October 24, 2016: Hamilton’s New Stars: Javier Muñoz & Lexi Lawson. End Poverty in NYC. Norman Lear: The Man Who Changed Television.

After 11 Tony awards, a Pulitzer Prize, and sold out shows until summer of 2017, it’s no doubt: Hamilton is Lin-Manuel Miranda’s biggest Broadway hit to date. In July, Miranda stepped away from the show and his role as the title character, Alexander Hamilton. The torch passed on to his alternate, Javier Muñoz, who has been stepping in as Hamilton since the show’s theatrical debut in 2015. Soon after Lin-Manuel announced his departure, others in the original cast stepped down from their roles, including Phillipa Soo, the Tony-nominated actress who played Elizabeth Schuyler, a role that’s since been taken over by Lexi Lawson. Both actors are no stranger to working in the vein of hip-hop musicals, as both have held roles in In the Heights at one point or another. Tonight, we sit down with both Javier and Lexi to discuss what it’s like to take over leading roles in what is being called a benchmark in Broadway history.

New York City, home to over 8 million residents, has a history of bringing people together across all religions, races, and social classes. Now, 3,000 religious leaders are preparing to gather at the Jacob Javits Center for this year’s Movement Day Global Cities, an annual conference that aims to address various issues facing New York and other major cities all around the world. In tonight’s Chasing the Dream: Poverty and Opportunity in America, Reverend Ebony Small, an elder at Bethel Gospel Assembly in Harlem and the director of Movement Day, gives us a preview of the conference and shares with us how poverty will be addressed at this year’s convention.

Meet the man who raised a generation and redefined comedy television in the 70’s. Norman Lear is best known for his hit shows like All in the Family, The Jeffersons and Sanford and Son; titles that laid the groundwork for a new era in sitcoms and created a format that would be reused for countless other shows. Lear is now the subject of the newest American Masters installment, Norman Lear: Just Another Version of You, and he takes some time out to sit down with us and discuss the documentary.

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> TONIGHT ON 'METROFOCUS,' HAMILTON'S NEW STARS RISE UP.

BUT FIRST THEY STOP BY FOR A LITTLE IMPROV AND MORE.

THOUSANDS OF CHURCH LEADERS ARE GATHER THING WEEK TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM AFFECTING TOO MANY AMERICANS.

FIND OUT WHY.

> AND NORMAN LEER MADE AMERICA LAUGH AND SQUIRM, ALL THE WHILE AFFECTING REAL SOCIAL CHANGE.

TONIGHT, MEET THE MAN WHO TRANSFORMED AMERICAN TELEVISION FOREVER.

ALL THAT AND MORE AS 'METROFOCUS' STARTS RIGHT NOW.

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> THIS IS 'METROFOCUS,' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FORD, AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

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> 'HAMILTON,' IT'S THE ONE WORD PHENOMENAL CREATING A REVOLUTION ON BROADWAY AND BEYOND.

WITH A GRAMMY AND SOLDOUT SHOWS TILL THE SUMMER OF 2017, IT IS AN UNPRECEDENTED BLOCKBUSTER WITH NO SIGNS OF SLOWING DOWN.

IN JULY, LEAD ACTOR AND COMPOSER LEFT THE PLAY AND JAVIER MUNOZ IS ALTERNATE SINCE THE DEBUT IN 2015 REPLACED HIM.

ANOTHER REPLACEMENT WHO STEPPED ON TO THE 'HAMILTON' STAGE IS LEXI LAWSON.

SHE ASSUMED THE ROLE OF HAMILTON'S WIFE, ELIZA SCHUYLEY HAMILTON.

HARD TO IMAGINE A TOUGHER ASSIGNMENT THAN TAKING OVER THE MOST FAMOUS MUSICAL IN BROAD KAY HISTORY.

BUT BY ALL ACCOUNTS, THEY HAVE MORE THAN ACCOMPLISHED THAT TASK AND JOIN ME NOW.

SUCH A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FREE TIME.

SO JAVIER, LET ME START WITH YOU.

TALKING ABOUT THE ROLE OF HAMILTON, HE SAID, I CAN'T OVERSTRESS IT, JAVIER AND I CREATED THE ROLE TOGETHER.

IT REALLY TOOK TWO PEOPLE TO MARK IT WORK.

I KNOW YOU SAID THE SAME THING A NUMBER OF TIMES.

HOW DID THAT WORK?

HOW DID YOU TWO CREATE THIS ROLE TOGETHER?

LYNN, OF COURSE, WROTE ALL THE MATERIAL AND IN THE ROOM WITH THOMAS KALE, OUR DIRECTOR, IT BECAME A PROCESS OF A LOT OF CONVERSATION.

NOT ONLY BETWEEN LYNN AND I BUT BETWEEN THE THREE OF US.

AND TOMMY REALLY GUIDING THE FLOW OF THE WORK.

SO LYNN WOULD GO UP THERE AND PLAY THE SCENE, ANDY IS PUTTING IT ON HIS FEET WITH TOMMY AND ALEX IS PUTTING IT -- GETTING EVERYONE -- EVERYONE IS PUTTING THEIR TWO CENTS IN TO CREATE THE ACTUAL SCENE.

I WATCH, I WATCH WHAT LYNN DOES.

I HEAR WHAT LYNN DOES, AND AT THIS POINT, VERY OFTEN I DON'T NEED TO HAVE TOO MUCH CONVERSATION WITH HIM.

I CAN LISTEN TO WHAT HE'S TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND UNDERSTAND AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION FROM THAT ALONE EVEN.

AND I TAKE THAT INFORMATION.

WE TAG EACH OTHER IN AND OUT.

I HEARD YOU SAY THAT.

WE REALLY DO.

YOU'RE UP.

AND THAT'S IT.

AND I GO UP AND WILL PLAY THE SCENE AGAIN.

LYNN WILL WATCH OR LYNN, TOMMY AND EVERYBODY WILL WATCH AND I'LL PUT MY LAYER ONTO WHAT LYNN JUST DID, AND WE TAG EACH OTHER AGAIN, AND JUST BACK AND FORTH.

THAT'S HOW WE BUILD THE THING.

SO YOU BUILD IT TOGETHER.

OF COURSE, YOU PLAY THE SAME CHARACTER, ONE ALEXANDER HAMILTON.

BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES.

OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE DIFFERENCES.

WHAT THERE UNIQUE CONTRIBUTIONS YOU HAVE MADE TO THIS PERFORMANCE?

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO JUST BEING WHO I AM, RIGHT?

AS AN ARTIST, ALL YOU CAN BRING TO A CHARACTER IS WHO YOU ARE AS A HUMAN BEING.

THE SUM OF YOUR EXPERIENCES AND ALL THAT YOU KNOW.

SO I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN MY VERSION AND HIS VERSION.

THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS ABOUT MARRYING THE TWO.

SO I DON'T SEE MUCH SEPARATION, BUT I DO KNOW WHAT I'M BRINGING TO IT IS JUST THE SUM OF WHO I AM.

OF COURSE, YOU'RE THE SEXY HAMILTON AS 'THE NEW YORK TIMES' SAID.

[ LAUGHTER ] SO LEXI, YOU TOOK OVER FOR PHILLIP.

WHEN YOU FOUND OUT THAT THE ROLE WAS YOURS, WAS IT A HAPPY THRILL FROM THE GET-GO, OR DID YOU HAVE A MOMENT OF TREPIDATION?

THAT IS WHAT I HAVE, AND I STILL DO.

OH, REALLY?

EVERY NIGHT I HAVE THAT MOMENT.

WHERE AM I, YOU KNOW?

BUT OF COURSE I WAS SO THRILLED AND EXCITED AND JUST BEING WITH EVERYBODY NIGHT AFTER NIGHT IS REALLY PHENOMENAL.

HOW DID YOU PREPARE FOR THE ROLE AND PHILLIP HELP YOU?

IT'S VERY MUCH THE SAME AS JAVIER'S PROCESS.

I BRING MYSELF TO THE CHARACTER FIRST AND I MARY WHAT I BELIEVE IS ELIZA HAL WITH MYSELF.

I FEEL LIKE MY ROLE, WE PLAYED OUR ROLES SEPARATE, OUR DIFFERENT WAYS OF PLAYING ELIZA HAMILTON, I FEEL LIKE SHE WAS A VERY COMPLEX PERSON IN GENERAL.

HER AND HAMILTON MET AT A VERY YOUNG AGE AND SHE LIVED TILL SHE WAS 97.

SOY FEEL LIKE I GET A REALLY LARGE ARC TO PLAY NIGHT AFTER NIGHT.

I WENT TO SEE THE PLAY WITH MY EXECUTIVE PRODUCER HERE, DAVE BROWN.

HE ARGUES THAT YOUR ROLE HAS TO BE ONE OF THE TOUGHEST TO ACT IN THE PLAY, BECAUSE YOU DO CHANGE.

YOUR CHARACTER CHANGES SO MUCH.

IT'S SUCH A WIDE GAMETE OF DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES AS YOU DEVELOP.

DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

ABSOLUTELY.

OF COURSE.

SHE'S A TEENAGER WHEN SHE STARTS THE SHOW, AND LIVES TO 97.

AND SHE BECOMES AN ACTIVIST.

SHE SURE DOES AND SHE LEAVES IN ALEXANDER HAMILTON AND SHE TELLS HIS STORY, AND IT SHOWS A LOT OF JUST BEING A COURAGEOUS, PASSIONATE, STRONG AND DETERMINED WOMAN AT THE END OF THE STORY.

AND IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL, BECAUSE AT THE END ALL SHE WANTS TO DO IS SEE ALEXANDER HAMILTON.

JAVIER, THE FIRST TIME YOU PLAYED HAMILTON ON BROADWAY, YOU WERE STILL AN ALTERNATE, OF COURSE.

PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS IN THE AUDIENCE.

YES.

SO HOW DID THAT HAPPEN AND HOW DID YOU REACT TO THE CHALLENGE?

WELL, I WAS ON MY WAY TO THE THEATER.

AND I GOT -- I'M ALREADY WAITING FOR THE TRAIN AND TOMMY, OUR DIRECTOR SENDS ME A TEXT AND HE ASKS ME TO MEET HIM IN THE MOUSE ONCE I ARRIVE.

SO I AM ON MY WAY, I'LL SEE YOU IN A LITTLE BIT.

OF COURSE, I GO INTO THE MINDSET, GREAT, WHAT DID I MESS UP THE LAST REHEARSAL?

WHAT DID I FORGET?

I'M GOING THROUGH ALL MY NOTES.

I'M THINKING IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A LECTURE OF SOME SORT OF, WE NEED MORE FROM YOU.

BUT OF COURSE, I GET THERE AND TOMMY AND LYNN ARE IN THE HOUSE AND I GO MEET THEM, AND THEY'RE EXPLAINING TO ME THAT THE PRESIDENT IS FINALLY DECIDED TO COME SEE THE SHOW, AND IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE MATINEE I'M GOING TO PERFORM.

AND IN MY HEAD IMMEDIATELY I THOUGHT, OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THEN LYNN WILL DO THE SHOW AND I'LL JUST START NEXT WEEK.

MAYBE I WILL GET TWO BEFORE WE OPEN AND THAT WILL BE THAT.

AS I'M THINKING THAT, TOMMY ENDS THE SENTENCE BY SAYING, WE STILL WANT YOU TO PERFORM, AND LYNN SAYS 'AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE GREAT.'

AND THAT WAS IT.

IT WAS DECIDED I WOULD STILL PERFORM.

AND I WAS EXCITED.

I WASN'T NERVOUS AT ALL.

IT WAS SO THRILLING TO JUST BE ON THE BROADWAY STAGE PERFORMING THAT ROLE IN THAT SHOW.

AND THEN TO HAVE THE PRESIDENT THERE.

IT WAS ELECTRIC.

IT WAS FIRE.

SO I REALLY DIDN'T FEEL THE NERVOUSNESS OR THE SORT OF IMPACT OF IT UNTIL THAT NIGHT.

I WAS LYING IN BED, THINKING WHAT JUST HAPPENED?

HE WENT BACKSTAGE DURING INTERMISSION.

WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU?

HE SHOOK MY HEAD.

HE WAS GOING THROUGH EVERYONE, AND I WAS JUST STAND THING WAITING FOR MY TURN, HE JUST TURNED TO ME, TOOK MY HAND, AND SAYS, YOU WERE GREAT.

AND KEPT GOING.

I THINK I PRETTY MUCH STOOD THERE AS HE KEPT GOING.

I'M LIKE, WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

IT WAS WONDERFUL.

BOTH OF YOU WORKED WITH HIM BEFORE, YOU WERE THE ALTERNATE AND YOU REPLACED HIM AND YOU WERE VANESSA, ONE OF THE LEAD CHARACTERS IN THE FIRST ROAD COMPANY.

SO HOW DID THAT PREPARE YOU TO DO 'HAMILTON'?

IT'S -- I THINK IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF PREPARATION THAT OCCURRED, IT'S THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP I HAVE WITH LYNN, WHICH IS GROUNDED IN OUR FRIENDSHIP, AND UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT KIND OF WORKING RELATIONSHIP, CREATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH ANYONE IN THIS INDUSTRY.

AND IT TAKES GREAT HUMILITY AND GREAT TRUST BETWEEN US TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A THING TOGETHER AND ALLOW FOR -- FOR HIM TO ALLOW ME TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH MY OWN IDEAS IS GENEROUS AND, YEAH, IT'S REALLY ROOTED IN OUR FRIENDSHIP.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT BEGAN, AND IT'S CARRIED OVER INTO 'HAMILTON' AND BECAME ELEVATED.

LEXI, WHAT ABOUT YOU?

I JOINED RIGHT AFTER I WAS DONE WITH 'RENT' AND PLAYING VANESSA WAS HONESTLY ONE OF MY DREAM ROLES.

I ALWAYS WANTED TO PLAY VANESSA.

I WILL NEVER FORGET, I PEEKED INTO THE AUDITION ROOM AND WALKED OUT.

I'M LIKE OKAY.

AND HOW I FELT THEN IS STILL HOW I FEEL ABOUT THEM NOW.

THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE.

THE CREATIVE TEAM, THEY'RE SO HONEST AND LOYAL AND KIND AND GENEROUS.

I COULDN'T BE MORE GRATEFUL.

THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS PLAY HAS BECOME A PHENOMENA.

EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.

IT'S BEYOND THE PHENOMENA OF BROADWAY, IT'S CULTURAL AND IT'S TRANSFORMING THE CONVERSATION.

DO YOU FEEL A SPECIAL RESPONSIBILITY BEYOND THE RESPONSIBILITY AS A SERIOUS PERFORMER?

I DO, I DO.

WE ARE TELLING HISTORY, AND I THINK THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO BE AS TRUTHFUL AS WE CAN.

I'M LEARNING TO NOT PUT AS MUCH PRESSURE ON MYSELF, BECAUSE I'M SURROUNDED BY MUCH WONDERFUL CASTMATES.

BUT I DO MEAL THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TELL THOSE STORIES AS TRUTHFUL AS I CAN EVERY NIGHT.

SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME.

AND YOU?

I THINK SPECIFICALLY FOR ME, THE THING I'M ALWAYS FEELING VERY -- A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR IS THE REPRESENTATION, DIVERSITY ON SAME, AND THE IMPACT IT'S HAVING ON THE INDUSTRY, THE IMPACT IT'S HAVING ON JUST THE DISCOURSE.

AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO JUST SHOW UP AND DO OUR JOB AND HAVE THAT BE A STATEMENT IN AND OF ITSELF.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY WONDERFUL THAT THIS CASTING REFLECTS OUR DAILY LIVES AND WHAT WE SEE IN AND OUT.

I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS.

YOU'VE BEEN VERY OPEN ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING WITH HIV OR HIV POSITIVE SINCE 2002 AND LAST YEAR YOU GOT AND LUCKILY SURVIVED CANCER.

HOW HAVE THESE EXPERIENCES INFORMED -- WELL, HOW HAVE THEY TRANSFORMED YOUR LIFE AND INFORMED THE WAY YOU PLAY THE ROLE?

GREATLY.

IMPACTED MY LIFE IN THE SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CLARITY OF WHAT REALLY MATTERS AND WHAT DOESN'T.

AND WHAT I'M GOING TO PUT MY ENERGY TOWARDS AND WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO.

AND NOT THE THINGS THAT I WON'T PUT MY ENERGY TOWARDS ARE BENEATH ME IN ANY WAY, IT'S JUST A CLARITY OF WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE TIME THAT I HAVE.

AND PLAYING HAMILTON, HIS RACE AGAINST TIME AND HIS IMAGINING DEATH WHEN THAT LINE HAPPENS TWICE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE MOST GENUINE I THINK I'VE EVER PLAYED A ROLE IN MY LIFE.

YOU CAN'T ESCAPE -- I CAN'T ESCAPE THE TRUTH IT TOUCHES WITHIN ME.

AND IT'S A GREAT GIFT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE AND GIVE THAT EXPERIENCE AND FEEL THE AUDIENCE COME WITH ME ON THAT EXPERIENCE, AS WELL.

LISTEN, I NEVER GOT TO SEE THE PLAY WHEN MANUEL AND PHILLIPA WERE IN IT.

BUT I FEEL INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL I GOT TO SEE IT WITH YOU GUYS IN IT.

I MEAN IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WONDERFUL WORK AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME HERE.

THANK YOU.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THE PLAY 'HAMILTON' LOGON TO METROFOCUS.ORG.

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> NEW YORK CITY IS HOME TO WORLD RENOWNED ARTS AND CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, FINANCIAL CENTERS, AND A GROWING INNOVATIVE TECH CENTER.

DESPITE THIS, IT'S ALSO THE EPICENTER OF INCOME INEQUALITY IN AMERICA WITH OVER 3 MILLION RESIDENTS LIVING IN POVERTY.

AN ANNUAL CONVERSATION AIMS TO ADDRESS THAT AND OTHER ISSUES BY BRINGING TOGETHER VARIOUS LEADERS ACROSS RELIGIOUS, EDUCATIONAL, GOVERNMENTAL AND BUSINESS SECTORS.

THEY DISCUSS THE PROBLEMS FACED IN OUR CITIES AND OTHER SOLUTIONS.

THIS CONVERSATION IS PART OF OUR ONGOING CHASING THE DREAM INITIATIVE, COVERING POVERTY AND OPPORTUNITY IN AMERICA.

JOINING ME TO DISCUSS THAT TOPIC IS REVEREND EBONY SMALL.

REVEREND SMALL IS AN ELDER AT BETHEL GOSPEL ASSEMBLY IN HARLEM.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

LET'S START AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO POVERTY IN HARLEM AND NEW YORK?

DEFINITELY FATHERLESSNESS, UNDERPERFORMING EDUCATION, THE CRISIS WITH HOMELESSNESS AND HOW THAT ALL IMPACTS THAT CHALLENGE, AS WELL.

SO WE SEEK TO TACKLE THOSE ISSUES IN TERMS OF WANTING TO CHANGE THE LEVEL OF IMPACT WITHIN A COMMUNITY.

CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT ONE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS MIGHT SOUND LIKE?

I'M SURE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, WE HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT WHAT?

SO MOVEMENT DAY PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SAME LEADERS TO BE IN THE SAME ROOM HEARING THE SAME RESEARCH AT THE SAME TIME, AND THEN TACKLING TOGETHER WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHANGE A TRAJECTORY OF THIS ISSUE.

SO WE DON'T JUST WANT TO HEAR BEST PRACTICES AND GIVE YOU AN INSPIRATIONAL TALK AND GO OUR SEPARATE WAYS.

BUT WE'RE COMMITTED TO BRING THESE FOCUS AGENCIES THAT WE REPRESENT BEHIND US TO DO THIS WORK.

THIS IS A CHANCE TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE AND DO THAT REVOLUTIONARY THING, COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO WHAT DOES THAT CONVERSATION OR WHAT DO THAT ACTION I SHOULD SAY LOOK LIKE?

BECAUSE REALLY THE CONVERSATION HAPPENS A LOT, BUT WHERE DOES THE ACTION BEGIN?

IT BEGINS WITH WHAT WE CALL BREAK OUT SESSIONS.

WE'LL TAKE ONE TOPIC, FATHERLESSNESS, GET SOME LEADERS IN THE ROOM THAT ARE WELL VERSED IN THE ISSUES AND ALSO CAN LEAD US TO A DIAGNOSTIC DISCUSSION OF THINKING ABOUT IT A LITTLE MORE CRITICALLY.

AND WHAT WE DO AFTER THAT TIME AND JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO REALLY CHANGE A TRAJECTORY OF THIS ISSUE AND WE DEVELOP AN ACTIONABLE PLAN, THAT WE WILL CONTINUE POST GATHERING THAT THE LEADERS OF THE TRACK WILL CHAMPION, AND THERE'S A COMMITMENT IN THAT ROOM TO CONTINUING THE ENGAGEMENT AFTER THE EVENT IS SAID AND DONE.

AND US CONVENING TOGETHER IN ANOTHER YEAR OR SO TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAVE WE DONE SINCE WE MET AND WHAT HAVE WE SEEN CHANGE AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO TWEAK AND WHAT BECOMES OUR NEXT COMMITMENT.

THESE CONFERENCES HAVE BEEN HAPPENING SINCE 2010 AS I UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR CHANGES THAT YOU SEE, SOMETHING THAT STANDS OUT IN YOUR MIND?

I'VE SEEN A DEEPENING OF RELATIONSHIP WITH VARIOUS DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND LEADERS.

AND REALLY A CHANGING OF PARADIGM IN HOW WE THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY WORK WITHIN THE CITY.

HELPING LEADERS TO BREAK OUT OF THE FOCUS OF LET ME JUST REALLY HAVE AN EMPHASIS ON MY MISSION TO SAYING OKAY, IT'S ALL RIGHT TO HAVE AN EMPHASIS ON MY MISSION BUT WHAT CAN I DO TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE GREATER MISSION OF THE CITY.

AND THE CONTINUAL DISCUSSION AND DIALOGUE WE ARE REPRESENTING THAT HAS REALLY CHIPPED AWAY AT THIS CALL TO COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP THAT REALLY BRINGS ABOUT TRANSFORMATION IN THE CITY.

I THINK WHAT YOU WERE MENTIONING ABOUT BUILDING ON SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THE MEES THAT'S MISSING BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE SAID THERE'S GREAT PROJECTS OR GREAT THINGS OUT THERE LIKE THAT.

BUT KIDS NEED SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO BE WITH THEM FOR THE LONG HAUL.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S REALLY A FOCUS.

IT IS A FOCUS, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE THE PASSION.

WE ALL SEE SOMETHING ON TV OR READ SOMETHING IN THE NEWS AND FIND IT COMPELLING.

BUT HOW DO WE CHALLENGE THAT PASSION INTO AN ACTION THAT DOESN'T TAKE ME TEN YEARS TO REALLY BUILD?

SOMETHING THAT I CAN DO IN THE RIGHT NOW?

WE WANT TO HELP LEADERS THINK ABOUT WHAT CAN THEY BE DOING RIGHT NOW?

HOW CAN THEY WIDEN THEIR PLATFORM TO DO SOMETHING FAR REACHING BY WORKING WITH OTHERS.

SO WE WANT TO HELP TO POINT PEOPLE'S PASSION, DIRECTION, IN WAYS THAT REALLY CAN BRING ABOUT TRANSFORMATION.

VERY QUICKLY, BUT WHAT ROLE GOES GOVERNMENT PLAY IN ALL THIS?

GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO LOOK AT LEGISLATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING IN NEW YORK CITY IS WE SEE A WAGE INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE AND THERE'S A TRAJECTORY TO SEE THAT INCREASE THROUGH 2019.

SO WE CAN ADDRESS IT AT A SOCIAL SERVICE LEVEL, BUT WE NEED THE BACKING OF GOVERNMENT TO LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL SERVICES INDUSTRY, TO TALK ABOUT REGULATIONS AS IT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE WIDENING GAP OF RICH AND POOR IN OUR CITY AND DOING WHAT THEY CAN FROM THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH TO BRING ABOUT ACTION THAT CAN SUPPORT THE SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCIES AND EMPOWER THE COMMUNITIES TO REALLY ACTUALIZE CHANGE.

WELL, LISTEN, REVEREND SMALL, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND SHARING WITH US MOVEMENT DAY GLOBAL CITIES.

IS THAT CORRECT?

YOU GOT IT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT OTHER ACTION COMES OUT OF THE CONFERENCES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME AND FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU.

CAN

> NORMAN LEER, HIS SHOWS NOT ONLY RAISED A GENERATION IN THE '70s, HE REDEFINED COMEDY AND TELEVISION.

BEST KNOWN FOR 'ALL IN THE FAMILY' 'THE JEFFERSONS' AND 'MAUD' JUST TO NAME A FEW.

BUT NONE WOULD BE AS CUTTING EDGE FOR THEIR DAY AS THE WORK OF NORMAN LEER.

HIS LEGACY AND HIS EVER CONTINUING JOURNEY OF CHANGE ARE DOCUMENTED IN A NEW FILM COMING SOON CALLED 'NORMAN LEER, JUST ANOTHER VERSION OF YOU.'

LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

YOU KNOW, IF LIFTING WEIGHTS OR RUNNING CAN ADD TIME, GOD, HOW LAUGHTER CAN ADD TIME.

♪ GUYS LIKE US WE HAD IT MADE, THOSE WERE THE DAY ♪

AND JOINING ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE DOCUMENTARY, HIS LIFE AND HIS WORK IS NORMAN LEER.

IT'S A DELIGHT TO HAVE YOU HERE.

IT'S A DELIGHT TO BE HERE.

I WANT TO START WITH THE DOCUMENTARY AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR HISTORY.

WHEREVER THOU GOEST.

WHAT DID YOU FIRST THINK WHEN YOU WERE APPROACHED ABOUT THE IDEA OF YOU, WHO IS USUALLY BEHIND THE CAMERA ORCHESTRATING THINGS, YOU NO BEING THE SUBJECT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA?

WELL, I PUT MYSELF THE SUBJECT IN FRONT IN THE BOOK I HAD JUST WRITTEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN THIS I GET TO EXPERIENCE.

IT'S TRUE OF THIS MOMENT, EVEN THIS.

I HAD WRITTEN A BOOK AND SO I WAS REALLY -- I HAD BEEN ASKED A NUMBER OF TIMES IF I WOULD DO -- ALLOW A DOCUMENTARY TO BE DONE.

AND I HAD WRITTEN THE BOOK AND REALIZED, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A SUFFICIENT LIFE TO MAKE.

I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN A SUFFICIENT LIFE TO MAKE A FILM.

THE DOCUMENTARY IS FABULOUS AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ENJOY WATCHING IT.

OH, I HATE HEARING THAT.

I DID LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT YOU THAT I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.

THAT WAS YOU STARTED OUT AS A WRITER IN VARIETY SHOWS.

YES.

'MARTIN AND LEWIS,' MARTHA RAY.

WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THAT EXPERIENCE, HOW DID THAT PREPARE YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID LATER IN LIFE?

I THINK IT PREPARED ME A GREAT DEAL.

WE WERE DOING VARIETY, AND WE DON'T HAVE VARIETY SHOWS, WE DON'T HAVE AN ED SULLIVAN OR A CAROL BURNETT OR BURLESQUE.

PEOPLE THINK TODAY BURLESQUE IS STRIPPERS.

BURLESQUE WAS THE COMICS, THE WHICH IS THE METAPHOR, I THINK, FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TODAY.

FROM THERE, YOU FORMED PRODUCTIONS, YOU START PRODUCING, WRITING, DIRECTING FILMS, AN OSCAR NOMINATION FOR 'DIVORCE, AMERICAN STYLE.'

AND THEN IN 1970, YOU SIT DOWN WITH CBS AND 'ALL IN THE FAMILY' WAS BORN.

WHAT WAS THE INITIAL PITCH FOR THAT SHOW?

I STARTED OFF ARCHIE JUSTICE AND THE TITLE WAS 'JUSTICE FOR ALL.'

AND THEN THAT SONG WAS WRITTEN 'THOSE WERE THE DAYS.'

BASED ON THE FACT THAT ARCHIE WAS A GUY THAT LIVED IN THE PAST, HE WAS AFRAID OF PROGRESS, AFRAID OF TOMORROW.

THAT'S WHAT CAUSED HIM TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT BLACKS MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO FORTH.

IT WAS JUST A CHANGE HE COULDN'T LIVE WITH.

WAS THE NETWORK CONCERNED, WAS THERE SOME RESISTANCE ABOUT THE IDEA MAYBE -- THESE ARE SERIOUS SOCIAL ISSUES, BUT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMEDY.

IS THIS THE RIGHT VENUE?

THEY WERE SO CONCERNED THAT THEY HAD AN ADVISORY ON THAT PRECEDED THE SHOW.

COULD YOU PICK ONE OF YOUR SHOWS AND SAY, I'M PROUD OF THEM ALL, THEY'VE ALL DONE MARVELOUSLY, BUT WHAT ARE YOU MOST PROUD OF?

I'M MOST PROUD OF BECAUSE OF THIS, AND ANOTHER SHOW I'M PROUD OF BECAUSE OF THAT.

'MARY HARTMAN' I'M MOST PROUD OF BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ABOUT HOW THE MEDIA IS AFFECTING A SIMPLE AMERICAN HOUSEWIFE AND IT REMINDS YOU, IT'S AS RELATIVE TODAY AS IT WAS AT THE TIME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.

AND IF ONE WONDERS WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THIS AMOUNT OF MEDIA, YOU KNOW, THIS EXCESSIVE AMOUNT IF AN AGE THAT I THINK IS GOLDEN, BECAUSE SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK PEOPLE ARE SAYING TO ME, I WOULD GO TO WATCH THE SHOW AND IT'S FABULOUS.

ONCE AGAIN, THE DOCUMENTARY 'NORMAN LEER, ANOTHER VERSION OF YOU' IS JUST WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

IT'S SO ENJOYABLE TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS AND THE NICE THING IS YOU'RE GOING STAY AROUND BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU MORE ABOUT OTHER ASPECTS.

NORMAN LEER JUST ANOTHER VERSION OF YOU WILL PREMIERE NATIONWIDE OCTOBER 25th AT 9:00 P.M. RIGHT HERE ON PBS.

FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM WAS PROVIDED BY -- -- Captions by VITAC -- www.vitac.com ♪ ♪

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