TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

In a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court has upheld President Trump’s travel ban. So, what does this ruling mean for those from targeted Muslim-majority countries? Long Island Congressman Tom Suozzi gives us his firsthand account of life inside MercyFirst, a child immigrant facility, as the U.S.-Mexico border issue escalates with children in the crosshairs. Are monster storms becoming more frequent and more severe? PBS’ “NOVA” gives us the science behind the “Rise of Superstorms.” Two filmmakers used 30 years of their own footage to illustrate the history of protest and activism in America. Tonight, one of them is here with a preview of the documentary.

Aired on June 26, 2018. 

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS.

THE BORDER CRISIS CONTINUES WHILE THE PRESIDENT TAKES AIM AT THE MEDIA.

WE HAVE THE LATEST.

> FROM SANDY TO MARIA, MONSTER STORMS BECOMING MORE FREQUENT AND INTENSE?

NOVA GIVES US THE SCIENCE BEHIND THE RISE OF SUPERSTORMS.

> AND WORKING IN PROTECTS.

TWO FILM MAKERS USE THEIR OWN FOOTAGE TO NAR EIGHT ACTIVISM IN THE UNITED STATES ONLY TO DISCOVER THE MORE THINGS CHANGE THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME.

SOMEONE HERE WITH A PREVAU.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS METROFOCUS STARTS RIGHT NOW.

ANNOUNCER: THIS IS METROFOCUS.

WITH RAFAEL PI RAMAN, JACK FORD AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

FUNDING FOR IN PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY --

> IT'S HAPPENING.

IT'S NOT BUILD THAT WALL ANYMORE IT'S KINNING BUILDING THAT WALL.

BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING IT.

WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TOR MORE AND WE'LL GET IT DONE.

THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO PROTECT ILLEGALS COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY, SOME OF WHOM ARE NOT GOOD.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO METROFOCUS.

I'M RAFAEL PI RAMAN.

THE PRESIDENT TOOK AIM AT IMMIGRATION, THE MEDIA AND EVEN THE LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOSTS DURING A RALLY YESTERDAY.

LOOK AT ALL THOSE FAKE NEWSERS BACK THERE.

THAT'S A LOT.

THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.

ONE OF THE OPPOSING NETWORKS, YOU KNOW THE ENEMY, THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE I CALL THEM.

YOU WORSE THAN I AM.

THESE PEOPLE.

NO, WE JUST WANT HONESTY.

WE WANT A LITTLE FAIRNESS.

I'M LOVING WHAT WE ARE DOING.

YOU PEOPLE LOVE WHAT WE DO.

I THINK THE GUY ON CBS IS -- WHAT A LOW LIFE.

WHAT A LOW-LIFE.

HONESTLY ARE THESE PEOPLE FUNNY?

AND I CAN LAUGH AT MYSELF.

FRANKLY IF I COULDN'T I'D BE IN BIG TROUBLE.

BUT THERE IS NO TALENT.

THEY'RE NOT LIKE TALENTED PEOPLE.

HERE IN NEW YORK THE TONE WAS QUITE DIFFERENT.

MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO SAYS HIS OFFICE ESTIMATES THERE ARE ABOUT 300 SEPARATED IMMIGRANT CHILDREN IN THE CITY, THAT THE FED HAVES NO GAME PLAN TO REUNITE THEM WITH PARENTS APPEAR AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS CONTINUED TO IGNORE HIS REQUESTS FOR FURTHER INFORMATION.

IN ALBANY GOVERNOR CUOMO ANNOUNCED NEW YORK WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING AND OTHER SERVICES FOR IMMIGRANT CHILDREN SEPARATED AND UNACCOMPANIED IN OUR STATE.

THE GOVERNOR STRESSED HE WILL DO ALL KE TO REUNITE CHILDREN WITH RELATIVES.

AND AS AMERICANS CONTINUE TO FOLLOW STORIES OF FAMILIES BEING SEPARATED AT THE BORDER, THE RESIDENTS OF SESS PAY STREET ARE BEING DEPLOYED TO HELP.

THE SESS WHO HE WORK HOP IS WORK WITH NON-PROFIT GROUPS TO PROVIDE TOOL KITS FOR CAREGIVERS TAKING CARE OF THE SEPARATED CHILDREN, MANY OF WHOM ARE LIKELY TO BE TRAUMATICIZED BY EXPERIENCE.

AND AS THE SITUATION CONTINUES AT THE BORDER, LONG ISLAND CONGRESSMAN TOM SWAZY HAD A CHANCE TO TOUR A FACILITY WHERE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FROM FAMILIES ARE BEING HELD.

LIKE MANY OTHERS THE CONGRESSMAN IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TOLL THAT FAMILIES SEPARATION IS TAKING ON THE CHILDREN.

JENNA FLANAGAN HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH UP WITH THE CONGRESSMAN.

JENNA.

THANKS, RAF.

CONGRESSMAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES TO COVER HERE.

BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE BORDER AND OF COURSE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THE PRESIDENT MADE, I WANT TO START WITH YOUR REACTION TO THE SUPREME COURT'S RECENT DECISION TO UPHOLD THE PRESIDENT'S TRAVEL BAN.

I WAS SURPRISED THAT THE SUPREME COURT DID NOT RECOGNIZE THE RELIGIOUS BIAS BASED UPON THE HISTORY AND BASED UPON THE LOWER COURT RULINGS.

IT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE AND MANY AMERICANS THAT THE PRESIDENT'S EFFORTS IN THIS AREA -- WHILE IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROTECT NATIONAL SECURITY -- ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TOWARDS TARGETING MUSLIMS AND MUSLIM COMMUNITIES.

IT SENDS A BAD MESSAGE ABOUT AMERICA AND ABOUT VALUES.

BUT THE SUPREME COURT IS THE SUPREME COURT.

AND NOW THAT'S THE LAW OF THE LAND.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, TABLING THAT, IF IT'S POSSIBLE AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, I DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU TRAVELED TO THE BORDER.

AND YOU GOT A CHANCE TO TOUR SOME OF THE DETENTION FACILITIES.

FIRST OFF, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO WHAT IT WAS YOU WERE SEEING WHEN YOU GOT DOWN TO THE SOUTH BORDER?

WELL, WE ALSO WENT TO TALK TO THE BORDER PATROL AS WELL AS WELL AS TO GO TO EL PASO TO THE TORNILLO FACILITY, A NEW FACILITY.

THE FACILITY IS RUN BY H.H.S., THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THROUGH OFFICE OF REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT.

IT'S AND IT'S A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR THAT'S BEEN IN BUSINESS 75 YEARS.

IT'S A NOT FOR PROFIT THAT RESPONDS TO EMERGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

AND QUITE FRANKLY IT WAS A VERY WELL-RUN FACILITY.

AND FOR THE TERRIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT BROUGHT RISE TO THE NEED FOR A FACILITY LIKE THIS, WHICH IS I COMPLETELY OPPOSE THE PRESIDENT'S POLICY AND WE'RE HAPPY IT'S BEEN REVERSED.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE FURTHER FALLOUT FROM THAT POLICY IS.

BUT CONSIDERING THE TERRIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES, A FACILITY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT, TEMPERATURES OVER 100 DEGREES THAT DAY.

IT WAS A WELL-RUN FACILITY.

THE TENTS WERE AIR-CONDITIONED.

THERE WERE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

THERE WAS A DINING HALL, MEDICAL FACILITIES.

TO ME THE HEAT WAS SO OPPRESSIVE BUT KIDS WERE OUT PLAYING SOCCER.

AND THERE WAS SUFFICIENT STAFF IT APPEARED TO ME TO BE- HAVE GOOD -- GOOD HANDLED HANDLE ON THE SITUATION.

IT WAS VERY PERCEIVINGLY RUN.

I WAS HAPPILY SURPRISED.

.PICTURES WE SEE OF KIDS IN CAGES ON MATS.

UM-HUM.

ARE OFTEN BY THE -- THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WHEN THEY'RE FIRST DID HE TINNED AND APPREHENDED BEFORE THEY ARE PUT THREW PROCESSING AND SENT TO THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SO WHEN THE BORDER PATROL FIRST APPREHENDS THE FAMILIES AND SEPARATES THE KIDS THEY ARE PUT IN THESE MORE RUDIMENTARY FACILITIES.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE VISITED THE MOTHERS AND THEY REALLY DESCRIBED AWFUL SITUATIONS.

THE MOTHERS ARE JUST DESPERATE WAILING, SO DISTRAUGHT ABOUT WHERE THERE KIDS ARE.

IN THIS FACILITY THE IT WAS WELL RUN THE KIDS ARE CALM.

SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AND PEOPLE WITH US SPOKE SPANISH AND ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS OF THE CHILDREN.

AND TWO OF THE KIDS -- THE PARENTS WERE DEPORTED TO GUATEMALA AND.

THEY WANTED TO STAY IN AMERICA AND GO A SPONSOR IN AMERICA.

THAT DOES SOUND MORE HOPEFUL THAN THE STORIES WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING DETAINED.

NOW, I ALSO DO WANT TO ASK, THOUGH, ABOUT WHAT WAS YOUR TAKE ON IF THE KIDS SEEM LIKE THEY WERE OKAY, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE FACILITY?

YOU SAID THAT IT SEEMED TO BE A VERY WELL-RUN FACILITY.

BUT FOR THE STAFF IN CHARGE, DID THEY FEEL OVERWHELMED OR DID THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT THEY NEED TO GIVE THE KIDS THE HELP THEY NEED.

AT THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, THE STAFF WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL, FELT -- WERE NOT OVERWHELMED AT THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY BUT THERE ARE COMMENTS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE THEY DIDN'T SUPPORT THE POLICY OF SEPARATING KIDS FROM FAMILY IN THE FIRST PLACE.

MANY ARE PROFESSIONAL SOCIAL WORKERS, MENTAL HEALTH WORKERS, MEDICAL WORKERS.

ANY DID NOT LIKE THIS POLICY.

AND LET ME MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR.

YOU KNOW, WHILE THE -- THE VIEW OF THE CHILDREN THAT I SAW IN THE BRIEF TIME THAT I WAS THERE WAS THAT THINGS WERE RELATIVELY UNDER CONTROL AND CALM, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THESE CHILDREN ARE FACING LONG-TERM PSYCHOLOGICAL CONSEQUENCES OF BECAUSE OF BEING SEPARATED FROM FAMILIES IN A FOREIGN LAND.

WE HAVE TO BE COULD GO NIZANT OF THE FACT THAT IS A LONG-TERM ISSUE.

OF COURSE AND NOT ONLY WERE THE CHILDREN SAW AT THE BORDER BEING DETAINED BUT WE HAVE COME TO FIND OUT THERE HAVE BEEN DETAINED CHILDREN TAHOE HAVE BEEN DISPERSED TO VARIOUS LOCATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY, SOME EVEN IN YOUR BACKYARD.

MERCY FIRST WAS STARTED BY THE SISTERS OF MERCY OVER 100 YEARS AGO IN SIOCET AND THEY HAVE CAPACITY FOR 00 CHRN AND THEY HAVE EIGHT CHILDREN SEPARATED FROM PARENTS.

I WENT THERE ON MONDAY AND THOSE KIDS WERE JOINED BY TWO MORE CHILDREN THAT HAD BEEN SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS -- OR STRIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY WERE SEPARATED FROM PARENTS BUT THEY JOINED THIS FACILITY OVER THE WEEKEND.

UM-HUM.

SO IT WASN'T FROM EIGHT CHILDREN TO 10 CHILDREN.

AND KIDS AS YOUNG AS 4 YEARS OL, 5 YEARS OLD, UP TO 17 YEARS OLD.

SO, AGAIN, A PROFESSIONALLY RUN FACILITY.

REALLY EXPERT PEOPLE, REALLY FOCUSED ON A MISSION OF TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR CHILDREN'S WELFARE.

BUT THESE ARE JUST BAD CIRCUMSTANCES.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THE FRUSTRATION WE HAVE SEEN SPOKEN BY MAYOR DE BLASIO OR EVEN GOVERNOR CUOMO, WHO BOTH SAID THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT JUST WASN'T DISSEMINATED TO LEGAL GOVERNMENTS ABOUT WHICH KIDS ARE THERE.

HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE HOW LONG THEY WILL BE THERE.

AND SO MANY DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.

AND THE GOVERNOR'S ANNOUNCEMENT HE IS GOING TO BE SUING THE ADMINISTRATION.

THIS IS A BIG CHALLENGE.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT -- A LOT OF GOVERNMENTS ARE LARGE MAGI GATEN BEEMTth.

AND AS A PRACTICAL MATTER WAS THE PARENTS ARE DETAINED UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF THE HOMELAND SECURITY FOLKS.

WHETHER BORDER PATROL OR I.C.E.

OR WHEREVER THEY ARE IN THE PARTICULAR PART OF THE SYSTEM.

THE CHILDREN ARE BEING DETAINED THROUGH HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES UNDER THE OFF OF REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT.

ONE GROUP HAS A DATABASE WHERE THE KIDS ARE.

THE OTHER HAS THE DATABASE OF WHERE THE PARENTS ARE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE DATABASES ARE MATCHED AND THAT THERE IS COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TWO.

YOU KNOW, I ASKED SEVERAL TIMES BOTH IN TEXAS AND IN NEW YORK ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A KID THAT'S -- YOU KNOW A YOUNGED CHILD THAT DOESN'T KNOW HIS OR HER LAST NAME.

AND YOU KNOW CAN'T REALLY COMMUNICATE WHERE THEY WERE FROM.

UM-HUM.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALTHOUGH WE HAVE BEEN ASSURED -- IT WAS BY BORDER PATROL -- WHEN CHILDREN ARE FIRST PROCESSED AND THE FAMILIES ARE FIRST PROCESSED THEY KEEP THE INFORMATION IN A DATABASE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE CHILDREN DON'T GET MIXED UP SOMEWHERE PLOONG THE WAY.

THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY WEARING AN ID BAND TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEIR NAMES ARE OR WHERE THEY'RE FROM ORIGINALLY.

WELL, OF COURSE.

CONGRESSMAN.

AND I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.

BUT THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I UNDERSTAND ARE ATTEMPTING TO BE ADDRESSED AT THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL.

AND SO FAR WE HAVE SEEN TWO CONSERVATIVE BILLS FAIL.

THERE WAS A MORE MODERATE BILL THAT HAS BEEN PUSH OFF TO THIS WEEK.

STILL A CONSERVATIVE BILL.

IT'S NOT AURT PROCESS BILL IT'S STILL VERY CONSERVATIVE BILL.

I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS IT DOENS HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.

IT DOES NOT HAVE MY SUPPORT.

WHAT IS IT YOU NEED TO SEE TO GET YOUR SUPPORT ON ONE OF THE PIECES OF LEGISLATION.

I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR I WOULD SUPPORT BORDER SECURITY.

I WOULD PUT IN THE $25 BILLION OR WHATEVER THE PRESIDENT IS LOOKING FOR FOR BORDER SECURITY.

IF HE WANTS TO DO A PHYSICAL STRUCTURES IN SOME PLACES OR TECHNOLOGY OR BORDER PATROL I WOULD SUPPORT THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THAT UNLESS THERE IS ALSO AN ATTEMPT TO DO COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM.

THERE IS 11 MILLION PLUS PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE BEEN HERE SOME FOR 30 YEARS THAT ARE LIVING UNDERGROUND, LIVING UNTHIS SPECTER OF WHAT'S GOING ON UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION THAT'S PUSHING IMMIGRANTS FURTHER UNDERGROUND.

WE NEEDED ROWE WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THEM NOT JUST THE DREAMER.

THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT TO GIVE ENEMY A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP.

BUT LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO REGULARIZE OR MANY LEGALIZE THE 11 MILLION PLUS PEOPLE IN COUNTRY TO BECOME PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY.

NOT LIVING UNDER GROUND.

COOPERATING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER OFFICIALS TO MAKE YOU'RE LIVES BETTER.

IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 30 YEARS IN OUR COUNTRY.

WE NEED TO FINALLY ADDRESS IT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT WITH ONLY ONE HOUSE -- ONE SIDE PRESSING BILLS THROUGH WITHOUT COMMUNICATING WITH THE DEMOCRATS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- I'M FOR BORDER SECURITY.

I'M FOR REGULARIZING THE 11 MILLION PLUS PEOPLE.

I'M FOR GIVING A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP FOR THE DREAMERS.

AND I'M FOR TREATING PEOPLE LIKE HUMAN BEINGS.

I'M NOT REDUCING LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

I'M NOT FOR SCARING PEOPLE EVEN FURTHER THAN THEY ARE.

AND NOT FOR A PIECEMEAL APPROACH ONLY DRESS ADDRESSING SOME OF THE PROBLEM AND NOT THE PROBLEM WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 30 YEARS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND GIVING US YOUR TAKE ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE TO GET IMMIGRATION LEGISLATION THROUGH.

AND OF COURSE TO GIVE US YOUR PERSONALIZED TAKE ON WHAT YOU SAW AT LEAST GOING OH ON AT THE BERD.

THANK YOU.

JENN AIRE, THANKS FOR THE TIME.

ABSOLUTELY.

> WHEN SUPERSTORM SANDY MADE LANDFALL NEAR NEW JERSEY NEARLY SIX YEARS AGO IT SHOCKED A REGION NOT USED TO DEVASTATING POWER OF HURRICANES.

THAT STORM KILLED DOZENS AND BROUGHT NEW YORK CITY TO A STAND TILL.

FLOODING COASTAL AREAS, DESTROYING HOMES AND LEAVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WITHOUT POWER FOR DAYS.

THE IMPACT OF SANDY ON OUR REGION CAN STILL BE FELT TODAY.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE UPCOMING 15-MONTH SHUT DOWN OF THE L TRAIN TO TUNNELS DANIELS.

SUPERSTORMTS MAY BE RARE BUT SCIENTISTING WARNED THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE FOR LONG.

EVEN BIG ARE AND MORE FREQUENT STORMS COULD BE THE NEW NORMAL.

IN JUST A ONE-MONTH PERIOD LAST YEAR THREE MONSTER HURRICANES HARVEY, IRMA AND MARIA TORE THROUGH THE CARIBBEAN AND UNITED STATES KILLING HUNDREDS AND CAUSING MORE THAN $100 BILLION IN DAMAGE.

RISE OF THE SUPERSTORMS, A NEW DUPLICATORY FROM OUR FRIENDS AT NOVA LOOKS AT THE SCIENCE BEHIND THESE MASSIVE STORMS AND AT THE CUTTING EDGE RESEARCH BEING DONE TO BETTER PREDICT AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT BIG ONE.

HERE IS A PREVIEW.

HARVEY IN.

WINDS IN EXCESS OF 190-MILE-PER-HOUR.

IRMA.

DO NOT WIT FOR THIS SKORM ZPLO MARIA THREE MONSTER HURRICANES IN A SINGLE MONTH.

THE ISLAND RIGHT HERE WAS ON TOP OF US.

IS IT A FLUKE OR THE NEW NORMAL.

IT'S HAPPENING MORE OFTEN WITH WARM O WARMER OCEANS AND CLIMB CHANGE.

WE'RE PUTTING A LIFE VEST ON SFWLU OKAY.

ARE WE PREPARED FOR THE RISE OF THE STORM STORMS ON NOVA?

AND JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE DOCUMENTARY AS PART OF OUR PEARL AND PROMISE INITIATIVE OF THE HUMAN IMPACT OF CLIMATE CHANGE, IS THE WRITER, PRODUCER AND DIRECTOR OF NOVA RISE OF THE IS SUPERSTORMS LEASELE CLARK.

LEASELE WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

NOW, LEASELE, IN THE DOCUMENTARY YOU MAKE THE COMPELLING CASE THAT LAST YEAR'S HURRICANES WERE AN UNPRECEDENTED VET IF YOU ADD THEM ALTOGETHER.

UNPRECEDENTED WERE THE HURRICANES.

WELL IT HAD BEEN 13 YEARS SINCE A MAJOR HURRICANE CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE HAD ACTUALLY MADE LANDFALL IN U.S. TERRITORY.

SO FOR -- FOR THREE TO HIT BACK TO BACK IN ONE YEAR WAS QUITE DEVASTATING.

HURRICANES ARE KNOWN TO ACTUALLY HIT IN SUCCESSION.

PEOPLE SAY THEY CAN COME IN CLUSTERS ALMOST LAKE BANANAS COME IN CLUSTERS.

THEY ARE KNOWN TO DO THAT IF THE CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT.

AND LAST YEAR, LAST FALL CONDITIONS WERE CERTAINLY RIGHT.

SOMETHING WE SEE OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THAT YOU FOCUSED ON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PATH AND THE SEVERITY OF THE STORMS IS SELDOM KNOWN FULLY UNTIL THE LAST MOMENT.

IN FACT HARVEY WENT FROM FROM A CATEGORY 1 TO 4 VERY QUICKLY APPARENTLY TO EVERYONE'S SURPRISE.

HOW COME THAT'S THE CASE WHEN WE MADE SUCH STRIDES WITH TECHNOLOGY IN THE FIELD?

IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK THIS IS WHAT IN ENS SORT OF CAUGHT THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND CERTAINLY OFFICIALS BY SURPRISE LAST YEAR.

ALL THREE HURRICANES RAPIDLY INTENSIFIED.

SO RAPID INTENSEFY INDICATION IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THP PETITION -- IN A SPAN OF ABOUT 24 HOURS FOR EXAMPLE MARIA I THINK WENT WAS THE ONE TO INTENSIFY THE MOST RAPIDLY GOING FROM ESSENTIALLY A TROPICAL STORM TO A MAJOR HURRICANE IN 24 HOURS.

NOW, WHEN THAT HAPPENS LIKE IN THE CASE OF HARVEY, WHEN WHEN A STORM IS CLOSE TO LANDFALL, THAT DOESN'T GIVE OFFICIALS ENOUGH TIME TO -- YOU KNOW, TO TELL PEOPLE TO EITHER EVACUATE OR SHELTER IN PLACE.

IN EITHER SITUATION PEOPLE HAVE TO BE PREPARED.

SO WHAT'S CAUSING THESE STORMS IN SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT GLOBAL WARMING OR CLIMATE CHANGE IS THE SOLE CAUSE OF THESE INCREASING STORMS.

WHAT'S YOUR TAKE?

YOU KNOW, FROM READING ALL THE PAPERS AND VIEWING THE RESEARCH THAT'S NECESSARY TO DO A FILM LIKE THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE CLIMATE IS POINTING TOWARDS THE FACT THAT WE CAN EXPECT NOT NECESSARILY MORE FREQUENT HURRICANES BUT WHEN THE CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT HURRICANES WILL -- WILL BREW UP AND FORM INTO MAJOR HURRICANES, WHICH ARE ONE OF THE MOST DESTRUCTIVIVIVE FORCES ON EARTH.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE NOW -- WE HAVE SORT OF USHERED IN A NEW ERA OF HURRICANE AWARENESS.

AND CERTAINLY FOR PEOPLE LICHAJ IN CARIBBEAN NATIONS AND PUERTO RICOENS IN PARTICULAR, BUT ALSO FOR ANYONE LIMPING ALONG THE COASTLINES WE KNOW THAT THERE IS AND THERE HAS BEEN SEA LEVEL RISE.

WHEN YOU ADD SEA LEVEL RISE INTO HURRICANES MAKING LANDFALL, POTENTIALLY AS STRONGER HURRICANES, THEN YES PEOPLE NEED TO BE MORE PREPARED FOR STORM SURGE.

PREPARATION, I THINK HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH BUILDING CODES AND -- AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD NEW, THEN PEOPLE NEED TO START THINKING ALONG THE COAST ABOUT BUILDING MORE APPROPRIATELY FOR BEING ABLE TO SUSTAIN WIND DAMAGE AND STORM SURGE.

SO REALLY QUICKLY IS THIS THE NEW NORMAL?

I THINK THIS HAS A VERY STRONG CHANCE OF BEING THE NEW NORMAL.

WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT THE SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES WERE LOOKING LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO BE VERY HIGH THIS SEASON.

BUT AT THE LAST MINUTE THEY HAVE STARTED TO SORT OF TREND LOWER.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING THIS YEAR.

OFFICIALS WERE WERE SAYING THEY WERE EXPECTED A LITTLE ABOVE AVERAGE HURRICANE ACTIVITY THIS YEAR.

BUT AT THIS STAGE IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE NORMAL.

SO IT MAY BE QUITE SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR OR WE MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOT MAJOR HURRICANES BUT CERTAINLY SOME HURRICANES.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE DOCUMENTARY.

IT'S VERY INSTRUCTIVE.

THANK YOU.

NOVA EE RICE OF THE SUPERSTORM PREMIERES.

PLEASE CHECKLISTING FOR AIR TIMES.

> THE BROOKLYN FILM FESTIVAL RECENTLILY PREPARED AN OBSERVATIONAL DOCUMENTARY ENTITLED WORKING IN PROTEST.

IT GIVES OF AN INSIDE LOOK AT DEMONSTRATIONS ACROSS AMERICA FROM THE LAST 30 YEARS.

THE SHORT CLIPS ARE COMPILED FIRST HAND BY THE FILM'S DIRECTORS.

TO COPE THE TONE NEUTRAL RATHER THAN USE CONTENT FROM ACTIVISTS WHO MAY HAVE AN AGENDA HERE IS A PREVIEW.

TWO MINUTES TO DISPERSE OR YOU WILL BE ARRESTED.

♪♪ TURN IT AROUND.

SO IF YOUR DAUGHTER BROUGHT HOME A BLACK GUY WHAT WOULD YOU DO.

IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN SHE WOULD KNOW BETTER TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE I DIDN'T RAISE HER THAT WAY.

AND STAND WHEN THEY SHOW UP.

LET'S GO.

UP ON THE SIDEWALK.

JACK RECENTLY SAT DOWN WITH THE FILM'S DIRECTOR, MICHAEL GALINSKI.

> SO LET'S START OFF WITH THE SUBJECT MATTER IF YOU WOULD.

YOU WANTED TO TO TAKE A LOOK AT PROTESTS.

AND YOU STARTED BASICALLY 30 YEARS AGO.

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROTESTS, YOU TO GO TO THE SIXTH AND CIVIL RIGHTS PROTESTS WHY DID YOU PICK THAT DEMARCATION POIBTS.

THAT ONE PICKED ME.

THE KLAN MARKED IN MY HOMETOWN OF CHAPEL HILL.

AND IT SEEMED -- EVEN THOUGH THE KLAN THERE HAS BEEN A SHOOTING TWO YEARS EARLIER IN GREEN BORROWER KILLING SOME PEOPLE.

IT SEEMED IT WAS ON THE WAY OUT.

IT SEEMED LIKE THE LAST KLAN MARCH.

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED WAS I MOVED BACK TO MY HOMETOWN AND I FOUND THE NFRGTS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

SINCE THEN MAYBE TEN YEARS AFTER THAT WE STARTED DOING MORE PROTEST WORK.

AND IT WAS JUST OBSERVING -- PART OF LARGE I DOCUMENTARIES OR JUST LIKE THIS THING IS HAPPENING AND HAS TO BE OBSERVED, KIND OF LIKE OCCUPY.

WE STARTED FILMING A LOT AROUND THEN.

AND THEN KEPT DOING IT.

WHEN I FOUND THE PHOTOGRAPHS I PUT THEM ONLINE AND DID YOU FOE THERE WAS SOUND FROM THE DAY.

WE HAD SOUND AND THEN HAD THE SHORT FILM.

WE HAD THAT WE STARTED TO THINK THERE IS THE THING WE DID IN 2004 REALLY INTERESTING.

IF YOU KIND OF JUMP FROM THAT TO THAT.

WOW WITH THE OCCUPY STUFF WHEN YOU SEE THE RISE OF THE MILITARIZATION OF THE POLICE OF AND THE CRIMINALIZING THE DISSENT.

AND JUST WHAT HAPPENS AT THE EVENTS AND HOW THE MESSAGE GETS OUT OR DOESN'T AND HOW IT GETS PORTRAYED IN THE MEDIA AND HOW IT'S PRESENTED BY ACTIVISTS WE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE IN THE MIDDLE SPACE WHERE YOU ARE OBSERVING IT IN THIS WAY THAT AT THE TIME KEEMS BORING BUT LATER IS JUST REALLY PRESENT.

IT'S INTERESTING YOU SAY WE YOUR WIFE AND YOU WERE THE DIRECTORS HERE.

YES.

AND WE'RE USED TO WHEN WE SEE DO YOU MEANRIES NOT ALL BUT MANY TIMES WE SEE THEM FROM A POINT OF VIEW.

RIGHT.

IN MANY MANY WAYS THEY'RE ADVOCACY PIECES.

RIGHT.

THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE BUT YOU WANTED TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT WHY.

WHOA YOU MAKE ADVOCACY THEN PEOPLE KNOW IT AND THOSE WHO DON'T AGREE ARE GOING TO RESIST.

BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT DOES ADVOCACY.

IT DOESN'T DO WHAT HE WE THINK IS GOING TO DO OR SUPPOSED TO DO.

PART OF MY RESISTANCE TO IT -- AND TO BE CLEAR, THESE SHORTS ARE MUCH MORP FROM KIND OF WHAT YOU WOULD CALL LIBERAL POINT OF VIEW.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE INTENT.

THAT'S JUST WHO I AM.

IT'S GOING TO COME IN MORE BUT THE INTENT IS TO BE JUST PRESENT WITH EVERYBODY'S POSSIBLE.

BUT THE MORE YOU PUT A POINT OF VIEW ON IT THE MORE YOU FIND RESISTANCE.

YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU LIVED THROUGH THE ONE WITH THE K.K.K.

YEAH.

IN YOUR HOMETOWN.

I'M CURIOUS WHETHER WHEN YOU CAME BACK TO LOOK AT IT NOW.

UM-HUM.

THROUGH THE PRISM OF OLDER MICHAEL, EDUCATED MICHAEL, MORE EXPERIENCED MICHAEL, DID YOU SEE IT DIFFERENTLY IN ANY WAY?

YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU KIND OF MAKES THINGS THAT ARE REALLY OBSERVATIONAL I THINK WHAT IT DOES 25 YEARS LATER IS IT REALLY SPARKS A FAWN PRESENT MEMORY.

IT BRINGS YOU BACK TO THAT SPACE.

SOMETIMES IT'S LITERALLY JUST THE MEDIATION OF THE MEDIA.

IT'S BLACK AND WHITE PHOTOGRAPHS.

. AND YOU KIND OF GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME.

THERE IS ASPECTS OF ARE JUST THE TYPE OF MEDIA THAT IT IS.

HOW IT LOOKS LIKE LOOKS.

ALL THESE THINGS ARE TELLS.

THEY TELL US HOW TO FEEL.

BUT DEFINITELY WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT'S FROM THE PAST IT REALLY -- IT SPARKS A DIFFERENT PART OF YOUR BRAIN THAN YOUR PRESENT MEMORY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE VIEWERS WILL TAKE FROM THIS?

WHAT DO YOU HOPE THE VIEWERS TAKE FROM IT.

WHAT I HOPE IS THAT THEY HAVE A BROADER SENSE WHAT HAVE REALLY TAKES PLACE.

BECAUSE SFR A MEDIA PERSPECTIVE WHAT WE TRY TO DO IF YOU ARE THE NEWS MEDIA YOU WANT TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT HAPPENED.

AND IF YOU'RE A A ACTIVIST YOU WANT TO PUSH THE POINT OF VIEW.

BUT FROM MY EXPERIENCE AT BEING AT PROTESTS IT'S CHAOTIC.

IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO SOME OF THE PIECES FEEL THAT WAY.

LIKE YOU'RE NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO -- BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE INTEREST.

AND YOU'RE JUST FOLLOWING AND TRYING TO FIND A LEADER.

AND AND THERE IS THE AMAZING MOMENT WHEN REVEREND BARBER SHOWS UP AT THE NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

HE MARCHES PAST THE CAMERA AND STARTS KNOCKING ON THE WINDOW AND JUST TAKES OVER.

HE IS REALLY AN INCREDIBLE PERSON.

AND HE IS A LEADER.

AND YOU KNOW, HE IS GOING TO SHOW UP AS A GREATER LEADER OVER THE NEXT FIVE OR TEN YEARS PROCESS.

YOU'LL SEE A LOT FROM HIM.

RIGHT THERE IN THAT MOMENT.

WELL IT'S VERY COMPELLING.

A SERIES OF FILMS HERE.

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