TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

The fight over immigration in the U.S. reaches critical mass as President Trump allegedly asks lawmakers why the U.S. is accepting immigrants from “s***hole countries,” and protests take place in New York City as I.C.E. detains a prominent immigration activist. And, as the President vows to stomp out the deadly MS-13 gang, we learn about the Long Island teens at the center of the fight, who are being forced to choose between joining the gang or being sent back to their homeland. Jonathan Blitzer, staff writer at The New Yorker, joins us to discuss these issues. PBS gives us a front row seat as legendary singer Tony Bennett is honored with the Gershwin Prize For Popular Song. And the celebration continues in the Big Apple where he and his wife sit down with us to share their secrets for living “The Good Life.” The story of one of Britain’s most important monarchs continues as PBS’s hit drama series “Victoria” is back. What’s in store for season 2? Creator Daisy Goodwin and actor Rufus Sewell are here with a preview. 

Aired on January 12, 2018.

TRANSCRIPT

> TONIGHT ON 'METRO FOCUS' A NATION STUNNED AS THE FIGHT OVER IMMIGRATION REACHES CRITICAL MASS.

IN AN IMMIGRATION MEETING, PRESIDENT TRUMP ALLEGEDLY ASKED WHY THE U.S. IS ACCEPTING IMMIGRANTS FROM QUOTE, S-HOLE COUNTRY AND PROTEST IN NEW YORK CITY AS I.C.E. DETAINS AN ACTIVIST.

> DEATH OR DEPORTATION, AS THE PRESIDENT VOWS TO STOMP OUT THE DEADLY MS-13 GANG, WE LEARN ABOUT THE LONG ISLAND TEENS AT THE CENTER OF THE FIGHT FORCED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN JOINING THE GANG AND SENT BACK TO THE HOMELANDS.

A STAR STUDDED EVENING OF TRIBUTE.

PBS GIVES US A GREAT SEAT WITH A PRIZE FOR POPULAR SONG AND THE CELEBRATION CONTINUES IN THE BIG APPLE WHERE HE AND HIS WIFE SIT DOWNSTA SHARING THE SECRETS OF GOOD LIFE.

PBS'S HIT DRAMA SERIES 'VICTORIA.'

WHAT IS IN STORE FOR SEASON TWO?

THE ACTORS ARE HERE WITH THE REVIEW.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE AS 'METRO FOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

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> THIS IS 'METRO FOCUS' WITH RAPHAEL P. ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY --

CORPORATE FUNDING FOR 'METRO FO FOCUS' IS PROVIDED BY METRO AMERICA AND PGSNG, INVESTING IN THE FUTURE.

> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO 'METRO FOCUS.'

I'M JENNA FLANAGAN.

WE BEGIN WITH A HEATED DEBATE OVER IMMIGRATION.

WITH THE PRESIDENT LAST NIGHT ACCUSED OF ASKING WHY HE SHOULD ACCEPT IMMIGRANTS FROM S-HOLE COUNTRIES.

THE COMMENTS HE WAS ACCUSED OF CAME AFTER PROMINENT RIGHTS LEADER WAS AGENTS WITH A ROUTINE CHECK YESTERDAY HERE IN NEW YORK.

HIS ARREST SPARKED PASSIONATE PROTEST WITH TWO LEADING MEMBERS OF THE NEW YORK CITY COUNSEL ARRESTED AT THE RALLY.

WILLIAMS WAS CAPTURED AS POLICE CUFFED HIM AND RODRIGUEZ CLAIMS HE WAS HELD BY AN NYPD OFFICER.

MEANWHILE IN WASHINGTON, THE REMARKS REPORTEDLY MADE BY THE PRESIDENT CAME DURING A CLOSED DOOR MEETING WHEN DISCUSSING A DEAL.

'THE WASHINGTON POST' REPORTED THAT WHEN DISCUSSING THE POTENTIAL OF PROTECTING IMMIGRANTS FROM HAITI, EL SALVADOR AND AFRICAN COUNTRIES, TRUMP RESPONDED BY ASKING WHY ARE WE HAVING ALL THESE PEOPLE FROM S-HOLE COUNTRIES COME HERE?

THE PRESIDENT LATER DENIED THE REMARKS.

THE QUESTION HITS CLOSE TO HOME WITH THE EMERGING OF THE MS-13 GANG ON LONG ISLAND WHOSE ROOTS LIE IN THE COUNTRY.

PRESIDENT TRUMP VISITED THIS SUMMER WHERE HE OUTLINED ADMINISTRATION'S EFFORTS TO FIGHT THE GANG.

OUR HEARTS AND OUR NATION GRIEVE FOR THE VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES SINCE JANUARY 16.

THINK OF THIS, MS-13 GANG MEMBERS HAVE BRUTALLY MURDERED 17 BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LIVES IN THIS AREA ON LONG ISLAND ALONE.

THINK OF IT.

THEY BUTCHERED THOSE LITTLE GIRLS.

THEY KID SNAP, THEY EXTORT, THEY RAPE AND THEY ROB.

THEY PRAY ON CHILDREN.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE HERE.

THEY STOMP ON THEIR VICTIMS.

THEY BEAT THEM WITH CLUBS.

THEY SLASH THEM WITH MACHETES.

AND THEY STAB THEM WITH KNIVES.

THEY HAVE TRANSFORMED PEACEFUL PARKS AND QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS INTO BLOOD-STAINED KILLING FI FIELDS.

JONATHAN BLITZER PUBLISHED A PIECE ON THE CHAOS.

JACK FORD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH HIM AND BEGAN BY ASKING WHAT COMPELLED HIM.

WE FOCUS ON IMMIGRATION CRISIS AS THOUGH THEY ARE THINGS THAT ANNOUNCED THEMSELVES AT OUR DOOR AND IN PACTFACT, THE CASE EL SALVADOR QUESTIONS ME.

THE PATH LARGELY HAVE TO DO WITH AMERICAN POLICY AND SO THIS GANG FOR INSTANCE IS A GANG THAT BEGAN IN THE U.S. AND CENTRAL AMERICA BECAUSE THE U.S.

DEPORTED SOME GANG MEMBERS IN MASS BACK TO CENTRAL AMERICA IN THE 1990s.

THEY FOSTERED THE GROWTH STARTED HERE AS YOU SAID AND SO THERE INAND OUR POLICIES FOSTER THE GROWTH.

IT'S A SITUATION WHERE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF KIDS COME TO THE U.S. BORDER SEEKING REFUGE FROM THE GANGS AND THEY ARE HERE AND WE OFTEN, THE POLITICIANS OFTEN STRIKE THIS VERY AGGRESSIVE TONE AND RHE RHETORIC.

WE ARE LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING CRISIS NOW.

THE DILEMMA AND TALKING IN THE LEGAL SENSE ABOUT THE IDEA THAT WE'RE SAYING, WE BEING LAW ENFORCE TCE ENFORCEMENT, HELP US TO CONVICT THESE BAD GUYS AND YET, THEY ARE IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION, THESE VICTIMS.

WHY IS THAT SO?

WELL, THEY LIVE IN COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY RUB SHOULDERS WITH GANGSTERS EVERY DAY.

THEY GO TO SCHOOL WITH THEM.

THEY ARE COMPETING FOR JOBS WITH THEM.

SO THEY LIVE IN A WORLD IN WHICH THESE GANG MEMBERS ARE PRESENT AT ALL LEVELS OF THE DAY AND THEIR PARENTS OFTEN, THE VICTIMS OF THESE GANGSTERS AND GANG VIOLENCE ARE OFTEN PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED THEMSELVES.

THEY ARE SCARED IF THEY COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY WOULD RUN THE RISK OF BEING ARRESTED AND DEPORTED.

IS THAT A LEGITIMATE FEAR?

IT FRANKLY IS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRIKES ME THE MOST ABOUT THAT CLIP FROM TRUMP THAT YOU RAN IS I'VE SEEN THAT SPEECH TOO MANY TIMES, BUT, YOU KNOW, HE TALKS ABOUT THE VICTIMS BEING 17 BEAUTIFUL VICTIMS IS THE LANGUAGE HE USED.

MOST OF THE VICTIMS, IN FACT, ALMOST ALL OF THE VICTIMS ARE IMMIGRANTS THEMSELVES IN LONG ISLAND.

WE INVOKE BEAUTIFUL VICTIMS, THE PROBLEM IS THE VERY PEOPLE WHO ARE VICTIMIZED BY THE GANGS TEND TO BE TARGETED AS AN ATTEMPTED SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM.

YOU FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

ONE OF THE PEOPLE YOU FOCUS ON IS A YOUNG WOMAN BY THE NAME OF ELAIN ELAINA.

TELL ME ABOUT HER AND WHY SHE'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE STORY.

HER STORY, A 16-YEAR-OLD GIRL.

AMERICAN CITIZEN.

HER PARENTS ARE SALVADOR IMMIGRANTS.

GREW UP ON LONG ISLAND.

WENT TO A LOCAL HIGH SCHOOL.

AT THAT HIGH SCHOOL, SHE WOUND UP IN ESL CLASSES FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T SPEAK NATIVE ENGLISH, EVEN THOUGH SHE SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH.

A LOT OF SCHOOLS ARE OVER BURDENED.

THEY HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES.

THEY HAVE LIMITED MONEY.

SHE'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS.

SHE FINDS HERSELF IN THIS ESL PROGRAM AT HER LOCAL SCHOOL, AN AMERICAN CITIZEN THAT SPEAKS FLUENT ENGLISH AND MEETS A YOUNG BOY A LITTLE OLDER THAN HER.

TURNS OUT HE'S A MEMBER OF MS-13.

WHEN HE FIRST MEETS HIM, SHE DOESN'T REALIZE THE EXTENT.

THINKS HE IS TRYING TO IMPRESS HIV HER AND BE TOUGH AND A FEW MONTHS LATER SHE REALIZES THE DANGER.

HE BEATS HER, THREATENS HER FAMILY.

WHEN SHE SAYS LOOK, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU ANYMORE.

HE SHOWS UP AT HER HOUSE AND FOLLOWS HER BROTHER.

ALL KINDS OF THREATS LIKE THIS.

EVENTUALLY, HE KIDNAPS HER AND SHE SPENTS DS THREE MONTHS IN CAPTIVITY IN LONG ISLAND AND ESCAPES AND SLOWLY TRIES TO PUT HER LIFE BACK TOGETHER.

WHAT IS MOST STRIKING ABOUT HER CASE, SHE GOES BACK TO SCHOOL AND TRIES TO MAKE NEW FRIENDS AND MEETS ANOTHER PERSON WHO SHE ENDS UP GETTING VERY CLOSE TO WHO, LIKE HER EX-BOYFRIEND, CAME TO THE U.S. AS A SO-CALLED UNACCOMPANIED MINOR.

IT TURNED OUT THEY ARRESTED HER NEW BOYFRIEND THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GANG BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THEY WERE ENGAGING IN WIDE-SPREAD RACIAL PROFILING.

HE WAS SEEN ASSOCIATING WITH KNOWN GANG MEMBERS.

AGAIN, THEY ALL GO TO THE SAME SCHOOL.

HE WAS SEEN WEARING CLOTHES SUGGESTIVE OF GANG MEMBERSHIP.

WHAT TEENAGER WON'T WEAR CERTAIN KINDS OF CLOTHES.

SHE WAS IN THIS PERVERSE, IN THIS IRONIC SITUATION OF HAVING BEEN VICTIMIZED BY THE GANG FINALLY THROUGH HER OWN STRENGTH CRAWLING OUT OF THAT, CLAWING HER WAY.

I MEET SOMEBODY WHO ISN'T A GANG MEMBER AND GETS PULLED UP IN THE VORTEX ANYWAY.

THE CIRCULARITY OF THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO CAPTURE.

LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SAYING LOOK, WE WANT TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

WE'LL TAKE EVERY MEANS NECESSARY TO TRY TO RID THIS COMMUNITY OF LOCAL GANGSTERS AND THE PROBLEM IS IN THEIR CRACK DOWN, THEY END UP RUINING THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VICTIMIZED BY THE GANG IN THE FIRST PLACE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE RESPONSE WOULD BE TO PEOPLE WHO LOOK AT THAT AND SOMEONE SAYS LOOK, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE GET RID OF THIS GANG, IT'S BECOME SO PERVASIVE AND EVERY ASPECT OF THESE PEOPLE'S LIVES.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

WE GOT TO COME DOWN HEAVY AND MIGHT MEAN FOLKS WILL BE COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT?

I WOULD SAY ON A VALUES LEVEL THAT'S CONTRARY TO WHAT WE ARE AS A COUNTRY, AND I THINK ONE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE AS AMERICANS TEND TO THINK OF THAT KIND OF THING COULDN'T HAPPEN IN THE U.S., LAW ENFORCEMENT COULDN'T PICK UP THESE PEOPLE AS COLLATERAL DAMAGE IS BECAUSE OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM THAT WE KNOW THAT CRIMINAL DEFENDANTS HAVE LEGAL PROTECTIONS.

THE PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT I THINK IS CRAZY ABOUT THIS STORY, YOU HAVE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ADDRESSING THIS PROBLEM.

TYPICALLY IF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT WERE TRYING TO DISMANTLE A GANG THAT HAS A STRANGLE HOLD ON THE COMMUNITY, THEY HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A RATHER COMPLEX CASE WITH LOCAL PROSECUTORS, IT TAKES A LOT OF COORDINATION, A LOT OF RESOURCES.

WHAT THEY ARE DOING INSTEAD WITH MS-13 BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY AFFECTED IS AN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IS BRINGING IN I.C.E.

I.C.E., IMMIGRATION, CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T FOLLOW THE SAME PROTOCOLS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THEY ARE GOING AFTER IS GUILTY OF ONE THING, BEING IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY.

THERE ARE VERY MANY INSTANCES AND INCREASINGLY WELL-DOCUMENTED ISIS IS PICKING PEOPLE UP ON SUSPICIONS OF GANG MEMBERSHIP.

THEY DON'T BELONG TO THE GANG.

PEOPLE CAN VOUCH FOR THEM.

ALL OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO THEIR ARREST CAN BE EXPLAINED AWAY OR QUALIFIED AND YOU HAVE I.C.E. SAYING EVEN THEN, THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR PROBLEM.

THE FACT IS, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY AND IT'S OUR JOB TO GET THEM OUT.

IN THESE COMMUNITIES, A BIG PART OF THIS DRAMA HAS TO DO WITH KIDS THAT CAME HERE AS UNACCOMPANIED MINORS.

THOSE KIDS WHEN THEY CAME, THEY ARE 8,600 OF THEM ON LONG ISLAND ALONE BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE CLOSE TO 150,000 OF THEM WHO CAME BETWEEN 2014 AND THE PRESENT.

THOSE KIDS WHO CAME HERE WERE FLEEING THE GANGS.

THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO TRIED TO REUNITE WITH FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING IN THE U.S.

BECAUSE THE WAY U.S. IMMIGRATION LAW WORKS, WHEN THEY SHOW UP AT THE BORDER, THEY ARE PUT IN DEPORTATION SETTINGS.

IT'S A BURRO HOLDING PATTERN.

THEY SAY BECAUSE WE KNOW YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES ARE DIFFICULT AND BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T COMMITTED CRIMES, WE'LL TRY TO LET THE LEGAL SYSTEM PLAY ITSELF OUT AND ALLOW YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK COUNSEL, TO POSSIBLY APPLY FOR ASYLUM.

IN THE MEANTIME, UNTIL ALL OF THOSE BOXES ARE CHECKED, YOU'RE TECHNICALLY IN DEPORTATION SETTINGS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S EASY FOR IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT TO GO IN, MAKE SUMMERY ARRESTS AND PREPARE PEOPLE FOR DEPORTATION BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY IN THAT BOAT.

ALREADY.

YEAH.

THE ARTICLE, IT'S A WONDERFUL ARTICLE.

VERY COMPELLING LOOK AT VERY, VERY TROUBLING ISSUES.

JONATHAN, APPRECIATE YOUR SPENDING TIME WITH US AND AS YOU CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS, WE'LL GET YOU BACK IN TO TALK SOME MORE.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

YOU BE WELL.

♪ THE TREE OF LIFE I JUST PICKED ME A PLUM ♪

AT AGE 91, TONY BENNETT FEELS THE BEST IS YET TO COME.

AND HE MAY WELL BE RIGHT.

HE WAS RECENTLY HONORED BY THE LIBRARY PRIZE FOR POPULAR SONG FOR HIS LIFE-TIME CONTRIBUTIONS THAT EXEMPLIFY THE STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE.

PBS WILL PREMIERE MUSICAL SPECIAL HONORING THE RECEIPT OF THIS PRIZE JANUARY 12th AT 9:00 P.M. EASTERN TIME.

♪ I LEFT MY HEART

JOIN AN ALL-STAR MUSICAL SOLUTE TO THE 2017 RECIPIENT OF THE LIBRARY OF POPULAR SONG WITH PERFORMANCES BY MICHAEL BUBLE, JOSH GROBAN, VANESSA WILLIAMS, STEVIE WONDER AND MORE.

I RECENTLY TALKED TO HIS WIFE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE ARTS AND HOW HE FIRST BEGAN HIS CAREER WHEN BOB HOPE CHANGED HIS NAME FROM ANTHONY BENIDENO TONY BENNETT.

HE TOOK ME ON THE ROAD WITH HIM.

YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT IN THE BUSINESS.

HE TOOK ME TO THE WEST COAST AND I'VE BEEN IN SHOW BIZ SINCE.

HE WAS THE ONE THAT SAID TO YOU HERE IS THE NAME YOU'RE GOING TO USE, NOT ANTHONY BENENDIDO.

YOU'RE TONY BENNETT.

HE JUST ANNOUNCED YOU LIKE THAT ONE NIGHT?

HE DID.

WALKED AROUND, WHO IS THIS TONY BENNETT GUY?

YOU REALIZED, WAIT, A MINUTE, THAT'S ME.

IT WAS AT THE PARAMOUNT THEATER.

IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER HEARD THAT NAME.

YOU TALK ABOUT COUNT BASIE AND THE BEETLES WERE POPULAR AND WHERE SHOULD I GO NOW AND HE GAVE YOU ADVICE.

HE WAS AT BIRD LAND.

EVERY NIGHT IT WAS THE MOST POPULAR THING TO DO IN NEW YORK CITY AND AS CLOSE AS YOU AND I ARE RIGHT NOW, THAT'S HOW WE LIKE THE FIRST TO BE, REAL CLOSE TO HIM HERE.

HE LIKED EVERYBODY CLOSE TO HIM.

AND HE TAUGHT ME TO WORK INTERMITTENTLY.

IT COMMUNICATES.

I READ SOMETHING ONE TIME WHERE SOMEBODY WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THEIR SINGING AND THEY SAID YOU HAVE THIS MAGICAL ABILITY TO TAKE A SONG FROM DECADES AGO AND MAKE IT FEEL AS COMFORTABLE FOR YOUR AUDIENCE AS IF YOU'RE SITTING OVER A CUP OF COFFEE AND HAVING A CONVERSATION.

IS THAT A GOOD WAY TO EXPLAIN HOW YOU LIKE TO PERFORM?

YEAH, IF YOU DO IT WITH GOOD MUSIC AND A SONG THAT WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD NO MATTER WHAT YEAR IT IS, IF YOU DO SOMETHING THAT'S SO GOOD THAT IT'S GOOD NOW AND GOOD TEN YEARS FROM NOW AND GOOD 20 YEARS FROM NOW, IF IT'S THAT GOOD, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE GOOD.

IT'S QUALITY.

I LEFT MY HEART IN SAN FRANCISCO.

THAT WAS A BIG ONE.

CERTAINLY THE BIG ONE, THE FAVORITE.

♪ I LEFT MY HEART

I IMAGINE WHEREVER YOU PERFORM, THEY EXPECT YOU TO SING THAT SONG.

RIGHT.

DOES IT EVER AS A PERFORMER, DO YOU EVER GET TIRED OF BEING ASKED TO SING 'I LEFT MY HEART IN SAN FRANCISCO'? DOES IT EVER TIRE --

NEVER.

NEVER AT ALL?

NEVER.

I LOVE THE CITY.

I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

WHEN I SING IT, I TRY TO SHOW PEOPLE WHAT A WONDERFUL CITY THAT IT IS.

SO MUCH SO THAT I DECIDED NOT TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE I WOULD BE BOTHERED BY ALL OF THE PEOPLE THERE.

SO YOU GOT TO ENJOY IT FROM A DISTANCE.

WHEN I GO THERE, IT'S A BIG MOMENT FOR ME.

FOR SO MANY YEARS NOW, YOU HAVE BEEN PAINTING AND YOU'VE BEEN SINGING.

DO YOU SEE A CONNECTION BETWEEN YOUR ART AND YOUR MUSIC?

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

WHAT KIND OF CONNECTION?

IT'S AN ART FORM.

MUSIC AND ART.

AND IT'S SO GREAT TO BE SWIMMING AROUND IN ALL OF THAT.

IT'S A WONDERFUL FEELING.

DO YOU STILL GET TO PAINT EVERY DAY OR ALMOST EVERY DAY?

EVERY DAY.

WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT TO DO THAT EVERY DAY?

YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP GROWING.

YOU WANT TO IMPROVE.

YOU WANT TO SIMPLIFY IT.

SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY, TONY, YOU'RE 90, YOU DON'T NEED TO KEEP GROWING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SO WHY DO YOU WANT TO KEEP GROWING?

I'M 90 BUT I'M JUST STARTING OUT.

THERE IS THAT MUCH TO LEARN.

A LOT MORE THAT YOU CAN DO.

THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO GET BETTER AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

WELL, IT'S BEEN A FASCINATING JOURNEY, OF COURSE, AND WE'RE ALSO THRILLED IN SOMEWAY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPANY YOU ON THIS JOURNEY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TALKING WITH BOTH OF YOU.

BOTH BE WELL.

THANK YOU, JACK.

WE ALL CONGRATULATE TONY BENNETT ON RECEIVING THE PRIZE FOR POPULAR SONG AND WISH HIM AND HIS WIFE A GOOD LIFE.

AGAIN, YOU CAN WATCH THE PBS MUSICAL SPECIAL HONORING TONY BENNETT JANUARY 12th AT 9:00 P.M.

CHECK YOUR LOCAL LISTINGS.

> IT IS THE RETURN OF THE LOYALS AS SEASON TWO OF THE HIT DRAMA SERIES 'VICTORIA' PREMIERES JANUARY 14th AT 9:00 P.M. ON PBS.

THE STORY OF YOUNG QUEEN VICTOR I WHO WANTS IT ALL.

CAPTIVATED MORE THAN 16 MILLION VIEWERS.

JENNA FLANAGAN HAD THE CHANCE TO CHAT WITH THE WRITER, CREATOR AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND FAMED ACTOR ROOFIS WHO RETURNS AS LORD MELBOURNE.

THE FIRST PRIME MINISTER AND FRIEND.

SHE BEGAN BY ASKING WHERE DO WE FIND VICTORIA AS THE NEW SEASON BEGINS?

SHE'S JUST HAD HER FIRST CHILD, AND SHE'S COMING BACK AS IT WERE FROM MATERNITY LEAVE BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN IN CONFINEMENT FOR SIX WEEKS, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED AFTER YOU HAD A BABY.

YOU WERE BASICALLY WHEELED AROUND IN A BATH CHAIR, AND SHE'S COME BACK TO FIND THAT HER HUSBAND ALBERT HAS BEEN RATHER TOO EFFECTIVE MATERNITY COVER WHILE SHE'S BEEN OFF.

THERE IS A FRICTION BETWEEN THEM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SHE'S WANTING TO COME BACK AND TAKE UP THE REIGNS BUT SEEMS A LITTLE TOO COMFORTABLE SITTING ON HER THROWN.

IN A WORD THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME WHEN THINKING ABOUT THIS SERIES IS FEMINISM.

WE SEE VICTORIA STRUGGLING BETWEEN MARRIAGE, FAMILY AND HER JOB, WHICH IS OF COURSE, LEADING A COUNTRY.

WAS THAT INTENTIONAL?

THAT ACCIDENTAL THAT THAT BECAME SUCH A PROMINENT PART OF THE SCRIPT?

OH, DOEFINITELY.

THAT'S A REASON I LOVE WRITING ABOUT VICTORIA.

MANY OF THE DILEMMAS SHE FACES IS ONE MOST MODERN WOMEN FACE, WHICH IS HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH A HUSBAND WHEN YOU'RE MAKING MORE MONEY THAN HE IS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR, YOU KNOW, WHO LOOKS AFTER THE CHILDREN WHEN YOUR JOB IS MORE IMPORTANT, ET SCETERA AND HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT MASCULINE PRIDE WHEN YOU'RE THE BOSS?

I THINK SHE ALSO FEELS A LITTLE BIT IN OR OF IT BECAUSE HE'S SO INTELLIGENT AND SO GOOD AT EVERYTHING.

SHE'S FEELING HOW DO I, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S MY ROLE IN THIS AND HOW CAN I PROVE WHAT I CAN DO.

THAT'S A REASON SHE GOES TO SEE HER MENTOR LORD MELBOURNE FOR ADVICE ON THIS VERY MATTER.

HOW DOES THEIR RELATIONSHIP CHANGE NOW THAT SHE'S OLDER AND MORE MATURE?

I THINK HE FITS INTO IT NEATLY, ACTUALLY.

MORE NEATLY THAN PERHAPS HE MIGHT HAVE DONE THE FIRST SEASON.

THE THING ABOUT LORD MELBOURNE BECAUSE OF HIS MOTHER, HIS MOTHER WAS A REALLY INTELLIGENT, INDEPENDENT, FEISTY WOMAN AND HIS FATHER WAS QUITE WIDELY KNOWN.

THE RULER OF THE FAMILY WAS THE MOTHER.

HE DREW UP WITH AN ENORMOUS RESPECT AND ATTRACTION TOWARD A VERY, VERY STRONG INDEPENDENT INTELLIGENT WOMEN.

THAT WAS HIS WEAK SPOT.

ALL OF THE TROUBLE SPOTS IN HIS LIFE WERE BECAUSE HE GOT INVOLVED WITH WOMEN WHO GOT INTO TROUBLE AND HE WAS CONNECTED WITH THEM AND GREAT SUPPORTERS OF THEIRS.

SO IT WAS VERY SECOND NATURE FOR HIM WHEN VICTORIA COMES TO HIM TO SAY THIS IS THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING BE MY HUSBAND TO BE ABLE TO IN THE NEW RELATIONSHIP, WHICH IS LESS COMPLICATED NOW, TO BE ABLE TO SAY IT'S NOT UNLIKE A MAN TO BE THREATENED BY A WOMAN.

IT'S NOT -- HE WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST MAN TO UNDER ESTIMATE A WOMAN AND TO ENCOURAGE HER FOR BEING WHO SHE IS BECAUSE NO DOUBT HE'S AN INTELLIGENT PERSON AND IN MANY WAYS, HE'S QUITE FORWARD THINKING IN THAT WAY.

I THINK SHE WAS ABLE, SHE HAD A VERY RELAXED RELATIONSHIP AND WHICH WAS SOMETHING SHE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE WITH ALBERT BECAUSE THEY HAD THE SAME SENSE OF HUMOR WHICH ALBERT WITH HIS GORGEOUS ABILITY WAS NOT AS RELAXED OR FUNNY OR AS WHITTY AS MELBOURNE.

HE WAS ABLE TO GIVE ADVICE ON THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING.

WHAT.

Caller: COLOR DRESS TO WEAR AND COLOR DRESS TO WEAR AND DON'T WEAR EARRINGS AND HE WOULD TELL HER SHE'S PUTTING ON WEIGHT.

I LOVE PERIOD DRAMAS AND IT SEEMS AS IF WE'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF PIECES POP UP IN THE MEDIA LATELY AND I'M WONDERING IF MAKING OR AS A HISTORIAN GOING BACK AND LEARNING ABOUT AND RESEARCHING THESE DIFFERENT ERAS, DOES IT HELP US UNDERSTAND OR MAKE SENSE OF THE TIME WE LIVE IN NOW BECAUSE THIS PAST YEAR 2017 HAS BEEN SO TRYING FOR EVERYONE BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALL MOST HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT TIME AND A DIFFERENT PLACE WHEN PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE LIVED THROUGH SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST AS OR EVEN MORE STRESSFUL AND TRYING AND MADE IT OUT THE OTHER SIDE.

THE THINGS I LOVE ABOUT VICTORIA IS SHE HAS CONTROL AND SHE'S A WOMAN WHO MAKES HER OWN DESTINY.

SHE'S NOT THE LOVE INTEREST.

SHE'S NOT THE KIND OF, SHE'S NOT THE VICTIM, SHE IS THE AUTHOR OF HER OWN FATE AND I THINK AT A TIME, ESPECIALLY NOW, WHEN WE GOT THIS HARASSMENT TSUNAMI, IT'S NICE TO SEE A WOMAN WHO IS IN CHARGE OF HER DESTINY.

WELL, I'M SURE THE BOTH OF YOU HAVE STUDIED THE VICTORIAN ERA HAS MANY OF US HAVE AND I'M WONDERING IF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING A SERIES LIKE VICTORIA GAVE EITHER ONE OF YOU A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIME AND THE PERIOD IN WHICH A LOT OF THESE EVENTS OCCURRED BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE SO MUCH OF OUR MODERN ERA RIGHT NOW HAS ECHOED, IF YOU WILL, OF THE PAST IN IT AS WE GO THROUGH AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THROUGH OUR OWN TRYING TIMES.

BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, THOUGH, I'LL ASK YOU BOTH TO HANG ON AND I'M GOING TO INVITE ALL OF OUR METRO FOCUS VIEWERS TO JOIN US ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE AT METRO FOCUS OR AT METROFOCUS.ORG WHERE WE'LL CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT ALL THINGS VICTORIA.

IF YOU'RE SUPER EAGER TO SEE SEASON TWO OF 'VICTORIA' YOU'RE IN LUCK.

THE SEASON PREMIERES JANUARY 14th AT 9:00 P.M. EASTERN, 8:00 P.M. CENTRAL ON MASTERPIECE ON PBS.

FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY.

Funders

MetroFocus is made possible by James and Merryl Tisch, Sue and Edgar Wachenheim III, the Sylvia A. and Simon B. Poyta Programming Endowment to Fight Anti-Semitism, Bernard and Irene Schwartz, Rosalind P. Walter, Barbara Hope Zuckerberg, Jody and John Arnhold, the Cheryl and Philip Milstein Family, Janet Prindle Seidler, Judy and Josh Weston and the Dr. Robert C. and Tina Sohn Foundation.

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