ELECTION NIGHT FALLOUT

Following the election, which resulted in the landslide victory of incumbent Mayor Bill de Blasio, we address the national implications of his re-election to a second term as New York City’s mayor.

Aired on November 8, 2017.

TRANSCRIPT

> AMERICA GOT A LITTLE FAIRER TONIGHT.

AMERICA GOT A LITTLE BLUER TONIGHT.

AND TONIGHT NEW YORK CITY SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE WHITE HOUSE, AS WELL.

OUR MESSAGE WAS THIS, YOU CAN'T TAKE ON NEW YORK VALUES AND WIN, MR. PRESIDENT.

IF YOU TURN AGAINST THE VALUES OF YOUR HOMETOWN, YOUR HOMETOWN WILL FIGHT BACK.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO 'METROFOCUS.'

I'M RAFAEL PI ROMAN.

BILL DE BLASIO COMPLETED A LANDSLIDE VICTORY SECURING A SECOND TERM AS MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY.

TOUTING HIS PROGRESSIVE AGENDA AND HIS COMMITMENT TO CHALLENGING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE INCUMBENT OVERWHELMED HIS OPPONENT.

A FEW SURPRISES DOWN BALLOT BUT ON LONG ISLAND SWEEPING CHANGES WITH TWO KEY POSITIONS, COUNTY EXECUTIVE TURNING OVER TO DEMOCRATS.

IN THE RACE TO REPLACE CHRIS CHRISTIE PHIL MURPHY DEFEATED WHILE THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION REMAINS IN THE HANDS OF DEMOCRATS WHILE RALPH NORTHAM.

PLENTY TO DISCUSS WITH OUR PANEL.

WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.

SO PRETTY MUCH THINGS WENT AS EXPECTED IN THE MAYORAL RACE AS THE POLLS PREDICTED.

BUT INTERESTING IMPLICATIONS IN THE RACE.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT.

LET ME START WITH THE RACE AS I MENTIONED IN THE INTRODUCTION.

THE DEMOCRAT BEAT REPUBLICAN JACK MARTINS.

AND ALSO THE COMP TROLLER THERE, AND IN WESTCHESTER I THINK THAT IS A BIG ONE.

SO THESE ARE CONSIDERED SURPRISES.

AT THE VERY LEAST THEY ARE SIGNIFICANT.

HOW SIGNIFICANT?

I AM SURPRISED BY THE MARGIN IN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY RACE.

. I THINK THAT IS ONE IMPLICATION IS IT TAKES A POTENTIAL CHALLENGER FOR GOVERNOR CUOMO.

I HESITATE TO READ INTO LOCAL RACES THAT EXPRESS LOCAL DYNAMICES AND INVOLVE INDIVIDUAL LOCAL PEOPLE TO SAY ANYTHING BIGGER ABOUT POLITICS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COUNTY EXEC RACES SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE STATE BUT THEY ARE CERTAINLY INTERESTING DEVELOPMENTS.

I THINK THE MAYOR IS RIGHT IN HIS INTRO THAT THE WORLD WILL GET BLUER AND WILL STAY THAT WAY IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND THREE YEARS.

LET ME MAKE THE LEAP THAT JARED HAS THE GOOD SENSE NOT TO.

PART OF A BLUE WAVE.

ON THE TWO COASTS OF THE UNITED STATES IT IS BECOMING MORE DEMOCRATIC.

I DON'T THINK THIS MEANS ANYTHING FOR THE SOUTH OR MIDWEST OR ALL OF THOSE SQUARE STATES IN THE MIDDLE.

BUT FROM NEW JERSEY TO VIRGINIA WHICH, BY THE WAY, IS A MID ATLANTIC STATE AND NOT REALLY A SOUTHERN STATE ANYMORE, FROM NOT ONLY THE CITY OF NEW YORK BUT SUBURBS DEMS HAVE LOTS OF ADVANTAGES.

WE SAW THE ROMPING YESTERDAY AND I THINK WE CAN GET MORE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

I THINK THAT WESTCHESTER CASE IS A REAL BIG IMPACT IN THE GOVERNOR'S RACE.

I THINK THE LAST TIME AROUND GOT 41%. HE COULD BE OUT OF THE PICTURE NOW.

LOOK AHEAD TO 2020 PEOPLE THINK HE WANTS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

THIS LOOKS EASIER FOR HIM.

DO YOU THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO IN A NATIONAL MINI BLUE WAVE OF THE DEMOCRATS?

IT FITS THE NARRATIVE.

I THINK THE BIG ISSUE WAS CORRUPTION.

BIG CASES.

THE INCUMBENT WHO CHOSE NOT TO RUN FOR ELECTION --

WAS INDICTED.

HE WAS CONVICTED.

AND BOTH WERE TRYING TO MAKE THE CASE THAT THEY WERE STRONGER ON CORRUPTION.

SHE IS I THINK MORE OF AN OUTSIDER.

MORE CLOSELY TIED.

IT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING.

ALWAYS SOME LOCAL DYNAMIC.

YOU CAN'T LOOK AT EVERYONE OF THESE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THOSE REGIONS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND NOT SEE THAT THERE ARE PATTERNS THERE.

SO LET'S TURN TO THE MAYORAL RACE.

YOU KNOW THE MARGINS WERE ACTUALLY LARGER THAN THEY WERE, THAN THE POLLS PREDICTED.

I'M LOOKING AT YOU BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

I WAS SURPRISED THAT THERE WERE NO SURPRISES ON THAT, THAT MAYOR DE BLASIO COVERED THE SPREAD, I GUESS, AND WINNING I THINK IT WAS 66-28.

A VERY SIZABLE MARGIN ON A NIGHT WHERE THE TURNOUT WAS ABOUT WHERE IT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO.

WHICH IS AN ALL-TIME LOW.

MAYBE SURPRISING.

IT WAS A COLD, HARD RAIN DURING VOTING HOURS.

PEOPLE CAME UP TO VOTE.

BUT I THINK WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THAT PEOPLE TURN TO THE FACT THAT THE TOTAL VOTE WAS LOWER.

THE MARGIN WAS SMALLER.

I THINK AS YOU MENTIONED THE BIG STORY PERHAPS --

MAYBE THAT IS THE REASON, BY THE WAY.

SO JOHN, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT THIS MARGIN OF VICTORY FOR THE MAYOR PLUS THE LOW TURNOUT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE MAYOR FOR HIS AGENDA?

FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

TO THAT POINT ONE THING IS REALLY INTERESTING I DON'T THINK DE BLASIO LAID OUT A LOT OF NEW INITIATIVES ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL T. IS MORE OF THE SAME OLD THING.

DID DOUBLE DOWN ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT NO REAL BIG NEW INITIATIVE.

WANTS TO EXPAND TO 3 K.

I THINK IT IS JUST GOING TO BE MORE OF THE SAME, NOT A REAL BIG MANDATE TO BEGIN WITH.

NOT A LOT THAT HE WAS CALLING FOR.

I THINK HE WANTS TO NATIONALIZE IT.

HE WANTS TO GIVE A BLUE SPEECH.

I DON'T JUST MEAN THE SUIT HE WAS WEARING IN THE OPEN.

THERE IS A REAL NEW LOCAL INITIATIVE.

FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW THIS IS ALL ABOUT PRESENTING HIMSELF AS A NATIONAL FIGURE IN THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY USING THE VOTE YESTERDAY AS PART OF HIS ARGUMENT THAT HE IS A BIG DEAL.

UNFORTUNATELY HE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE THAT.

IN JANUARY HE WILL BE A LAME DUCK IN EFFECT BECAUSE HE WILL BE TERM LIMITED AT THE END OF THE SECOND TERM.

DOES THAT WEAKEN HIM OR LIBERATE HIM TO LET HIS PROGRESSIVE FREE FLAG FLY?

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK IT DEPENDS ALSO ON WHAT A LOT OF OTHER OPERATORS IN GOVERNMENT DOES.

HE IS A LAME DUCK.

AS OF THIS MORNING EVERYONE ELSE IS THINKING ABOUT A NEW JOB IN 2021 BECAUSE BASICALLY EVERYBODY IS TERM LIMITED.

I THINK THAT THEN GOES TO THE QUESTION OF THE NATIONAL AMBITION AND WHETHER HE IS OR ISN'T GOING TO TRY FOR THAT.

THERE IS ALMOST A STRATEGIC IMPERATIVE TO KEEP THAT ALIVE BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU JUICE.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT PAST MAYORS, MAYOR BLOOMBERG WAS ALMOST CONSTANTLY RUNNING.

IT'S BEEN A THING THAT MAYORS DO BUT GIVES YOU A SENSE THAT YOUR CAREER IS NOT GOING TO END ON JANUARY 1, 2022.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC ADVOCATE AND THE COMPTROLER.

THEY WON.

THEY ARE TERM LIMITED.

THEY BOTH HAVE MAYORAL I CAN'T VOUCH FOR THAT.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO EFFECT THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN THEM AND THE MAYOR?

I THINK STRINGER STANDS OUT.

WHEN IT WAS LOOKING LIKE HE HAD A CHANCE TO JUMP IN THIS TIME AROUND HE WAS REALLY AGGRESSIVE, LOTS OF APPEARANCES.

WHEN THE PAY TO PLAY ALLEGATIONS WENT AWAY THERE WERE NO INDICTMENTS HE GOT QUIET AGAIN.

HE IS ONE OF THE KEY CHECKS ON THE MAYOR.

EXPECT HIM TO GET REAL AGGRESSIVE AND MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF.

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WAS THERE ANYWAY THAT THIS ELECTION WAS GOING TO TURN OUT ANY DIFFERENT?

COULD ANOTHER REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE HAVE THE CHANCE TO BEAT THE INCUMBENT DEMOCRAT OR HAS THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY AND CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CITY MADE THAT DIFFICULT?

I THINK THE LESSON WOULD BE THE BIG FOLKS CHICKENED OUT.

THERE WAS A PERIOD MAYBE WHERE DE BLASIO DID LOOK POTENTIALLY VULNERABLE.

ONCE HE WASN'T INDICTED --

EVEN SO, BOLD LEADERS STEP FORWARD AND TAKE ON BIG CHALLENGES.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE OF NEW YORK THERE WAS A LOT OF ISSUE.

THE NEXT THING TO PAY ATTENTION TO, COUNCIL SPEAKER.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

JUST EXPLAIN SHE WAS TERM LIMITED OUT OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THERE IS A NEW SPEAKER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

HOW WILL THAT CHANGE THE DYNAMIC WITH THE MAYOR?

THERE ARE EIGHT MEN, ALL MEN RUNNING FOR THAT POSITION WHICH IS NOTABLE.

AND I THINK THEIR POSITIONS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

THERE MAY BE DIFFERENCES HERE AND THERE.

IT IS A BIG QUESTION.

WILL IT BE SOMEONE THE MAYOR WANTS IN THAT POSITION.

HOW FRIENDLY WILL THAT PERSON BE WITH THE MAYOR?

HOW EASY WILL IT BE TO PASS LEGISLATION OR ALTERNATIVELY BLOCK LEGISLATION?

HE HAS HAD A PRETTY GOOD SITUATION.

DOES HE HAVE A FAVORITE?

IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE END ON THIS?

I THINK HE IS BEING AT LEAST PRETTY QUIET ABOUT HIS PICK.

LAST TIME HE RUFFLED SOME FEATHERS.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ROUNDS OF THE COUNCIL SINCE.

I THINK HE WANTS TO BE CAREFUL OF THAT.

THIS WILL BE A ONE-TERM SPEAKER.

THAT MIGHT EFFECT WHAT THEY ARE THINKING IN TERMS TO THEIR DYNAMICS.

LET ME GO BACK.

SHE RAN A RESPECTABLE CAMPAIGN.

DOES SHE HAVE A POLITICAL FUTURE?

A LOT MORE PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT HER THIS MORNING THAN HAD HEARD OF HER SIX MONTHS AGO.

SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD CLOSE ANY OF THOSE DOORS.

SHE IS UP A LITTLE STEP.

YOU GUYS AGREE?

SHE IS YOUNG AND AMBITIOUS.

SHE DIDN'T EXACTLY LIGHT FIRE HERE.

SHE WORKED HARD.

SHE'S SMART.

SHE CLEARLY WAS THINKING ABOUT HER FUTURE MOST LIKELY IN STATEN ISLAND WHILE SHE COULDN'T KICK TOO FAR DOWN THE CURB.

I THINK THERE IS SOME FUTURE.

WE HAVE TO WRAP IT UP THERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.

WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

THANK YOU.

Funders

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