September 13, 2017: TONIGHT ON METROFOCUS

Mayor Bill de Blasio was victorious in his bid against other Democrats who wanted to take his job at City Hall.  Now, he faces off against Republican candidate Nicole Malliotakis.  We’ll have the latest on the race for Mayor, including the results of the other important local races. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, turning over antiquities after it’s learned they were stolen before they arrived in their collection.  A look at the behind the scenes detective work that goes in returning these artifacts to their rightful owners. City Comptroller Scott Stringer is on a mission to ensure that diversity reigns and all people are represented in corporate board rooms.  He’ll be here to tell us his plan. The folks at “NOVA” take us on a harrowing adventure:  death dive to Saturn.

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> TONIGHT ON METRO FOCUS, DID YOU VOTE?

MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO WAS VICTORIOUS FROM OTHER DEMOCRATS AS THEY TRY TO TAKE HIS JOB, NOW, THE FACEOFF IS BETWEEN THE POSSIBLE FIRST WOMAN MAYOR.

SAL GONZALES, THE FIRST ELECTED LATINO D.A. IN NEW YORK STATE, AND A DISGRACED MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE THE LATEST FROM LAST NIGHT, PRIMARY.

THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART IS TURNING OVER ITEMS, ABIDE THE SCENES WORK AT THE DETECTIVE WORK THAT GOES TO INVESTIGATING THE ARTIFACTS TO THE RIGHTFUL OWNER.

HE IS HERE WITH US PLAN.

AND THE FOLKS AT NOVA TAKE US ON A SHOCKING ADVENTURE IN DEATH DIVE TO SATURN, ALL THAT AND MORE AS METRO FOCUS STARTS RIGHT NO NOW.

> THIS IS 'METRO FOCUS.'

WITH RAPHAEL RAMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

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> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO METRO FOCUS, IN THE END IT WAS A LANDSLIDE VICTORY FOR MAYOR DE BLASIO WHO TOOK NEARLY 75 OF THE VOTE, WITH HIS NEAREST RIVAL, SAL ALBANESE, TAKING ONLY 15% OF THE VOTE.

HE SAID HE WANTS TO WORK HARD.

NO MATTER HOW MUCH GOOD I HAVE SEEN, I DO NOT ACCEPT THE STATUS QUO IN THIS TOWN.

WE HAVE GOT MORE TO DO, MY FRIENDS.

WE HAVE MORE TO DO.

I HAVE SEEN UP CLOSE THE CHALLENGES, TOO, I HAVE SEEN THE WAYS THAT WE NEED TO STILL BUILD A FAIRER CITY.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO STOP UNTIL WE BUILD THAT FAIRER CITY FOR EVERY NEW YORKER.

DE BLASIO HAS NOW SET TO FACE NICOLE MALLIOTAKIS, SHE RAN UNOPPOSED IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

SHE WILL JOIN US TOMORROW TO TELL US HOW SHE PLANS TO PULL AN UPSET AGAINST THE HEAVILY FAVORED MAYOR.

AND GONZALES FENDING OFF FIVE CHALLENGES TO WIN THE NOMINATION FOR BROOKLYN DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND IN QUEENS, FRANCISCO MOYA DEFEATED MONSERRATE FOR A SEAT IN THE COUNCIL, MONSERRATE WAS LOOKING AT FRAUD FOR CAMPAIGN FUNDS, AND ASSAULTING HIS GIRLFRIEND.

JEFF, THE MAYOR, HE GETS NEARLY 75% OF THE VOTE YESTERDAY, 320,000 VOTES, MORE THAN 2013.

IS THIS THE KIND OF DECISIVE VICTORY HE WAS LOOKING FOR?

320,000 VOTES, SOUNDS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE UNTIL YOU REMEMBER THE CITY HAS 8.5 MILLION PEOPLE, 46% TURNOUT AMONG THE VOTERS, NOT NECESSARILY IMPRESSIVE, BUT THE CITY SAW IMPRESSIVE TURNOUTS WHEN BLOOMBERG CAME OUT UNOPPOSED.

SO HE WOULD HAVE LIKED FOR MORE PEOPLE TO TURN OUT, BUT 74% OF THE VOTE OF COURSE HE IS HAPPY.

SAL ALBANESE, THESE OTHER CHALLENGERS, HE WAS BATTING AWAY THE FLY.

THEY WERE NOT A CHALLENGE TO HIM.

HE DIDN'T MENTION THE OTHER CHALLENGERS, MALLIOTAKIS LOOKING AHEAD.

BUT WE'LL TALK --

OF COURSE HE MENTIONED TRUMP.

THAT IS WHO DE BLASIO THINKS HE IS RUNNING AGAINST.

IT IS PROBABLY A GOOD STRATEGY FOR HIM.

DONALD TRUMP HAS 18% FAVORABILITY IN NEW YORK CITY.

SO ANYWAY, DE BLASIO HAPPY WITH THE 74%, I WOULD THINK.

SAL ALBANESE, HIS MAIN CHALLENGER, WITH ONLY 15% OF THE VOTE.

YOU KNOW, NOT AN IMPRESSIVE SHOWING FOR ALBANESE.

SO IN NOVEMBER, THE MAJOR PARTY CANDIDATES WILL BE DE BLASIO AND NICOLE MALLIOTAKIS, AND THE STATE ASSEMBLYWOMAN FROM BROOKLYN, WHAT DOES SHE HAVE TO DO TO PULL OFF AN UPSET IN NOVEMBER?

WHAT CAN SHE DO?

GOOD FOR HER, SHE IS REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.

TALKING ABOUT THE HOMELESS ISSUE, HOW YOU SEE LOTS MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE ON THE STREETS, PEOPLE IN SHELTERS AS WELL.

SHE IS FOCUSING ON CRIME, EVERYONE KNOWS CRIME NUMBERS ARE DOWN, SHE IS REALLY FOCUSING ON SEX CRIMES.

THE GENERAL SEX CRIMES ARE TRENDING UP 20%, SOME SAY THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS BEING REPORTED MORE, PEOPLE ARE MORE COMFORTABLE COMING FORWARD BUT I MEAN SHE DOES HAVE THE NUMBERS ON HER SIDE, SEX CRIMES, RAPE, SLIGHTLY TRENDING UP IN DE BLASIO'S TENURE.

SO SHE IS REALLY HONING IN ON THAT.

ANY LESSONS SHE COULD HAVE PICKED UP FROM SAL ALBANESE?

IT'S HARD TO SAY, WITH SAL ALBANESE ONLY GETTING 15% -- HARD TO DO.

ONE THING THAT IS CLEAR, ALBANESE WENT AFTER THE ETHICS ISSUE.

SEEMS LIKE IT IS ALREADY BAKED IN THE CAKE.

THE PRIMARY VOTERS SAY OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND BUT THAT IS NOT IMPORTANT.

OTHER THINGS ARE IMPORTANT, AS I SAID THE MAYOR TOUTED SOME OF HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE KIND OF IMPRESSIVE, AT LEAST ON PAPER.

DE BLASIO HAS A LOT OF CRITICS OUT HERE, EVEN AMONG DEMOCRATS, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE WAY HE CARRIES HIMSELF.

PEOPLE THINK HE HAS ETHICS ISSUES.

THE POWER OF INCUMBENTS IS THE MOST LIKELY THING TO GET YOU REELECTED.

ANY SURPRISES ON THE CITY COUNCIL?

WELL, THE ONLY SURPRISE I'M STILL FOLLOWING IS THE CITY COUNCIL IN HMANHATTAN, THAT RAC HAS NOT BEEN CALLED YET.

TOO CLOSE TO CALL, AHEAD 200 VOTES OVER CHALLENGER CHRISTOPHER MARTE.

SHE WILL BE THE ONLY INCUMBENT TO LOSE IF SHE DOES INDEED LOSE.

EXACTLY, I THINK SHE IS CONFIDENT SHE IS HOLDING ON, LIKE I MENTIONED WITH DE BLASIO, THE POWER OF INCUMBENTSY IS SO STRONG.

THE OTHER CITY COUNCIL BASE WE'RE LOOKING AT I MENTIONED IN THE INTRODUCTION, IS MOYA VERSUS MONSERRATE, HE WENT TO JAIL, AS I MENTIONED, FOR FRAUD AND HIM BEATING UP HIS GIRLFRIEND.

THERE WAS A VIDEO OF HIM DOING THAT.

HOW DID HE -- THAT WAS A CLOSE RACE.

I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER CASE, I MEAN, I THINK HE WON 45% OF THE VOTES.

THAT IS ANOTHER CASE OF INCUMBENTSY.

HE WAS NOT THE INCUMBENT, HE WAS OUT OF OFFICE FOR A WHILE, BUT A KNOWN ENTITY, ON THE BALLOT FOR A WHILE, PEOPLE KNEW HIM FROM BEFORE.

HE HAD AN IMPRESSIVE GROUND GAME, A LOT OF PAID STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE TRYING TO GET VOTES.

I MEAN, FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN ARRESTED AND ACTUALLY SENT TO JAIL FOR POLITICAL CORRUPTION, FOR PART OF HIS JOB IT WAS ACTUALLY AN IMPRESSIVE SHOWING FOR THE GUY.

BUT NOT ENOUGH.

AND I THINK ALL THE CITY'S POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT IS JUST BREATHING A SIGH OF RELIEF.

FRANCISCO MOYA, AN IMPRESSIVE GUY?

OH, YEAH, HE IS WELL LIKED, GOT THE ENDORSEMENT OF DE BLASIO, OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ALL THE LABOR UNIONS.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF HE DIDN'T HAVE TO BE AN IMPRESSIVE GUY, HE JUST WAS NOT MONSERRATE.

AND CITY COUNCIL MARINO WILL NOT BE RETURNING, DID THIS HELP ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO HELP HER AS COUNCIL SPEAKER.

THAT IS TOUGH TO TELL, I SPOKE TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE SPEAKER RACE.

AND IT'S REALLY -- IT'S GOING TO BE SOME TIME BEFORE IT SHAPES UP.

IT'S -- THERE IS A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS THAT WILL BE JOINING THE PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS.

THE MORE LEFT LEANING SIDE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND THEY MAY TRY AND KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND VOTE --

WHO ARE THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE LEADING FOR SPEAKER?

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH THEIR NAMES IN THE RING, THE LEADING ONES ARE COREY JOHNSON, MARK LEVINE, RITCHIE TORRES IN THE BRONX, THOSE THREE ARE THE LEADING CANDIDATES AND IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIME.

FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE KNOWING ABOUT A CITY COUNCIL SPEAKER UNTIL DECEMBER.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BROOKLYN DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S RACE.

E AARON GONZALES WAS ACTIVE, HE WON HANDILY, AND RAN AGAINST FIVE PEOPLE, STILL GOT OVER 50%. IS THAT A BIG DEAL?

I SURE THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL.

I WAS AT HIS ELECTION PARTY LAST NIGHT.

HIS BOROUGH WIDE BROOKLYN IS THE BIGGEST BOROUGH, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OUT STUMPING FOR HIM TO TRY AND GET HIM -- MOVE HIM FROM ACTING D.A. TO FULLY ELECTED D.A.

FIRST LATINO D.A. IN THE ENTIRE STATE.

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THERE WAS NOT ONE BEFORE.

ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW THE THING ABOUT D.A.s, THEY'RE IN OFFICE FOR A LONG TIME.

EVEN AS THE DEMOGRAPHICS SHIFT IN NEW YORK, IT'S A LITTLE SLOWER.

SO HE WILL CONTINUE THE THOMPSON POLICIES?

THAT IS WHAT HE RAN ON, CHARLES HYNES, THE OLD D.A. THAT RAN IN 2013, HE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES, SUCH AS WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS, SO YEAH, KEN THOMPSON TOOK OVER IN 2013.

HE PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR FROM CANCER AND THAT IS WHAT ERIC GONZALES WAS RUNNING ON, TO CARRY ON THOSE PROGRESSIVE REFORMS AND CARRY ON IN THE BROOKLYN D.A. OFFICE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TALKING TO US.

AND TO REMIND YOU, TUNE IN TOMORROW FOR OUR INTERVIEW WITH NICOLE MALLIOTAKIS, THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR NEW YORK CITY MAYOR.

> IN 2014, NEW YORK CITY'S COMPTROLLER SCOTT STRINGER, LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM AIMED AT CORPORATIONS TO DISCLOSE THE DIVERSITY OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS.

THE INITIATIVE'S GOAL WAS TO GIVE MORE POWER TO THE VEINVEST, TO CHOOSE WHO WAS ELECTED.

NOW HE IS ANNOUNCING A 2.4 VERSION OF THIS PROJECT, CALLING FOR MORE COMPANIES TO MAKE THEIR BOARD ROOMS MORE DIVERSE, INDEPENDENT AND CLIMATE COMPETENT.

HERE WITH THE DETAILS IS SCOTT STRINGER.

GREAT TO BE BACK.

ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE YOU, WHY ARE WE GOING 2.0 WITH THIS BOARD ROOM INITIATIVE?

WELL, BECAUSE 1.0 WAS VERY SKECHL.

JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE HAD SIX COMPANIES IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ALLOWED FOR PROXY ACCESS FOR THE RIGHT TO RUN INDEPENDENT DIRECTORS SO THAT SHARE OWNERS, THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT, THE FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS, CITY WORKERS, IF THEY'RE CONCERNED, WE'RE CONC -- OR WERE CONCERNED, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO RUN A DIRECTOR, WHICH HAS BEEN STOPPED.

WE STARTED THIS CAMPAIGN NATIONALLY WITH OTHER PENSION FUNDS.

SIX COMPANIES ALLOW US TO DO THIS TODAY.

OVER 400 HAVE NOW GIVEN US A RIGHT TO RUN AN INDEPENDENT DIRECTOR THANKS TO OUR NATIONAL CAMPAIGN.

I DON'T WANT TO STOP THERE.

WE NOW WANT TO GO TO 2.0 WHICH IS NOW GOING BACK TO THOSE ISSUES THAT ALLOW US TO RUN INDEPENDENT DIRECTORS AND SAY TO THEM WE NEED DATA FROM YOU TO TELL US THE DIVERSITY OF YOUR BOARDS.

THE MAKEUP OF YOUR BOARDS AND WE'RE DEMANDING AND ASKING FOR THE FOLLOWING.

WE WANT TO KNOW THE SKILLS OF YOUR BOARD MEMBERS, THEIR EXPERIENCE, THEIR AGENDA, AND WE WANT TO KNOW THE RACE.

BECAUSE THE FACT IS THAT 70% OF CORPORATE BOARDS ARE MADE UP OF WHITE MEN, JUST 21% HAVE WOMEN ON BOARD.

5% AFRICAN-AMERICAN, 3% ASIAN, 2% LATINO.

THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS.

HOW IS THIS NOT GOVERNMENT REACHING TOO FAR?

I MEAN, THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO HEAR ABOUT IT, SAYING THIS IS RIDICULOUS.

THIS IS NOT GOVERNMENT'S BUSINESS.

HOW A BUSINESS IS RUN, IF THE BUSINESS IS TURNING A PROFIT THAT IS ALL THAT SHOULD MATTER TO YOU AND FOR THE PENSION HOLDERS.

WELL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMPANY WE'RE INVESTING IN DOES DO WELL AND DOES MAKE MONEY.

PART OF BEING A FIDUCIARY, THE NEW YORK CITY RETIREMENT SYSTEM IS THE FOURTH LARGEST IN AMERICA, 14th LARGEST IN THE WORLD.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARDS ARE COMPETENT.

BECAUSE WE WANT MANAGE EVERY COMPANY WE INVEST IN.

WHAT ABOUT CLIMATE COMPETENT BOARDS TO SEE THE CHANGING WINDS, LITERALLY, OF THOSE ENERGY COMPANIES.

WE WANT TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF THIS, AND YES THERE IS A CIVIL RIGHTS COMPONENT OF THIS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUNG WOMEN OF COLOR GO TO A UNIVERSITY, AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO REACH THE CORPORATE BOARD LEVEL, BUT YET THEY GET STUCK IN THE ELEVATOR.

UNFORTUNATELY, DIVERSITY HAS BECOME A BUZZ WORD, PEOPLE THROW IT AROUND, DIVERSITY, DIVERSITY.

WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT ETHNIC BACKGROUNDS, AGE, SEX, WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT IN A SETTING?

WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT QUESTION, BECAUSE THERE IS REAL REASONS WHY DIVERSITY STRENGTHENS COMPANIES, AND HERE IS WHY.

WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON A BOARD WITH THE SAME LIFE EXPERIENCES, THEY GREW UP IN THE SAME TOWN, WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOLS, HAVE THE SAME LIFE EXPERIENCES, THEN AS A BOARD THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE THE SAME DECISIONS.

WE LIKE DIVERSITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE COME FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES IN LIFE.

IT CREATES BALANCE ON THE BOARDS.

AND YES, WE DON'T WANT TO THROW DIVERSITY AROUND FOR DIVERSITY'S SAKE.

WE ACTUALLY WANT DIVERSITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE RETIREMENT SECURITY OF THE PEOPLE I REPRESENT WILL BE STRONGER WHEN YOU HAVE DIVERSE OPINIONS, LIFE EXPERIENCE, SKILL SET, GENDER, RACE, AND WE'RE IN THE 21st CENTURY.

OF COURSE, I DID NOTICE THAT YOU MENTIONED THE COMPETENCY AND SKILL SET THAT IS BROUGHT TO THIS THAT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE PERHAPS WE STOP WITH THE NEPOTISM.

BECAUSE THAT IS ALSO AN ISSUE WITH A LOT OF BOARD ROOMS.

ITS HARD TO CRACK THE BOARD ROOM, BECAUSE PART OF IT IS YOU SCRATCH MY BACK I'LL SCRATCH YOUR BACK.

EVEN IN AN ERA WHERE WE WANT INDEPENDENT DIRECTORS, A LOT OF TIMES THE GOLFING BUDDY SAYS I WANT TO BE A GOLFER --

AND NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE ON THE GOLF COURSE.

THE REAL CHALLENGE IS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS AND SOCIETY.

AND SAY LOOK, WE DO HAVE THE MOST DIVERSE POPULATION, A LOT OF THE PENSION FUND RETIREMENT SECURITY IS FOR ALL PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, AND YET PEOPLE SHOULD NOT FEEL THAT ONLY A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY CAN GET TO THE CORPORATE BOARD LEVEL.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PLAYING FIELD IS LEVEL.

THE ELEVATOR SHOULD STOP ON THE TOP FLOOR FOR EVERYBODY.

NO ONE IS SUGGESTING A PASS OR YOU KNOW, AN EXPRESS ELEVATOR.

BUT YOU CAN'T CONTINUE TO BLOCK WOMEN, PEOPLE OF COLOR, PEOPLE WHO VERY MUCH HAVE THE SKILLS AND THE ABILITY TO HELP TR TRANSFORM COMPANIES, BUT THEY LITERALLY HAVE BEEN CUT OUT.

WE'RE ASKING FOR DATA IN A WAY IT'S NEVER BEEN ASKED FOR.

WE STARTED ASKING FOR CORPORATE ACCOUNTABILITY, AND BOARD ROOM QUESTIONS, PENSIONS, WE'RE GOING TO GO DEEP AND SAY LOOK WE NEED THIS DATA BECAUSE WE WANT TO HELP YOU DIVERSIFY YOUR BOARDS AND HAVE THOSE STRATEGIES.

HAS THERE BEEN PUSH ON YOUR END TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE?

I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE SMART COMPANIES REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE DIVERSITY AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF CORPORATE AMERICA YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE STRONGER COMPANIES.

THIS IS ALMOST -- THIS IS FACT, THIS IS NOT OPINION.

AND THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE GET THERE?

I'M NOT HERE TO BLAME A COMPANY.

YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE BEEN ALL MALE, THEY HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THESE ISSUES, MY JOB NOW IS TO GET YOU TO THINK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO BETTER IN THIS PLAYING FIELD I KNOW THAT I'M DOING MY JOB AS A FIDUCIARY OF PEOPLE'S RETIREMENT SECURITY.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE 715,000 PEOPLE BOTH IN THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM OR SOON WHO WILL BE.

I WANT TO GIVE THEM THE BEST SHOT THEY HAVE OF A FINANCIAL RETIREMENT.

THAT THEY HAVE EARNED, GIVEN YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY, WHETHER YOU'RE A POLICE OFFICER, FIREFIGHTER, TEACHER, THAT IS THE JOB OF CONTROLLER.

BUT THROUGH THAT I HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO CHALLENGE BOARDS THAT WE INVEST IN, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, THE REALITY IS I CAN'T MANAGE EVERY COMPANY AND LOOK AT THOUSANDS OF INVESTMENTS EVERY DAY.

SO WE NEED STRONG CORPORATE BOARDS THAT I CAN PUT MY TRUST IN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING BOTH IN TERMS OF EXECUTIVE COMPENSATION, CLIMATE CHANGE, DIVERSITY, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE OUR COMPANIES STRONG AND OUR PENSION FUNDS STRONG.

LISTEN, CONTROLLER STRINGER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EXPLAINING WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WHEN PEOPLE HEAR DIVERSITY, THEY'RE KIND OF AT THIS POINT LIKE WHY, BUT YOU MADE A STRONG CASE FOR IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING OUT WHAT YOU GET FROM 2.0.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

> FOR OVER A DECADE, THE CASINO SPACE PROBE HAS BEEN SENDING DAZZLING IMAGES OF SATURN'S BREATHTAKING WINDS AND MYSTERIOUS MOONS, WE TAKE A LOOK AS IT DIVES INTO SATURN.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT DEATH DIVE INTO SATURN.

IT REVEALS AMAZING NEW WORLDS.

IT'S ASTONISHING, JUST ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.

BUT NOW, A FIERY END APPROACHES.

IT'S ON A PATH TOWARDS DEATH.

FOLLOW CASINI'S FINAL MOMENTS, WITH UP TO THE MINUTE COVERAGE.

THIS IS AN ADVENTURE.

DEATH DIVE TO SATURN ON NOVA.

NOVA'S DEATH DIVE TO SATURN AIRS AT 9:00 NOVEMBER 13th.

CHECK FOR MORE INFORMATION AND SUBSEQUENT AIRINGS.

> THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART HAS TURNED OVER TWO UNRELATED ANTIQUITIES FROM THEIR COLLECTION TO AUTHORITIES OVER CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE ITEMS WERE ORIGINALLY OBTAINED.

THE FIRST ITEM?

A 2300-YEAR-OLD VASE THAT WAS ON DISPLAY FOR DECADES, IT HAS BEEN LINKED TO A NOTORIOUS ART DEALER LINKED TO ANTIQUITIES YEARS AGO.

THE SECOND PIECE, A BULL'S HEAD, THOUGHT TO BE STOLEN FROM STORAGE IN LEBANON, DURING THE COUNTRY'S CIVIL WAR IN THE '80s.

WHAT HAPPENS NOW?

HOW DO MAJOR INSTITUTIONS LIKE THE MET END UP WITH ILL-GOTTEN GOODS, AND HOW CAN MISTAKES BE FIXED?

MUSEUMS ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS VERY QUESTION WITH MOUNTING PRESSURE TO DO SO.

HERE WITH US IS DUSTIN STEIN, WHO HAS SPENT YEARS RECOVERING WORKS STOLEN FROM FAMILIES DURING WORLD WAR II.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, HOW WIDESPREAD IS THIS PROBLEM?

UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY PREVALENT THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

I THINK ANY MUSEUM, OR MOST MUSEUMS THAT HAVE ANTIQUITIES WILL HAVE SOME SORT OF ILL-GOTTEN ANTIQUITIES BECAUSE THE PROCESS HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THOROUGH AND PEOPLE HAVE NOT ALWAYS VETTED THEIR OBJECTS AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO WHEN THESE VASES OR ANCIENT RELICS COME OUT OF A COUNTRY THAT IS EITHER WAR TORN OR DON'T HAVE STRONG GOVERNMENTS, WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THE PROVENANCE VERY WELL.

AND I WOULD IMAGINE A LOT OF THESE GO THROUGH AUCTIONS, DUE DILIGENCE, OTHER MEANS OF THE PROCESS.

HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?

ARE THERE FALSE PROVENANCES?

THERE ARE TWO WAYS, ONE WAY IS TO MAKE THEM UP.

IF YOU'RE SOMEONE WITH A QUESTIONABLE PAST AND YOU DEAL WITH ANTIQUITIES AND HAVE THE CHANCE TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ON ANTIQUITY, MAYBE YOU WOULD BE A LITTLE IMMORAL SAYING YOU RECEIVED AN ITEM THROUGH LEGAL CHANNELS IN GREECE OR ITALY OR MAYBE WHERE THE ANCIENT RELICS ARE FROM.

BECAUSE YOU STAND TO MAKE MONEY ON IT.

IT'S HARMLESS ERROR, SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BUYING.

THEY MAY HEAR A STORY OR THE STORY MAY GET MIXED UP.

SO PEOPLE WILL TAKE THE BUYER OR DONOR AT THEIR FACE VALUE.

SOMEBODY MAY SAY I WANT TO DONATE IT TO YOU, THIS IS HOW I RECEIVED IT.

THEY MAY HAVE A POWER AT THE MUSEUM SAYING TRUST ME ON THIS, I HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION, I DID THE VETTING FOR YOU.

THE OTHER QUESTION IS THE QUESTION OF PROVENANCE IS A RELATIVELY NEW IDEA, OVER THE LAST 20 AND 30 YEARS OF WHO OWNS THIS CULTURE.

SO MAYBE MUSEUM THINGS THAT WERE DONATED 20 OR 30 OR 40 YEARS AGO WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AS RESEARCHED AS THEY ARE TODAY.

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE VERY ORGANIZED.

WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DICI, THE NOTORIOUS ITALIAN ART DEALER BROUGHT UP ON CHARGES, WHEN SOMEBODY LIKE HIM DOES IT ON A WIDESPREAD LEVEL, THAT PROBABLY CREATES WIDESPREAD PROVENANCE, THEY HAVE NO IDEA THEY'RE INVOLVED IN ORGANIZED CRIME.

YES, THEY WILL POSSIBLY MAKE UP AS WE SAID EARLIER.

THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN SOMETHING OUT OF LEBANON BUT THEY WOULD SAY THEY GOT IT THROUGH EGYPT OR ANOTHER COUNTRY SO THERE IS NO WAY OF TRACKING IT BACK TO LEBANON GOVERNMENT OR TRACKING IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL GOVERNMENT TO SEE IF IT IS PART OF CULTURAL HERITAGE.

SO BY JUST CHANGING THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN THEY'RE CHANGING THE WAY WE RESTORE IT OR EVEN CHECK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE ARTWORK.

AND HE HAS PROBABLY SOLD OVER 3,000 OBJECTS.

SO THIS WOULD REALLY PUT AN ASTERISK ON MUSEUMS AND RELICS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

YOU MENTIONED CULTURAL HERITAGE, YOU HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE HIGH PROFILE, LIKE THE ELGIN MARBLES, AT THE BRITISH MUSEUM, THEY WERE SOLD BY GREECE WHILE IT WAS UNDER THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE, BY SOMEBODY WHO MAYBE WAS NOT NECESSARILY GREEK, AND THEY'RE HOLDING ON TO IT BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY HAVE APPROVAL TO DO SO.

SEEMS LIKE THERE IS A LOT MORE PRESSURE NOW THAN THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY TO REPETRIATE THESE ITEMS.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, CULTURAL AWARENESS IS BECOMING MORE PROMINENT.

THE EU IS CRACKING DOWN ON MORE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES, PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS NOT AS MUCH OF A PUSH FOR IT.

THERE WAS NOT NECESSARILY MUSEUMS THAT COVERED TO A THE ARCHEOLOGY OF A NATION.

TO CREATE A NATIONAL IDENTITY THESE HISTORICAL OBJECTS PLAY A ROLE.

SO WHAT CAN MUSEUMS DO TO PREVENT IT?

ARE THEY TAKING NEW STEPS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT FALLING INTO THIS TRAP?

I THINK THE DECADES HAVE STEPPED UP, WHERE MUSEUMS ARE HIRING MANY MORE PROVENANCE COLLECTIONS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHERE IT MAY HAVE BEEN BOUGHT ORIGINALLY OR DONORS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE DONORS GET IT.

IF YOU GOT A DONATION, YOU TOOK EVERYTHING IN AND PROBABLY DIDN'T DO MUCH RESEARCH, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT YOU RESEARCHED, BUT SOMETHING THAT WAS MAYBE 3,000 YEARS OLD YOU MAY NOT HAVE ANYBODY ABLE TO DO THE RESEARCH.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL SEE A LOT MORE CASES IN THIS YEARS TO COME.

THANK YOU, DUSTIN, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

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