THE BORDER BETWEEN THEN AND NOW: A Conversation with People Threatened with Deportation

Brian Tate | September 9, 2022

Livestreaming on Thursday, September 22, 6:00-7:30 pm ET. 

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What are the moral consequences of the U.S.’s punitive response to migrants, refugees, and asylum seekers? How do anti-immigrant policies and sentiments intersect with historical traumas? What can people threatened with deportation teach us about the imperatives of democracy, the lessons of history, and the work we must do to uphold America’s ideals?

Join us online for THE BORDER BETWEEN THEN AND NOW: A Conversation with People Threatened with Deportation. With Hüsniye Çöğür, Cynthia Garcia, Ravi Ragbir, and Naïscha Vilmé. Moderated by Cristina Jiménez Moreta. Opening performance by Ani Cordero.


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Cristina Jiménez Moreta, Co-Founder, United We Dream

Hüsniye Çöğür
Cynthia Garcia
Ravi Ragbir
Naïscha Vilmé

Opening Performance
Ani Cordero, singer, composer, activist


SOMETIMES WE MUST INTERFERE: Conversations on Confronting Inhumanity  (September 20-22, 2022) is a three-part series of events that will explore America’s response to the Holocaust and other historic traumas; the reckoning we must face when wholesale bigotry and violence are unmet; and what can be done today to stand against those who would injure entire populations in the name of extremism, greed, and hate.  

Presented by The WNET Group, home of America’s flagship PBS station.
Curated by Brian Tate and Mary Burke.
Project management by Jasmine Wilson and LaToya Semple.
Presented in partnership with The WNET Group’s Exploring Hate initiative.

Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men or women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must – at that moment – become the center of the universe.” – Elie Wiesel

Series Schedule

September 20: WE MUST TAKE SIDES: A Conversation about the U.S. and the Holocaust†
September 21: NO LONGER UNIMAGINABLE: A Conversation with Holocaust Survivors*
September 22: THE BORDER BETWEEN THEN AND NOW: A Conversation with People Threatened with Deportation*  

† Hybrid event with in-person presentation held at the Marlene Meyerson JCC Manhattan. 

* Livestreaming at

All programs held 6:00-7:30 pm ET.   

Promotional Partners

Facing History and Ourselves
Selfhelp Community Services

Held in support of The U.S. and the Holocaust, a film by Ken Burns, Lynn Novick & Sarah Botstein. 

FUNDING FOR THE U.S AND THE HOLOCAUST WAS PROVIDED BY: Bank of America; David M. Rubenstein; the Park Foundation; the Judy and Peter Blum Kovler Foundation; Gilbert S. Omenn and Martha A. Darling; The Arthur Vining Davis Foundations; and by the following members of The Better Angels Society: Jeannie and Jonathan Lavine; Jan and Rick Cohen; Allan and Shelley Holt; the Koret Foundation; David and Susan Kreisman; Jo Carole and Ronald S. Lauder; Blavatnik Family Foundation; Crown Family Philanthropies, honoring the Crown and Goodman Families; the Fullerton Family Charitable Fund; Dr. Georgette Bennett and Dr. Leonard Polonsky; The Russell Berrie Foundation; Diane and Hal Brierley; John and Catherine Debs; and Leah Joy Zell and the Joy Foundation. Funding was also provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and by public television viewers.