8/28: Supportive Housing, Deputy Mayor Alicia Glen, Race Relations After Ferguson, Greenwich Village Stories

Encore: August 28, 2014

Is supportive housing a solution for chronically homeless families? Producer Marisa Wong takes us to in the Bronx  to meet resident Annemarie Wallace who found a home for her family after struggling with substance abuse. Supportive housing provides a place to live alongside low-income families and offer onsite drug, healthcare and job counseling.

New York City Deputy Mayor for Housing and Economic Development Alicia Glen joins host Rafael Pi Roman to follow up on the growing demand for supportive and affordable housing in New York City. Glen is managing the de Blasio administration’s multi-billion dollar effort to preserve and build 200,000 units of affordable housing.

NYU Steinhardt School of Culture, Education and Human Development associate professor Charlton McIlwain discusses race relations and the role of the media during coverage of the shooting of Michael Brown in Missouri.

And Greenwich Village, one of New York City’s most iconic neighborhoods, is not immune to the forces of change. Executive director of the Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation Andrew Berman tells Pi Roman about his organization’s latest effort to preserve fleeting, ephemeral memories of the area in a new book of essays and photos, Greenwich Village Stories: A Collection of Memories.

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> FROM THE WORLD'S LEADING SENT FOREFINANCE, THE ARGUMENT PUBLISHING, SCIENCE, RESEARCH, MEDIA, INNOVATION AND MUCH MORE, THIS IS 'METROFOCUS' WITH RAFAEL PI ROMAN

> TONIGHT, THE PLANS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN A VERY EXPENSIVE CITY

WE THINK THAT 200,000 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFORDABLE FOR DECADES TO COME WILL BE SIGNIFICANT DOWN PAYMENT O WHOOF IS THE LARGER ISSUE.

EXAMINE RACE RELATIONS.

COME A LONG WAY DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THINGS ARE NOT DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE 4 YEARS AGO, 50 YEARS AGO, AND A BOOK ABOUT GREENWICH VILLAGE THEN AND NOW WITH A MYSTERY ON THE COVER.

A YOUNG MAN STANDING THER THUMBING THROUGH SOME SORT O BOOK, PERFECTLY CAPTURES THE SPIRIT OF THE TIME, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THIS MAN IS

> FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM I MADE POSSIBLE BY - THE FORD FOUNDATION.

WORKING WITH VISIONARIES ON TH FRONT LINES OF SOCIAL CHANGE WORLDWIDE.

CORPORATE FUNDING FO 'METROFOCUS' IS PROVIDED BY -- MUTUAL OF AMERICA.

YOUR RETIREMENT COMPANY, AND B THE FOLLOWING --

> ONE OF MAYOR BILL de BLASIO'S BIGGEST CAMPAIG PROMISE, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY.

A LOT MORE ALSO PLANNING TO REVAMP PUBLIC HOUSING AND SHELTERS FOR THE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS WHAT'S NEEDED GOES BEYON SHELTER.

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AN IDE STARTED IN NEW YORK IN THE 1990s AND MAY BE MORE THAN JUST HOUSING SOLUTION

COLORED IT GREEN A LITTLE

Reporter: SAMANTHA LOVES TO DRAW SHE HAS A PET TURTLE, AND HE ROOM IS FILLED WITH PINK HORSES.

IT SEEMS ORDINARY ENOUGH FOR A 9-YEAR-OLD, UNLESS YOU SEE WHERE SAMANTHA AND HER PARENTS SPENT THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF HER LIFE.

HE CALLS IT THE UGLY HOUSE.

SO MANY MICE, AND I WAS SCARED FOR HER, BECAUSE THEY'D COME RIGHT ON THE BED YEAH IT WAS HORRIBLE.

Reporter: IN 20095, SAMANTHA'S MOTHER ANN MARI WALLACE WAS PREGNANT I TREATMENT FOR DRUG ADDICTION AND SUDDENLY HOMELESS.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND CARLOS BOUNCED BETWEEN HOMELESS HEALT ISSERS AND SHORPT-TERM HOUSING FOR YEESHGS ALL TEMPORARY, KEP FALLING BACK ON OLD HABITS AND STUCK IN THE SYSTEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK OR DO MY HUSBAND KEPT SAY, IT'S GOIN TO BE ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING GET THROUGH IT

Reporter: THEN A NEW YORK CITY SHEMTER WORKER TOLD THE FAMILY ABOUT A DIFFERENT OPTION.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH BUILT-IN SUPPORT SERVICES CALLED SIMPLY ENOUGH, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WALLACE APPLIED.

IN STEAD OF A TEMPORARY SHELTER, A PLACE TO CALL HOME IN THE BRONX

I FEEL EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON WE GOT OUT OF ONE PLACE BUT WENT TO SOMEWHERE BETTER.

Reporter: HERE, CHRONICALLY HOMELESS FAMILYS WITH A HISTOR OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE LIV ALONGSIDE LOW-INCOME FAMILIE WHO QUALIFY FOR SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.

WHAT WE MIGHT TAKE FO GRANTED IS FOREIGN FOR THEM WHEN THEY MOVE IN GETTING CHILDREN OFF TO SCHOOL FOLLOWING THAT ROUTINE CLEANING THEIR APARTMENT SOME FAMILIES ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THEIR OWN SELVES.

Reporter: EMILY OVERSEE THIS ON-SITE COUNSELORS FOR DRU ADDICTION, HEALTH CARE AND JOB ASSISTANCE GUIDANCE NEW TO MARIA TENANTS.

I DIDN'T KNOW YOU CAN GET FOR GED IN COLLEGE A WORKER HERE AND SHE TOLD M ABOUT IT, AND TOOK ME ON TOURS AND, STARTED THE PROCESS

Reporter: THERE'S A CATCH SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS EXPENSIVE.

WHILE RESIDENTS PAY 30% OF THEIR INCOME TOWARDS RENT, MANY RELY ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE OR SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS, AND THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES COS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO CONSTRUCT OR RENOVATE.

ONE OF THE CITY'S LARTES SUPPORTIVE HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS, THE NONPROFIT COMMON GROUND, TURNED THIS FORMER WELFARE HOTEL INT HOUSING FOR HOMELESS AND LOW-INCOME RESIDENTS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAY LONG-TERM SAVINGS OUTWEIGH THE COSTS.

A TYPICAL PERSON YOU WALK B ON THE STREET IS COSTING THE CITY AND THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ROUGHLY $56,000 A YEAR TO COME INTO A BUILDING LIKE THIS AND HAVE AN APARTMENT WIT A KEY, COSTS ROUGHLY $24,000 A YEAR

Reporter: THE SOCIAL AN MEDICAL SERVICES AVAILABLE HER ARE ALSO PART OF THE ARGUMEN FOR BUILDING MORE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WIT ON THE STREETS THAT ARE DEALIN WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AN MEDICAL ISSUES AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUES ARE THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE USING PUBLIC RESOURCE IN A VERY LARGE WAY.

SO THESE CRISIS SERVICES THE USE, EMS, EMERGENCY ROOM PSYCHIATRIC, HOSPITALS, JAILS, THESE COST A LOT OF MONEY.

Reporter: BACK IN THE BRONX ANN MARIE WALLACE IS CLEAN AND SOBER AND ON HER WAY T COMPLETING A BACHELOR DEGREE I HEALTH SERVICES.

I WENT TO SCHOOL SO I CAN DEPEND ON ME MIP KIDS CAN DEPEND ON ME AND I FEEL MY KIDS TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE, YOU KNOW, TO GO TO SCHOOL AND GET THEI EDUCATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

THE ULTIMATE GOAL I THINK FOR US IS THAT WE BREAK THE CYCLE OF HOMELESSNESS THAT WE WORK SO CLOSELY WITH THE FAMILIES AND THE CHILDRE ESPECIALLY THAT WE SEE THE CHILDREN GRADUATE FROM HIG SCHOOL WE SEE THE CHILDREN GOING ON T COLLEGE.

Reporter: LIKE ANY LOW-INCOME HOUSING, ONCE ACCEPTED SUPPORTIVE HOUSING RESIDENTS CAN STAY AS LONG AS THEY PAY THEIR SHARE OF THE RENT.

BECAUSE MOST STAY PUT AND TH DEMAND IS GROWING, IT'S NOW TO THE CITY AND THE STATE TO DECIDE WHAT TO INVEST TO MAKE ROOM FO MORE FAMILIES LIKE ANN MARIE WALLACE'S.

IN THE BRONX, FOR 'METROFOCUS.

> AND JOINING ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE DELAZI ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AGENDA AN OTHER KEY ELEMENTS IN'S MAYOR' HOUSING SPLAN THE DEPUTY MAYOR FOR HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ALICIA GLEN WELCOME.

THANK YOU

NOW WHAT IS THE MAYOR'S PLA TO ENHANCE AND EXPAND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING?

WELL, WE'VE ALWAYS SAID SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS A VERY VERY COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE MUCH BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FOLKS WH HAVE BEEN CYCLING IN AND OUT O SHELTERS FOR A LONG PERIOD O TIME, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES SAVE US MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE DOLLARS IN VARIOUS WAYS.

WHETHER ACTUALLY THE SHELTER COSTS ITSELF, MEDICAL VISITS ALL OF THE VERY EXPENSIV SERVICES THAT THE CITY PROVIDE TO FAMILY WHOSE ARE VB DESTABILIZED WE KNOW THE LONG-TERM INVESTMENT MAKES SENSE.

IT REQUIRES MANY MULTIPL PIECES, AS THE REPORTE SUGGESTED ON YOUR PIECE, THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF THE BUILDING, WHICH REQUIRE AS HUGE CAPITA COMMITMENT BY THE CITY AND I REQUIRES STATE AND FEDERAL PARTICIPATION TO MAKE SURE THA THOSE FAMILIES HAVE THE AS MUC AS THEY NEED SO THAT THE MODEL IS RELAYED SUCCESSFULLY AN WONDERFUL EXAMPLES BUT IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE ALL LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT COMING TO THE TABLE TO REALLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, MAYOR DELAZIO HAS ALREAD DOUBLED THE AMOUNT OF 2K345E79 OUR HOUSING BUDGET AND A LARGE PORTION OF THAT WILL BE DEVOTE TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAV HOUSING BUILT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LOW INCOME AND ALSO MUCH OF THAT WILL HAVE SUPPORT OF HOUSING COMPONENT TO T. AS WE SAW IN THE PIECE, PEOPLE IN SUPPORTIV HOUSING OF COURSE WANT TO STAY INSUPPORTIVE HOUSING DO YOU HAVE A PLAN FOR THOSE BECOMING MORE INDEPENDENT OUT OF SUPPORTIVE HOUSING INTO ANOTHE FORM OF LOW-INCOME HOUSING A. GOOD POINT.

WHAT'S GOING INTO THE PIPELINE OF FOLKS WHO NEED THOSE SCHS AND WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT TH FAMILIES WHO BECOME ULTIMATELY STABILIZED AND COULD LIVE IN REGULAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO ATTACK IT FROM BOTH ENDS BOTH TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNIT COMING ONLINE TO DEAL WITH THE INCREASING NEED OF PARTICULARL FOLKS LIVING IN THE SHELTERS AND HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WE NEED T ADDRESS, SIMULTANEOUSLY MAKING SURE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES FO FAMILIES READY TO LEAV SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP BUILDING MORE AND MORE IS A POTTIVE HOUSING AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FAMILIES READY TO BE JUST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING GENERALLY SPEAKING WE ARE LOOKING AT BOTH ENDS OF THE EQUATION

SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS A SMALL SUBSET OF THE LARGER NEEDS O LARGER POPULATION, OF PEOPLE CONSIDERED EXTREMELY LOW INCOME.

RIGHT

WHAT IS THE ADMINISTRATIO GOING TO DO TO HELP MORE O THOSE FAMILIES WHO MAKE LESS THAN$S 25,000 A YEAR WHO D VENT SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEMS?

OVER THE PAST DECADE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RETRACTED FROM BEING IN THE HOUSIN BUSINESS, IN MANY RESPECTS FOR VERY LOW INCOME FAMILIES TRADITIONALLY THE CITY AND REALLY AROUND THE COUNTRY HAVE RELIED ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDING SECTION 8 VOUCHERS FOR VERY LOW INCOME FAMILY WHOSE WILL PAY ONE-THIRD OF THEI INCOME TOWARDS THEIR RENT AN BEING ABLE TO LIVE NOT ONLY IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, ALSO ABLE TO RENT A UNIT ON OPEN MARKET.

AS THAT PROGRAM CONTINUESED TO BE ROLLED BACK AND WE'VE BEE UNABLE TO ISSUE NEW VOUCHERS THAT'S HAD A SUBSTANTIAL IMPAC ON OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE VERY VERY LOW INCOME HOUSING FO FOLKS.

THAT SAID, THE MAYOR'S BEEN VERY CLEAR AS WE ARE ALLOCATING OUR RESOURCES IN THE PLAN WE ARE PREPARED TO AGAIN PUT ADDITIONAL CITY-BASED SUBSIIES AND DOLLAR TO MAKE SURE WE ARE INCREASING THE NUMBER OF UNITS AVAILABL FOR EXTREMELY LOW INCOME I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE BI PROGRESS THE MAYOR IS KMIPTED TO DOIN FOUR TIMES AS MANY UNITS FOR EXTREMELY LOW INCOME AS TH PRIOR ADMINISTRATION BUT WITHOUT A MORE COMPREHENSIVE APPROAC THAT INCLUDES THE FEDERA GOVERNMENT STEPPING BACK INT THE GAME WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE CHALLENGES BUT BEGIN TO MANT A CONSENT IN THE PROBLEM

THE MAYOR COMMITTED T BUILDING, OR PRESERVING 200,00 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVER THE NEXT DECADE.

VERY AIM BISHS PROJECT MOST AMBITIOUS IN THE HISTORY OF ANY CITY IN THE COUNTRY.

YES

BUT IS IT AMBITIOUS ENOUG FOR A CITY THAT HAS A POPULATION OF OVER 8 MILLION?

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT OF THOSE 200,000, ONLY, AND I SAY ONLY, 80,000 NEW CONSTRUCTIONS?

THE 200,000 UNITS, ROUGHL 500,000 PEOPLE THE SIZE OF ATLANTA, IF YOU CA BELIEVE IT LOOK AT ACTUALLY WHAT TH POPULATION OF ATLANTA IS IS IT ENOUGH PROBABLE NOT, BUT REMEMBER THAT'S JUST THE PRODUCTION WE'RE TARGETING SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING MEANS HOUSING SUPPORTABLE TO CERTAIN INCOM BANDS AND RESTRICTEDED TO THOS INCOME BANDS THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'LL NO PURSUE OTHER POLICY INITIATIVE THAT INCREASE THE OVERAL PRODUCTION OF HOUSING TO MEE OUR INCREASING POPULATIO GROWTH, WHICH IS A TERRIFI PROBLEM IN MANY WAYS TO HAVE THAT NEW YORK CITY CONTINUES T GROW AND IS REALLY A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO COME, STAY AN GROW BUSINESSES AND RAIS FAMILIES SO WE THINK 200,000 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE FOR DECADES TO COME WILL BE SIGNIFICANT DOWN PAYMENT ON ON OF THE LARGER ISSUES WE'RE FACING IN TERMS OF OVERALL RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTION

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY PRESERVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

THERE ARE MANY, MANY PROJECTS ACROSS THE BOROUGHS THAT HAV HAD FORMS OF GOVERNMEN ASSISTANCE OVER THE PAST THREE FOUR DECADES MANY PEOPLE MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT THE KOCH ADMINISTRATION PUT INTO THE BRONX, FOR EXAMPLE.

MANY BUILDINGS ARE 20, 30 YEAR OLD, FAMILIES LIVING IN TH BUILDINGS AND THEY'RE BEGINNIN TO GET A LITTLE HOT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE VER PEOPLE WHO REBUILT THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS GET TO STAY IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE CAN HELP THOSE BUILDINGS STA HEALTHY AND STAY AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT WOULD BE A TERRIBLE CRIME FOR US TO LOSE A UNIT OF AFFORDABL HOUSING THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUILT OVER DECADES OF WORK

WHEN ARE NEW YORKERS GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE ACTUALLY MADE A DENT IN WHAT YOU CALL AND OTHERS CALL THE AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN HOUSIN IN THE CITY?

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED 8,700 UNITS SINCE THE MAYOR HAS BEEN IN OFFICE, AND MANY OF THESE ARE GOING INTO THE GROUND AS W SPEAK.

BUILDINGS RENOVATED ACROSS FIV BOROUGHS I THINK WE TALK ABOUT 200,00 UNITS.

THAT WILL TAKE A PERIOD OF TIM TO RAMP UP, BECAUSE WE HAVE LOT OF PROBLEMATIC OBJECTIVES WE NEED TO GET BAKED INTO THE PROGRAM.

SO I WOULD SAY IN THE NEXT, BY THE END OF 2015, NEW YORKERS SHOULD HAVE A PALPABLE SENSE THERE'S MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSIN PRODUCENED AND HOPEFULLY MOR PRODUCED IN GENERAL.

DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US

THANK YOU

> IN MISSOURI, IN NEW YORK, IN THE NATION, THE ISSUE AND TH SUMMER IN 2014 IS RACE AND THE BIG QUESTIONS ARE -- WAS THERE EVER ANY REAL CHANGE IN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEE WHITE AND BLACK AMERICANS?

AND WHAT DO WE DO NOW?

JOINING ME NOW TO TALK ABOUT PERCEPTIONS, POLICIES AND TH REALITIES, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF MEDIA, CULTURE AN COMMUNICATION AT NYU STEINHART WELCOME.

THANK YOU

BIG QUESTIONS IN A MOMENT LET ME START WITH THIS -- WH WAS THE EVENT IN FERGUSON, MISSOURI, THE KILLING OF MICHAEL BROWN, WHAT TRIGGERED THES VIOLENT PROTESTS AND CAPTURE THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT

I THINK IT'S REALLY A CASE OF THAT PROVERBIAL STRAW BREAKING THE CAMEL'S BACK IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND MORE RECENTLY THE DEATHS OF BLACK MEN BY THE HANDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE INJURED THEM, SOME OF THEM COPS, I THINK REALLY BUILT IN SUCH A WAY THAT MADE THE KILLING OF MICHAEL BROWN A REAL FISSURE IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE WAY I IN MICHAEL BROWN WAS KILLED.

YOU HAVE A POLICE OFFICER WHO' WHITE.

MICHAEL BROWN WHO IS AFRICAN-AMERICAN HAVE YOU A TOWN IN FERGUSO THAT'S MOSTLY BLACK.

A POLICE FORCE THAT'S MOSTLY WHITE.

AND THEN THE BRUTALITY OF HI KILLING.

SHOT SIX TIMES THE AUTOPSY HAS SHAWN, SHOT IN BROAD DAYLIGHT AND THE IMAGES OF SEEING MICHAEL BROWN'S BODY FACE DOWN ON THE DIRT IN FERGUSON I THE HOUSING COMPLEX FOR ALL TO SEE AND FOR SUCH A LONG TIME I THINK IT WAS A VISION OF - THAT ALL AMERICANS COULD REALL LOOK TO AND SAY, WOW SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT HERE.

YOUR EXPERTISE IS THE MEDIA AND THE MESSAGE.

HAS THERE BEEN ANYTHING IN THE COVERAGE OF THIS EVENT THAT YO HAVE FOUND TROUBLING

NOT A LOT PARTICULARL TROUBLING.

THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES, I THINK WHEN THE MEDIA HAS STARTED T REALLY COVER THE CASE, TWO O THREE DAYS REALLY EN MASSE AFTER THE KILLING OF MICHAEL BROWN WHERE YOU STARTED TO SEE SOME OF THE SHIFTING FOCUS OF THE MEDI AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

IN PARTICULAR, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF JOURNALISTS AND SO FORTH.

SO FOR A MOMENT, WHE JOURNALISTS REALLY STARTED T FLOOD FERGUSON, REALLY STARTED TO KOVLGER THE EVENT AND THE POLICE WERE FIGHTING BACK AN BARRING THEM FROM COVERING THE WAY THAT THEY WANTED TO.

I THINK THE STORY SHIFTED.

IN A WRONG WAY?

IN A WAY THAT I THINK JUS SIMPLY DETRACTED FOCUS AWAY FROM THE REAL ISSUE OF THE CASE WHICH WAS THE --

YES NOW, MAYOR de BLASIO RECENTL SAID THERE CANNOT BE REAL CHANGE IF WE ARE DISTRACTED BY RECKLESS VIOLENCE HAS THE MEDIA COVERAGE OF THIS EVENT BEEN COVERAGE OF RECKLES VIOLENCE ISN'T THAT PART OF THE JOB

IT IS PART OF THE JOB, AN THEY HAVE COVERED THE VIOLENCE THAT IS THERE, AND I THINK B AND LARGE THEY HAVE COVERED WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN SEEING.

THAT IS, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY HAVE, AS SOME CRITICIZED, SORT OF AGITATED.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT, I THINK, THE SPECTACLE OF IT ALL AND THE CAMERAS THAT ARE THERE THAT I THINK AMPLIFIES SOME OF THE VIOLENCE AND ACTIONS GOING ON, BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY ARE BEING WATCHED AND THA THEY ARE BEING SEEN, BUT IT'S AN ALTOGETHER DIFFERENT STORY T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT SEEMING VIOLENCE IS ABOUT.

AND, CHARLIE, WHAT'S THE ROLE OF SOCIAL MEDIA IN ALL THIS?

HAS IT BEEN POSITIVE LARGELY HAS IT BEEN NEGATIVE

I THINK LARGELY POSITIVE, I A DAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SORT OF SO-CALLED HASH TAG ACTIVISM OR DIGITAL ACTIVISM AND WONDER HO EFFECTIVE IT CAN BE, I THINK THIS IS A CASE WHERE WE SEE, YOU KNOW, EARLY ON RIGHT AFTER MICHAEL BROWN'S DEATH, SOM QUESTIONS, SOME ATTENTION BY SORT OF MAINSTREAM O TRADITIONAL MEDIA, THE LARGE MEDIA OUTLETS AND SO FORTH, BU REALLY SLOW TO COVER SO THE ROLE OF SOCIAL MEDIA HERE PARTICULARLY ON TWITTER, I THINK, WAS FOR A GROUND SWELL OF PEOPLE TO INTERACT, TO TALK, T SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING, WHAT THEY'RE HEARING ON THE GROUND, AND I THINK THAT REALLY BUILT INTO SUCH A GROUND SWELL THAT OTHER MEDIA OUTLETS THEN SAID, HEY HERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED T COVER.

LET ME CLOSE WITH TWO BIG QUESTIONS I STARTED WITH WHAT IS THE KILLING AND TH VIOLENCE IN ALL OF IT, TELL US ABOUT HOW FAR WE'VE ACTUALLY PROGRESSED IN THE AREA OF RACE RELATIONS IN THIS COUNTRY?

I THINK WE'VE COME A LONG WAY.

I THINK ANYONE WOULD B DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THAT THING TODAY ARE NOT DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE 40 YEARS AGO, 50 YEARS AGO.

WE HAVE AN AFRICAN-AMERICA PRESIDENT.

AN ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO' AFRICAN-AMERICAN PROMINENT LEADERS AND SO FORTH THAT ARE THERE, BUT I THINK WHAT MICHAEL BROWN SHOWS IS THAT TH ISSUE OF RACE AND THE ISSU PARTICULARLY OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AS IT RELATES TO PEOPLE OF COLOR, PARTICULARL AFRICAN-AMERICAN, LATINO MEN, IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAV NOT DEALT WITH, AND SO WHE PEOPLE LOOK AND SAY, THI HAPPENED AND IT HAPPENS TODAY.

IT HAPPENS TOMORROW, IT HAPPENED YESTERDAY, IT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN IN THE SAME WAY, SOME THINGS STILL HAVE NOT BEEN DONE.

WHAT DO WE DO NEXT?

I THINK WE ACT.

I THINK OBAMA, I THINK ATTORNE GENERAL HOLDER ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING SAYING, THIS I SOMETHING WE NEED TO ATTAC SYSTEMICALLY WE NEED TO LOOK AT NOT ONL WHAT'S HAPPENING IN FERGUSON BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON WITH OUR LAWS, WITH OUR POLICY WITH THE WAY THAT WE POLICE OU STREETS AND COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE NATION AND SO I THINK THAT KIND O ACTION, THAT KIND OF CHANG SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE MOVING.

ALL RIGHT, CHARLIE.

THANK YOU SIEGE.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME THANK YOU.

> IN AN AGE OF CITIES, THERE IS ONE VILLAGE THAT IS KNOWN B PEOPLE OF THE WORLD OVER GREENWICH VILLAGE.

THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF GRADE CARTER, EDITOR OF 'VANITY FAIR ONE OF 66 ARTISTS, WRITERS ACTORS AND OTHER NOTABLE NEW YORKERS WHO REMINISCE ABOU THEIR TIME IN THE VILLAGE IN THE NEW BOOK 'GREENWICH VILLAG STORIES: A COLLECTION OF MEMORIES.'

JOINING ME TO TALK ABOUT THE BOOK INCLUDING DOZENS OF FANTASTIC PHOTOGRAPHS IS ANDRE BERMAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR O THE GREENWICH VILLAGE SOCIET FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

ANDREW, WELCOME.

THANK YOU

A WONDERFUL BOOK.

HOW DID IT COME TO BE?

REALLY THE BRAINCHILD OF OU TRUSTEE JUDITH STONE HILL AN AUTHOR IN HER OWN RIGHT A PAST PRESIDENT OF GBSP, PUT TOGETHE MANY BOOKS ABOUT GREENWICH XRILAGE IN NEW YORK AND FELT A GAP WHICH WAS THES REMINISCENCES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE, WHO HAVE MADE THEI LIVES HERE, WHO HAVE COME INTO THEIR OWN AS ARTISTS AND WRITERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE AL FELT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT T GET THIS DOWN ON PAPER, BECAUS WE REALIZED THAT HISTORY AND MEMORIES CAN BE REALLY EPHEMERAL.

IF YOU DON'T CAPTURE THEM, THEY'RE LOST THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

KEEP THE MEMORIES AND THAT HISTORY ALIVE.

YOU HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH THIS PHOTOGRAPH, OF McDOOGLE STREET I LOVE, VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE, AND THE CAFE IS STILL THERE?

YES, IT IS.

AND THE TAVERN IS BACK AS WELL AND WHAT'S WONDERFUL IS, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH ABOUT TH NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED BUT A LOT HAS STAYED THE SAME.

THIS CORNER LOOKS PRETTY SIMILAR TO THE WAY IT DOES TODAY, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE LANDMAR PROTECTIONS WE'VE ALL FOUGHT VERY HARD FOR.

AND THERE'S A SPIRIT THAT THINK IS STILL THERE, EVEN AS WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT THES NEIGHBORHOODS AS SO MUCH HAS CHANGED ABOUT NEW YORK IN THIS TIME

YEAH.

YOU TALK ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF FREEDOM.

IN THE VILLAGE ONE OF THE STORIES IN THE BOOK IS FROM JOHN LEG LEGUASAMO

SURE.

I LOVE JOHN'S STORY FOR SO MAN REASONS INCLUDING THE FACT THA HE'S AN ATORBORO KID LIKE ME THOSE GROWING UP IN NEW YORK CITY, THE VILLAGE WAS A PLAC YOU DISCOVERED AS YOU GOT OLDER, REALIZED OPPORTUNITIES AND POSSIBILITIES THAT MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HAVE IN THE PLACE WHERE YOU GREW UP, AND FOR HIM AS AN ARTIST STARTED OUT KIND OF I THE STANDARD COMEDIAN STAND-UP FORAT.

HE DISCOVERED SOMETHING MORE OPEN-ENDED, PERSONAL EXPRESSIO WAS RIGHT FOR HIM.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF FRIEND WHO LIVE IN FLORIDA WHO SCHEDULE THEIR VACATION OFTEN SO THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE GREENWICH VILLAGE PARADE HALLOWEEN PARADE

YES

AMAZING

YES

AND A STORY ABOUT IT HERE FROM RALPH LEE WHO ORIGINATE THE PARADE AND ACCOMPANIED B THIS INCREDIBLE DRAWING OF SAL STEINBERG THAT CAPTURES FOR ME PERFECTLY THE SPIRIT OF TH HALLOWEEN PARADE

THE IRONY, IT'S NOT OF TH HALLOWEEN PARADE THIS DRAWING WAS DONE A FE YEARS BEFORE THE PARADE STARTE BUT WHERE THE PARADE ORIGINALL RAN.

AND IT'S JUST A VILLAGE STREET SCENE AND 1971, AND TH CHARACTERS AND THE ACTIVITY AR SIMILAR TO WHAT PEOPLE ASSOCIATE WITH THE PARADE, BUT IT WA REALLY AN EVERY DAY FACT OF LIFE IN THE VIMMAGE AT THAT TIME.

A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE HIGHLINE.

WHEN WAS THAT TAKEN?

A GREAT PICTURE TAKEN IN TH 1930s NOT LONG AFTER THE HIG LINE WAS BUILT AND MANY DON' REALIZE THE HIGH LINE USED T RUN THROUGH BUILDINGS LIKE WES BETH BACK WHEN THE OLD BEL TELEPHONE LABS THAT'S THE PIECE HIGH LAND WE LOST.

TORN DOWN IN THE LATE 1980s.

USED TO GO DOWN TO SPRIN STREET THE FORTUNATELY FROM GANFORT NORTH PRESERVED AND REDAPTIVEL USES, A GREAT THEME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TAKING THINGS MEANT FOR ONE PURPOSE AND USING THEM FOR A WONDERFUL NEW PURPOSE.

THE PICTURE IS STRIKING TO THINK THAT ONE DAY IN THE NOT TO DISTANT PAST THERE WERE TRAINS RUNNING THROUGH THAT BUILDING.

RIGHT THROUGH THE BUILDING.

IT WAS BEAUTIFUL WHY WE NEED PRESERVATION SOCIETY.

RIGHT?

ABSOLUTELY.

JOHN HAS A BEAUTIFUL PIEC WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT HOW H MISSES THE BLEAKER STREE CINEMA, AND YOU HAVE A REALL MOODY PHOTOGRAPH OF THE BLEAKE STREET CINEMA, WHICH REFLECT THE KIND OF MOVIES THEY USED T SHOW I USED TO WATCH DOCUMENTARIE THERE.

THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE TH BLEAKER STREET CINEMA ANYMORE.

WHEN DID IT END?

BLEAKER STREET CINEMA SADLY CLOSED IN 1991 AFTER A LONG RUN.

A BELOVED INSTITUTION.

I ALSO SAW GREAT MOVIES THERE.

TODAY YOU CAN SEE THINGS O NETFLIX, OR AT HOME.

AND A LOT OF MOVIES AR ACCESSIBLE, BUT THERE' SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT SHARING SOMETHING IN THE SPACE AND KNOWING THIS WAS ONE OF THE FE PLACES YOU COULD SEE IT.

AND REALLY BLEAKER STREET WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY RESOURCE IN THAT RESPECT.

ONE OF YOUR CONTRIBUTORS IS SHAWN WALENS, AMERICAN HISTORY WRITTEN A LOT OF HISTORY BOOKS AND BIOGRAPHY OF BOB DYLAN HIS FATHER AND UNCLE STARTED THE A STREET BOOK SHOP, THE FAMOUS BOOK SHOP, HAPPENS TO BE THE FIRST STORE I EVER WENT INTO I NEW YORK CITY.

A WONDERFUL PHOTOGRAPH OF TH FIRST A STREET BOOK STORE.

UH-HUH, YES

THAT CLOSED BEFORE BOOK STORES STARTED TO CLOSE?

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE STORY THAT HE TELL, ONLY SOMEBODY A WHO GREW UP WITH THAT BOOK STORE COULD REALL EXPERIENCE BUT THE HISTORY BOOK SHOP WA MORE THAN A BOOK STORE REALLY A HOME BASE FOR AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF WRITERS AN CREATIVE PEOPLE.

LITERALLY, THEY WOULD PICK U THEIR MAIL, GET SUPPLIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT IT WAS A CULTURAL CENTER EVE MORE THAN A BOOK SHOP, AND THE STORY HE TELLS ABOUT ALA GINSBURG AND HOW AFTER THOSE TERRIBLE FIRE, TRIED TO BRING IT BACK IS REALLY INCREDIBLE AN I'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY PEOPLE THAT THE MEMORIES THAT ARE PUT DOWN ON PAPER IN THIS BOOK REALLY TOUCHED THEM, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE STRONG CONNECTIONS TO THEM.

YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE PROBABLY STILL HAS MORE BOOK STORES THAN ANY PLACE ON EARTH BUT SO FEW COMPARED TO WHAT WE USED TO, BUT THIS IS JUST AN INCREDIBLE RECORD OF WHAT LIFE USED TO BE LIKE AND HO IMPORTANT LITERATURE AND THE WRITTEN WORD WAS TO PEOPLE ESPECIALLY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

FINALLY, ANDREW, THE COVER OF YOUR BOOK, IT'S THE CORNER O McDOUGAL AND BLEAKER

YES

THE LEGENDARY FIGURE OF CAFE.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A MYSTERY ATTACHED TO THAT PICTURE WHO IS THAT YOUNG MAN?

HAVE YOU SOLVED THE MYSTERY?

WE HAVE NOT BUT ASK VIEWERS IF ANYBODY HAS HINTS OR CLUES.

THIS IS A PICTURE TAKEN BY THE GREAT PHOTOGRAPHER ROBERT OTTE IN 1965.

THE CORNER OF BLEAKER AN McDOUGAL A YOUNG MAN STANDING THERE THUMBING THROUGH SOME SORT O BOOK IT'S PERFECTLY CAPTURING THE SPIRIT OF THE TIME BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THIS MAN IS AND IF ANYBODY OUT THERE DOE KNOW, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR, BUT EITHER WAY, IT PERFECTLY CAPTURES WHAT THIS BOOK AND WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ABOUT.

ALL RIGHT, A PLEASURE.

THANK YOU

THANK YOU SO MUCH

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