June 24, 2016: Pride Weekend Security. Church Response to Orlando. Eve of Pride.

Tonight, after events like the tragic attack in Orlando, security is often higher than normal, and in the days and weeks following what happened at Pulse nightclub, police departments, club venue owners, and event planners have been calling their level of safety into question. How does a venue hold a Pride event that celebrates and maintains the spirit of acceptance, freedom, and positivity, all while not compromising the protection of their revelers? Safety and security consultant Bill Stanton stops by to explain not only how law enforcement and private security can step up their surveillance, but also how the community can help protect Pride Week participants as they celebrate. Then, in the immediate aftermath of the Orlando attack, the faithful of the Catholic Church were among the millions who shared their prayers for the victims and their families. Still, Father James Martin, a member of the Jesuit order, took exception to the fact that of all the prayers and condolences offered by the church’s hierarchy, the phrase LGBT was in most cases absent. Father Martin shares why he thinks the omission reflects the invisibility of that community in the Catholic Church, and how the Church can be more inclusive of its LGBT members. Finally, First Person is back! The web series is purposed with the mission to light-heartedly tell the stories of LGBT community members through candid, personal narratives, and comedian Mike Kelton is set to host its second season. Little more than a week ago, First Person went live on Facebook to react to the recent shootings in Orlando. Now, Mike Kelton stops by to talk about the web show’s second season, what’s next, and how it will fit into current LGBT events.

 

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GAY PRIDE WEEKEND AND AS THOUSANDS OF REVELERS GET READY TO CELEBRATE THE RAINBOW THAT IS THE LGTB COMMUNITY, WHAT'S BEING DONE BY THE NYPD TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.

WE HAVE AN INSIDERS PERSPECTIVE.

AS SUNDAY'S PARADE GETS READY TO ROLL DOWN 5th AVENUE, CATHOLIC CHURCHES ACROSS THE REGION MAY OR MAY NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THE GAY COMMUNITY BY NAME.

THAT HAS FATHER JAMES MARTIN FIGHTING MAD.

HE'LL BE HERE WITH SERIOUS CRITICISM OF THE CHURCH HIERARCHY AND HANDLING OF THE WORST MASS SHOOTING IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

> AND IT WILL BE A WEEKEND TO CELEBRATE EQUALITY AND PROGRESS BUT ALSO A SOMBER ONE.

CBS, HOW THE GAY COMMUNITY RESPONDED TO THE TRAGEDY AND HOW ITS COPING.

ALL THAT AND MORE ON 'METROFOCUS.'

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Announcer: THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN, JACK FATHERED AND JENNA FLANAGAN.

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AS GAY PRIDE WEEK CONTINUES TO RAMP UP TO SUNDAY'S PARADE, WHAT STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN BY AUTHORITIES TO ENSURE EVERYONE'S SAFETY.

SIN THE TERROR ATTACK IN ORLANDO THAT LEFT 49 DEAD AND 53 WOUNDED, NEW YORKERS GOING TO GAY BARS ARE GREETED BY EXTRA SECURITY AT THE DOOR AND NEED TO BE PATTED DOWN BEFORE ENTERING.

MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WELCOME THE ADDED SAFETY AND ALL THE EVENTS WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON AS SCHEDULED.

BUT WHAT SECURITY MEASURES SHOULD BE AND WILL BE IN PLACE SUNDAY WHEN MORE THAN 2 MILLION PEOPLE ARE EXPECTED TO TAKE TO THE STREETS OF NEW YORK.

JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THIS, FORMER POLICE OFFICER SAFETY AND SECURITY CONSULTANT, GOOD FRIEND FOR A LOT OF YEARS, BILL, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

LET ME START OFF WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WHAT SHOULD THEY BE DOING IN THE FACE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN ORLANDO AND NEED FOR ENHANCED SECURITY.

RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE OVERT AND COVERT OPERATIONS GOING ON.

CURRENT COUNTER-TERRORISM AND POLICE COMMISSIONER ARE GOOD FRIENDS THAT BEING SAID, I THINK NEW YORK COULD NOT BE IN BETTER HANDS THAN WITH THESE TWO AT THE STEERING WHEEL MEANING THEY ARE GATHERING INFORMATION FROM ALL THESE OTHER ALPHABETIC NEWS AGENCIES AND HOME GROWN COUNTER-TASK FORCE.

THEY ARE BEATING THE BUSHES, LISTENING TO ALL TYPES OF CHATTER AND HOPEFULLY EDUCATING BARS ON WHAT TO DO AND NOT TO DO.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'VE SAID BEFORE, ONE OF THE GREAT TOOLS, WEAPONS IS INTELLIGENCE.

HOW DO WE GATHER THAT ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE AND SITUATIONS HELP PREVENT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PULSE CLUB.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN TWO WAYS.

BOTH WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, FBI, STATE POLICE, LOCAL POLICE SHARING THE INFORMATION AND WE REALLY DIDN'T DO THAT PRE9/11.

WE'RE DOING THAT TO A MUCH GREATER EXTENT TODAY.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THE AVERAGE CITIZEN.

WE ALL SEE THIS, HEAR SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING, WE REALLY NEED TO ENACT THAT.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT FORCES.

THERE'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND PEOPLE STEPPING UP.

WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO STEP UP.

WE'RE SEEING NOW A LOT OF REPORTS ABOUT THE SHOOTER DOWN IN ORDINARY WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING I KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, PARAPHRASING.

I HEARD HIM RANTING AND RAVING ABOUT PEOPLE IN GROUPS BEFORE AND APPARENTLY NOBODY PICKED UP THE PHONE OR DID ANYTHING.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE RELUCTANT?

PRIVATE CITIZEN, HEAR SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING.

THEY LOOK AND SAY I WONDER IF WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING?

WHY IS THERE RELUCTANCE.

ONE IS POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

I DON'T WANT TO BE DEEMED A RACIST, ISLAMOPHOBIC OR WHATEVER PHOBIC IF THEY PICK UP THE PHONE.

NUMBER TWO, SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO IT.

LET SOMEONE ELSE DO IT.

WE REALLY NEED TO SELF-DEPUTIZE EACH OTHER AND LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER.

I SPENT PART OF MY CAREER DOING SPECIAL EXPERIMENTS, I KIDNAP A KID IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN AND NOBODY DOES ANYBODY ABOUT IT.

WE WORKED SO MANY YEARS DOING STUFF LIKE THAT.

WE NEED TO REALIZE, IT HITS HOME.

BY NOT TAKING AN ACTION, PEOPLE CAN AND INEVITABLY ARE GETTING HURT.

YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAY, I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED.

CAN YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND PASS ON A TIP, NYPD SOMEBODY AND NOT HAVE TO BE DRAWN INTO A WITNESS AND A LONG-RUNNING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION?

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A HERO GETTING INTO THE MIDDLE OF A FIGHT OR DEFUSING A BOMB.

YOU COULD BE A HERO JUST AS BIG BY PICKING UP THAT PHONE, GETTING AN ACCURATE DESCRIPTION AND GIVING WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE THE CASE.

LOOK AT THE BODY, LOOK AT THE BODY LANGUAGE, SEE WHAT'S MAKING THAT INTERNAL RADAR GO OFF AND ACT ON THOSE INSTINCTS.

WHAT ABOUT VARIOUS VENUES, IF YOU WERE CONSULTING, COME IN AND LOOK AT OUR SECURITY, WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING BETTER IN LIGHT OF WHAT HAPPENED IN ORLANDO.

WHAT SORT OF THINGS WOULD YOU BE SUGGESTING BARS AND CLUBS AND VENUES FOR EVENTS SHOULD BE CONSCIOUS OF AND AWARE ARE.

THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION.

THE REASON BEING, IT'S A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.

PEOPLE NEED TO MAKE MONEY.

YOU WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL WELCOME.

IT'S A SERVICE INDUSTRY.

SO IF YOU PAT PEOPLE DOWN, IF YOU PUT ON A MAGNA TOM TER, IF YOU INTERVIEW, THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO THE PLACE AT THE CORNER THAT'S EASIER TO GET IN.

SO YOU HAVE TO REACH THAT HAPPY MIDDLE GROUND WHERE YOU TAKE THE TIME OUT AND EDUCATE THE SECURITY STAFF.

YOU TAKE A MOMENT AND SAY, GUYS, LOOK OUT FOR X, Y, AND Z.

IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE PRESS THE PAUSE BUTTON ON COMMON SENSE.

THEY EITHER FORGET IT OR GO OVERBOARD.

THERE'S A HAPPY MIDDLE GROUND.

WORRY ABOUT WHETHER WE WILL LOSE THE SENSE OF ALERTNESS WITH PASSAGE OF TIME AFTER AN EVENT AND TRAGEDY THAT OCCURRED AT PULSE.

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SEE?

JACK, I CANNOT TELL YOU, IN THE SECURITY BUSINESS ON EVERY PLANE, WHETHER IT'S TERRORISM, SECURITY FOR YOUR CHILD OR WHETHER SECURITY FOR YOUR SELF, YOU WALK OUT ON THE STREETS OF NEW YORK AND I'LL ASK EVERYBODY TO TAKE NOTICE OF THIS, OR NOT, BECAUSE YOU'LL PROBABLY BE DOING IT YOUR SELF, LOOKING IN THE PHONE.

THEY HAVE THESE BIG HEADPHONES ON AND THEY WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET NOT EVEN NOTICING A CAR.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO NOTICE A BAD GUY.

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT'S A FAST-FOOD WORLD.

TAKE THAT EXTRA HEARTBEAT AND YOU MAY SAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE.

THIS IS A TOUGH ONE.

IF YOU, GOD FORBID, WERE EVER TO FIND YOURSELF IN A PULSE NIGHTCLUB OR AT A RESTAURANT, VENUE, AMUSEMENT PARK WHERE THERE IS AS THEY DESCRIBE IT AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION, WHAT SHOULD YOU DO?

IT'S NOT A HARD QUESTION AT ALL, JACK.

THERE'S THREE WORDS.

RUN, HIDE, FIGHT.

YOU HEAR SOMETHING THAT YOU EVEN THINK MAY BE A FIRECRACKER, DON'T INVESTIGATE IT, GO TO YOUR PHONE, GO TO THE NEXT THING ON YOUTUBE, GO IN THE EXACT OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

HAVE THAT WHAT IF SCENARIO IN YOUR HEAD WHEREVER YOU GO.

I WALKED IN HERE I DID A QUICK LOOK AROUND AND NOTICE THE TWO EXITS.

GOD FORBID SOMETHING IS HAPPENING I'M GRABBING YOU AND I AND I ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF DODGE.

RUN, HIDE, IF YOU HAVE TO FIGHT.

FIND ANYTHING YOU CAN TO MAKE A WEAPON.

SOMETHING HAPPENING HERE I WOULD BREAK THIS CUP, MAKE IT INTO A WEAPON, HIDE IN THE SHADOWS.

I'M GOING TO FIGHT FOR MY LIFE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING OUT LIKE A SHEEP.

GOOD TO KNOW.

HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO USE THAT INFORMATION.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

TAKE CARE.

> WHAT THIS STATE SAID TODAY BRINGS THIS DISCUSSION OF MARRIAGE EQUALITY TO A NEW PLANE.

THAT'S POWER OF NEW YORK.

IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH OF THE MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICA HISTORY FAITHFUL OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO THE LAITY WERE AMONG THE MILLIONS WHO SAID PRAYERS FOR THE LOSS OF LIFE AND SUFFERING IN ORLANDO.

STILL, FOR JAMES MARTIN, JESUIT OF THE ORDER TOOK EXCEPTION THAT ALL THE PRAYERS AND CONDOLENCES BY THE HIERARCHY, THE PHRASE LGTB WAS IN MOST CASES ABSENT.

HE FEELS IMPOSED THAT COMMUNITY WITHIN THE CHURCH.

PEOPLE EVERYWHERE SHOULD STAND NOT ONLY WITH PEOPLE OF ORLANDO BUT WITH LGTB BROTHERS AND SISTERS ALL OVER THE WORLD IN A TIME OF GRIEF AND LOSS AND IN THEIR TIME OF FEAR.

THIS THE MOMENT FOR ALL CHRISTIANS TO DO SO AND ALL CATHOLICS.

IMAGINE, FOR EXAMPLE, GOD FORBID IF THIS HAD HAPPENED AT SOME PARTICULAR ETHNIC GROUP THEY WOULD EXPRESS SOLIDARITY WITH THE GROUP QUITE NATURALLY.

IF THE MURDERS HAD HAPPEN IN A CHURCH GOD FORBID, OF A CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION.

THEY WOULD DECRY THE LEADERS AND EXPRESS SOLIDARITY WITH MEMBERS OF THAT DENOMINATION.

BUT WITH ONLY ONE EXCEPTION THIS WAS NOT DONE FOR THE GRIEVING LGTB COMMUNITY.

THIS IS REVELATORY, I THINK.

IT SHOWS HOW THE LGTB COMMUNITY IS AN INVISIBLE STILL TO MUCH OF THE CHURCH.

EVEN IN THEIR DEATH THEY ARE INVISIBLE.

FOR TOO LONG CATHOLICS HAVE TREATED THE LGTB COMMUNITY AS OTHER.

BUT FOR THE CHRISTIANS, THERE IS NO OTHER.

THERE IS NO THEM.

THERE'S ONLY AN US.

THIS IS THE MOMENT THAT ENDS THIS US AND THEM, FOR THERE IS NO THEM IN THE CHURCH BECAUSE THERE WAS NO THEM FOR JESUS.

JESUS CONSISTENTLY REACHES OUT TO PEOPLE ON THE MARGINS TO BRING ALL PEOPLE IN.

THOSE WHO ARE INVISIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY ARE SEEN BY JESUS.

HE MAKES EVERYONE AN US.

CATHOLICS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, I THINK, TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL VISIBLE AND VALUABLE, ESPECIALLY IN TIMES OF LOSS.

THE CHURCH THEN NEEDS TO STAND IN STRONG AND PUBLIC SOLIDARITY WITH ALL OF US IN ORLANDO.

FATHER JAMES MARTIN, EDITOR-AT-LARGE FOR JESUIT MAGAZINE AND AUTHOR OF MANY BOOKS 'JESUS, A PILGRIMAGE' JONES US NOW.

FATHER, WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM.

GOOD TO BE HERE.

FATHER, YOU SAY THE CHURCH OR THE CHURCH LEADERS WOULD HAVE NAMED THE VICTIMS IF THEY HAD COME FROM OTHER GROUPS.

BUT HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE IN RESPONSE TO YOUR VIDEO THAT BY NAMING GROUPS, WHETHER OTHERS OR WHETHER THE GAY COMMUNITY, THAT IN DOING THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY SEPARATING THEM.

YOU'RE LABELING THEM AND MAKING THEM OTHERS.

MAKING THEM THEM.

THAT IS JUST CONSIDERING VICTIMS AS PART OF THE HUMAN RACE THAT YOU'RE MAKING THEM US.

I THINK IT'S KIND OF A NONSENSICAL ARGUMENT.

THE IDEA WAS SIMPLY BY USING THE TERM LGTB, WE WERE STATING SOMETHING WE WEREN'T.

IT'S JUST SIMPLE HUMAN COURTESY.

LIKE THEY SAID IN THE VIDEO, IF THERE WAS A CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION, GOD FORBID AN EPISCOPAL CHURCH WAS ATTACKED, WE WOULD SAY WE STAND WITH OUR EPISCOPALIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

THAT'S SIMPLE COURTESY.

IT WAS NOTABLE TO ME IT WASN'T DONE IN TOO MANY CASES FOR THE LGTB COMMUNITY.

AS I SAID, IT'S A SYMBOL OF THEIR INVISIBILITY.

WE CAN'T EVEN IN MANY PARTS OF THE CHURCH BRING OUR SELLS TO EVEN USE THAT TERM OR USE THE TERM GAY AND LESBIAN.

I THINK ONE SHOULD CALL A GROUP WHAT THEY WANT TO BE CALLED.

WHY DID THE CHURCH LEADERS NOT DO THAT?

I DIDN'T WANT TO SINGLE ANYBODY OUT.

I THINK THERE'S A DISCOMFORT WITH THAT COMMUNITY.

I THINK SOME CHURCH LEADERS MAY NOT KNOW PEOPLE FROM THAT COMMUNITY SO THERE'S AN UNFAMILIARITY.

THEY MAY HAVE THEOLOGICAL OR RELIGIOUS CRITIQUES OF SOME OF THEIR ACTIVITIES.

BUT I REALLY THINK IN THE TIME OF SOMEONE'S DEATH TO BE ABLE TO SUR MOUNT THOSE DIFFICULTIES AND OBSTACLES AND JUST EXTEND A WORD OF COMFORT TO THESE PEOPLE.

AS I SAID IN THIS VIDEO, THAT'S WHAT JESUS DOES, GOES OUT TO PEOPLE IN THE MARGINS.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY GROUP THAT FEELS AS MARGINALIZED IN THE CATHOLIC CHUM AS THE LGTB COMMUNITY.

NOT ALL CHURCH LEADERS REFRAIN FROM CALLING THE LGTB COMMUNITY THE LGTB COMMUNITY WHO SUFFERED THESE MURDERS.

WHO WERE THE EXCEPTIONS AND WHY WERE THEY EXCEPTIONS?

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT USING THE WORD LGTB, IT'S ABOUT REACHING OUT TO THEM.

MY LARGER POINT WAS REACHING OUT TO THEM.

OUR BISHOP FROM CHICAGO SPECIFICALLY REACHED OUT TO THEM.

BISHOP McILROY IN SAN DIEGO, CARDINAL O'MALLEY IN BOSTON, SO THERE WERE QUITE A FEW THAT DID.

BUT I FELT THERE NEEDED TO BE A MUCH STRONGER RESPONSE FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

THESE ARE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T OUR CATHOLIC BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT UPON US TO REALLY SPEAK A WORD OF COMFORT TO PEOPLE WHO FEEL MARGINALIZED AND TO PEOPLE WHO FELT THIS GREAT LOSS, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

HOW DID POPE FRANCIS RESPOND?

HE PUT OUT A RATHER GENERIC, I WOULD SAY, MESSAGE OF SYMPATHY, WHICH WAS VERY HEARTFELT.

I DON'T FAULT HIM FOR NOT MENTIONING THAT COMMUNITY.

I THINK PROBABLY THE DETAILS OF THE ATTACK PROBABLY DIDN'T REACH HIM.

HE PUT OUT THESE KINDS OF CONDOLENCES FOR TRAGEDIES ALL OVER THE WORLD, SO I DON'T FAULT HIM AT ALL FOR NOT USING THAT TERM.

IN FACT, HE'S ONE OF THE FIRST CHURCH LEADERS WHO USED THE TERM GAY, WHEN HE SAID WHO I AM TO JUDGE.

BEFORE THAT CHURCH LEADERS WERE NOT EVEN USING THAT WORD.

I THINK HE'S SOMEONE WHO BROUGHT A GREAT DEAL OF VISIBILITY AND WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY.

FATHER, WHENEVER WE THINK OF TERRORISTS AND WHAT MOTIVATES THEM, THEY THINK THEY ARE MOTIVATED BY THE RELIGION AND KORAN AND LAW AND HOMOPHOBIC AS DOES THE OLD TESTAMENT AND NEW TESTAMENT FOR OUR RELIGION AND FOR THE JEWISH AND CHRISTIAN RELIGION.

SO HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THOSE WHO ARGUE THAT THE LATE CHRISTOPHER WAS RIGHT, RELIGION POISONS EVERYTHING, RELIGION, WHATEVER IT IS, IS AT THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT MOTIVATES THE FELLOW, HOMOPHOBIA, TWISTED IDEA OF ISLAM.

THE BEST RESPONSE TO CHRISTOPHER HITCHINS WHO I THINK WAS WRONG ABOUT THAT ARE PEOPLE LIKE POPE FRANCIS, MOTHER TERESA, FRANCIS OF ASSISI AND FRANKLY, JESUS.

THAT'S THE COUNTER-ARGUMENT.

THE COUNTER-ARGUMENT IS NOT SOME PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT, THEY ARE EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE DOING GREAT WORK IN THE NAME OF RELIGION AND MOTIVATED BY RELIGION AND ONLY BECAUSE OF RELIGION.

SO YOU THINK RELIGION TWISTS EVERYTHING, LOOK AT POPE FRANCIS, SAINT FRANCIS ASSISI, LOOK AT JESUS, BASICALLY.

SO IS IT ENOUGH FOR THE CHURCH TO BEGIN TO EMBRACE THE LGTB COMMUNITY?

TO BEGIN TO NAME IT BY ITS NAME OR DOES THE CHURCH HAVE TO CHANGE WHAT SOME CONSIDER FUNDAMENTAL DOCTRINES ABOUT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, INTERPRETATION OF THE FAMILY?

HOW DO YOU RESPOND?

I THINK THE CHURCH NEEDS TO LISTEN, FIRST OF ALL.

THE CHURCH NEED TO -- POPE FRANCIS HAS A GREAT WORD, ACCOMPANIMENT.

LISTEN TO PEOPLE.

PAY TANK TO THEM.

REALLY, PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR EXPERIENCES.

I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THE CHURCH HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LGTB COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF TALKING WITH THE LGTB COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, WHO ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR EXPERIENCES.

WHAT DO YOU LOOK FOR IN THE CHURCH?

WHAT'S YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH JESUS?

IT'S THE ONLY COMMUNITY IN THE CHURCH WHO ARE MET, FIRST OF ALL, WITH CONDEMNATION.

I TELL PEOPLE, IMAGINE IF YOU'RE MEETING WITH BUSINESS PEOPLE, CATHOLIC BUSINESS PEOPLE.

THE FIRST THING YOU SAID IS DON'T STEAL MONEY, DON'T EMBEZZLE, DON'T CHEAT PEOPLE.

WE DON'T TREAT PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THEM AND MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE FIRST.

THE GAY PRIDE PARADE, WHAT DO YOU THINK PASTORS ACROSS NEW YORK CITY SHOULD BE SAYING FROM THE PULPIT IN THEIR SERMONS ABOUT LGTB COMMUNITY.

FIRST IS WELCOME.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD BE SAYING.

YOU'RE CATHOLICS, BAPTIZED CATHOLICS, YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE HERE IN THE CHURCH AS I DO, THE PRIEST, POPE FRANCIS, ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK A WORD OF COMFORT THAT THE CHURCH IS WITH YOU.

THE CHURCH IS READY TO LISTEN TO YOU, READY TO BE WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE CATHOLICS AS MUCH AS WE ARE.

AND FATHER, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE DOING ON SUNDAY AND BEYOND SUNDAY?

HAVE THE MURDERS IN ORLANDO CHANGED YOUR PRIORITIES?

WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SAYING, WRITING?

I'LL BE AT MASS LIKE I AM ALL SUNDAYS AND ALL DAYS, JESUIT.

I THINK IT'S EMBOLDENED ME TO BE A LITTLE MORE FORCEFUL ABOUT THE WAY I SPEAK ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND THAT REMINDS ME AGAIN OF THE NEED FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE VOICELESS AND OFTENTIMES IN OUR CHURCH LGTB PEOPLE FEEL VOICELESS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.

MY PLEASURE.

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> NEARLY TWO WEEKS AFTER THE MURDERS IN ORLANDO, THE COUNTRY IS STILL MOURNING.

OF COURSE NO GROUP WAS MORE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE TERRORIST ATTACK THAN THE LGTB COMMUNITY.

THE FIRST PERSON AT THE PBS WEB SERIES TELLS MEMBERS OF THE LGTB COMMUNITY THROUGH CANDID PERSONAL NARRATIVE.

THE PROGRAM IS ABOUT TO BEGIN A SECOND SEASON BUT LAST WEEK, CONDUCT ADD LIVE FACEBOOK CHAT IN RESPONSE TO THE SHOOTING.

HERE IS PART OF THAT CONVERSATION.

THE MEDIA COVERAGE HAS BEEN VERY MUCH ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS SAID THAT COULD BE SEEN AS APPROPRIATE OR NOT APPROPRIATE.

ARE THERE THINGS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE MEDIA, THIS IS THE WAY TO HANDLE IT OR THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT THE WAY TO EXPOSE THIS COVERAGE.

I THINK YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE WAY THE ORLANDO INCIDENT HAS SORT OF SERVED LIKE A POLITICAL ADVENTURE OR INK BLOT TEST DEPENDING ON THE TALKING HEAD TAKING THAT ON.

FROM THE RIGHT IT BECOMES ABOUT TERRORISM, BOOGEYMAN, FROM LGTBQ COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE JUST ANOTHER HATE CRIME ON A NEW STUPENDOUS LEVEL.

FROM DEMOCRATS, WE HAVE ABOUT GUN CONTROL.

IT BECOMES ABOUT GUN CONTROL.

RIGHT?

JUST SEEING THE WAY EVERY NEWS CYCLE IT TAKES ON A NEW FORM IS EXHAUSTING BUT ALSO IT MAKES YOU FEEL CYNICAL, RIGHT?

LIKE HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO FEEL?

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO FRAME THIS ISSUE?

THAT BECOME VERY PERSONAL.

HOW INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, FRAME THIS ISSUE BECOMES A REFLECTION ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL AND SOCIAL AND ETHNIC IDENTITY.

SO IT'S CREATING A VERY SORT OF TENSE BUT WHEN YOU WALK AWAY FROM IT FOR LIKE TWO SECONDS AT A TIME, IT'S LIKE INTERESTING.

JOINING ME NOW, MIKE, WELCOME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

FIRST OF ALL, MIKE, WHO WERE YOUR TWO GUESTS IN THE LIVE CHAT.

TONY AGUSTINO, NO RELATION TO THE GROCERY STORE, HE'S AT COLUMBIA AND SERVING LGTBQ STUDIES.

HE'S A VERY, VERY SMART GUY.

ALSO, A YEAR MUSLIM ACTIVIST THAT HAS BEEN DOING HIS WORK SINCE THE AGE OF 19.

WELL, AS TONY SAID, THIS STORY HAS BEEN COVERED AS MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

HOW IS FIRST PERSON PLANNING TO COVER IT?

FIRST PERSON IS TELLING INDIVIDUAL STORIES.

JUST NORMAL PEOPLE AND THEIR SPECIFIC STORY ABOUT HOW THEY CAME TO LOVING THEM SELVES AND ACCEPTANCE.

THIS ATTACK HAS AFFECTED NOT ONLY THE LGTB COMMUNITY BUT LATIN X COMMUNITY, THAT'S THE QUEER LATIN COMMUNITY.

THEY HAVE SO MUCH EXPOSURE, FIRST PERSON WILL EXPOSE THEIR STORIES AS WELL.

THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IN THE SECOND SEASON BECAUSE WE WANT TO HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

WHAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE?

HOW DID IT AFFECT YOU PERSONALLY?

OH, BOY.

IT WAS A MIX OF EMOTIONS.

WHEN I WOKE UP SUNDAY MORNING, LAST SUNDAY MORNING, COUPLE SUNDAY MORNINGS AGO.

I FIRST READ THE NEWS AND I SAID, THIS IS TERRIBLE.

BUT I KEPT GOING ABOUT MY DAY TRYING TO FORGE FORWARD.

LATER IN THE DAY I WAS WORKING ON DIRECTING A SERIES ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.

LATER IN THE DAY I HEARD THAT THE DEATH TOLL WAS UP TO 50.

NOW NOT AS MUCH, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS REPORTED THEN.

AND I JUST FELT FEARFUL.

I FELT SAD.

AND I SAID, WHAT CAN I DO?

HOW CAN I HELP?

THAT LIT A FIRE UNDER MY BUTT.

I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP.

THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE FIRST PERSON IS.

WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT YOUR PLANS FOR FIRST PERSON.

HOW DID THIS EVENT CHANGE YOUR PLANS FOR FIRST PERSON?

EXPOSING STORIES WITHIN A COMMUNITY IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT CREATES VISIBILITY, AND THAT LEADS TO UNDERSTANDING AND COMPASSION.

THIS SHOOTING WAS AN ATTACK ON OUR COMMUNITY BUT SPECIFICALLY THE LATIN X COMMUNITY.

TELLING EVERYONE'S STORY, WHITE GAY MAN OR LATIN PERSON OF COLOR.

THIS LEADS ME TO BE MORE ABOUT EXPOSING EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

LET'S TELL EVERYBODY'S STORIES BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP CREATE EXPOSURE AND UNDERSTANDING.

IF SOMEONE WAS WATCHING RIGHT NOW AND WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THEIR STORY ON FIRST PERSON OR PARTICIPATE IN ANY WAY, WHAT SHOULD THEY DO.

I WOULD LOVE THAT.

THERE IS A KICK-STARTER FOR OUR SECOND SEASON NOW.

THERE WILL BE A LINK.

IF YOU CAN DONATE AND LET US KNOW IN THE COMMENTS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WE'LL INCORPORATE THAT.

YOU MIGHT SEE AN EPISODE ON SEASON TWO THAT CAME FROM YOUR COMMENTS, WHICH COULD BE PRETTY COOL.

THIS IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR FIRST SEASON.

HOW DID YOU COME HERE?

AUDITION.

MORE SPECIFICALLY JOE HARRELL, THE PRODUCER OF THIS SERIES AND DAN GRAVER.

HE APPROACHED ME AND SAID HE GOT MY NAME FOR SOMEONE.

WHEN THEY TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THIS EXPERIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT MINE, WE BRAIN STORMED SOME EPISODES.

I FELT LIKE FROM MY AUDITION I WAS HOST OF THE SECOND SEASON.

BECAUSE WE BRAIN STORMED A LOT OF EPISODES.

I GOT SO EXCITED.

I CALLED MY SISTER-IN-LAW AND I SAID, I'VE GOT TO GET THIS JOB.

I HAVE TO TELL THE STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE TOLD.

WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE IN YOUR FIRST SEASON OF THIS PROGRAM?

THIS IS QUICK, BUT WHEN I WEPT TO COLLEGE I WAS THE FIRST GAY PEOPLE -- GAY PERSON THAT A LOT OF MY FRIENDS HAD MET FROM THE MIDWEST OR OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

KNOWING THEM CHANGED THEIR VIEW.

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO A WIDER ARRAY AND WIDER AUDIENCE OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST ALLIES OF THE COMMUNITY.

I WANT BIGOTS TO SEE THIS SEASON AND I WANT IT TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS ABOUT HOW HUMAN BEINGS ARE HUMAN BEINGS.

ALL RIGHT, MIKE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU ON YOUR FIRST SEASON AS HOST OF FIRST PERSON.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

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