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nothing is better than Dowton Abbey. I love it. Thanks, thirteen!
What is the background on using terminology like “suck up” –twice — in the Spanish flu episode? So scandalous!
Or that the Bates wedding was “husband and wife”? when it wasn’t even accepted to be anything but “man and wife” until the late 20th century? The writing needs to be careful!
I believe the “husband and wife” option was used in general practice — at least it has come up in a great many Brit productions I’ve seen. Believe the “suck up” reference has been dealt with by some Season 2 commenters and these may still be available online.
The idiom suck it up meaning to stoically endure hardship in order to achieve
some objective, or meet expectations, seems to have started to gain currency in the mid-1970s.
A somewhat graphic etymology put forward in Urban dictionary is that it’s pilot slang. If you vomit into your mask, you’d better suck it up. Otherwise, you can inhale it and die. I can’t deny that may be true – but I’d rather not think about it too much!
Here’s a Wiktionary “talk” page dismissing the WW2 pilot slang origin. Their actual entry for the phrase says it probably derives from “suck up one’s chest”, but I must say “suck in one’s stomach”is more common for stand tall and straight, stoically ready to be judged/subjected to adversity. Whatever – I’ll just say the origin is “uncertain”.
The italicising of suck it up and go is by OP. The and go [to the baptism] isn’t part of the idiom – it’s just the hardship to be endured in this particular case (the aunt obviously doesn’t want to go if she’sstill not to honoured as a godparent).
Obviously this idiom is unrelated to suck it and see (try out an idea). Interestingly, there’s also suck it all in (to wholeheartedly embrace all aspects of a novel experience or environment). But to suckin the sense of “be inferior” also got started in the 70′s,
Heavens, this is not optimum. When I think how so many other series on THIRTEEN are dead on for verisimilitude… you’re right, this won’t do at all. Thanks for bringing this up.
I’m with you. As fond as I am of Downton Abbey, it is without a doubt the very shoddiest when it comes to period vernacular. Everything from telling the staff to “get on board” to putting things “on the back burner”—so sloppy. In my humble opinion, it stands in the way of greatness.
What clunk so dissonantly even in memory are “nasty piece of work” and “party person”. !!!??!!
It’s been so bewildering that with absolute and groundbreaking brilliance like Call the Midwife and (esp the first seasons of) Sherlock and Wallander, the gloating on PBS would be for Dullton Abbey. I suppose it must be that it is so much like terrible network television that it’s been so popular – but does that mean that PBS will hope to produce more like it?? I DREAD the new season broadcast for the endless (undeserved and apparently unnecessary) gloating and promotion and for the very precious little good program real estate it will be taking up….
I have been a fan of Masterpiece Theatre for all my life, but 2012 brought us Downton Abbey, Call the Midwife, Sherlock Holmes, not to mention all the old faithfuls from Masterpiece Mystery….it is getting better and better!!!!!! I also love the Nature programs, Nova Science Now …..on and on and on, just the best TV has to offer!!!! BRAVO!!!!!!!
Downton Abby is like the film Titanic. Over blown, over-rated, bad writing, pompous actors, they look like television made for billionares.
I can’t agree with you more. The script is so weak, some silly plots were there only for the sake of being there, without contributing anything to the develop of characters or the story line, and the writer himself seemed to forget about them why they were there(e.g., the Earl of Grantham’s affair with the maid).
Some lines in particular seemed to try to be clever, yet only end up gilding the lily. For example, when the dowager countess says Martha Levinson reminds her of ‘the virtues of the English,’ the conversation could have ended there and that line could have been a punch line by having the audience figuring out what it means by themselves, yet Julian Fellowes seemed to think that the audience were not capable of that,so he had Matthew ask ‘but isn’t she American’ and the dowager countess answer ‘exactly, my dear boy.’ Just to make it straight, I don’t mean that without the redundancy it would have been a good joke.
just to quickly chime in, if I remember correctly, the “affair” with the maid was happening during a period of tension or distance between the Earl and his wife. it wasn’t there for no reason. There was an attraction between him and the maid, and she paid attention to him in a way others weren’t doing, plus the taboo-ness of the association showed that a hardcore conservative traditionalist like the Earl was becoming vulnerable to the attraction of rule-bending and following passion. but in the end he chose to remain faithful to his wife, showing committment to values he held dear. if i’m off with this, so be it, but i found your specific critique to be a little unfounded.
I too thought the Earl of Grantham’s affair with the maid would develope more. In my mind, the maid graciously and respectfully left Downton to protect the reputations of Lord Grantham, Downton and herself because she was carrying Grantham’s child unbeknown to anyone but herself. I imagined she would later resurface with the male heir (albeit out of wedlock) that everyone was so desparate to deliver, therefore challenging any “ligitimate” later male heir to Downton. This plot, I thought, would show how changes in attitude and protocol woud be thrust upon the Downton house while adding juicy scandal, conflict, drama and another scenario for a storyline.
terribly disappointed that you killed off William
correction: not William but Matthew
Rarely have I been as disappointed in a PBS presentation as I have been with Mr. Selfridge, the casting of the leading role being the greatest shortcoming.
I am afraid I am in full agreement with Linda, the casting of Mr. Selfridge just did not work-the character was not believable. He lacked the charisma needed to pull it off and make Selfridge real.
You both could not be more wrong. You may dislike him for being adulterous and no heart throb, but he is the exactly right combination of high energy, Napoleonic aggression, certainty, followed by regret, despair and self-doubt that the part demands. Who else would you place there? Richard Dreyfuss might pull it off but a bit long in the tooth for this.
I have been enjoying Mr Selfridge. I am looking forward to the final episode because I am curious how it will end. I think there has not been enough credit given
to this show.
this is Not to be the only season. Many relationships blossoming and challenges ahead.
Is Masterpiece Mystery! going to offer the adaption of John Banville’s novels with the character of Quirke, played in the series by Gabriel Bryne?
Great idea. He writes under the name Benjamin Black
Lewis and Hathaway always phenomenal as was Morse but I think that the end has come for Lewis and Hathaway as depicted on “Intelligent Design”. Lewis retires and Hathaway goes back to the seminary. I guess, Dexter Collins decided not to write any other chapters but I hope I’m very, very wrong
A minor correction: Colin Dexter was the author of the Inspector Morse mystery series.
The last episode of Inspector Lewis left me wondering if they’ve written that series to end (permanently): Since Inspector Lewis is retiring and Hathaway is resigning??
Can anyone tell me what the boys’ choir was singing in the beginning of the Endeavor Home I that aired on Sunday night, July 28th???
Dee – July 30
Are you fundraising again!!!! I look forward to Masterpeice every Sunday eve and am ver;y disappointed when you are doing fundraising. It seems after every seried you do this. Isn’t there another way. I am a supporter and am really turned off by this!
Those who can should send larger amounts to support PBS or we will have more of the likes of the Koch Brothers, Walmart, and other undesireable backers who may then interfere with programming. You get what you pay for. If you can manage $100 or even more = keep PBS on air and without interference.
Everyone is — but, if it didn’t get contributions this way, PBS would not do the pledge drive. Public radio does the same thing. Any better ideas of how to raise LOTS of money, especially from small donors? 1 hr. programs like Masterpiece are not interrupted. They are curtailed by a few minutes. Only long, entertainment “specials” are interrupted. You are a responsible watcher. How did you decide to “join.”
No way could anyone else have played the Selfridge role as well as Jeremy does. He is Mr. Selfridge. M
Sherlock is really garbage TV. The two actors come across as pompous and arrogant. Even the writer of the series, Steven Moffat when he writes an episode, looks like he ran out of ideas years ago.
Endeavour is a waste of Television. I liked Inspector Lewis much better.
@Robbie Moraes: I agree. I made the mistake of ordering the DVD from Amazon.UK in order to see the full episodes and because I absolutely loathe Alan “Tightpants” Cumming. Was I ever disappointed! The episodes are so boring and difficult to follow that I had to watch them several times to understand what was happening. “Inspector Lewis” wasn’t all that interesting either, but it was better than “Endeavor.”
Are you still showing programs with the character “Jackson” ?
It is “Case Histories” and the detective is Jackson Brodie. One was on tonight Aug 22 at 9 pm.
1. Matthew died because the actor didn’t renew his contract — I thought it could have been done more subtly, though.
2. When I’m glued to Downton Abbey, I am not nit-picking about language or verisimilitude. I’m loving it! I guess, if you’re sitting on the couch with a notebook, watching for errors — you must enjoy trashing things that other people enjoy. Have fun!
it’s impossible to ignore how bad the many bad things about it are. Obviously. That’s why we’ve noticed. Lucky you, though.
I would love to get information about the music that Jackson plays in Case Histories. Does anyone have any information about this?
I know at least some of it is Lucinda Williams.
sherlock is unwatchable, too arrogant souless creatures with no interest in being flawed humans with depth, pls bring back Zen ! an adult drama so well crafted i cringed to see so few episodes , case studies a fantastic drama and the bleechy circle…people with soul… oh and pls stop killing beautiful women in every mystery…its disgusting and exploitative…can’t woman live in peace and without fear in at least one show… really … women are people too who need to go to bed at night with some dignity …thought pbs could afford that…
@clawd: I agree. I made a point of “trying” to watch the “Hound of the Baskervilles” episode and it was awful. I’m surprised PBS chose to present this yawner to American audiences. The fact it is, apparently, popular in Britain is amazing!
Although I would have been overjoyed had Bates (Downton Abbey) been hanged, at least he’s out of prison and we don’t have to be bored by those inane prison scenes! I ordered all the Downton Abbey episodes on DVD from Amazon.UK and fast-forward through the Bates prison scenes. I wasn’t the only one who despised Bates, I Googled “hate Bates” and discovered many people wish he’d been hanged!
“Silk” is a soap opera with lawyers. No focus at all. I’m sorry I wasted a blank DVD recording it.
This has been one of the best seasons in recent years for Mystery fans. New lineup including DCI banks, Endeavour, & Silk has been fabulous. Much better than social dramas.
what channel does this come on???
really wanna know what channel this comes on…i have direct-tv
When will “Silk” part 1 be aired again? Missed it and would like to view on our wide TV.
Will PBS ever rerun the original Inspector Morse episodes? Would love to see them again.
Well, I’m finally going to cancel my sustaining membership. What made Masterpiece special was its length – it differentiated Sunday evening from any other time. I looked forward to settling in, leaning back and watching 90 minutes of a program, It’s the leisure, the chance to become involved, that you’ve lost. Now the programs are rushed and in order to please so many with so much, you’ve destroyed the illusion that the program and the people who brought it to us were willing to give us their best.
One of the greatest series from across the Pond. Why do the Britt’s get it so right when it comes to this.
Wasn’t there supposed to be an eighth episode of “The Paradise,” or did I miss it?