“AFTEREFFECT”

July 12, 2018 at 5:00 am

WNYC Studios’ new podcast, “Aftereffect,” explores how our country fails developmentally disabled people.

Aired on July 11, 2018. 

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>> IN THE SUMMER OF 2016, A
VIRAL VIDEO CAPTURED THE NATION.
AN AUTISTIC MAN WAS CONFRONTED
BY POLICE.
DURING THE INCIDENT POLICE FIRED
A SHOT THAT HIT KINSEY IN THE
THIGH.
THE BULLET WAS MADE FOR RIO
SOTO.
A DEEPER LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED
AFTER THE CAMERAS MOVED ON.
HERE IS A PREVIEW.
>> IN 2016, A POLICE SHOOTING
ENDING THE LIFE OF A 26-YEAR-OLD
AUTISTIC MAN.
>> THIS GUY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
ROAD AND HE HAS.
>> IT MAKES IT HORRIFYING THAT
DISABLED HATE IS EVERYWHERE.
IT IS NORMAL.
>> WE ARE JOINED BY HEALTH
REPORTER AND HOST AUDREY QUINN.
WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> THIS PODCAST TOUCHES SO MANY
ISSUES.
HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO GO INTO
THIS PARTICULAR STORY?
>> WE WERE INTERESTED STARTING
LAST SUMMER IN THE ISSUE OF
AUTISTIC ADULTS IN GENERAL AND
WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT CHILDREN
AND AUTISM IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GROW
UP.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE.
AND SO STARTED I STARTED MAKING
PHONE CALLS BASICALLY TO
AUTISTIC ADULTS ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY AND ASKED THEM WHAT DO
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GROW UP
AND YOU LEAVE THE SCHOOL WITH
AUTISTIC PROGRAMS BEHIND.
AND STARTED TO HEAR ABOUT
UNADDRESSED ISSUES.
AND PEOPLE BRINGING UP WHAT
HAPPENED TO RENALDO RIOS SOTO
SAYING THIS IS MY WORST FEAR.
>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT WE AREN'T ADDRESSING.
>> ONCE YOU LEAVE THE SCHOOL
SYSTEM, FOR THE MOST PART YOUR
SERVICES END.
LESS YOU ARE ON THE HIGHEST
NEEDS OF THE SPECTRUM, YOU ARE
NOT ENTITLED TO EXTRA HELP.
MAYBE THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE HELP
FINDING A JOB, HELP KEEPING A
JOB, HELP PAYING RENT.
HELP WITH BASIC LIFE MANAGEMENT
STUFF.
A LOT OF FOLKS COULD USE THAT TO
GET BY INDEPENDENTLY.
ONE THING THAT CAME UP A LOT IS
THAT AUTISTIC PEOPLE OF COLOR
ARE DOUBLY DISADVANTAGED BOTH
THAT THEY ARE UNDER DIAGNOSED
AND MORE LIKELY TO HAVE THEIR
BEHAVIOR SEEN AS CRIMINALS AS OF
THE CASE OF RENALDO.
DISABILITY ISSUES WITH POLICE
INTERVENTION, ISSUES AROUND
TREATMENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY
ABUSIVE.
AND KIND OF ALL OF THOSE CAME
TOGETHER WITH HIS STORY.
>> YOU HAVE AN AUTISTIC MAN OF
COLOR AND AN AIDE.
>> OF COURSE I CAN'T SAY WHAT
THE POLICE WERE THINKING.
BUT I THINK THAT THESE TWO MEN
ON THE STREET DIDN'T FIT THE
IDEA OF WHAT A CARE WORKER LOOKS
LIKE.
OF WHAT A DISABLED PERSON LOOKS
LIKE.
AND MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY
WERE SEEN FOR THEIR RACE.
>> I UNDERSTAND MR. KINSEY HAS A
LAWSUIT AGAINST THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, DO WE KNOW HOW THAT
IS GOING?
>> IT IS STILL UNDER
CONSIDERATION.
THE CASE PROBABLY WON'T HIT THE
COURTS UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
>> ALL RIGHT.
AND WE HEARD THERE IS A LOT OF
DISABLED HATE OUT THERE.
HOW DOES THAT GET ADDRESSED IN
THE PODCAST?
>> SO ONE THING THAT I REALLY
HOPE TO BRING UP WITH THIS
PODCAST IS HOW WE KIND OF
INTERNALIZE THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE
WHO ACT DIFFERENTLY AREN'T SAFE
IN OUR COMMUNITIES, NOT SAFE FOR
THEM TO BE OUT THERE ON THEIR
OWN.
NOT SAFE FOR US TO BE OUT.
AND HOW WE MAY NOT REALIZE, WE
DON'T REALIZE, IT HAS DEADLY
CONSEQUENCES TO SAY THESE PEOPLE
DON'T BELONG HERE
>> IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR THIS
P
PODCAST, BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE
MORE STORIES.
YOU CAME ACROSS MORE STORIES
THAT WOULD FURTHER THIS.
>> I AM WORKING ON AN
INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT LOOKING
INTO A COMPANY WHERE ARNALDO WAS
SENT AFTER THE SHOOTING.
>> WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
JOINING US.
AND OF COURSE FOR REMINDING US
OF THE STORY.
UNFORTUNATELY IT MIGHT HAVE
SLIPPED A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS
AND WE WILL BE LISTENING TO THE
PODCAST.
>> THANKS SO MUCH.
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EFFECTS, VISIT OUR WEBSITE
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