TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

Now that one of Governor Cuomo’s former top aides has been found guilty of corruption, we explore the dark underbelly of Albany politics and the impact of the verdict on the Governor’s reputation and future political ambitions. Jennifer Rodgers, executive director of the Center for the Advancement of Public Integrity at Columbia Law School and former federal prosecutor, joins us with an analysis. Students and teachers here in New York and around the country left their classrooms for 17 minutes to honor the 17 individuals who were killed last month in the Parkland, Florida school massacre. The walk will serve as both a memorial and protest action, calling for immediate change to our nation’s gun control laws. We were on the scene to capture New York’s demonstrations, capturing the outrage, fear and frustration. Did Mayor de Blasio turn a deaf ear to student’s concerns about guns violence and safety in schools at a recent town hall? You be the judge. This is something you’ll want to see as we listen in. It’s New York Magazine’s 50th anniversary and they want to celebrate with you. David Haskell, an editor at the publication, joins us to discuss the invitation.

Aired on March 14, 2018.

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON 'METROFOCUS,' THE FALLOUT AFTER THE VERDICT.

NOW THAT ONE OF GOVERNOR CUOMO'S FORMER TOP AIDES HAS BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF CORRUPTION, A LOOK AT THE UNDERBELLY OF ALBANY POLITICS AND THE TAINT LEFT ON THE GOVERNOR.

> 17 MINUTES FOR THE 17 FALLEN.

STUDENTS HERE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY, LEFT THEIR CLASSES FOR 17 MINUTES TO HONOR THE 17 VICTIMS OF THE PARKLAND, FLORIDA SCHOOL MASSACRE.

THEIR MISSION, AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE OUR NATION'S GUN LAWS.

WE WERE ON THE SCENE TO WITNESS THEIR ANGER AND TO HEAR THEIR CALL FOR GUN SAFETY.

WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE.

> THEN DID MAYOR DE BLASIO TURN A DEAF EAR TO STUDENTS CONCERNS ABOUT GUNS AT A RECENT TOWN HALL MEETING?

YOU BE THE JUDGE.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, COULD YOU FIRST SPEAK TO WHAT SHE WAS ASKING.

I'M GOING TO GET TO IT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

WE'LL LISTEN IN.

> A NEW YORK MAGAZINE TURNS 50 AND THEY WANT TO CELEBRATE THAT GOLDEN ANNIVERSARY WITH YOU, FIND OUT HOW.

> ALL THAT AND MORE AS 'METROFOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

> THIS IS 'METROFOCUS,' WITH RAFAEL P. RAMON, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANNIGAN.

FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY --

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AND BY PSE&G, SERVING CUSTOMERS, STRENGTHENING THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND INVESTING IN THE FUTURE.

> MR. PERCOCO, ARE YOU DISPINTED?

YES, I AM, I AM DISAPPOINTED, BUT AS BARRY SAID, WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO OUR OPTIONS AND MOVE FORWARD.

I'M THANKFUL TO MY WONDERFUL LEGAL TEAM, AND MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO HAVE STOOD BY ME DURING THIS PROCESS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THEM ALL STANDING BY ME AS WE GO FORWARD.

IT'S THE DAY AFTER THE FORMER GOVERNOR'S TOP AID, YES SEVERE PERCOCO WAS FOUND GUILTY ON TWO PAY TO PLAY SCAMS.

HE NOW FACES 50 YEARS IN PRISON.

PERCOCO'S SENTENCING IS IN JUNE.

AFTER THE VERDICT, THE GOVERNOR RELEASED A STATEMENT SAYING, QUOTE, THE VERDICT DEMONSTRATED THAT THESE IDEALS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED BY SOMEONE I KNEW FOR A LISTEN TIME, THAT IS PERSONALLY PAINFUL.

HE ADDED, WE MUST LEARN FROM WHAT HAPPENED AND PUT ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO SECURE THE PUBLIC TRUST.

ANYTHING LESS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

BUT QUESTIONS REMAIN.

CAN PERCOCO WIN AN APPEAL?

WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT THE POLITICAL CULTURE IN ALBANY POLITICS AND WHAT DOES PERCOCO'S CONVICTION MEAN FOR EVERYONE WHO HAD TIES TO HIM, INCLUDING AN INCUMBENT GOVERNOR WITH POSSIBLE HIGHER POLITICAL ASPIRATIONS.

FOR ANSWERS, 'METROFOCUS' CO-HOST JENNA PLAN IS STANDING BY TO TALK TO FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR JENNIFER ROGERS.

SO, FIRST, JENNIFER, LET'S START AT THE BEGINNING, WHAT WAS JOE PERCOCO FOUND GUILTY OF?

HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF THREE COUNTS AND THEY WERE BASICALLY TWO DIFFERENT PAY FOR PLAY SCHEMES.

AND ONE INVOLVED STATE FAVORS, HE WAS TAKING MONEY PERSONALLY FOR DOING STATE ACTION.

ONE HAD TO TWO WITH AN ENERGY COMPANY AND A CONTRACT THEY WANTED.

THE OTHER WAS A SCHEME INVOLVING REAL ESTATE WITH SOME DEVELOPERS FROM SYRACUSE, BUT IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES HE'S TRADING MONEY TO HIM FOR GOVERNMENTAL ACTION.

AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS ALSO A SPLIT DECISION FROM THE JURY, WHAT WAS HE NOT CONVICTED OF?

HE WASN'T CONVICTED OF THE TWO EXTORTION COUNT.

HE WAS CONVICTED OF FRAUD, AND ONE BRIBELY SOLICITATION ACCOUNT.

HE WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY OF ANOTHER SOLICITATION ACCOUNT BUT THEY ALL WERE ABOUT THE SAME CONDUCT, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT PUZZLING WHY THE JURY CONVICTED ON ONE SIDE BUT NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

ALSO I WANT DO SAY THAT JOE PERCOCO WASN'T THE ONLY PERSON ON TRIAL IN THIS CASE, WHO ELSE WAS THERE?

THERE WAS THREE OTHER DEFENDANTS, ONE EXECUTIVE FROM THE ENERGY COMPANY, AND TWO REAL ESTATE EXECUTIVES FROM THE SYRACUSE REAL'S STATES FIRM.

THE ENERGY COMPANY'S JURY WAS A HUNG JURY, THEY COULDN'T COME TO A DECISION ON HIS COUNTS AT ALL.

AND THE TWO REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS, ONE WAS CONVICTED AND ONE WAS ACQUITTED.

SO IT REALLY WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE, YOU REALLY CAN TELL THAT THE JURY STRUGGLED TO COME TO THESE CONCLUSIONS.

BUT JUST TO GIVE US A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT STRUGGLING, EXPLAIN TO US HOW SOME OF THESE OVERLAP.

BECAUSE IN ONE CASE, THERE WAS A NO-SHOW JOB THAT PERCOCO WAS FOUND GUILTY OF AND ON THE OTHER HAND, SOMEBODY WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY?

VERY INTERESTING.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOT THE MOST PLAY IN THE PRESS, WAS A LOW SHOW JOB THAT WENT TO PERCOCO'S WIFE SO SHE TOOK A JOB FOR $90,000 A YEAR AND DID VERY, VERY LITTLE AND THAT JOB CAME FROM THE ENERGY COMPANY.

THE ENERGY COMPANY DEFENDANT WASN'T FOUND GUILTY.

BUT ONE OF THE COUNTS PERCOCO WAS FOUND SOLICITING WAS FROM ONE OF THOSE ENERGY COMPANIES ABOUT THE LOW-SHOW JOB.

BUT IN CRIMINAL TRIALS, YOU HAVE TO FIND INTENT FOR EVERY DEFENDANT.

SO THEY PROBABLY FOUND THAT PERCOCO WAS INSTITUTING A BRIBE, BUT THE ENERGY COMPANY DIDN'T SEE IT AS A BRIBE.

WE HAVE SEEN OTHER CORRUPTION TRIALS END UP GETTING OVERTURNED, THE CONVICTION GETTING OVERTURNED, SO IS THERE ENOUGH LEFT FOR PERCOCO'S CONVICTION TO BE OVERTURNED?

I DON'T THINK ANYTHING BEEN OVERTURNED BASED ON A LITTLE BIT OF INCONSISTENCY IN THE VERDICT.

THERE ARE LOTS OF RULINGS DURING THE COURSE OF ANY TRIAL AND ALL OF THOSE CAN BE APPEALED, THEY CAN SAY THE JUDGE WAS WRONG WHEN SHE LET IN THAT EVIDENCE AND THEY'LL APPEAL ON THAT BASIS.

THEY'LL APPEAL ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF BASEBASES.

WE WON'T SEE THE SAME PROBLEM THAT WE SAW THERE.

I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY APPROPRIATE THAT YOU BRING UP THE OTHER TRIALS, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE CORRUPTION GOES HAND IN HAND WITH ALBANY AND OF COURSE THOSE WERE THE TWO LEADERS OF THE TWO BODIES OF THE LEGISLATURE, THE SENATE AND THE ASSEMBLY.

SO WHAT IS IT ABOUT ALBANY THAT MAKES IT SO RIFE FOR THIS KIND OF CORRUPTION?

IT'S HARD TO SAY, I THINK THE MAIN THING IS THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE STRICT ENOUGH CONTROLS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PREVENTATIVE MEASURES, WE HAVE TESTS AFTER THE FACT TO CONVICT PEOPLE, BUT IT'S BETTER TO PREVENT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE AND NEW YORK HAS PRETTY POOR OVERSIGHT REALLY AND ALL OF THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO IMPROVE IT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN THWARTED AT EVERY TURN.

SO THAT'S OUR PROBLEM HERE.

WE HAVE SEEN THE GOVERNOR SPEAK ABOUT THE NEED FOR MORE OVERSIGHT, WHAT KEEPS HAPPENING?

HE SEEMS TO MAKE OTHER THINGS A PRIORITY.

THERE'S THINGS THAT THE GOVERNOR CAN TWO ON HIS OWN TO CREATE BETTER OVERSIGHT AND CERTAINLY PUSH THINGS THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE TO DO THAT.

SO HE'S SAYING IT IS IMPORTANT TO HIM, BUT HE'S REALLY NOT PUTTING IT AT THE TOP OF HIS LIST.

JENNIFER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US ON THE PROGRAM.

AGAIN, WE REALLY WELCOME YOUR EXPERTISE.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

THANK YOU.

> I'M NAIM DOUGLAS FOR 'METROFOCUS,' STUDENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS NATIONAL WALKOUT DAY, THEY DEMAND REFORM IN OUR GUN LAWS IN THE WAKE OF THE RECENT STONEMAN-DOUGLAS HIGH SCHOOL IN PARKLAND, FLORIDA.

THIS WALKOUT IS ALSO HAPPENING JUST AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP REVERSED HIS DECISION TO RAISE THE MINIMUM AGE TO PURCHASE A GUN FROM 18 TO 21.

HIS PROPOSAL FOCUSES ON MODEST CHANGES THAT INCLUDE, PUTTING TOGETHER A TASK FORCE TO STUDY SCHOOL VIOLENCE AND LOOK AT WAYS TO TRAIN TEACHER WHO IS WANT TO CARRY GUNS.

WE WENT TO A HIGH SCHOOL HERE IN MANHATTAN AS THEY MADE THEIR WAY TO WASHINGTON SQUARE PARK.

TELL ME WHY ARE YOU OUT HERE TODAY?

OKAY, SO I'M OUT HERE TODAY TO PROTEST THE GUN VIOLENCE THAT WE FACE IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE HAVE HAD OVER 148 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS SINCE 2013 AND I THINK THAT IS RIDICULOUS.

AND IT'S SO SCARY TO THINK THAT I'M GOING -- THAT I COULD BE IN A SITUATION THAT INSTEAD OF WRITING MY COLLEGE ESSAY, I'M GOING TO BE WRITING MY WILL.

THIS WALKOUT IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO WELL.

IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ORGANIZED AND WE CAN DO IT.

TELL ME THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT 17 SECONDS OF SILENCE AND YOUR ARMS LOCKED HERE.

WITH OUR ARMS LOCKED, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE ONE, YOU CAN'T DIVIDE US.

I WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE WHY WE WERE HERE, TO THINK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR US STUDENTS TWO CAN BE PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY HAS SHOOTINGS IN SCHOOL.

SO AS I WAS HERE WITH MY PEERS, I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHO DID PASS AWAY AND HOW THEY'RE IN A BETTER PLACE NOW AND HOW I DON'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE TO END UP LIKE THAT AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR MY PEERS WHEN I SAY THAT.

WE'RE CHILDREN AND WE'RE ABOUT COLLEGE AND NOT ABOUT DYING.

LIKE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY AND FEEL LIKE UNSAFE IN OUR OWN SCHOOLS, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE GUNS IN OUR SCHOOLS.

IT'S FRICKIN' WILD.

WE'RE GOING TO LOBBY FOR GUN CONTROL, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE CALLING OUR REPRESENTATIVES, SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST 100 PEOPLE HERE TO HELP US WITH THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE.

POLITICIANS PRETEND TO BE TORN APART AND SADDENED AND THEY DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHICH PROVES TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THE PEOPLE WE VOTED IN TO PROTECT US, CARE MORE ABOUT THEIR FUNDING THAN OUR LIVES.

I SEE YOUTH TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THEIR LIVES AND ALSO TRULY LIVING IN SENSE OF COLLECTIVE LIBERATION, RIGHT?

LIKE THE YOUTH, THEY SHOULD BE LITERALLY INSIDE THE SCHOOLHOUSE LEARNING.

SO THEY DECIDED TO TAKE THE LEARNING OUTSIDE THE SCHOOLHOUSE.

THERE'S A LOT OF LEARNING HAPPENING HERE.

WE GO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL ON 14th STREET.

EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE, FROM OUR TEACHERS TO OUR PEERS WHO ARE STANDING HERE TODAY.

WE HAVE PEOPLE HELPING US MAKING POSTERS AND FLYERS AND WE EVEN HAVE BUTTONS WE'RE GIVING OUT.

I THINK STUDENTS SHOULD ADVOCATE FOR EMPOWERMENT AND TO SEE SUCH A BIG CROWD AND LIKE JUST TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE COME AND TALK AND BE -- LIKE FEEL EMPOWERED AND FEEL INSPIRED, IT'S SUCH A GOOD FEELING, AS AN ORGANIZER, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I WANTED AND THIS IS WHAT I GOT.

YOU'RE A TEACHER AT THE SCHOOL, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE SCHOOL IS MAYBE NOT ADVOCATING, BUT THEY'RE OKAY WITH STUDENTS LEAVING AND PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

STUDENTS CAN DO A PROTEST OR A WALKOUT FOR 17 MINUTES, BASICALLY IF THEY HAVE PARENTAL CONSENT.

EACH PERSON HERE HAS MADE A DECISION TO ONLY COME HERE FOR 17 MINUTES AND PRACTICE THEIR AGENCY, OR ENGAGE IN ACTION AND CONSEQUENCES IF THEY WANT.

SO THEY ARE AWARE OF WHAT THE CONSEQUENCE OF NOT COMING BACK AFTER 17 MINUTES IS, AND THEY'RE MAKING A DECISION THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM.

AND THEIR FAMILIES.

I KNOW PERSONALLY, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT WALK OUT BECAUSE IF THEIR PARENTS KNEW THEY WERE DOING THIS, THEY WOULD BE GROUNDED FOR, LIKE, EVER.

I THINK IT'S WORTH IT BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING OUT HERE AND YOU'RE TAKING A STAND AND GIVING A BIG SCREW YOU TO GOVERNMENT AND SAYING, DUDE, THIS IS AN ACTUAL PROBLEM AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT.

WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO GET OUT OF A MOVEMENT LIKE THIS.

RECOGNITION FROM OUR POLITICIANS.

WE ARE HERE TO VOTE, WE WILL BE VOTING IN THE NEXT ELECTION,ER VOTED IN THE PRIMARIES.

YOU HAVE TO START REACHING OUT TO YOUR PEOPLE AND EXECUTING THE CHANGE THAT YOU'RE PROMISING.

WE JUST WANT TO BE HEARD, WE WANT TO STRIKE FEAR INTO THE HEART OF THOSE WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING.

WE WANT TO MAKE THEM FEEL GUILTY, YOU SHOULD.

THESE CHILDREN DIED BECAUSE YOU DID NOTHING AFTER SANDY HOOK.

THESE TEACHERS GAVE THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT THEIR STUDENTS.

THERE ARE KIDS IN PARKLAND, THERE ARE FIRST GRADERS WHO ARE MURDERED, AND WE'RE DOING NOTHING.

THIS IS AN AMERICAN PROBLEM.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET RECOGNITION.

STUDENTS SAY THEIR PROTEST IS NOT ENDING HERE, IN FACT THEY PLAN ANOTHER WALKOUT TO REMEMBER THE COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL MASSACRE.

THE MAYOR AND FIRST LADY -- BUT THE MORE THE OPPORTUNITIES SPOKE UP, THE MORE THE MAYOR WAS ACCUSED OF TURNING A DEAF EAR TO THEIR CONCERN.

THE BULK OF THE STUDENTS SAID THERE WAS AN OVERUSE OF METAL DETECTORS IN SCHOOLS PRIMARILY MADE UP OF PEOPLE OF COLOR AND MISTREATED BY SCHOOL SAFETY AGENTS.

BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ULTIMATELY THE NYPD'S DOMAIN.

LET'S LISTEN IN.

I REALLY BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE 1960s OR THE 1970s TO HAVE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS HAVING THIS KIND OF IMPACT.

I CAN SAY ABSOLUTELY OBJECTIVELY, THERE'S NEVER BEEN THIS MUCH FOCUS AND THIS MUCH ENERGY FOR CHANGE IN DECADES.

ON THIS ISSUE OF HOW WE STOP VIOLENCE AND PROTECT EACH OTHER.

SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

I THINK METAL DETECTORS IS A SAFE WAY OF KEEPING A PROBLEM FROM OCCURRING.

ESPECIALLY IN A SCHOOL LIKE MY OWN, THERE'S HUNDREDS OF KIDS AND THERE'S NO WAY ANYONE CAN KNOW IF THEY'RE BRINGING A GUN TO SCHOOL.

THIS WOULD HAVE SAVED A CHILD'S LIFE IN THE BRONX LAST MONTH.

I KNOW THIS COSTS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT NEW YORK CITY HAS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IF WE CAN INVEST SOME MONEY INTO THE SECURITY OF STUDENTS FOR THE FUTURE.

AND ALSO CAN WE PUT POLICE OFFICERS IN EVERY SCHOOL?

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WHAT WE ARE DOING, PARTICULARLY IN REFERENCE TO THE TRAGEDY IN FLORIDA IS WE'RE NOW DOING UNANNOUNCED SCANNING AT EVERY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND EVERY HIGH SCHOOL IN NEW YORK CITY.

IT BUT IN TERMS OF DECISIONS TO KEEP SCANNING IN THE SCHOOL, THAT HAS TO BE DONE WITH THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY AND WITH THE ULTIMATE CHOICE OF THE NYPD.

I JUST WANT TO SHED LIGHT TO THE FACT THAT AFTER COLUMBINE, THE INTEREST WAS NOT IN FEDERAL MONEY TO INCREASE -- THEY RECEIVED RESOURCES SUCH AS COUNSELING AND MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT, BUT WHAT DID COMMUNITIES OF COLOR GET?

METAL DETECTORS AND SAFETY OFFICERS TRAINED BY NYPD.

IT'S BEEN SHOWN THAT METAL DETECTORS AND POLICE OFFICERS DON'T MAKE STUDENTS FEEL ANY SAFER.

ALSO IN TERMS OF POLICE PRESENCE, ARE CRIMINAL LIVES FOR NORMAL USE BEHAVIOR.

FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, BLACK AND BROWN STUDENTS HAVE BEEN 90% OR MORE OF -- WHAT IS THE INCREASED COST OF IMPLEMENTING SCANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HOW MUCH INCREASING POLICE PRESENCE WILL IT TAKE TO CONDUCT THE SCANNING.

WHY ARE YOU MAKING THE SAME MISTAKE PRIORITIZING POLICE AND METAL DETECTORS INSTEAD OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES IN OUR SCHOOLS?

SH.

I DON'T THINK WE ARE MAKING THAT MISTAKE.

BUT I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER IS IMPORTANT, ONE, WE BELIEVE FUNDAMENTALLY, WE HAVE TO AND THE SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS OF STUDENTS AND THAT'S WHAT THE THRIVE INITIATIVE IS ALL ABOUT.

AND THAT'S BEEN A HUGE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT HAVE GONE INTO THAT AND ARE GOING INTO SCHOOLS.

TWO, WE BELIEVE IN NEIGHBORHOOD POLICING.

AND THAT MEANS ENGAGING EVERYONE INCLUDING STUDENTS AND PEOPLE GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER, OFFICERS GETTING TO KNOW STUDENTS AND VICE VERSA.

IF ANYONE FEELS THAT THAT'S NOT HAPPENING IN THEIR SCHOOLS OR IN THEIR LIFE, WE HAVE MORE WORK TO DO.

BUT I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR, IF YOU SAID WHAT WAS THE MODEL OF THE PAST OF POLICING, WAS IT ABOUT DIALOGUE, WAS IT ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER INDIVIDUALLY AND BY NAME?

NO, OF COURSE NOT.

AND THAT MODEL, I AGREE WITH YOU DOESN'T WORK.

AS WE CHANGED TO NEIGHBORHOOD POLICING AS WE GOT RID OF STOP AND FRISK, WE REDUCED ARRESTS.

CRIME GOES DOWN.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE HAVE SOME REAL COMMON GROUND IN OUR THINKING.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO A KIND OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES TO PROMOTE WELLNESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN YOUR SCHOOL?

METAL DETECTORS AND FREQUENT SEARCHES ARE AFFECTIVE IN AVOID ING TRAGEDY --

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

COULD YOU FIRST SPEAK TO WHAT SHE WAS ASKING?

I'M GOING TO GET TO IT.

OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, THANK YOU.

LET ME START OVER.

METAL DETECTORS AND FREQUENT SEARCHES ARE EFFECTIVE IN AVOIDING TRAGEDY ALTHOUGH ACCEPTANCE OF -- MORE COUNSELORS SOCIAL WORKERS AND BETTER SUPPORT GROUPS HELP STUDENTS TO -- MORE COUNSELORS IN THE SCHOOLS.

I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCING OF GOING THROUGH METAL DETECTORS IN SCHOOLS AND I FEEL CRIMINALIZED.

TO PREVENT FEELING CRIMINALIZED AND AVOID FUTURE CHAOS, WHY METAL DETECTORS INSTEAD OF COUNSELING AND SUPPORT GROUPS TO BUILD A SAFE AND TRUST WORTHY COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THE QUESTION IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE GREATEST EXPERTISE IN THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY RESIDES WITH JERRY O'NEIL.

HE DOES NOT WANT TO SEE TEACHERS WITH GUNS, HE DOES NOT THINK THAT WILL SOLVE PROBLEMS.

BUT WE WANT TO KEEP EVERY STUDENT SAFE.

BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE HISTORICAL MOMENTS YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

BUT I DON'T DOUBT THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE LIVES WERE SAVED FROM PEOPLE WHO MEANT TO DO HARM.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY IS TRYING TO GET INFORMATION IF A PERSON IS A THREAT TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS AND ACTING ON IT AND MAKING SURE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

BUT I BELIEVE IN THE ENTIRE BILL OF RIGHTS.

I THINK YOU CAN BELIEVE IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS BUT STILL BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY IN OUR SOCIETY.

> NEW YORK MAGAZINE TURNS 50 THIS SPRING, AND TO CELEBRATE THE PUBLICATION'S ANNIVERSARY, THEY HAVE LAUNCHED A YEAR-LONG CAMPAIGN CALLED 'MY NEW YORK.'

IT KICKED OFF THE CAMPAIGN WITH 50 NEW YORK COVERS.

WHERE THEY HAVE INVITED 50 RENOWNED ARTISTS TO CREATE 50 UNIQUE COVERS.

DON'T EXPECT TO SEE THESE WORKS OF ART JUST IN A GALLERY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THEM SCATTERED THROUGHOUT NEW YORK CITY, ANYWHERE FROM A BAR BATHROOM ON THE UPPER EAST SIDE, TO THE STREET SIDE.

SO A 50 YEAR ANNIVERSARY, WHERE DID THE IDEA COME FROM TO CREATE 50 UNIQUE TYPES OF COVERS?

WE THOUGHT THAT WE WANTED TO SPEND A YEAR CELEBRATING OUR 50th ANNIVERSARY.

AND WE WOULD START WITH A MAGAZINE ISSUE AND END WITH A MAGAZINE ISSUE AND IN THE MIDDLE TWO SOME SORT OF ONGOING, UNEXPECTED CULTURAL FESTIVAL, IN A LOOSE SENSE IN THE CITY.

AND WE KNEW WE WANTED TO BUILD AROUND A PARTICULAR THEME THAT WE WERE CALLING MY NEW YORK, WHICH IS TO SIMPLY, INVITING PEOPLE AND SOLICITING OUT FROM THEM NEW YORK STORIES, THEIR OWN STORIES.

AND IN THAT SENSE, GET A HISTORY OF THE CITY THAT WASN'T REALLY ABOUT OUR MAGAZINE, BUT ABOUT JUST EVERYONE'S OWN PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY AND THE WEIRD THINGS THAT HAPPEN HERE.

AND NEW YORK CITY MAGAZINE HAS OFTEN WORKED WITH ARTISTS ON COVERS FOR US, USUALLY WHEN WE HAVE AN IDEA OR A BREAKING NEWS STORY AND WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXPRESS IT IN A VISUAL LANGUAGE AND USE THE MAGAZINE COVER AS A CULTURAL ART FORM, TO COMMUNICATE AN EMOTION TO THE READER.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT FIRST COMES TO MIND IS WHEN ELIOT SPITZER RESIGNED, BARBARA KRUEGER MADE AN INSTANTLY ICONIC COVER WITH US.

BUT WHAT WE THOUGHT AS WE STARTED WORKING WITH ALEX KATZ IS MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS INVITE 50 NEW YORK ARTISTS TO MAKE 50 NEW YORK MAGAZINE COVERS AND ASK THEM TO USE THAT COVER TO EXPRESS THEIR SENSE OF WHAT THE CITY LOOKS LIKE TO THEM RIGHT NOW.

DID YOU GIVE THEM ANY OTHER DIRECTION OR WERE THEY ESSENTIALLY TOLD, YOU KNOW THIS PLACE, YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS PLACE, YOU KNOW US AS A MAGAZINE, GIVE US SOMETHING?

THEY DON'T NEED TO SERVE ON A NEWSSTAND AND ADVERTISE THE ISSUE, THEY'RE SORT OF ON THEIR OWN, BUT THEY STILL HAVE A COVER.

WE GAVE THEM THE COVER LINES AND HAD THEM WORK ON A COVER AND THEY HAD TO COMMUNICATE AN IDEA VISUALLY.

THAT'S JUST FROM A FORMAL TECHNICAL STANDPOINT AND THEN THE GUIDANCE WE ASKED FOR WAS JUST FAIRLY SIMPLY SHOW US YOUR NEW YORK RIGHT NOW.

IT AND THAT HAS GIVEN US AND WE ARE STILL ACCEPTING SOME OF THE LAST ENTRIES AND STILL OPENING THE MAIL EVERY DAY AND SEEING WHAT'S COMING IN, GIVING A REALLY WIDE RANGE THAT I THINK OPENS US UP AS A MAGAZINE IN A WAY THAT WE COULDN'T DO IF IT WERE JUST AN OCCASIONAL NEWSSTAND COVER.

IT'S NOT THE SORT OF TRADITIONING MAGAZINE, WE NEED THE COVER TO GRAB EYEBALLS FROM A NEWSSTAND.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND AS I MENTIONED, AS A CONSEQUENCE, THEY'RE SHOWING UP DIFFERENT PLACES.

WHAT WAS THE IDEA BEHIND THAT?

THE VISION WAS TO BE AS GRAND AND AMBITIOUS AN ART PROJECT AS NEW YORK HAS EVER SEEN, BUT WITH THE SPIRIT OF A SCRAPPY, STREET ARTIST, I DIDN'T EXPECT TO SEE THAT THERE, KIND OF PROJECT.

THE BUDGET LOOKS CLOSER TO THAN THAN THE GATES IN CENTRAL PARK.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, IN SOME CASES BILLBOARDS THE SIZE OF BUILDINGS AND ALSO PASTING AND CAMPAIGNS, USUALLY ON SPACES LOANED TO US BY PARTNERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE PARTNER, WHO HAVE AN AFFILIATION WITH THE MAGAZINE, INTERESTED IN THE ARTIST, EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA.

SO WE HAVE THIS MASSIVE SPREADSHEET TRYING TO MATCH OUR OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE TIMING.

AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT LAUNCH ALL THE COVERS AT ONCE.

OUT IN THE CITY, IN ABOUT 15 LOCATIONS WE HAVE PLASTERED THESE COVERS AND IN A FEW LOCATIONS, WE HAD LARGE POSTER SIZE PASS THAT HAD TEN COVERS YOU COULD TEAR OFF.

YOU COULD TEAR THEM OFF AND TAKE THEM HOME WITH YOU.

THAT GOT THE MOST REACTION, PEOPLE GOT REALLY EXCITED, HEY, I CAN HAVE A YOKO ONO ART WORK, OR A BARBARA KRUEGER ART WORK.

BY THE TIME MANY PEOPLE GOT THERE, THEY WERE GONE, BUT IT GOT A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM FOR THE PROJECT AND WE WANTED TO HAVE QUICK, SURPRISING ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT SUDDENLY YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROJECT BY GRABBING ONE HERE OR THERE.

AND AS PART OF THE CELEBRATION, THERE ARE ALSO EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE AROUND THE CITY, GIVE US SOME OF THE EVENTS.

I'LL TALK ABOUT IT BROADLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME INTEREST IN JUST KIND OF POPPING UP UNEXPECTEDLY.

THERE ARE A LOT OF NEW YORK COMEDIANS FILMMAKERS, MUSICIANS, CHEFS, IT'S A CULTURAL EVENT, A CONCERT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S DONE IN A UNIQUE WAY AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS YEAR-LONG CONVERSATION OF WHAT NEW YORK IS RIGHT NOW.

IT JUST SOUNDS AND FEELS LIKE NEW YORK MAGAZINE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO.

THAT WAS THE HOPE.

AND I HAVE BEEN A READER FOR ALMOST AS LONG AS IT'S BEEN OUT THERE.

SO, DAVID, THANKS FOR SPENDING SOME TIME WITH US, JUST GREAT IDEAS AND FUN THINGS I'M SURE THAT NEW YORK FANS AND PERHAPS NEW NEW YORK MAGAZINE FANS WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY.

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