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Discussion – Carousel

Posted: March 25, 2010
Rodgers and Hammerstein

Rodgers and Hammerstein

CAROUSEL is one of Rodgers and Hammerstein’s musical masterpieces.

What is your favorite Rodgers and Hammerstein film?  Neal Gabbler loves CAROUSEL, because the score “is so mature and lovely.”

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  • rayban

    “Oklahoma” would be my favorite Rodgers and Hammerstein film. But “The King and I” would definitely be a close second.

  • David H

    Please show films the way they were intended to be seen.
    CAROUSEL was a Cinemascope film shot at 2.55:1. Thirteen is showing it in a 16×9 format (1.77:1), so that the sides of the image are missing. We expect better from WNET.
    Does not Fox have an HD version for broadcast?

  • Georgianne Weiss

    I would say The King and I is my favorite R&H musical. The songs linger in your mind long after the film is over. What I really enjoy is how different the characters are but how eventually they find similarities that draw them together. Love it!

  • AA

    I did not like Carousel at all. The story line is horrible and I am a huge fan of Rodgers & Hammerstein. A young girl falls in love with a man twice her age, he beats her then he dies because he is running from the police. Then he comes back from the dead to save his daughter who he then hits and her mother is saying that a hit doesn’t hurt and its about love. I am not trying to read so much into it but really!!?? The beginning is so slow and long and the only dance number that I liked was the daughter’s because it was so beautiful. Otherwise I was disappointed with this film and its musical numbers. I was surprised!!! And don’t get me started on her friend with the older man too and the 9 kids. Actually she did say one line that was great about the kids but still so disappointed. Don’t ever show this film again please.

  • Jennifer P

    South Pacific is my all time favorite. I just adore everything about that movie!

  • Rhiannnonn

    “Carousel” has always been my favorite R&H musical and it has been since I was about 7 years old (Carousel was released in 1956 and I was born the next year). All these years I’ve watched it and I’m still sobbing at the end.

    I have to say it’s amazing how you can see something you never noticed before. While I’ve always known that they left out “Julie’s” verse before her chorus on “If I Loved You,” tonight was the first time that I actually heard the words to “Billy’s” second chorus (at the end) of the movie. Until tonight, I had always thought he never told her he loved her. But she always knew without hearing it.

    It’s too hard to choose what my second-favorite would be. When I start thinking about “Cinderella,” “South Pacific,” “The King and I,” “Oklahoma,” I just don’t know which to choose as second.

    However, I do have to argue with AA on the issue of age: movies are almost always featuring a considerable age difference between the male and female leads. On the issue of the slaps: it’s a MOVIE not real life. As for Carrie and Mr. Snow: I would see having the nine children as a sign of them still being in love and a sign that he kept “it” at home. And don’t even get me started trying to compare one school of dance to another…! They all have their merits. If you don’t like the movies 13 shows, change the channel. I think that 13 has a fantastic taste in movies – I’m never disappointed.

  • rayban

    Regarding “Carousel”, I just don’t understand why they didn’t use Agnes De Mille’s original choreography – instead, they brought in Rod Alexander and he re-conceived it. I do agree that Gordon MacRae looked older than Shirley Jones – but I do think that that age difference might’ve been the point. He was obviously an older, more experienced, more attractive MAN. But he was certainly preferable to their first choice, Frank Sinatra, who would’ve been disastrous, I think. (And did Neal Gabler have to tell us that the man was suffering from the effects of alcoholism?)

  • Nikki

    Carrying AA’s point further, let me suggest that Channel 13 use films like “Carousel” as teaching tool. That abuse (whether it’s spanking a child or slapping a spouse or friend) is wrong. Period. Rhiannonn overlooks the fact that art imitates life. With very few exceptions, i.e., S/F, writers don’t come up with something that don’t already exist (and I’m a writer). Children learn from what they see and read. They don’t pick up toy guns and chase each other around playing cops and robbers, or (in my day) cowboys and Indians, because they came up with the idea themselves. They’re copying what they saw in the movies and on TV. A boy sees a man slap a woman and it’s considered macho or “right because she deserved it” and that boy, as a man, might very well do the same thing. Where do you think he learned it? Yes, from his father or uncle, but it was the film and TV that showed the boy that it was acceptable. These days we’re seeing TV shows and movies with plot lines about abuse, where men (and women) are being arrested for hitting (assault). And from these, today’s children are learning that it’s wrong to hurt another (be it human or animal). Channel 13 would have done a service if it had had a commentary before and following Carousel discussing abuse, and also a comment section here on abuse as depicted in film. It was a missed opportunity. I hope they will take the opportunity next time.

  • Alan

    Carousel is by far my very favorite of all time.
    Gordon MacRae and Shirley Jones were the perfect pair for the movie. The story is so sad, but the singing and dancing were phenomenal. The voices of Gordon MacRae and Shirley Jones were the best I’ve ever heard. I still cry when I see him singing “If I loved you” to Shirley Jones when he has to “Go in the mist of day”. Wish more shows were like that one. The very best!!!