Department of Environmental Conservation Commissioner Discusses Fracking

| September 8, 2011 11:08 AM | Updated: September 14, 2011 6:00 AM video

Hydraulic fracking in Burlington, PA. The Department of Environmental Conservation's most recent report on the benefits and risks of fracking in New York could pave the way for the state to issue permits. AP/Ralph Wilson.

On Sept. 13, New York State’s Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Joe Martens gave an exclusive interview to the Capitol Report‘s Susan Arbetter about hydraulic fracking in the state. The commissioner defended the DEC’s 96-day public comment period on the controversial issue and offered somewhat vague insight into the DEC’s plans to examine the safety of fracking in flood-prone areas.

On Sept. 7, the DEC released a long-awaited full draft of its report on the economic benefits, as well as the social and environmental risks, of hydraulic fracking in the state.

“Fracking,” as the controversial drilling message is commonly called, is the method of extracting natural gas from shale rock far below the Earth’s surface using a mixture of water and chemicals.

The release of the report ushers in a public comment period that lasts until Dec. 12, thus extending the original plans from a 60-day period to 96 days.

Environmental groups say that due to the 1,500-page length and complexity of the report, the period should be extended to 180 days, reported Gotham Gazette. The gas industry, on the other hand, believes the 60-day comment period was sufficient, reported Reuters.

When Arbetter asked Martens if the DEC would consider extending the comment period, he responded, “We’re not considering extra time at this point. 96 days is actually the formal public coment period and we’ve committed to four public hearings. We’re still working on the locations…but we have a bit of logistical work to do.”

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The Capitol Report’s Susan Arbetter in an exclusive interview with New York State DEC Commissioner Joe Martens. Martens discusses fracking, flood planes and the public comment period. Video courtesy of WCNY.

In November, the DEC will hold four open meetings for the public to express their opinions on the report. The locations of those meetings will be released in October. It’s likely that a decision will be made on whether to lift the ban on fracking and issue drilling permits as early as January, when the final version of the DEC report comes out. If the comments popping up all over the web are any indication, these meetings are going to be volatile.

“One hundred years from now when the entire state is poisoned, what good will all the money and energy we’ll have burned do? Thanks Dems!” read one comment on the New York Times’ website.

What the frack? Fracking has become a highly contentious issue between advocates, who argue the drilling technique can generate a massive boom in energy, jobs and tax revenue, and opponents, who argue fracking is environmentally toxic and tends to be weakly regulated, detrimental to poor communities and furthers the nation’s dependence on unsustainable energy sources.

Following the rare and devastating northeastern flooding that resulted from the one-two punch of tropical storms Irene and Lee, many politicians, environmental groups and residents are now concerned that another major flood could cause fracking chemicals to be released into storm waters.

Under current fracking rules, drilling isn’t allowed within 100 feet of a flood plane, but in light of recent events, FEMA is currently looking into redrawing the flood plane maps, said Martens. But Martens noted how FEMA is currently plagued by a lack of fiscal resources — a battle over those resources is currently playing out in Congress.

On the Capital Report, Martens said, “We’re obviously going to be looking at whether flood plains ought to be remapped,” but he then went on to say “we are not looking specifically at the issue of flooding and hydrofracking in New York.”

Buried treasure. The DEC report explores the prospective economic benefits of fracking within the state in detail, reported the Wall Street Journal. The report says that fracking could bring 29,000 new jobs to the state, and generate anywhere from $621 million to $2.5 billion. Natural Gas and Energy companies say that drilling is safe in any location, and criticize the DEC report for advise against drilling in State Parks, as well as the following proposed regulatory measures.

  • Full disclosure of all chemicals used in the drilling process.
  • Monitoring of wastewater.
  • In-depth plans for transporting waste and gas.
  • Preemptive limits to noise and aesthetic disruption caused by drilling sites.

Aqueducts and inadequacy. There are many reasons opponents take issue with fracking, but Eric Goldstein, director of the Natural Resources Defense Council’s New York chapter, wrote a blog post on Tuesday which addressing his initial concerns with the DEC report itself, which he said lacks significant regulatory suggestions and environmental data. Goldstein said the NRDC will be scrutinizing the report int he coming months, but he major qualms on first-read were:

  • The report doesn’t address the risk of fracking in the flood-plains. Given the intense flooding caused by Tropical Storm Irene in many areas where fracking would likely occur, natural gas drilling in these areas could easily result in environmental disaster.
  • The report does not propose any measures to protect rural communities from the risks of rapid industrialization.
  • Fracking would generate tens of millions of gallons of toxic wastewater, but the state does not have any water treatment plants equipped to handle the content or volume of the wastewater.
  • While the report advises protections against drilling int he unfiltered watersheds for New York City and Syracuse, it barely provides protections for the aqueducts and tunnels that transport water to drinking-water reservoirs. Goldstein says this is an “unreasonable risk” from a public health and emergency preparedness position.

As Goldstein bluntly voiced, “Hold onto your hats, folks.  The forthcoming public review process is going to be a wild and bumpy ride.”

  • Stella Warwick

    anything that puts our most precious resource water at risk should be outlawed – let’s use and develop other energy systems – trap the power of wind – sun – ocean – i’m sure there are creative minds out there that could come up with marvelous solutions – why not make it a competition with big, big money prizes – at least that won’t hurt the environment or people – let’s use some common sense here and take “GREED” off the table

  • Gary

    “The report doesn’t address the risk of fracking in the flood-plains.” As of today, in Pa and NY that is saying quite a bit

  • James Bazza

    Why can’t these people create power the “green” way. I think that with the upstate watershed’s pourous lanscape, the chemicals will probably mix with ground water and underground springs and create a “love canal” horror show that would last generations. Let’s stop thinking about the cash this will generate. We live in NYS and would like an environment that isn’t toxic.

    • Mario Richards

      The Green Jobs are being created in China and India. Wind power is shredding bats and migratory birds. You would have to cover the entire southwest with solar cell.

      It is amazing how the greenies are willing to look the other way.

      If we could come up with a non toxic fraking fluid it would you still be against it.

      New York needs the jobs and the revenue from the gas royalties

      The wells are steel and concrete lined and well below the aquifer.

      TO say no is just silly

      • gary

        yeah and the oil rigs in the gulf were safe too. sh*t happens and it shouldn’t include the drinking water of anyone.

      • ALEXIS GRASSO

        You are correct @ wind power’s effects on wildlife; fracking may be implicated in earthquakes; ocean turbines have a “cuisinart” effect on wildlife. Yes, the quest for power is a dirty business and fraught. We humans need to be wise stewards of the planet and solar arrays seem to be the cleanest solution so far. ps: The ecosystem we call “home” is more important than any economic considerations, don’t you think?

      • Steve

        As long as you drink the water and shower with it.Obviously you didn’t do your research.As we speak,there is one company that has a wind machine that attaches to the house much like a satellite dish.It collects wind from any direction.I agree with you on these giant wind turbines.They will be soon be obsolete.Then there is the company that has a spray you can put on your windows that replicates solar panels.So they are soon to be obsolete.The water from fracking is contaminated and getting into the water supply.I have seen countless people who have been affected by this.So drink the water and shower in it.I think you will soon find out how silly you are.

    • Justin

      The water table is typically only a few hundred feet deep, maybe 800-1000 feet at the deepest, and that is being very liberal.
      Fracking is done at depths of 7000-10000 feet deep depending on the depth and thickness of the shale in the specific area. There are various geological formations between the marcellus shale and the water table and underground springs, check out a geological depth chart some time.
      As long as the well bore penetrating the water table is sufficiently cased (which means they cover the well bore in steel pipe/casing, a layer or cement, another steel pipe or casing, another layer of cement, and yet another casing of steel pipe) there is realistically no risk of water contamination from the frack fluids being pumped into the ground, of which most are removed anyway.

  • Ben

    Water is overrated.

    • deb

      May I please watch you die of dehydration, Ben, please I just want to watch, while I drink water, of course.

      • Deborah Horn

        He was the only light-hearted comment here. He was joking deb.

  • Steve R

    Tesla invented a way of harnessing electricity from cosmic waves that does
    not need wind or sun light. Tesla style gathering arrays could run 24/7 regardless
    of weather conditions. Fossil fuel is just all around bad. Getting it , using it
    everything. How about unlimited clean electric energy. The electric companies
    have known about this for 50 years and have covered it up. You could build one
    for your house for less then 500 dollars

  • Robert

    See documentary film “Gasland”
    This is what will be coming to your town with fracking.

    • jake

      If you research the film Gasland, you’ll find that the incident with them lighting the water on fire etc., etc., was a previous condition that the home owner had experienced long before any fracking took place in his area.

      • Lily

        Jake, if that is the case, why did other home owners shown in the movie experience the same incident? The answer can be found by looking at the water system. Water *does not* stay in the same place. When shale rock is broken up during the fracking process, the chemicals and the natural gas get released into aquifers. And guess what happens to that water…it moves! And eventually it makes its way into houses like the ones shown in Gasland. I live in New York and have my entire life. I do not want to see my family, neighbors, friends, and other New Yorkers face the health issues that will result from hydrofracking.

        • jake

          Lilly maybe you should you go back to the 6th grade? Have you taken any college level Geology courses?? did you research the issues with Gasland???? You are absolutely Incorrect ….. look at the fracking cross section diagrams that are available on the web, and they will show you that it takes place well below the Acquifers…

  • jake

    Let the fracking begin …. you sick demented people, stopping every single item that seeks to foster growth in America and potentially help us produce our own energy. We currently have over 9% unemployment, new industries are needed….
    The EPA found no fault with fracking!! It occurs thousands of feet below the water table! What don’t you people get??? I guess we should all ride horse’s again and give all our money to countries who hate us?? The Hippie’s have come of age! from 60′s/70′s to running all the “Sierra type” environmental groups we now have today.. .
    how could “The Greatest Generation” give birth to the “The Worst Generation”…..

    • chuck

      Hey Jake, How do you feel about spill-over contamination onto farmland and grazing land – fracking on private land is almost impossible to monitor. Water and food contamination is not something “hippie hysteria” is exaggerating.

      • jake

        what spill over?? from where?? what are you talking about????

    • Lily

      you seriously need to go back to 6th grade and learn a processes called the water system

      • Lily

        cycle*

        • Justin

          Lily, unfortunately for you, Jake is correct that the water cycle that you are refering to typically only operates in the first few hundred feet below the earth’s surface, granted in same areas it may be deeper but never even within a few thousand feet of where fracking occurs. And if you look at a geological depth chart you will see all the different formations of rock, clay, shales, etc that separate the water table from the marcellus shale where fracking is occuring.

  • Joseph Dacciaio

    i think the bp oil spill and the exxon oils spill and the various oil spills of lately show that nothing is full-proof we need to make the drilling companies transparent on there procedures and have suffecient backup plans in effect in case something goes wrog i think the overwhelming money involced and the chance for jobs creation is overshadowing the risk factors that once affected cant be reversed we need to make sure the technology is there in place in case of a accident and monitering from a seperate party must be adhereed to without resistance from the companies

  • Paul

    No amount of study will accurately tell you the environmental impact in 100 years.. how about 200 years? or beyond! There is no study to tell you where that water ends up eventually after it has had a 50 years to travel underground…

    In many parts of the country, states are left dealing with environmental issues long after the “$Advocates” made their money and moved on leaving huge footprints which impact the environment today despite whatever song and dance they gave the state governments to have their way.

    In New York, we’re still dealing with the poison that lines the bottom of Husdon courtesy of GE’s $advocacy.

    This is a rinse and repeat formal. They’re going to do it to the environment and our children yet again.

  • jake

    200 years from now?? are you kidding me? The earth could be hit by a huge asteroid…. who knows what could happen …. In the mean time we should sit idle while Pennsylvania and other states reap billions and billions of dollars and create thousands and thousand of jobs??? and remember the product we pull up from fracking CREATES NO EMISSIONS when utilized!! CLAEN BURNING…..

    Let me repeat that —> “The EPA has found no issue with fracking”

    You people are against every form of progress for America….

    • Marisa

      Destruction is not progress. Fracking as a solution for today’s economic condition has the potential for disastrous long-term effects. We have a tendency in this country to act quickly while neglecting to thoroughly consider possible consequences, especially if there are profits to be made. If we have the option to supplement our massive energy demands by means that have little to no environmental impact, what is the purpose of choosing one that could potentially cause the destruction of an essential resource and harm to millions of people? One option has a con list that goes on for miles, and the other is negligible. I just don’t see the sense in it. I see the dollar signs.

    • Steve

      People like you can’t be talked to,because your mind is already closed.What is your definition of progress?

      • jake

        your the one with the closed minds …..

  • K. Perry

    No amount of energy or jobs is worth risking our water supply. When you have to start paying to take a clean shower what good will your energy savings do you then? Corporations are more than willing to pollute other people’s water supplies for their own profit. And even then – the savings will not be passed on to you!

  • HENRY

    someone please watch GASLANDS to see what is going to happen. this is real people, wake up.

    • Justin

      Gasland is the opposite of real. It is totally biased and one-sided in it’s approach, it is basically an anti-gas commercial. There is nothing objective about it.

  • David

    Arkansas Earthquakes Decline After ‘Fracking’ Injection Well Closures
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/15/arkansas-earthquakes-2011-fracking_n_835868.html

  • jake

    Where does it explicitly state that fracking will ruin the entire water supply? or where has it already ruined the water supply??? If you can find this informtion I’d like to see it ….

  • jake

    GASLAND is BS …. do your research …. you cowards

    • Steve

      The only coward is you.I want to see you drink that yellow water.And if you have any relatives,make sure they drink it too.And don’t forget to shower with it too.As Red Forman says”D.A.”

      • jake

        steve you must live under a rock somewhere ….just keep letting America fall behind … no fracking, no off shore drilling, no nuclear power, no windmills they block your view, no oil …. no anything??? how do you want to power the future??? oh solar panels that’s right … they’re still years away from electrical grid parity…what should we do on the mean time?? people like you want nothing NIMBY …. it’s become a religous cult …. all the while our country suffers …. its very sad

  • jake

    This is why everyone eventually leaves New York State ….it’s incredbile to get any iota of anything started or passed here …. it’s a good thing the majority of the city was built in the 1920′s … could you imagine trying to build a brand new bridge / tunnel /public works project now? good lord is would take 10 years just for the impact study to be completed …. and to think they built the Empire State Building in a year …. it’s a shame what has happened to us …. we’ve become fat, lazy, rich and spoiled ……..

    • dave harris

      who’s paying off jake? i want some of that dough

      • chuck

        Absolutely right!!

  • charles campbell

    Casino Gambling has been in New Jersey for 33 years now, Imagine how many jobs and revenue could have generated in New York over those years. Now we have the opportunity to develop another industry, and created jobs, and we try to kill it. Look there are risk associated with everything you do, so what are we going to do nothing and watch all the jobs and people dissaper, then who will drink the ultra clean water.

  • Steve Watkins

    You New Yorkers who are opposed to fracking are so used to Washington bailing you out at every turn that you can no longer find your own way in life. This is a typical response from people who’s state workers drive the state into banruptcy by forming unions and do nothing productive at work except count the days until they can retire. Yeah you know what I am talking about – now stop it.

    Rather than reaching for the bullhorn to complain, you need to do a little bit of math and apply a little bit of science. One of the previous posts suggests using wind, solar, and ethanol. On what basis are those sources better than natural gas? Despite all of the rhetoric you will hear from your liberal heroes, thise technologies are NOT environmentally friendly!!!! Why don’t you calculate how many wind farms are needed to produce the same energy as natural gas. Do similar calculations for ethanol and solar energy. The fact is that natural gas is THE MOST ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY ENERGY SOURCE ON THE PLANET. The fact is that we have more of it in these United States than any country on earth. The fact is that we have been doing hydraulic fracturing in this country for over half a century and we have developed environmentally safe practices for applying this technology. The fact is that this technology not ony produces needed energy in this coundtry but it CREATES THOUSANDS OF JOBS!!! And you people are against it.

    To get a fresh perspective on this issue, please read a book called “Power Hungry” by Robert Bryce.

    • Wonder Boy

      Fracking will go over big in upstate NY because those folks have been at the poverty level for a very long time. The Catskills and the Adirondacks are basket cases along with Western NY going out to PA. The number of jobs that will be created will be the deciding factor. As for the water resources becoming polluted I do not really think that those folks give a sh!t one way or the other. Weather they will be compromised is still a open question.

  • jake

    Dave, I wish someone were paying me off but this is not the case … i’m just fed up with malaise that’s over taken our great country …….. look, nobody wants Love canal again or any other issue but we have to start trying new technologies that have great promise and moving forwards ….we can’t fear every single thing ….what happened to America being bold?? We’ve lost our fight ….. Fracking so far, has the potential for that great promise. The upstate economies have been slowly dying since the 50′s … this is something that could turn everything around, while producing clean burning energy ….just look at how much the state of Pennsylvania has recently benefited from all the fracking projects going on …. billions and billions of dollars … the gas has to come from somewhere, why not from own backyard? ….it also means billions less for countries that hate us ….

  • Tom

    EPA says don’t poison NYC drinking water but the rest of us are acceptable losses.

  • jake

    Where has fracking poisoned a state’s/town’s water supply?? I think there was one incident in which an above ground pipe leaked and some animals died ……… there are dozens of accidents, dozens of chemical spills and dozens of work related deaths that occur across a broad spectrum of American industries … should we ban all of those industries as well??

  • gary

    it will come down to jobs or poisoned drinking water . which is more important. some will say jobs, and with the salary buy yourself a water filter. i kind of like washing in clean water and drinking it too.

  • jake

    I do think the oil/gas industry should have come up with a better name instead of “fracking” … something more friendly like “Gentle Earth Gas Extraction” …. it might have been met with much less opposition from the get go ….

    :)

  • Concerned Earthling

    Guess what was being done around the time of the most recent earthquake that emanated from Virginia and rocked the east coast of the U.S.?

  • Rob

    Whenever I do any work along the river, diapers are required on all equipment so that not a drop of oil falls into the water. Yet with fracking, there will be thousands of unaccounted for gallons of highly polluted water going back into the ground. Does this sound right?

  • jake

    right …so now a little fluid injection is shifting the North East Tectonic Plates … OMG we’re doomed as a nation …..

  • jake

    oil leaks naturally from the bottom of every ocean in world …. remember the Earth made oil …. so it strange? no …..

  • si1964

    Jake is my hero!!!
    Unfortunately we have become a nation of watchers rather than doers. We watched as 4 countries have surpassed us in competitiveness. We watched as the Russians and Chinese take over outer space. We watch as the White House “invests” in good clean green technology like Solydra with $535 million in US Taxpayer funds only to go bankrupt.
    For God’s sake it makes you want to root for an asteroid to come and wipe us all out. If these people were alive in 1775 we’d all be sipping Earl Grey tea. People!! No Guts No Glory. You can’t continue to over analyze every aspect of our lives.

  • sigusmunt Kreusz

    So called “fracking” is, in reality, using an explosive reaction to smash up small, layered rock structures underground which “might” have a tiny amount of hydrocarbononaceous natural gas”. It is the geological equivalent of fishing for cod with dynamite. For each cod you get with a stick of dynamite, you render the water ever morefilthy and useless, and make the entire ocean impossible to live in. With the Hydro-fracturing ofrockstrata, there is the persistent problem of movement of effluent drilling fluids into fresh water bearing strata. There is NO WAY to positively prevent this.
    Exxon and others are advertising that they “know what they’re doing”-like BP, I suppose. And that the process is as safe as your baby’s bottle. But Exxon will be long gone when the problems appear, and will simply use the courts to refuse to take responsibility. It’s cheaper to buy decisions, delays and lawyers then to behave responsibly.
    The dumbest thing about it is that we don’t even need the gas from these difficult to reach and hard to drill areas now. Nor is there enough gas down there to make it a truly worthwhile effort, regardless of our sour economy. The jobs from Frcking will disappear like the ice on upstate lakes in spring and summer.The difference is that , unlike the ice, the gas jobs won’t ever come back.. The only thing long term about fracking is the crap and poison in the drinking water.
    And we sure don’t need to pollute our drinking and bathing water forever to get enough gas to cook one lousy holiday turkey. I hope mankind’s last big wars are not over the rights to clean water in old Northeast and European rock formations. It would be ironic if we forwent the possibility of having clean water in order to fight over qho gets a last whiff of long dead bacteria.

  • joz

    The only people that want fracking are the GOP, grab more money, pay no tax.

    • si1964

      Pay no tax? Really? Wow so whats happening to all that money taken out of my check each week?
      As for not paying taxes, isn’t that a problem that half the OWEbama administration suffers from? And Charles Rangel? Last I checked they’re all DemoCRAPS.
      The problems with LiberLIARs is they preach equality but think THEY’RE above all others.

      • gary

        not you paying tax, the oil industry. you aren’t the sharpest bulb in the ocean are you?

  • warrior-woman

    So if fracking is as earth-friendly and harmless as Jake and a few others on this thread claim, then how come the natural gas and energy companies are criticizing the DEC for saying there should be full disclosure of all chemicals used in the drilling process, monitoring of waste water, in-depth plans for transporting waste and gas, and limits to noise and aesthetic disruption caused by drilling sites? It would seem to me if those companies are as snuggly and loveable as they want us to believe they are, and to believe that they are NOT just in it for the profit, the hell with everything else, that they would be willing to work with these issues rather than merely condemn them outright and expect us to take their words that everything will be okay. Sorry, but knowing as I do that the only thing corporations really care about is there bottom line, that’s not good enough for me. Frack no, don’t let them blow!

    • si1964

      So what I think you’re saying is we shouldn’t frack. We shouldn’t drill off shore. We shouldn’t drill in ANWR. We shouldn’t mine for coal.
      I might actually take you seriously if you turned off your electricity, shut off your gas and traded your car in for a bicycle.
      Amazies me to no end how hypocritical people like you are. Let there be a power outage in which lose your electricity for a couple of days and you’ll scream bloody murder. I think you should embrace it and learn to live off the Earth naturally. Just leave the rest of us alone.

      • warrior-woman

        si1964 – you lash out blindly at me for not enthusiastically embracing fracking, as if I do not have the right to my own opinion, yet you do not address the point of my post, namely, if this process is as low-impact and repercussion-free as the energy and gas companies claim, WHY ARE THEY SO VIGOROUSLY FIGHTING HAVING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR HOW THEY EXECUTE IT? Could it be that they know something we don’t? FYI I do not have a car, and when I first moved into the abandoned building I built into my house I spent 6 months without electricity and two years without running water, taking showers in the fire hydrant across the street. So don’t be such a snide little troll, I doubt you could have lived under the conditions I so willingly did.

  • vincent Maher

    objecting to fracking is not malaise. Any report the government creates is subject to scrutiny because government has consistently lied to us about practically everything for decades. sad but true. the amount of environmental upheaval is proof positive the Earth is fighting back/for its very life. We never had weather years ago the likes of which we’ve seen recently.

    • si1964

      Good point. I mean that whole BP fiasco last summer just proves you can’t trust the government. I mean wasn’t it George W Bush’s admisnitration that approved that deep well drilling? Wait a minute, that’s right it wasn’t, it was the OWEbama administration that approved a very risky process. But I guess when you’ve been the biggest recipient of BPs political contributions you look the other way. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html
      Kind of like the whole Solyndra fiasco don’t you think?

  • Ilya

    Fracking occurs below water table. How do you think it gets there ? You have to go THROUGH aquifer with all those chemicals. And why does anybody think that these solvents do not permeate through faults in the rock? Make water undrinkable and convert state parks into toilets of civilization.

    • si1964

      I’m trying to follow your point here. So the wells that will be steel and concrete lined will actually leak? Causing all those poisonous gases we’re trying to capture to seep into our water table, right?
      But they’re NOT seeping through the shale, Huh?
      Hey wait a minute. I’ve got a great solution now. Lets just line the wells with shale. There you have it, problem solved.

  • Steve Watkins

    sigusmunt Kreusz, fracking is
    “an explosive reaction to smash up small, layered rock structures underground which “might” have a tiny amount of hydrocarbononaceous natural gas”. It is the geological equivalent of fishing for cod with dynamite.”

    Thank you for your lecture. Where do you get your information from – comic books? Why don’t you go get an engineering degree before you start lecturing. You don’t know anything about this technology.

  • jake

    Again …can anybody tell me where there is one example of how “fracking’ has pollluted a state’s/town’s water ???

    and yes Vincent, it is a malaise. It’s disgusting what happened to America.
    Just think, we have over 9% unemployement and we sit here and argue about producing our own clean natural gas creating billions of dollars of tax revenue and jobs??? It’s insanity…You think if NYS allows fracking it’s going to be done by anywhere near a watershed??? Not a chance…It will be so over regulated like everything else in this state.

    Oh and Earth is fighting for it’s very survival? Come one, you really think that?? There have been countless ice ages and Geological tranistions dating back millions of years…..remember we were getting Acid rain in 70′s !??? what happened to that??? Never came to pass.

    Funny all the Sierra club types couldn’t wait to kill of Nuclear Energy and then the former head of Greenpeace, yes that’s right GREENPEACE comes out and said he made a huge mistake by opposing Nuclear Energy, realizing that a hundred pound of radioactive waste was far far better then the millions of metric tons of pollution all the coal fired plants spewed out as a result Nuclear Industry being brought to it’s knees …. I bet most of the people who opposed this are also baby boomers approaching retirement ….. “The Worst Generation” …. Go way all of you …..go live off the land in some New Mexico Commune or something …..

  • Barbara

    Can I ask a serious question? why does the water have to have chemicals added in order to frack? why can just water pressure be enough to create the cracks and crevices? and if that were possible (no chemicals), wouldn’t it be infinitely safer? Just talking about the frack water here not any other pros or cons of drilling….Thanks

    • Barbara

      oops that should be ‘why can’t just water…’

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