TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

Are you safe in your hired car? After reports of sexual assaults in Uber and Lyft cars, New York State Senator Luis Sepulveda went on a crusade to bring an end to that threat to the public and the victims. His victory against both companies and what’s next are ahead. Paid family leave for teachers and all city workers. The policy, hurting the very back bone of our most needed public servants. Meet some of the people struggling with the policy and find out why the city stands by it. As the world prepares to celebrate the marriage of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, one person’s spirit and memory will loom large over the mega event: Harry’s mother, Diana, Princess of Wales. We’re bringing the royal wedding home to New York City and tonight we look at the mother of the groom and her love affair with the island of Manhattan. We take a look back at the Vietnam War, Agent Orange, and its impact 50 years after the Tet Offensive.

Aired on May 18, 2018.

 

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TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS, ARE YOU SAFE IN THAT HIRED CAR?

AFTER REPORTS OF SEXUAL ASSAULTS BY RIDE SHARE DRIVERS.

NEW YORK STATE SENATOR INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO HELP END THE THREAT AND GIVE ASSAULT VICTIMS DUE PROCESS UNDER THE LAW.

HIS STATEMENT ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE JUST AHEAD.

> PAID FAMILY LEAVE FOR TEACHERS AND ALL CITY WORKERS.

GOOD IDEA?

SOME ARGUE THE POLICY IS ACTUALLY HURTING OUR MOST NEEDED PUBLIC SERVANTS.

IN A MOMENT WE MEET SOME OF THE PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH THE POLICY AND FIND OUT WHY THE CITY STANDS BY IT.

> AS THE WORD PREPARES TO CELEBRATE THE MARRIAGE OF PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN MARKLE, THE MEMORY OF ONE SPECIAL PERSON LOOMS LARGE.

HARRY'S MOTHER PRINCESS DIANA.

TONIGHT, DIANA'S BIOGRAPHER JOINS US.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS METROFOCUS STARTS RIGHT NOW.

ANNOUNCER: THIS IS METROFOCUS WITH RAFAEL PI RAMAN, JACK FORD AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY --

ANNOUNCER: CORPORATE FUNDING FOR METROFOCUS WAS PROVIDED BY MUTUAL OF AMERICA, YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY AND BY PSE&G, SERVING CUSTOMERS, STRENGTHENING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND INVESTING IN THE FUTURE.

> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO METROFOCUS I'M RAFAEL PI RAMAN.

HE BEGIN WITH BIG CHANGES HOW RIDE SHARE COMPANIES HANDLING CLAIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AGAINST THEM.

BOTH RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THEY WILL NOW ALLOW VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT TO TAKE CASES TO COURT, CHAENGING A PREVIOUS POLICY THAT FORCED PASSENGERS TO PURSUE CLAIMS THROUGH AN INTERNAL ARBITRATION SYSTEM.

THE CHANGE IN POLICY CAME TWO WEEKS AFTER A DAMNING CNN REPORT THAT FOUND AT LEAST 103 DRIVERS IN THE U.S. HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF SEXUALLY ASSAULTING OR ABUSING PASSENGERS IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

IN RESPONSE TO THE REPORT NEW YORK STATE LAWMAKERS IMMEDIATELY INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO BAN ALL SHARE RIDE SHARING FROM FORCING ALLEGED VICTIMS INTO ARBITRATION AS OPPOSED TO THE COURTS.

THE VERY CHANGE THAT USUAL AND LIFT NOW PUT IN PLACE.

A STATE SENATOR WHO SBRUSED THAT LEGISLATION EARLIER THIS MONTH SAYS THE CHANGES DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH AND THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG WHEN IT COMES TO CORPORATE ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE PART OF UBERS AND COMPANIES LIKE IT.

THE SENATOR JOINS US NOW.

WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM ONCE AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

SO, YOU KNOW AS I SAID IN THE SBRUKS, THE CNN -- THE DAMNING CNN REPORT GAVE US THE NATIONAL FIGURES OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

DO WE KNOW HOW SERIOUS THE PROBLEM HERE IS NEW YORK STATE AND NEW YORK CITY?

DO WE HAVE STATISTICS ABOUT THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE PRECISE STATISTICS WITH YOU WE CAN ASSUME BECAUSE THE CITY IS A PLACE WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE USE USUAL THAT MANY OF THE REPORTED CASES ACTUALLY HAPPEN HERE IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK.

WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT IT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM HERE IN THE CITY.

SO THE CHANGES THAT YOU CALL FOR AND -- I MEAN YOU HAVE TWO BILLS RIGHT -- THE CHANGES YOU CALL FOR IN AT LEAST ONE OF THE BILLS USUAL AND LIFT PUT INTO PLACE.

BUT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THE LEGISLATION.

AS A GENERAL PREMISE I'M COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO ARBITRATION CLAUSES.

THEY PUT THOSE CLAUSES IN TO BENEFIT THEM.

IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE WE PUSH LEGISLATION TO BAIER THE CLAUSES DOESN'T MEAN THAT TOMORROW EVEN THOUGH LIFT AND USUAL AGREED NO LONGER WILL THE ARBITRATION CLAUSES APPLY WHEN THERE IS A SEXUAL ASSAULT BY ONE OF THEIR DRIVERS.

IT DOESN'T MEAN TOMORROW THEY CAN'T SAY WE'RE GOING TO REINSTATE THE ARBITRATION CLAUSE.

WE HAVE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THROUGH THE LEGISLATION THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPTION.

YES WE ARE HAPPY THEY'VE TAKEN THE STEPS.

BUT THE ARBITRATION CLAUSES CAN STILL APPLY WITH OTHER PROBLEMS, FOR EXAMPLE, DISCRIMINATION.

RIGHT.

ANY TYPE OF INJURY YOU MAY HAVE IN THE VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT -- IT'S STILL NOT ALL ENCOMPASSING.

YOUR LEGISLATION CALLS FOR AN END TO INCLUDING THAT ARBITRATION POLICY WITHIN ANY AGREEMENT REGARDLESS OF THE ISSUE.

NO WE STARTED FIRST WITH THE ISSUE OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT THAT'S MORE IMMEDIATE.

RIGHT.

THOSE HAVE SEEN THE REPORT CAN SEE HOW DANGEROUS THAT IS.

THE LEGISLATION STARTED WITH THAT.

BUT THE INTENT IS TO MAKE IT MORE ENCOMPASSING.

I NEVER READ THE AGREEMENTS.

NOBODY DOES.

EVEN IF YOU READ IT YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT.

BUT I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I FOUND OUT.

I HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS, THE ONE IN USUALER 6 THOUSANDWARDS WITHIN THOSE SIX THOUSAND WORDS ONLY ABOUT A THOUSAND APPLY TO THE ARBITRATION PROCESS.

I'VE WITHIN A PRACTICING ATTORNEY FOR 27 YEARS.

I USE USUAL.

I'VE NEVER READ THE CLAUSES.

AND SO THOSE LAY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT PRACTICE LAW OR UNDERSTAND THE LAW IT'S MORE EGREGIOUS.

TELL US ABOUT THE SECOND BILL.

THAT'S THE POP UP BILL.

THE INDIVIDUALS THE FIRST TIME THEY DOWNLOAD THE APPS OR IN A COUPLE OF TIMES THERE AFTER A POP-UP WILL COME UP SAYING DO YOU REALIZE THERE ARE ARBITRATION CLAUSES THAT YOU GIVE UP LEGAL RIGHTS AND WE WANT THE CONSUMER TO BE AWARE OF IT WHEN YOU USE THE APPS AND RIDE SHARING THAT ESSENTIALLY YOU MAY BE SUBJECTED TO A NON-TRADITIONAL TRIBUNAL IF YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF INJURY OR ANY SORT OF ACTION THAT YOU WANT TO BRING AGAINST THE RIDE SHARING COMPANY.

YOU ARE ALSO CALLING FOR THE RIDE HAILING COMPANIES TO SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT CRIMES COMMITTED BY DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS.

CORRECT.

AND SHARE IT WITH POLICE.

THAT'S NOT HAPPENING NOW.

IT'S NOT HAPPENING NOW AND IT'S A PROBLEM.

ONE OF THE BY PRODUCTS OF THE LEGISLATION IS THAT IT WILL IT WILL COMPEL THE COMPANIES TO BE MORE SELECTIVE ABOUT THE DRIVERS THEY HIRE OR CONTRACT WITH WHEN PEOPLE ARE USING THE RIDE SHARING.

THE COMPANIES CAN BE SORT OF SOMEWHAT RELATIVELY INDIFFERENT AS TO WHO THEY'RE CONTRACTING WITH.

NOW IT'S WITH THIS WITH PEOPLE KNOWING ALL THE INFORMATION.

-- SUNLIGHT IS THE BEST DISINFECTANT.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IF DRIVERS HAVE INCIDENCE OF VIOLENCE.

WE WANT INDIVIDUALS TO KNOW THE COMPANY THAT YOU CONTRACT WITH FOR RIDE SHARING HAS A PROBLEM WITH CRIME.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT SFLA THIS ISSUE AS WE MAKE CLEAR, I THINK, IS REALLY SERIOUS AND YOUR LEGISLATION IS VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY I SIDE FROM THE PARTICULAR ISSUES THERE IS AND MUST BY ELECTED OFFICIALS AGAINST THE RIDE SHARING COMPANIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE -- BECAUSE THE TAX Y INDUSTRY WHICH SUPPORTS A LOT OF ELECTED OFFICIALS PARTICULARLY IN NEW YORK ARE REELING BECAUSE OF THE COMPETITION THAT USUAL LIFT AND COMPANIES LIKE THAT GIVE THEM AND THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS HATE THEM ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.

WHAT DO YOU SAY.

THIS LEGISLATOR NEVER RECEIVED ANY PENNY FROM ANY TAX Y COMPANY.

YOU HEARD THAT SAID.

YOU CAN HEAR THAT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE IN THIS SITUATION.

I'VE RECEIVED EMAILS AND TEXTS ABOUT HOW I CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND ESSENTIALLY THIS IS A SAFETY CONCERN.

AND IF YOU WANT -- IF PEOPLE WANT TO IMPLY SOMEHOW THAT THE TRADITIONAL TAX Y COMPANIES ARE PUSHING THIS, I'VE HAD NOT A SINGLE CONVERSATION WITH ANY OF THE COMPANIES, ANY TAX Y DRIVER THAT'S NOT PART OF THE RIDE SHARING PROGRAM.

THIS REALLY EVOLVED AS A RESULT OFWAY WE SAW ON CNN AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION AND RESEARCH WE'VE DONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

> I'M NIGH EEM DOUGLAS FOR METROFOCUS.

THERE COULD BE A SHOWDOWN BREWING BETWEEN THE UNITED FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

NOW THE UFC'S DEMANDS FOR PAID FAMILY TIME OFF CONTINUES TO GROW.

NOW THE UFC MEMBERS ALONG WITH CITY WORKERS DON'T HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE FOR PAID FAMILY TIME OFF.

NOW, A PETITION STARTED ON CHANGE.ORG BY A NEW YORK CITY TEACHER CONTINUES TO GAIN SUPPORT WITH THOUSANDS OF SIGNATURES.

SUPPORTERS INCLUDING MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL HELD A RALLY TO DRUM UP AWARENESS ABOUT THE ISSUE SAYING THE MAYOR SHOULD KEEP HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISE TO GIVE THE CITY WORKERS PAID FAMILY LEAVE.

WE SHOW UP EVERY DAY AND TAKE CARE OF OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN WHICH WE DO WITH LOTS OF LOVE AND CARE.

WE WOULD JUST LIKE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS FOR OUR OWN ZBLIERN NEW YORK CITY TEACHERS SAY THE TIME HAS COME FOR THEM TO HAVE PAID FAMILY TIME OFF.

AND THEY RALLY ON THE STEPS OF CITY HALL AND TEACHERS SHARED THE STORIES OF FRIST BECAUSE THERE IS NO PLAN IN PLACE FOR TEACHERS TRYING TO START A FAMILY.

I UNEXPECTED HAD MY SON AT 25 WEEKS GESTATION, HE WAS TWO POUNDS, 13 INCHES.

I HAD TO MAKE A VERY HEART WRENCHING AND CRITICAL DECISION TO GO BACK TO THE CLASSROOM, JUST THREE WEEKS AFTER I HAD MY SON.

I HAD TO DO THIS BECAUSE I HAD TO SAVE MY TIME FOR WHEN MY CRITICALLY SICK SON WOULD BE HOME.

SAVING OR, QUOTE BANKING TIME IS WHAT TEACHERS SAY THEY ARE FORCED TO DO, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE TO STOCK UP SICK TIME FOR YEARS IN MANY CASES AND SOMETIMES BANKING TIME IS NOT ENOUGH.

I'VE BEEN OFF PAYROLL THE LAST EIGHT WEEKS TO BE HOME TO TAKE CARE OF ZOE.

SHE WAS DIAGNOSEWOOD A MILK PROTEIN INTOLERANCE AND HAD TO BE PUT ON VERY SPECIAL FORMULA.

I NEEDED MORE TIME WITH HER.

I NEEDED TO BE HOME WITH HER.

YOU KNOW, BEFORE I DELIVERED I HORDED EVERY SINGLE SICK DAY THAT I COULD.

I WORKED RIGHT UP UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE MY C-SECTION JUST SO I COULD HAVE AS MANY DAYS AS I COULD TO SPEND WITH ZOE ON PAYROLL.

BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT WASN'T ENOUGH.

AND MY FAMILY AND I WE MADE THE DIFFICULT FINANCIAL DECISION FOR ME TO GO OFF PAYROLL SO THAT I CAN BE AT OEM TO TAKE CARE OF ZOE.

THIS THIS TEACHER FROM STATEN ISLAND MANAGED TO GET BY USING SAVINGS SHE PUT ASIDE AND FROM HELP FROM HER FAMILY.

SHE IS ONE OF THOUSANDS OF CITY WORKERS HAVING TO MAKE THE DECISION BETWEEN RUSHING BACK TO WORK AFTER HAVING A CHILD.

THERE ARE EDUCATORS THAT WERE REQUIRED AND FORCED TO ACCRUE WHAT'S CALLED SICK DAYS IN THEIR SICK DAYS BANK JUST TO RAISE THEIR FAMILY.

LET'S BE CLEAR.

RAISING A FAMILY IN NEW YORK CITY IS NOT A SICKNESS.

WHAT'S SICK IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE EXISTING POLICY TO SUPPORT FAMILIES.

CITY COUNCILMEMBER MARK SCHRAGER IS A FORMER HISTORY TEACHER AND HAS BEEN LEADING THE CARTRIDGE TO HAVE PAID PARENTAL LEAVE STANDARD FOR TEACHERS AND ALL CITY WORKERS.

THE POLICY BASICALLY PUNISHES PEOPLE TO RAISE FAMILIES.

AND THERE IS NO POLICY WHATSOEVER IF YOU DOPT A CHILD.

THERE IS NO POLICY IF YOU FOSTER A CHILD.

THERE IS NO POLICY FOR NEW DADS.

AND THEN YOU LOOK AROUND AND YOU SEE THAT WAL-MART, NOT A FRIEND OF LABOR, HAS AS BETTER PAID PARENTAL LEAVE POLICY THAN THE CITY OF NEW YORK?

THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

WAL-MART IS ONE OF MANY ON A GROWING LIST OF COMPANIES OFFERING PARENTAL LEAVE FOR EMPLOYEES.

ACCORDING TO A REPORT BY 'THE NEW YORK TIMES,' IBM OFFERED SALARIED WORKERS PAID PARENTAL LEAVE FOR BIRTH MOTHERS AND 12 WEEKS FOR OTHER PARENTS.

STARBUCKS OFFERS 18 WEEKS TO BIRTH MOTHERS AND 12 TO OTHER PARENTS.

AS THE COUNCILMEMBER MECHANICSED WAL-MART HAS 16 WEEKS OFF FOR BIRTH MOTHERS AND SIX WEEKS OFF FOR OTHER PARENTS.

BACK IN 2016 THE MAYOR SIGNED AN OR MANDATING PARENTAL LEAVE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES BUT ONLY COVERING 20,000 MANAGERIAL EMPLOYEES AND NOT THE WORKERS MAKING UP THE MAJORITY OF CITY PAYROLL.

BUT EVEN THAT MOVE HAS DETRACT SFWLEER THEY SAID WE'RE GIVING YOU PAID PARENTAL LEAVE AND THEN SAID WE'RE TAKING AWAY VACATION DAYS AND RAISE.

THE CITY LITERALLY IS MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THAT'S WHAT IT COST THE PEOPLE ON PAID PARENTAL LEAVE VERSUS WHAT THEY RECOUPED IN THE CITY TOOK WAY.

THE UNITED FRAGS OF TEACHER MY KNOWLEDGE MAR GRAPH SAYS HE IS WORKING TO PUT THE BRAKES ONNING THIS SIGNED BY THE CITY LIKE WHAT WAS IN 201637 HE SAYS WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE HAVE AN ACROSS THE BOARD STANDARD.

BUT DURING A THREE-HOUR SESSION IN FRONT OF THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE BOB LEND, COMMISSIONER FOR LABOR RELATIONS IT'S SOMETHING TO BE WORKED OUT THROUGH CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH EACH UNION.

THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PARTICULAR BENEFIT, THAT MUST BE LEFT TO THE PARTIES TO COME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

AND I HAVE TO SAY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE 144 BURGERENING UNITS IS EVIDENCE OF VERY, VERY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AMONG DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES.

AND THE NATURE OF A BENEFIT COULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT FROM ONE GROUP TO ANOTHER.

FROM ONE AGENCY TO ANOTHER.

ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING WITH A MAGNIFIED FOCUS ON TEACHERS AND THEIR TREATMENT AS STRIKES ARE POPPING UP ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH TEACHERS DEMANDING BETTER PAY AND WORKING CONDITIONS.

NOW AS FOR THE UFC AND THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY, THINGS WILL CERTAINLY HEAT UP AS THE YEARS GOES ON AND CERTAINLY BE A BUSY TIME FOR THE CITY'S LABOR DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S BECAUSE MOST OF THE CITY'S CONTRACTS WITH UNIONS EXPIRES AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

> THERE IS NO WEDDING LIKE A ROYAL WEDDING.

AND PBS IS THE PLACE TO SEE IT.

JOIN THE ROYAL WEDDING WIND CHILL, A WEEK OF SPECIAL PROGRAMMING LEADING UP TO THE CEREMONY WITH HOST MEREDITH VEERA REPORTING FROM LONDON.

THEN YOU ARE COVERAGELY INVITED TO WINDSOR CASTLE FOR THE ROYAL WEDDING OF PRINCE HARRY AND AMERICAN MEGHAN MARKLE.

DON'T MISS THE WEDDING WATCH.

> AS THE WORLD WAITS TO WATCH PRINCE HARRY MARRY MEGHAN MARKLE TOMORROW THE ONE PERSON NOT IN ATTENDANCE BUT CERTAINLY ON EVERYONE'S MIND PRINCESS DIANA HARRY'S HOME AND KNOWN AS THE PEOPLE'S PRINCESS.

BUT WHAT GETS LOST IN THE MEDIA IS THAT THE PEOPLE'S PRINCESS FOUND ESCAPE HERE IN MANHATTAN.

SHE HELD SECRET MEETINGS AT THE CARLISLE HOTEL DINED LIVED AND LAUGHED ALL OVER THE CITY.

SHE WAS INFATUATED WITH NEW YORK AND WE WERE INFATUATED WITH HER.

JOINING US TO TAKE TO PRINCESS DIANA NEW YORK WHAT SHE LOVED SO MUCH ABOUT OUR CITY IS ROYAL EXPERT CHRISTOPHER ANDERSEN AUTHOR OF THE DAY DIANA DIED.

NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH US.

THE FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU IS THIS, WHAT WAS IT GENERALLY ABOUT NEW YORK CITY THAT ATTRACTED DIANA TO HERE?

WELL TWO THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL SHE LOVED AMERICA IN GENERAL.

SHE FELT MORE -- SHE HAD MORE IN COMMON IN MANY WAYS WITH AMERICA.

MORE OUTGOING AND OUTSPOKEN.

SHE FELT LIKE MANY CELEBRITIES ODDLY-FREE IN THE STREETS OF NEW YORK.

I THINK NEW YORK WAS ONE PLACE WHERE MANY MANY VERY FAMOUS FEEL THEY CAN MOVE ABOUT WITH EASE AND RATHER UNENCUMBERED FRANKLY COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES IN THE WORLD.

CERTAINLY LONDON WHERE THE PAPARAZZI WERE AT HER CONSTANTLY CHASING HER DOWN THE STRETS.

SHE HAD NO PRIVATE LIFE AT ALL.

BUT HERE SHE WAS ABLE TO MOVE ABOUT WITH SOME DEGREE OF FREEDOM.

WAS SHE ABLE TO DO THAT, GO TO RESTAURANTS, THEATER, ENGAGE IN THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR HER TO DO IN LONDON?

WELL, IT DID GET TRICKY OCCASIONALLY ESPECIALLY IF SHE WAS WITH ANOTHER FAMOUS PERSON.

FOR EXAMPLE WHEN SHE MET JOHN F KENNEDY JR. AT THE CARLISLE HOTEL -- AGAIN THAT WAS A HANGOUT FOR THE KENNEDYS AND SHE KNEW IT.

IN THE SUMMER OF 1995 THEY KNEW -- JFK JR. KNEW THAT THE COMBINATION OF THE TWO OF THEM WOULD MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM TO GET TOGETHER.

ONE THING HE ALSO KNEW BEING A KENNEDY IS THAT THE MADISON AVENUE ENTRANCE TO THE CARLISLE IS ONE THAT IS SELDOM COVERED BY THE PAPARAZZI.

THEY'RE ALWAYS WAITING ON EAST 76th STREET AROUND THE CORNER.

THEY COULD THEY COULD ACTUALLY IRONICALLY EACH OF THEM WALK FREELY INTO THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON MADISON AVENUE OF THE CARLISLE HOTEL AND HAVE THEIR MEETING WHICH THEY HAD A AS HAS BEEN MUCH DISCUSSED OVER THE YEARS.

DO WE KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS ANYTHING MORE THAN A FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN DINE ARE DIANA AND JFK JR.? DID IT EVER BLOSSOM INTO ROMANCE.

I BELIEVE IT DID.

IT WAS BRIEF.

HE TOLD HIS FRIENDS THAT HE WAS CHARMED BY HER.

HE TALKED ABOUT HER FAMOUS DOWNWARD GLANCE, THE SHY DILOOK.

HE SAID SHE WAS SURPRISINGLY DEMOORE.

THERE HAS BEEN SPANDEX BUT I BELIEVE THEY HAD A BRIEF ENCOUNTER.

SHE TOLD FRIENDS IN LONDON THAT SHE HAD A CRUSH ON JFK JR.

AND SHE ALSO FELT IN A BROADER SENSE SHE IDENTIFIED WITH THE KENNEDYS, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE ASKED IF A FRIEND IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO ME DO YOU THINK THEY'LL THINK OF ME AS JACKIE KENNEDY.

AT THE TIME OF DIANA'S DEATH I WAS HOSTING THE NBC WEEKEND TODAY SHOW AND WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST NEW YORKS TO ANNOUNCE HER DEATH.

WE WERE ON 7:00 A.M. IN THE MORPG SHE DIED A FEW LI HOURS BEFORE THAT.

I WAS STRUCK BY THE FACT THAT PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE STUDIO AND THE VIEWERS SEEMED TO HAVE THIS PROFOUND SENSE OF DESPAIR, PROFOUND SENSE OF LOSS, ALMOST WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM SOMEBODY WHO LOST A LOVED ONE OR CLOSE FRIEND.

WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WAS THEN?

AND WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S CONTINUED TODAY 20 YEARS LATER.

WELL FOR 17 YEARS SHE WAS THE CENTER OF THE WORLD STAGE.

WE WATCHED HER, YOU KNOW, GROW FROM THIS 19-YEAR-OLD INNOCENT INTO A REAL POWERHOUSE.

SHE WAS MORE THAN JUST A LARGER LAN THAN LIFE FIGURE SHE WAS A FORCE OF NATURE IF YOU WILL.

WE FELT SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE FAMILY IN THAT SENSE.

AND NO ONE WAS PREPARED FOR THE WAY IN WHICH SHE DIED, AND THE FACT THAT SHE LEFT BEHIND A 15-YEAR-OLD AND 13-YEAR-OLD, THE TWO MARVELLOUS SONS WE GREW TO KNOW AND STILL FEEL WE DO.

WE WERE ALL STUNNED.

STUNNED IN THE WAY THAT ONE GENERATION -- THEY WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY HEARD ABOUT PEARL HARBOR OR ANOTHER GENERATION HEARING ABOUT JFK'S ASSASSINATION OR 9/11.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS.

AND IT'S UNDEFINABLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY -- IN TERMS OF HER PERSONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS MAYBE SHE WASN'T THE MOST ACCOMPLISHED HUMAN BEING IN THE WORLD.

BUT SHE DID TOUCH SOMETHING I THINK IN TENS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER HER WEDDING WAS VIEWED BY 750 MILLION PEOPLE, THE ROYAL WEDDING YOU'D EXPECT THAT.

BUT THE FUNERAL WAS WITNESSED BY 2.5 BILLION PEOPLE ON TELEVISION.

ONE OF THE MOST WATCHED EVENTS IN THE WORLD.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT A HOLD SHE HAD ON THE IMAGINATION OF THIS PEOPLE ACROSS THE PLANET.

CHRISTOPHER ANDERSEN, YOUR BOOK, THE DAY DIANA DIED IS A MARVELLOUS LOOK AT THAT.

THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS WITH IT.

I APPRECIATE IT THANK YOU SO MUCH JACK.

YOU BE WELL.

> WE WISH THE BRIDE AND GROOM ALL THE BEST AND PAY HOMAGE TO THE MOTHER OF THE GROOM WHO WE ARE SURE IS SMILING DOWN FROM ABOVE.

> AGENT ORANGE, WIDELY USED BY AMERICAN FORCES DO YOU AGREE THE VIETNAM WAR TO DEFOLIATE FORESTS AND DESTROY CROPS.

BUT LONG AFTER THE WAR'S ENTHE TRAGIC EFFECTS REMAIN.

IN ADDITION TO ENDURING DAMAGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT, DIOXIN, THE TOXIC SUBSTANCE IN AGENT ORANGE CONTINUES TO IMPACT THE LIVES OF THOUSANDS OF VIETNAM VETERANS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VIETNAMESE PEOPLE.

IN FACT 14 DIFFERENT DISEASES HAVE RESULTED FROM THE EXPOSURE TO DIOXIN, INCLUDING SEVERAL TYPES OF CANCER.

IT HAS ALSO BEEN LINKED TO BIRTH DEFECTS.

BUT THE STORY DOESN'T END THERE.

OVER THE LAST DECADE SERIOUS EFFORTS HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN BY BOTH THE AMERICAN AND VIETNAMESE GOVERNMENTS TO STEM THE TIDE OF THE DEVASTATING LEGACY.

JOINING US NOW WITH THE LATEST ON THE 70s CHARLES BAILEY, THE CO-AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK, FROM ENEMIES TO PRNTS, VIETNAM, THE U.S. AND AGENT ORANGE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY.

THANK YOU.

NOW CHARLES, BEFORE WE GET TO THE SUBJECT, TELL US QUICKLY WHY YOU DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE ISSUE OF AGENT ORANGE.

I WENT TO VIETNAM IN 1997 TO HEAD THE FORD FOUNDATION PROGRAM THERE.

AND AFTER A SHORT WHILE I STUMBLED INTO THIS SUBJECT.

I DECIDED -- I DISCOVERED NO ONE ELSE WAS WORKING ON IT.

I DECIDED TO SEE WHAT I COULD DO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT IS AGENT ORANGE/DIOXIN?

AND WHY DID THE U.S. MILITARY DECIDE TO USE IT IN VIETNAM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THE U.S. MILITARY SPRAYED IT OVER A LARGE AREA OF SOUTHERN VIETNAM, PARTICULARLY REMOTE RURAL AREAS.

THE PURPOSE WAS TO DEFOLIATE TREES AND DESTROY FOOD CROPS AND DENY COVER AND FOOD TO THE NEM.

AS I SAID IN THE INTRODUCTION, THOUSANDS OF VET NAM VETERANS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VIETNAMESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE LINGERING EFFECTS OF DIOXIN.

DO WE HAVE A CLEAR SENSE WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE AND HOW EXACTLY HAVE THESE AMERICANS AND VIETNAMESE BEEN AFFECTED.

WE HAVE SOME GENERAL IDEA OF THE NUMBERS IT IMPACTED.

FIRST IN VIETNAM THERE AS YOU SAY THERE ARE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS WHO ARE LIVING WITH -- SEVERELY DISABLED AND IT'S LINKED TO EXPOSURE OF A PARENT OR GRANDPARENT TO DIOXIN.

IN THE U.S. WE KNOW ONLY ABOUT THE AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO WERE THERE AND LATER DEVELOPED ILLNESSES AND APPLIED FOR DISABILITY ASSISTANCE FOR ONE OF A NUMBER OF DISEASES.

IN 2015 THE V.A. PAID ABOUT $24 BILLION IN DISABILITY COMPENSATION TO ABOUT 1.5 MILLION OF THESE PEOPLE WHO SERVE OUR COUNTRY DURING THE VIETNAM ERA.

ABOUT 40% OF THOSE WERE AGENT ORANGE RELATED CASES.

NOW YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK THAT THE USE OF AGENT ORANGE IN VIETNAM BY MILITARY FORCES WAS KIND OF A TABOO SUBJECT FROM THE END OF THE WAR IN '75 TO 2006.

WHY WAS IT TABOO.

WELL FOR THE FIRST 20 YEARS THERE WERE NO DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS.

AND WHEN THE TWO COUNTRIES BEGAN TO NEGOTIATE DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS.

THE VIETNAMESE RAISED THIS AND THE U.S. SAID WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT.

THE AMERICAN DIPLOMATS POSTED TO VIETNAM IN THE LATE '90s WERE TOLD NOT TO USE THE PHRASE AGENT ORANGE.

IT WAS REALLY A THIRD RAIL SUBJECT.

YOU TOUCH IT YOU'RE DEAD.

. THE U.S. I THINK FELT THAT THERE MIGHT BE QUESTIONS OF LEGAL LIABILITY AND TO THIS DAY THE STATE DEPARTMENT DENIES THAT THERE IS ANY LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY TO RESPOND TO AGENT ORANGE IN VIETNAM.

AND ALSO QUESTIONS THE SCIENCE OF CAUSALITY.

WE VIETNAMESE CONTINUE TO RAISE THE SUBJECT.

BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE TRADE ACCESS WITH THE U.S.

AND SO FINALLY IT WENT ON AND WENT ON FOR A LOG IN TIME.

BUT SOMETHING CHANGED IN 2006 AS RECORDS TO THE UNITED STATES.

WHAT CHANGED?

WELL WITH THE PROGRESS OF TIME AND GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER AND WITH THE GROWTH OF TRADE AND THE MUTUAL CONCERNS ABOUT REGIONAL SECURITY, THE CLIMATE FOR DISCUSSING REALLY DIFFICULT TOPICS IMPROVED, AND MORE IT PARTICULARLY A STUDY THAT I FUNDED THROUGH THE FORD FOUNDATION IN 2003 ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED WHERE THE DIOXIN -- WHERE THE REMAINING DIOXIN RESIDUES WERE.

WE CALLED THEM DIOXIN HOT SPOTS.

AND THIS PROVIDED THE SENSE OF RELIEF IN A SENSE.

BECAUSE IT BECAME A KNOWABLE, FOCUSABLE PROBLEM THAT THE TWO COUNTRIES COULD GET TOGETHER.

AND SO WHEN PRESIDENT BUSH VISITED VIETNAM IN 2006 HE AGREED TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA AND A JOINT STATEMENT WAS AS YOUED.

FOR THE FIRST TIME BOTH COUNTRIES AGREED TO WORK TOGETHER TO KILLEEN UP THE DIOXIN.

SINCE 2006 THE UNITED STATES HAS ACTUALLY INVESTED MONEY IN CLEANING UP DIOXIN.

WHAT IS LEFT TO DO?

WELL, THANKS TO SENATOR PATRICK LEAHY AND THE U.S.

CONGRESS APPROPRIATED A SMALL AND INCREASING ANNUAL SUMS BEGINNING IN 2007 FOR CLEANUP TO HELP PEOPLE WITH SEVERE DISABILITIES.

TEN YEARS HAVE GONE BY AND THE CONGRESS IS APPROPRIATED ABOUT $230 MILLION FOR THESE TWO PURPOSES.

I MANAGED TO RAISE ABOUT $30 MILLION FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.

SO WE'RE ABOUT AT THE HALFWAY POINT.

I WOULD SAY ANOTHER TEN YEARS TO COMPLETE THE CLEANUP OF DIOXIN AS A FORMER U.S. MILITARY BASE NORTH OF HO CHI MINH CITY AND TO REALLY DEVELOP SOCIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FOR THE SEVERELY DISABLED.

CHARLES, WE ARE ALL GLAD TO HEAR THAT AT LEAST THE PROCESS HAS BEGUN.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

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