE ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT AND WE START TO SEE ADDITIONAL COLORS COMING FROM THE ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT AFFECTS THE PHOSPHORUS, AND THERE'S GREEN AND PURPLE, ALL DIFFERENT COLORS.

AND AT THE SAME TIME SOME OF THE BLUE LIGHT FILTERS THROUGH THE PHOSPHOR BECAUSE IT'S A THIN COATING.

SO YOU GET A MIX OF WHATEVER THE PHOSPHOR ROUSE IS PUTTING OUT AND THE VISIBLE BLUE LIGHT.

ADD TO THAT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE DIFFERENT COLORED GLASS.

SO THE GLASS CAN KIND OF INTENSIFY THE COLORS.

I THINK AT LAST COUNT I USUALLY USE A NUMBER OF PROBABLY ABOUT TWO TO 300 DLOORS ARE AVAILABLE.

IF WE OR WORKING WITH HAND-BLOWN GLASS, YOU CAN GET DIMENSIONAL WITH IT AS WELL.

I THINK THE VARIATIONS ARE KIND OF ENDLESS.

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